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Spiderman 2 *SVCD* - TELECINE - ALLiANCE

Nice Realease sorry for rating just be the jpeg.This release looks good but the videoCD release is fine for me.

Sorry once again

Thought we didn`t rate JUST the jpegs here??!

Re: Spiderman 2 *SVCD* - TELECINE - ALLiANCE

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Originally posted by deano21
Nice Realease Great pic judging by t jpeg


9/?/10

will rate sound wen seen sample

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not bad at all. video is better then videoCD's rls but not that much. little more bright and a little more color but tthats about it. sounds good nothing to complain about. 3cd could have fit onto 2 but as the nfo states its a quality thing!!!

8/8/9

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Disappointing.
Ill stick with VideoCD rls

7/7/8

humm not that amazing for a tc.. i'd give it an 8 not much better then the videocd ts

can anyone confirm if this is the same source as the german tc..

cuase i got the feelin this its the same with videocd sound

but i could be wrong..

as for this release thnxxxx TC's are always nice

and dont forget to release the dvdr

i have both now - and i have to say the 3cd's slighlty does pip the 2cd vcd rls version

it is good but i remember at the time of the vcd rls - someone said that depending on the length of a film is how many disks it should be put onto - and think i'm correct in thinking that 3 disks was the best option for the length of this film.

9/9/9 for this rls
but stick with vcd's if you already have that

Hi,

Just got done comparing both samples light and dark of both groups.

Yes, the Telecine, of course is better, however I dont think that it's warrant enough for people to download the telecine version. The Videocd version will hold off people until a dvd rip. Unless youre annoyed with the person sitting down in the VideoCD release. The dark scene of the TC is lighter and better then the videocd version.

The Telecine version look like it was recorded to a VHS tape first then transferred and encoded. It has similar picture quality of a VHS Rip.

Audio on both was great,

I would rate the Telecine 8 / 10 / 9

I waited a bit better...

But anyway 7/9/3

Gonna keep VideCD's rel and wait the DVDr.

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Originally posted by crapper


can anyone confirm if this is the same source as the german tc..

cuase i got the feelin this its the same with videocd sound

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7/9/8

Average TC better than VCD 3 cd internal but not by enough to justify another download.

Does have a VHS feel to it as already commented.

WTF 4 samples in a 60 meg download a bit overkill really.

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nice job 8/8/9 but a little late

Should have been released *INTERNAL* as the is no real need for it ( i know its a TC but the qulaity as the above has said is not really up to par)

7.9.9

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Still its a TC and the pic is better than the videoCD i think that this release is great maybe wel see it on dvdr soon

8.5/9/10

Well i for one think its a perfectly justified release.

Not much better quality ? it's not a DVD no, get over it but compared to VideoCD's ts.... No cropping... correct aspect ratio, better colors.... more visible in the dark scenes......

i realy dotn understand peoples reason why this should of been internal. is it just so you can be selfish and hope for a better TC which will now likely internal and you may not be able to get ?

anyways.. isnt the best TC but its fine ... as good as any Screener and for something this early you cant argue with that..

7 ( slightly blurred ) / 10 / 8

Not *that* good for a TC, I guess I will stick with the VideoCD rlz..

7/9/10

if you compair EMPiRE's TC vs ALLiANCE TC you will notice a resemblence. More then likley same source and re-encode of SVCD > SVCD would be the cause of pixelation, the colors are much better then VideoCD's TS, also has more picture then VideoCD's TS. ALLiANCE more then likley had permission to use their source , they been around along time and wouldnt just use it and risk getting nuked i wouldnt think. Anyway as said slight pixelation on standalone , colors are better, shows more screen, birate seemed a bit high ... overall nice copy, but not usual TC quality.

7/8/5

btw as vegasguy said - The Telecine version look like it was recorded to a VHS tape first then transferred and encoded. It has similar picture quality of a VHS Rip. (i thought the exact same thing) ... but this is a true TC in CD1 you can see the cig burn marks on picture time and time again.

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Originally posted by pezley
Well i for one think its a perfectly justified release.

Not much better quality ? it's not a DVD no, get over it but compared to VideoCD's ts.... No cropping... correct aspect ratio, better colors.... more visible in the dark scenes......

i realy dotn understand peoples reason why this should of been internal. is it just so you can be selfish and hope for a better TC which will now likely internal and you may not be able to get ?

anyways.. isnt the best TC but its fine ... as good as any Screener and for something this early you cant argue with that..

7 ( slightly blurred ) / 10 / 8

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Originally posted by desertboy
Have you ever seen TCF's VCD screener from late 2002-2003 they kicked the shit out of this quality wise and they were VHS-SVHS screener's.

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I've seen all 3 releases and this is my comparison:

SpiderMan.2.SVCD.TELESYNC-VideoCD
good first release, tilted, washed colors, PAL, and excellent audio (oh yeah, and squares poping up everywhere)

Spider.Man.2.TC.Line.Dubbed.German.SVCD-EMPiRE
german cam audio, rendered 16:9, PAL, and has an encoder screen at the beginning of the movie (dunno exactly what that was)

Spiderman.2.TELECINE.SVCD-ALLiANCE
great colors, good audio, NTSC, and definatly the best release out. No flaws in the video I see. Has complete begining and all credits. Glad it wasn't internal.

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Originally posted by ou812
I've seen all 3 releases and this is my comparison:

SpiderMan.2.SVCD.TELESYNC-VideoCD
good first release, tilted, washed colors, PAL, and excellent audio

Spider.Man.2.TC.Line.Dubbed.German.SVCD-EMPiRE
german cam audio, rendered 16:9, PAL, and has an encoder screen at the beginning of the movie (dunno exactly what that was)

Spiderman.2.TELECINE.SVCD-ALLiANCE
great colors, good audio, NTSC, and definatly the best release out. No flaws in the video I see. Glad it wasn't internal.

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im def sticking with videocd's copy as this, imo, dont look good

7/8/7

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Originally posted by pjfan281
well now you forgot the 3cd version by VideoCD which corrected many of the problems of the 2cd

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dunno what your on about with boxes coming up on the 2cd version of videoCD???? mine was bang on - in fact alot of ppl i know got sold a dodgy copy on dvd and they thought my version on cd was miles better than the one they had

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Originally posted by Movie_Insider
nice job 8/8/9 but a little late

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7/8/9

Not bad video and audio, but I prefer the VideoCD 3cd INTERNAL release to be honest.

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Clearly better than the ts when compared side by side, sharper and more accurate colours. Audio is about the same.

only a dvdr release will justify whether or not alliance stole the german source and mux'ed it with videocd's audio, they've done it in the past with other groups' dvd releases so it wouldn't shock me but hey... I could be wrong quality is good but at the same time does have a re-encode feel to it. 7/8/5

The samples are a good idea, but i kinda prefer the TS.

Yes this does have better colour, and its sharper up close, but the TS looks better on distance shots.

7/8/9

This isnt bad, but if you already have one of the pervious rls's, especially the VideoCD one, stick with them. The quality is better, but not enough for most people to justify the download.

Not the best TC either, I'd say it's average for a TC so...

7/10/9.5

too bad i already seen it
7/8/9

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8/8/7

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Originally posted by ch0pp3r
I waited a bit better...

But anyway 7/9/3

Gonna keep VideCD's rel and wait the DVDr.

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nice job alliance good tc picture was good and audio as well hope maybe to see tc for i robot and anchorman since videocd aint doing ts"s it seems

its good for a tc but not the best 8/9/9

saw the sample, looks real good. If you burn it and watch on your tv it looks even better than it looks on the pc and therefore this is the one to get over the video cd version hands down. The sound is the same, this can even pass as a vhs screener. Very nice.

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4 samples was well worth it
nice job , who cares 60mb its great!

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9/9/8

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well this was a good rls, most likely empire's source...with dts audio laid on it.....


damn good rls, pretty worthless though if you have the VideoCD rls....a screener rls would be just as worthless

wait for dvd or dvdscreener


8/7/8 .......the audio looks to be .05 seconds off..if you wanna get technical....later

nice release, better IMO that 3 discs VideoCD internal

waiting DVD

9/8/9

bah stick with videocd if you have it no need for this release its a hair better then videocds but damn not worth the 3 cd download for me .... 8/8/6 good rip but .. for what ?

7/7/8


This is definately not the best Telecine I have ever seen. But it's not the worst either. The pic is pretty much o.k. There is some pixelation, but it's not that bad. Not really noticable. The sound however sounded a little muffled on my Home Theater system. Especially at the very first of the movie. Of course everyone likes the movie. I think it's awesome. I have always liked Spiderman though Anyways Thanks Alot for this Nice release ALLiANCE Keep Up The GOOD Work!

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Originally posted by dc_man
Why would you wait for a DVDr at all if you gave the movie a 3 you fucking retard! Just so you can say you have it? Who fucking cares.

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Agreed. Pic seems nice on my dvd player, but audio is sure to hell not dts source.. That or they fucked up bigtime.. Its muffled and sounds hollow, especially during music. It just doesnt sound right. Not sure how to explain... So A) they got a bad DTS, B) this isnt DTS C) they did a fuckup or something... Anyhow still not bad but could be much better with added work, and a bit of delay on releasing.... As i say, why the fucking the rush.... Races might win you the notability, but fast and lazy work also gets a sour reward... So stop worrying about who wins for once, and just worry about doing it right... this is true for a lot of groups.

Side note, i finished watching... The audio also fluctuates as well.. so just to further my idea this might not be a real dts source... True dts from the real would be constant, and not go from high to low and so on.. that or as stated, it was poorly done.

I caught myself not too impressed by the samples except on the light ones. You could see a great color difference. So I finally got the full release. Took forever!!! But I did notice some distortions during the audio especially in the intro. But after Burning and placing on the television. Man the pic looked f..king great. A big difference from the pc monitor. As after placing the audio coming from the stereo. The distortions turned out to be bass boost that sounded like glitches on the pc speakers. Overall this is a very nice release. And rather if anyone wants to admit it. Its better than both videocd releases. I have the 2cd and the 3cd internal. And overall this is the one to get. Just for a collectors item until a dvdr is released months from now.

A Keeper.

9/9/10 movie was great.

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I didn't take the time to read all of the posts here, but I read a good amount of them. And I'm gonna say I'm going to disagree with alot of people on this release.

Video: 6

Pixelated, Blocky, and I know alot of you are going to disagree with me on this... but I really think VidoeCD's release has better colors than this one. The colors in this release are too washed, or dull. However it's better than VideoCD's release for a few obvious reasons. True, full widescreen, not cropped, no tilt, dark scenes are easier to see, and no little trail on movements like Telesyncs always have because of the framerate. Usually these kinds of videos look better on the TV, I don't think it looked too much better.

I really think if the colors on this release were better, and the picture wasnt so blocky and pixelated, it would be a much better release.

Audio: 7

A bit quiet ... in the beginning of the movie, it's pretty hissy in some parts, especially on the computer. Not sure if anyone else noticed this ... but compared the VCD's release, the audio seemed slightly off pitch, unless I'm just hearing things.

Movie: 9

Very good I thought, the CGI was excellent in most parts, a few obvious parts where it was pretty messed up, overall a very good movie. Some corney parts, but a very good storyline. Can't wait to see the next one!!


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Originally posted by ou812
I've seen all 3 releases and this is my comparison:

SpiderMan.2.SVCD.TELESYNC-VideoCD
good first release, tilted, washed colors, PAL, and excellent audio (oh yeah, and squares poping up everywhere)

Spider.Man.2.TC.Line.Dubbed.German.SVCD-EMPiRE
german cam audio, rendered 16:9, PAL, and has an encoder screen at the beginning of the movie (dunno exactly what that was)

Spiderman.2.TELECINE.SVCD-ALLiANCE
great colors, good audio, NTSC, and definatly the best release out. No flaws in the video I see. Has complete begining and all credits. Glad it wasn't internal.

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Originally posted by EmPreSS
Failed to mention the Internal VideoCD 3cd rls. No squares popping up on that version...

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Originally posted by ou812
I didnt get VideoCDs 3CD iNTERNAL. Just the released stuff.

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This release was closed when VideoCD released it a few weeks ago (and won hands down). The quality was good enough till DVD release so can't see a reason to downloading this one.

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man some of you people are morons

Burned this and watched on standalone... and I have to say, the people talking about the colors of this being worse than VideoCD's... you all are either full of shit, judging fuckin jpegs on yer crappy ass 6 year old e-machine, or just plain blind. Hell, maybe it's all of the above considering half the peeps here must be under 15.

The colors on this one are pretty nice. It does have a bit of a "faded" look to it, and is grainy - but hell, that's same you are gonna get from a VHS Screener for the most part.

The audio is spot on. The picture is most definately the best picture available.

This release is justified. In fact, I would go so far to say that the majority of releases PERIOD are justified. You guys who complain about every fuckin release need to step away from the PC and go discover girls. And BTW - none of us here give a fuck if you are waiting for another group to release, or waiting for a DVDr.... this is for posting fuckin REVIEWS people... you all do know how to write REVIEWS don't ya? That's when you EXPLAIN the quality of the audio, video, and the movie...not telling us how small yer penis is.

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About right

So 7/7/9 this is the release to get

First post, so go easy on me!

Working in a projection booth I hear this film every day for longer than I can estimate!

The sound pitch is definately too low/slow. Not sure how that is if the sound was transferred direct from the SR analog or SRD digital during the telecine?

But overall very good picture and sound when viewed on standalone.

8/8/10

Video 7
Audio 8
Movie 8



Video is a bit grainy good colours but seen better TC,s
Audio is pretty good.
Enjoyed the movie.

As said b4 if u have videocd version stick with it.

8/8/3 - Great quality - shit film

Did anyone else have about 4 instancies of audio cutting out for 1/2 a sec, mite be my compiling or intentional to shift it back into sync ?

got this a while ago...but becuz of the bashing that it was not that great didn't rush to unpack. well, just did unpack and have to say this is a very NICE TC. BEST RELEASE OUT YET!.


9/8/7

Solid Release

A good solid release as far as the video..some artifacts, but not horribly noticeable=8.5

Definitely heard some audio distortion and agree on minor sync problems=8

Overall movie=9

I do believe that this is a re-encode. There is evidence of the kind of interlacing that comes from re-encoded material. Usually I notice this when encoding to dvd, and prone to see more ghosting, than the interlacing, which suggest re-encoding on this one. Still a solid release in my opinion and looks pretty nice on my standalone.

It's solid release. Maybe not the best TC ever but still very watchable...

7/9/5

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7/7/8

Not the best one out there. I would stick to VideoCD.

I just Downloaded spiderman2 the SpiderMan.2.SVCD.TELESYNC-VideoCD and when i burnt it to a cd it was only 35 mins is this correct? Or should it be longer?