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-- Unfaithful - TELESYNC - Centropy (http://www.vcdhq.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=2897)
this is 3 cd, not 4 as stated on the site - just as a note.
;spoo
this is getting rediculous... svcd has nothing to do with the quality of a telesync.. the ctp svcd are as good quality as the ctp vcd.. its fine to want to be known for something different in the scene.. but what the fuck.. do we really need an svcd telesync of unfaithful?
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i like the svcd more and i am sure other people do too just like how it is stated in one of the previous ctp nfo's i read.
svcd info
svcds are hypotheticaly speaking, "higher quality" because its MPEG2 as aposed to 1, and it therefore uses more processing power from the player.
atm
There is a bit of difference b/t VCD and SVCD. NO, the SVCD does not change the qulaity of the TS, but it does enhance the quality of this pic... if that makes sense. VCDs are encoded at 352X240. SVCDs are encoded at 480X480. If played on a computer, you cannot tell much of a difference, but if they were played on a DVD player on a tv bigger than your monitor, there is a significant difference. The extra 128X240 make the picture have to strech less to fit your TV.
So in a short statemnet, SVCD is better than VCD in quality on TVs bigger than your monitor.
If you do not fell like wastin a couple of pennies on a cd, dl the entire movie and load up TMPGEnc and re-encode the damn move to VCD and quit ur bitchin!
On the movie, the quality is very high up and sound is ok.
i know what you are saying... but if ctp were relying on it looking better on standalones i think they would work on their releases being compliant on more than a handful of peoples standalones
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Since they have switched to svcd all their shit plays in sync. Thank God!!!
nobody cares about using an extra cd, it's the downloading the extra 800mb that irritates a lot of people.
spiderman looked good though, worth it.
Dumb Asses
You people are so dumb. Making a TS encoded with SVCD does change the quality!!! It makes the bitrate much higher and the screen resolution bigger. The higher the bitrate the better the quality. A higher bitrate also makes the action scenes in any movie much less blocky. Just like Spiderman has no blocky action scenes.... Fuckers!
As much as I prefer 2 cd releases-- for various reasons-- I TOTALLY respect Centropy's commitment to quality. The 2 CD re-encode of Spiderman made the difference clear. Bottom line: the picture quality is better on svcd.
If someone can accomplish the same thing on 2 CD's--> bon appetite.
Well I like the SVCD's, if you dont like it then go make your own !
I'll be getting this movie.
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Originally posted by brr8760
The 2 CD re-encode of Spiderman made the difference clear. Bottom line: the picture quality is better on svcd.
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Originally posted by brr8760:
There is a bit of difference b/t VCD and SVCD. NO, the SVCD does not change the qulaity of the TS, but it does enhance the quality of this pic... if that makes sense. VCDs are encoded at 352X240. SVCDs are encoded at 480X480. If played on a computer, you cannot tell much of a difference, but if they were played on a DVD player on a tv bigger than your monitor, there is a significant difference. The extra 128X240 make the picture have to strech less to fit your TV.
this isnt a typical svcd
Why does Centropy release their TS SVCDS in 480x576 ? Doesn't make a lot of sense. Should be 480 x 480.
diane lane = boner
9/9/9
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Originally posted by brr8760
As much as I prefer 2 cd releases-- for various reasons-- I TOTALLY respect Centropy's commitment to quality. The 2 CD re-encode of Spiderman made the difference clear. Bottom line: the picture quality is better on svcd.
appetite.
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You people are so stupid. Take one of the samples of the Centropy SVCD TS Releases and convert it to VCD and the quality is no where near comparable to the SVCD sample. You people need to get some contacts or something to not see the difference. SVCD TS is better, end of discussion. The only complaint that some have is the Pal format. Thats it.
not bad
Considering is still a Cam this svcd is not bad at all. The sound is pretty good and for the most part the picture is good to! There is a little fuzz in the picture but is does not hurt the release at all. Nice work Centropy!
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Originally posted by napalmfuzz
this is getting rediculous... svcd has nothing to do with the quality of a telesync.. the ctp svcd are as good quality as the ctp vcd.. its fine to want to be known for something different in the scene.. but what the fuck.. do we really need an svcd telesync of unfaithful?
good job at reading the nfo's pepperkorn.. i think we all understand the relationship of a dv cam.. to higher quality.. but it would be higher as svcd even if it wre an old school vhs cam.
and woop dee doo.. Centropy prob doesnt REALLY take THAT much risk.. or they wouldnt do it so much.. cuz their luck would run out.. and if they ARE taken that much risk.. they are stupid.. and should know its really not worth it
ok.. im getting sick of replying like i know everything.. so stop makin me :P
I prefer svcd's I just need one for for my collection star wars 2!
aight tnx guy u guys are the kings and this a very sexy movie! 
9/9
if you sit here and whine about svcds your player obviously doesnt play then so instead of sitting here bitching about that, actually say like can you make a few vcds instead of saying im getting sick of this svcd bs, the svcds are a lot better quality so shut up already
You guys are talking out of your ass. The SVCD format is making a huge difference in the quality of these TS's. They are encoding from a digital source.
VCD is not a superior format to SVCD and no amount of gay gay gay gay speculation is going to change that. Shut the fuck up and enjoy the absolute best TS's that have ever been captured and released.
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Originally posted by napalmfuzz
i know what you are saying... but if ctp were relying on it looking better on standalones i think they would work on their releases being compliant on more than a handful of peoples standalones
hpv You took the words rite outta ma mouth.
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Originally posted by bambambam
You guys are talking out of your ass. The SVCD format is making a huge difference in the quality of these TS's. They are encoding from a digital source.
VCD is not a superior format to SVCD and no amount of gay gay gay gay speculation is going to change that. Shut the fuck up and enjoy the absolute best TS's that have ever been captured and released.
it all depends if theyre capturing from dv or analogue, standard analogue VHS cam res is 1/2 PAL or VHS, DV is higher res. If from dv then svcd is the best way to put out the capture as it will use more width than vcd. Of course the added bonus of higher bitrate helps too
If you have any doubt about what it all means go here
http://www.vcdhelper.com
now ... back to the movie !
Keep up the great work and SVCD rels Centropy !!!
SVCD's kick ass!!! Good Job Centropy, and Thank You!
yea i enjoyed that response hpv. i think alot of people feel that way.
i think we should have a lengthy scene test that everyone must pass before making comments here. questions about video quality, scene rules, standards and etc would be asked.. and if u dont know enough to pass.. u prob dont have any business making up long rants like this one
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Originally posted by krazyfoo
yea i enjoyed that response hpv. i think alot of people feel that way.
i think we should have a lengthy scene test that everyone must pass before making comments here. questions about video quality, scene rules, standards and etc would be asked.. and if u dont know enough to pass.. u prob dont have any business making up long rants like this one
yes well.. thats great and all.. but how long uve been doing somthing doesnt necesarilly ordain u intelligent on certain matters.. u can be in the scene for years.. and not know shit about much of it.
and lets PLEASE not knock around the word elite.. im just saying.. some people, god knows why, feel the need to speak on subjects they know very little about. so chill out kid.
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Originally posted by PepperKorn
I do apologize if some of us here aren't elite enough for you, you make the scene sound like a gay club which side do I wear my chain if I give or take?
Some of us have been doing this longer than most of you kiddies have been on this earth.
i actually know most all of that.. haha.. but hey.. u gotta when its ur field in college :P.. learned alot over the years... doing digital-media.. 3d/arts.. a nice feeling getting my 3d work onto a high quality svcd 
ill have a stab.. correct me if im wrong 
framerate:
Pal: 25fps
NTSC: 29.9fps [but think ntsc has a few options?]
NTSCfilm: 23.. something hehe
resolutions:
NTSC[film too]: 352x240
PAL: 352x288
and ill get back to u w/ the extra credit :P
Isn't this suppose to be about the quality of the movie.. stop arguing about if the TS should be done in SVCDs or VCDs.. There are plenty of other posts about it already ie: Spiderman..
The picture is good, sound is good, movie is so so, since I am not really into this type of movie..
I give it a 8/8/7
CTP is KING
Bitch, Bitch, Bitch!!
If ctp whats to release every movie in svcd thats fine by me. Afterall you people, your getting these movies for free. People that are getting stuff for free have no room to bitch about what somebody is doing like ctp. SVCD plays fine in my dvd player and that extra 30 cents for a cd-r isn't exactly breaking the bank. Oh, i almost forgot to mention that the quality of SVCD is so much better than VCD.
NTSC is ~29.976fps
NTSC film is ~23.976fps
An SVCD by standard has to be ~29.976fps but you can use ~23.976fps with a 3:2 pulldown on playback.
Obviously though, people who know what they're talking about don't need to be tested... just the kids who think "digital quality" means something and other such non-sense. ;p
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Originally posted by krazyfoo
i actually know most all of that.. haha.. but hey.. u gotta when its ur field in college :P.. learned alot over the years... doing digital-media.. 3d/arts.. a nice feeling getting my 3d work onto a high quality svcd
ill have a stab.. correct me if im wrong
framerate:
Pal: 25fps
NTSC: 29.9fps [but think ntsc has a few options?]
NTSCfilm: 23.. something hehe
resolutions:
NTSC[film too]: 352x240
PAL: 352x288
and ill get back to u w/ the extra credit :P
Whazzup with the BOOM mikes???
I love Centropy. But these boom mikes are really starting to kill my entertainment buzz. With all the care they take to put out the best quality, wouldn't a little cropping go a long ways here?? Obviously, these mikes will be cropped out in the finished product, so why leave them in here?
PLEASE KILL THE BOOM MIKES IN THE FUTURE!
Øütrág£ lol
WTG!!!!!!!
Øütrág£ I totaly agree 
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Originally posted by hpv
Actually, it's most people's cheap-ass, bullshit DVD players that aren't compliant. SVCD simply isn't supported on many DVD players and while their decoders would likely play it fine, they're too fucking stupid to know where on the disc to look for the files.
People need to stop complaining about this shit, no one really gives a fuck. Go buy a decent Pioneer or an Apex or something and stfu. Since all you bitches obviously aren't paying for your movies, then you ought to have a couple extra bucks left over to buy a 50-60$ DVD player that will work just fine.
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Originally posted by napalmfuzz
ok i guess its just cooincidence that my 400 dollar zenith progressive scan plays every other vcd release in the world but centropy... any way... as to this svcd discussion... watch spiderman.. then watch we were soldiers.. its the exact same god damn quality just without the extra fucking disc.. think back to centropys telesync of lord of the rings... same quality as spiderman and on 3 discs at 3 and a half hours.. spiderman 2 hour movie on 3 discs.. its just fucking rediculous.. i can see that most people that are saying how much better svcd makes a telesync are fucking newbies and rookies so i understand that you are full of shit.
Jesus, allot of you bitch ! ! !
ctp rules
Great Work!!!
bottom line is that the svcds are definitely superior to the vcds. but 3 cds for a ts can be excessive. for a major release such as spiderman, i am sure that most people wouldn't mind burning an extra cd. if the release can fit on 2 cds, then i'm all for the svcd. but for any old movie, i would prefer not to use 2 gigs of hd space.
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Originally posted by hpv
Actually I could care less about whether it's VCD or SVCD. But your zenith dvd player is a piece of shit if it can't play the Spiderman SVCD. And as you've already made abundantly clear, you have no where near the required knowledge to make a statement on quality. And btw, I never said anything about an SVCD making a TS better than an VCD. You're the moron who implied that.
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Originally posted by napalmfuzz
just give up man.. give up... ill sum up my argument in 2 words
Junior Member
maybe you werent ready to be winged from kazaa yet
oh i see.. we're basing knowledge on post count?... cuz i always thought the guy w/ all the posts.. was the guy w/ too much time on his hands.. and nothing else.
as for this svcd argument.. i think it should be worked out like this:
SVCD TELESYNCS should be standard.. as long as it doesnt take 3 CDs[or 113+ minutes].. if so u go w/ VCD and leave it at 2 CDs.. cuz i dont care enough to burn 3 cds.. of some TS thta WILL have a screener later on.
3cd rls's and up... should only be allowed w/ digital sources..
There is NO reason why these movies are released as a SVCD...there origin is from a vcd so stretching it out to 480x480 really makes no sense, look at spiderman there faces looked fat and dunst legs looked real fat in that waitress dress....waste of time having to dload another cd, and dont give me crap about encoding ive been ripping shit when most of u were still in diapers...which isnt more than 10 yrs ago
omg
Im fucking sick of reading this god damn forum. All I hear is bitching and fucking VCD is better than SVCD. Jesus A Christ. No should care so fucking much over something so gay.
If your going to post something, make it a review. And whoever is moderating this forum should post a rule about no gay buttsex flamming about video format. No one wants to read it. Whenever a movie comes out. Someone has to make the same stupid arguement about VCD or SVCD. God im sick of this n00b shit.
way to be stupid.
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originally posted by Bud-Man
there origin is from a vcd so stretching it out to 480x480 really makes no sense
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Originally posted by Bud-man
There is NO reason why these movies are released as a SVCD...there origin is from a vcd so stretching it out to 480x480 really makes no sense, look at spiderman there faces looked fat and dunst legs looked real fat in that waitress dress....waste of time having to dload another cd, and dont give me crap about encoding ive been ripping shit when most of u were still in diapers...which isnt more than 10 yrs ago
Long time reader, first time poster.
Guys sitting here and talking about someones sexuality is not posting a review about the movie. Take a look at the forums of isonews and see what happens when thats how people talk. Lets sit here and talk about the movie (of which there is probably 5 reviews out of 50 posts). Thanks for your time
Trickster.. i agree.. the movie should be talked about..
but .. u DO realize u did the same thign?.. u didnt mention the movie quality either.. that and.. i dont think there is gonna be much more discussion involved w/ these svcd ts's.. since they will most likely always be of an acceptable quality to those who swing the way of the ts :P
and.. please dont compare this to iSONEWS.. the quality of flame here.. is much higher heh.. but yea.. im done.
What is the deal with the mikes in this? Where did they get this copy from? I saw it in the theater an i'm sure i would have seen the mike one of the 12 times that are in this release.
No bitching i think it's funny like that.
Un Edited???
Has anyone else noticed that this film is unedited(noted because the mic booms are still in the movie)...meaning the CTP is getting it directly from source...Interesting
Good job CTP!
Love those SVCD
I don't understand why all the complaints. Since Centropy has
been releasing the TS in this format the quality is much better.
I really appreciate the difference in quality. I don't care about
the extra cd(cost about 10cents a disc). Now I can enjoy the
movie at home. I think this format makes them very watchable.
I hate that FTF shit! When I see that group associated with a
release I don't even bother to download it. Waste of time and
a disc. I'm off to the theater to watch "Enough" because I've
had enough of FTF's Shit!
booms and their mic's
I just wanted to mention something about the microphones in the movies.
A couple years ago I was able to enjoy the only NC-17 version of Jerry Maguire...the reason was because the projector that was used to view it was old school and the filters(to crop the picture, can't remember the actual term) had to be set manually. The projectionist failed to put the proper filter on, so instead of having Cuba Gooding Jr.'s penis cropped out of a shot in the lockerroom, it was there in plain view. The same goes for microphones...
For some reason CTP does not have access to a properly cropped projector, or something to that effect...I have no idea.
So, the copy of Unfaithful they had was most likely no different than the one's released to theater after theater, other than the projector wasn't setup properly.
I am surprised this information isn't more commonly known. The film reel shows more than is actually presented on the screen...I believe pretty much any movie has the boom and all visible, just that they are cropped out by the projector.
yep.. id bet ur on the mark for sure luckifer
but some movies dont work that way.. this one however probably does.. years ago i used to run projectors for a local theatre [99cent.. theatre
w00t].. and they had some of the same problems.. but i have never gone to a real theatre and seen this.. so im wonderin how they managed to find such a poorly setup reel :P..
funny storry about Jerry Maguire by the way
oh and greeneyes.. not to flame.. but u DID manage to contradict urself :P
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Orginally posted by Greeneyes:
I don't care about
the extra cd(cost about 10cents a disc)........
I hate that FTF shit! .....Waste of time and
a disc.
GOD DAMN SHES HOT
[edit] NO REQUESTING[/edit] -cx
Looking for the movie for a week and half
Your comming on the forum and asking for a movie !
WHY ?
Boom Mic
I watched the centropy released of Unfaithful and I enjoyed the movie but the one thing that just racked my nerves what the boom mic showing in like 90% of the movie...... is this a workprint release or something? If this is a telesync shot from a theatre I can pretty much bet people were exceptionally ticked off if they noticed it.
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