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Posted by nakid on 09-13-2004 03:42 PM:

the sample sounds nice, but the picture is kinda grainy & blotchy .. and a tad bit dark..

v = 6
a = 8.5
m = ??


Posted by manofice on 09-13-2004 04:00 PM:

NUKED
REASON-interplaced


took long enough to hit vcdquality been nuked for hours


Posted by pHo on 09-13-2004 04:24 PM:

what the fuck does "interplaced" mean.

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Posted by Dodgy Del on 09-13-2004 04:24 PM:

probably best to pass on this one. looks a good movie so best to watch it with a good release. this isn't ,so ill pass. thanks anyway.

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Posted by crawleygreen on 09-13-2004 04:25 PM:

Interplaced means what ?
If it means interlaced then it dont matter as it will still burn to disc to play on standalone DVD

8/9/8


Posted by Bullet on 09-13-2004 04:59 PM:

lol wtf interplaced?

anyways....this is definitly not a nuke. It´s veryy good for a ts cam

Cam so not to sharp video but it´s really watchable, bit dark sometimes but still. Sound is real nice imho.

9,considering cam, 9,5


Posted by manofice on 09-13-2004 05:00 PM:

ok...so maybe the site ment "interlaced" idk....i downloaded it anyways...just a bit dark, audio is great


Posted by frsoldier on 09-13-2004 05:08 PM:

interplaced ? maybe it means that some part of film are not placed on cdr-s in the right position?


Posted by KiLLeRSpaM on 09-13-2004 05:43 PM:

Sample looks ok... although i wanted to see what was out the window!

Video, looked like it had had some gamma changes. Pitcure is, as said above, blotchy, but the colors look mid-ok.

Sample was dark, but as a lot of the film is inside that room, i could see it being annoying.

Will probably wait for a better one, but this one's fairly watchable.

6/7/?


Posted by dwayne on 09-13-2004 05:53 PM:

THE KIDS HIGH nice rls burns fine plays fine


5.5/7/4 movie was sorta stupid ending sucks the audio sounded like it, i dont know just hard to hear in some parts. could be my tv could be me ..feedback helps

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Posted by calmpanic on 09-13-2004 07:13 PM:

from the sample you can't really tell too much in terms of video.. idk why they picked such a dark scene.. but audio is not bad.. and video is not bad.. i would think in brighter scenes it would be very watchable


Posted by Miller on 09-13-2004 07:21 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by manofice
NUKED
REASON-interplaced


took long enough to hit vcdquality been nuked for hours



ya its nuked for being interlacedm, but as people have said it plays fine in a standalone. anyway video is same as theri cam. nice audio though diden't notice anything. haven't watched much of this movie yet

6/7/?

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Posted by PurpleP on 09-13-2004 08:17 PM:

I tested the video for myself with bitrate viewer just to find out if it was interlaced or not. Here is my results!

Num. of picture read: 162260
Stream type: MPEG-1 CBR
Resolution: 352*240
Aspect ratio: 4:3 NTSC 525
Framerate: 29.97
Nom. bitrate: 1150000 Bit/Sec
VBV buffer size: 20
Constrained param. flag: Yes
Chroma format: 4:2:0
DCT precision: 8
Pic. structure: FRAME
DCT type: Frame
Quantscale: Linear
Scan type: ZigZag
Frame type: Progressive
Notes:

As we all can see the Frame Type is Progressive. So this release is NOT a nuke. Just prolly been sheep nuked just wish ppl would check for themselves before nuking.


Posted by AcclaimedCrit on 09-13-2004 08:19 PM:

finally, a decent release from fbc ! lets hope this is a sign of things to come , as any improvement is welcome on their past releases.
video:6.5/audio:8/movie:9 one of the better movies i've watched in the past few weeks

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Posted by ^Om3n on 09-13-2004 08:30 PM:

ah forget it, it was me that clicked the wrong thread link : )

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Posted by ShinBone on 09-13-2004 08:57 PM:

The brightness fluctuates a little and a bit too dark. Pretty damn decent other than that. Audio sounds like a good direct source.

7/8/¿


Posted by MTV on 09-13-2004 09:16 PM:

This is def better than the cam,it just makes it into the *if you want to watch the film get this 1* if you are in no rush there will def be a better svcd t/s out of this soon .

7 / 8 / ? *ill give it a couple of days for better svcd.


Posted by ForeverYours on 09-13-2004 09:21 PM:

The picture isn't very good at all, at least in my opinion, too zoomed in, and blurry. The sound on the other hand is very good, loud and clear. I would have to give this an 5 for video, 9 for sound, and have yet to watch the movie ?.

5/9/?

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Posted by ZooL on 09-13-2004 09:37 PM:

well, all looks pretty good to me. good enough to watch and that's all i'm bothered about

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Posted by tr1pp1n on 09-13-2004 10:26 PM:

good for a cam, bad for a movie

8/7/4.5 dont watch this movie if u dont have to, presonally i thought the plot was garbage and very predictible... good release by fbc though...

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Posted by vip3r on 09-13-2004 10:46 PM:

Not a bad release ... saw this movie at the theater and LOVED it, one of the best movies this year imo. Not bashing this release as it's very nice .. especially considering it's cough fbC .. but i was expecting something a little nicer by now

7/7.5/10


Posted by Debo on 09-13-2004 11:49 PM:

video is decent
audio is alright
7/7

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Posted by Movie_Insider on 09-14-2004 12:05 AM:

Thumbs up

not bad 7/7/? When I finish watching it I 'll re-post


Posted by pham on 09-14-2004 12:16 AM:

nice overall TS
6/7/7.5

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Posted by NewbieSnipa on 09-14-2004 12:28 AM:

For a Ts:

5- Slow and Blocky
7- Pretty good
?


Posted by underdog on 09-14-2004 02:14 AM:

just finished cd1. So far it gets 7/8.5 for pic/sound and thus far the movie is an 8, I like how the story is developing, will edit once I've seen the rest.


Posted by xboxfanz on 09-14-2004 02:26 AM:

good release. best by far from them..keep up good work 7/7/7


Posted by protekt0r on 09-14-2004 03:02 AM:

Video is complete crap. Dark, grainy, cropped, no color. I give it a 3. It's worse than a CAM.

Sound is great. I give it a 8.

Movie: ?

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Posted by mrlipring on 09-14-2004 03:05 AM:

picture doesn't look all that good, tbh. sure as fuck ain't got interlacing artifacts in the sample, and i'd have thought a motion scene like the car driving along would've showed it up.

The audio's pretty fine, but the video itself is only ok. And the AR is wrong, by my eyes.

5/8/?

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Posted by theinitialj on 09-14-2004 04:35 AM:

Not bad at all. Just finished going through cd1 and cd2 and I thought it was going to be crappy from some of the comments on here but it was really good for a cam. The sound can't get much better so at least an 8, and the video is definately watchable especially compared to all the other cams that have been out so far this year. At least 7 maybe 8 for video. Remember I'm rating this as a cam, and I don't usually grab cams but this is one of the best I've seen. I am still going to wait for a better copy just to burn for my dvd player but if you really want to see this right away it is definately worth it.


Posted by GSX on 09-14-2004 04:50 AM:

From sample 6/7/x

Will edit when i watch the whole movie....


Posted by KrackZaa on 09-14-2004 06:03 AM:

um guys its not a cam its got dts audio synched, and i mean its really good, i love how loud it is, it sounds real nice. pic is not a 7, its not as nice as a maVen release video wise, maybe they could have done it as svcd.

6/9

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Posted by jp77 on 09-14-2004 06:51 AM:

this release is perfectly fine i tried of the okay ratings


pic..8

audio...8

pic...8


fbc finally put out a decent release and they still get shitted on that's fucked up people.


Posted by Rubberbandman on 09-14-2004 08:10 AM:

Video grainy, cropped too much
Audio is out of sync on cd2 real bad
Movie looks decent

Video - 5
Audio - 7 ( if it was in sync)
Movie - ?


Posted by garvey100 on 09-14-2004 10:51 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Rubberbandman
Video grainy, cropped too much
Audio is out of sync on cd2 real bad
Movie looks decent

Video - 5
Audio - 7 ( if it was in sync)
Movie - ?



Picture aint great but I've seen worse. Can't find those really bad audio sync issues you were talking about on cd 2, and belive you me I have seen some truly bad problems with sync in my time.

All in all, this film is crying out for an SVCD release.

6.5/8/7

Just put on dvd via tmpgenc and the sound does go a bit out of sync after the convert. Apologies rubberband if this is when it had gone outta sync for you.


Posted by nicam on 09-14-2004 02:18 PM:

the best quality out so far but i prefere to wait for a better quality release of this movie 5/7/8


Posted by mooseman2070 on 09-14-2004 05:36 PM:

5/7/?

decent telesync

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Posted by rlxhustlr on 09-14-2004 09:17 PM:

A good solid release. The sound is great the picture is decent. The movie was good, it's always fun to looks at Kim Basinger.

7-9-8


Posted by kidkrate001 on 09-15-2004 01:27 AM:

Is it just me ,or have the curse words been edited. Sorta south park style. You hear it but you don't.

IE: "I don't give a f***"

6.5/9*/7

*=If in fact edited, it would be the first time I've seen it in a TS.


Posted by sportsfan99 on 09-15-2004 05:35 AM:

From scanning through the bins:

6/9/? - Nice release from fbC. Video could have been improved if they made it as svcd depending on their source. I think as long as groups cap their cams/ts to vcd they probably won't score high for video. Audio is top-notch though. So props to the chicks for that. Although there seems to be a slight sync problem in some parts when I scanned. No big deal. As for the movie I'm expecting this to be good so we will see.


Posted by crawleygreen on 09-15-2004 10:57 AM:

whats the difference between this and Cellular.SVCD.TELESYNC.iNTERNAL-EwDp
is it worth getting that latter ?


Posted by lickmyzack on 09-15-2004 12:32 PM:

EwDp release is not that good... kinda hollow audio sound.. seems more like a re-encode of the cam.. or same source as the FRA cam

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Posted by Panthro on 09-15-2004 07:04 PM:

Decent rls..from this group...6/8/7

when converting to dvd cd1 and 2 went out of sync
using a 5ms audio delay seem to work for me


Posted by jzmjr on 09-15-2004 07:06 PM:

this release is watchable, i watched the whole thing w/ no complaints.

Video: 7 - not as clear as Maven's releases but its watchable and u can see what is going on.

Audio: 8 - Its clear, nothing is misunderstood, it is Direct Audio!

Movie: 8 - Very interesting movie, wasnt as predictable as i thought it would be, i really liked this one, it reminds me of Phonebooth in the sense that the guy cannot hang up because someones life is on the line. Its worth checking out!


Posted by hatguy on 09-16-2004 12:11 AM:

Overall, nice release... though, picture quality could've been a little better.

Video - 6 (Better than FRA's release, but still a bit blurry and dark. It's completely watchable, just could've been better.)

Audio - 8 (Very good sound... loud and powerful. I did notice it occasionally going out of sync, but this is very slight.)

Movie - 6 (This one's worth watching. Pretty good movie.)

I guess it'll do for now.


Posted by tombraider on 09-16-2004 06:58 PM:

i think a maven release would go down swell


Posted by bratt31999 on 09-16-2004 10:16 PM:

As stated before the video was a little blury and dark at times. The real problem with this release is I noticed the end of CD1 and CD 2 are out of sync quite a bit. The movie itself I thought was pretty good.

IMO: Should have been nuked for sync problem.

V/7 A/5 M/7


Posted by willyb on 09-17-2004 12:52 AM:

I noticed that there is an anoying Sound like a horn every so many seconds anyone else have that or just me?

video is ok though


Posted by Catch21 on 09-17-2004 11:15 AM:

Nuke slight out of sync


Posted by Snoop on 09-17-2004 04:40 PM:

Anyone that gave this movie a quality rating 8 or above has been spending too much time in front of the boob tube and needs to go to an eye examiner. Come on people this release was horrible.

The video was real dark, grainy and blurry... standard flicker... audio was out of synch and levels were too high, it also seemed cropped as many scenes the actors head were cut off...

Here should be the rating system... forget all the other formats the standard benchmarks are DVD, VHS and CAMs. Everyone in the world knows (at least on this forum) the difference between them.

DVD - 8-10
VHS - 5-7
CAM - 3-7


So this release compares to a crappy VHS tape... with bad audio

V - 5.5
A - 6
M - Movie looks good I am waiting for a better release so as not to torture myself with this crappy release.

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Posted by Jazzmo on 09-18-2004 01:59 AM:

looks a tad dark to me

5
8
? 2 dark 4 me 2 watch


Posted by GloCK|40 on 09-18-2004 05:22 PM:

Wink

5/7/7


This is actually not a bad movie. I thought it was very entertaining and kept me and my Lady on the edge of our seats. fbC did a pretty good job on this one, I thought. This is definately one of the best releases I have ever seen from them. The Video really isnt that good though. It's Very grainy and washed and I noticed Hella artifacts and macro-blocking in it,so its difficult to see during any scene that has some action or fast moving things but fortunately its still watchable. The Audio on the other hand is pretty darn good. It sounded very nice on my Home Theater System. I did, however, have a pretty good bit of out-of-syncness throughout the entire movie. I was constantly hitting the pause button and stopping and resuming trying to get the audio back in sync with the video. Anyhow, I still think this release is Very watchable indeed. The movie itself was actually pretty good too. Very suspenseful flick here yall. It should keep ya on the edge of your seat too!

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Posted by a9h3x on 09-18-2004 06:37 PM:

ok rls to me i give it a 6/6/* havnt finished watching the whole movie yet


Posted by BLUE-NEO on 09-19-2004 10:54 AM:

good release...hopefully a proper or svcd will be released...movie was actually pretty damn good..haven't seen basinger do a distress woman role since batman...nice film, welll written..

6/7/9 great movie. one of a kind..

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Posted by ThePredator on 09-19-2004 01:42 PM:

i have this release and its watchable but quite blurry 5/6/-


Posted by php on 09-19-2004 05:53 PM:

video - 3. It's a mislabelled cam! one can see what is happening, but it just doesn't look good. plus it's a videocd, not SVCD, so they reduced the quality even more by using mpeg1. plus half the screen is cut off, they cut off Basinger's head! lol

audio - 9. I was positively surprised - very good audio, good volume level and NOT hollow. audio has TS quality

movie itself - 9. It's a great movie! very intelligent. I don't understand why so many people say it's bad. Maybe because most people watch it on the surface, instead of reading between the lines. In fact this movie is not about corrupt cops, trying to destroy the evidence, but about

a) coming off age - a young boy is guided into adulthood by a mature woman

b) about the breakdown of communication in advanced technological capitalist society, presented in ironic light, because a means of communication (a cellphone) is used throughout the film, but communication is not properly established notwithstanding this fact.

The same theme was at the centre of the Cellular's script writer's previous film - Phone Booth - remember? Was a great movie, and Cellular is worthy watching too. Don't miss it!


Posted by garvey100 on 09-20-2004 05:27 PM:

php, can you please go and look up the definition of a TS before you start going on about the video being mislabelled cam please.


Posted by php on 09-20-2004 10:47 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by garvey100
php, can you please go and look up the definition of a TS before you start going on about the video being mislabelled cam please.


yeah, you are right, I looked up here: http://www.vcdquality.com/faq.php

and it seems the only difference between cam and ts is the audio quality. however, very often video quality comes into consideration too, when discussing releases on this forum. And I think it's ok to do so - just look at this release - according to the official definition it's a TS, because audio is all righty, but this is confusing, since the TS term doesn't take video quality into consideration. And what good is good audio quality if video quality sux big time?


Posted by jjkm4a1 on 10-03-2004 04:11 PM:

Hey i know this is pretty late but i finally watched this release last night.

V: 7 - decent but cd 2 out of sync :'(
A: 7 - It was fine
V: 2 - Movie dragged on, i was watching late at night and when it finally went to cd 2 i was like WTF another 40 minutes of this crap? Fell asleep and woke up just when it ended. Ill watch the ending just for a good laugh.

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