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Posted by rappa on 02-24-2003 01:56 PM:

ahh id have to say this is actually a nice release..picture looks pretty well, looks like tcf's homemade cams, the sound seems a lil weird...like its not hollow but i can hear like chitter and chat in the background sort of, idk wat it its, but good release, sort of pixelated..i even did the jpg's fast so i dont hear any whining....7/7/x

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Posted by daz..griff on 02-24-2003 02:21 PM:

out with jet li in is going 2 be good,so will be getting this, picture looks ok aswell, 8/8/?

Posted by djkoolaide on 02-24-2003 02:34 PM:

considering ESO's earlier releases, this one looks great

Posted by nicci on 02-24-2003 03:23 PM:

yeah nice
and the best, its a lot shorter !!

Posted by MAFiA TGP on 02-24-2003 04:19 PM:

Looks like Esoteric got a great TS Source!! Keep up the good work guys..

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Posted by DJD4566 on 02-24-2003 04:40 PM:

i saw the sample i give it a 5/4 ???????? ill get the movie when i can but i will be watching this release

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Posted by deathw on 02-24-2003 04:43 PM:

nice pre, good quality!!

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Posted by brr8760 on 02-24-2003 04:53 PM:

Great job, ESO. Picture & sound are quite good for a TS, the entire movie is there (at least the end credits), it stays in sync, and it's not too dark. Just about everything one could hope for in a pre-release TS.

I'm starting to see why so many people here like your work.

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Posted by Ibegoat on 02-24-2003 06:20 PM:

Damn I couldn't believe my eyes knowning that this is from ESO, It doesn't look like a Silver so maybe they actually have a really CAM source.. it would be nice in the future instead of waiting for ctp, or hoping TCF gives it a try. The colors look good, and for the sound its definatly a CAM because you can here things that you shouldn't with a TS. Still a good release and great for a PRE. The fact that the movie has DMX in it scares me bc he has never been in a good or even a decent movie. So it gets a 7/5/NA from me.

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Posted by mib on 02-24-2003 06:29 PM:

nice rls..

but DMX..bah.. should be with Jet Li and Mark Dacascos only..
Nice to put those 2 in same movie =) Loved Mark in Crying Freeman

Posted by VSeeDeez on 02-24-2003 06:32 PM:

GREAT RELEASE,
Cant wait to watch it good job Eso
8/8

Posted by mathias on 02-24-2003 07:25 PM:

what a surprise nice release.....

Posted by DeViL_iNsIdE on 02-24-2003 08:22 PM:

WOW thanks for this release! I was seriously looking forward to this movie...DMX and Jet Li AHHHH i need to see this....The sample looks very promising! Thanks a lot

Posted by Static on 02-24-2003 08:38 PM:

nice quality. nice color..decent AR, better than average TS sound.

jet li kicks ass. but im getting SO damn tired of this
"insert popular black rapper that cant act in action movie here"
type films.

yo. i just sneezed and the biggest booger is on my screen.

Posted by phoR20 on 02-24-2003 08:44 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by MAFiA TGP
Looks like Esoteric got a great TS Source!! Keep up the good work guys.. this is worthy of being called a "Centropy TS"

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Posted by Static on 02-24-2003 08:46 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by MAFiA TGP
Looks like Esoteric got a great TS Source!! Keep up the good work guys.. this is worthy of being called a "Centropy TS"

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Posted by CcZ on 02-24-2003 09:05 PM:

ESOTERiC's best ts ever...
They've always been consistent and dependable to bring the latest stuff, but, their last couple releases (a la Daredevil, Gods & Generals, Kangaroo Jack, Final Destination 2, etc.) haven't been this good. Let's hope they continue this.
As for the release (and not the history of ESOTERiC), this release has a lot of color, isn't that grainy or pixelated, no Blue tint (or for that matter, any tint that's really visible) and nice 5 day (approx.) pre. Sound is definitly "hearable" and there aren't many distractions from hearing the actual movie.
Movie wasn't that good. Jet Li won't ever be Jackie Chan (Jackie Chan's movies usually have some humor) and DMX should stick to improvin' his rap game (and not gettin caught in jail for pot and other stuff).
7/6.5/4

Posted by OzZyOz on 02-24-2003 09:23 PM:

I lub u eso I lub lub lub u!!!! I was waiting for this and I get a pre!!! and its great quality thank thank thank u!!! 8/6.4/only watched half its pretty good.

Posted by CaptainPooHat on 02-24-2003 09:30 PM:

wth is up with DMX and the kung-fu movies?
I dont really give two craps about this movie but damn, nice rls ..sound not 100% but the picture is awesome and really colourful.

8/6/who cares

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Posted by flipp0r on 02-24-2003 09:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by CczuAzul
ESOTERiC's best ts ever...
They've always been consistent and dependable to bring the latest stuff, but, their last couple releases (a la Daredevil, Gods & Generals, Kangaroo Jack, Final Destination 2, etc.) haven't been this good. Let's hope they continue this.
As for the release (and not the history of ESOTERiC), this release has a lot of color, isn't that grainy or pixelated, no Blue tint (or for that matter, any tint that's really visible) and nice 5 day (approx.) pre. Sound is definitly "hearable" and there aren't many distractions from hearing the actual movie.
Movie wasn't that good. Jet Li won't ever be Jackie Chan (Jackie Chan's movies usually have some humor) and DMX should stick to improvin' his rap game (and not gettin caught in jail for pot and other stuff).
7/6.5/4

well said.
really good color for a TS
8/5/watching the rest now, hopefully it doesnt suck

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Posted by your name her on 02-24-2003 10:13 PM:

holy shit this is excellent prolly one of or there best ts rls's ever

8/8/?

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Posted by VCDguy on 02-25-2003 12:21 AM:

OMFG!!!

SHIT YOU GUYS OUT DONE YOURSELFS THIS IS A PERFECT PREE TS!

JET LIIIIIIII!

10/10/10/10

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Posted by BridgeLife on 02-25-2003 12:46 AM:

looks nice, good job on the silver

Posted by rec0de on 02-25-2003 01:07 AM:

i think i might dl this rappers usually make shit movies but quality looks aiight n jet li nuff said

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Posted by TheGodfather on 02-25-2003 02:21 AM:

EXCELLENT

Just watched the sample and i have to say well done ESO. This is most definitely one of your best releases. Video is great with excellent color, sound is decent but for a pre TS this is great.

8/6.5/gonna watch it soon for sure!!!

Posted by someth1ng on 02-25-2003 02:39 AM:

Nice pre....very good video....ok audio, kinda weird sounding though, very hard to describe...but definitley tolerable...9/7/?....Props to the moderators tryin to put an end to the flames...good work

Posted by X400 on 02-25-2003 03:16 AM:

I was really looking forward to this movie when i saw the posters in theatres a while ago but when i saw the trailer it made it look really stupid with tanks and flying and stuff but i dunno maybe it will turn out to be good

this release looks pretty good thought we would get the usual really shitty releases of a movie before we got up to the midranged releases glad to see we skipped the shitty versions of it.

Posted by CraZy on 02-25-2003 04:20 AM:

Nice.

Color and sound are superb.
The blockiness I can do without ...(Filters would have been nice but hey I aint bitchin !)
Actually might have looked good SVCD even, the colors and sound are absolutley outstanding.

Posted by shaomasterlin on 02-25-2003 06:59 AM:

ummm am i the only one who noticed the audio of cd 2 for the most part being out of sync. decent copy thou 7/5/5

Posted by on 02-25-2003 09:20 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by shaomasterlin
ummm am i the only one who noticed the audio of cd 2 for the most part being out of sync. decent copy thou 7/5/5

yes whole cd2 is desync

Posted by xtezy on 02-25-2003 09:31 AM:

I dont know about you guys but i give this movie
an 8/8/9 quality is best ive ever seen for a TS
an OUTSTANDING release
a must GET and a must KEEP
thx for the Supreme release ESOTERiC

Posted by pHizZ on 02-25-2003 09:41 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by xtezy
I dont know about you guys but i give this movie
an 8/8/9 quality is best ive ever seen for a TS
an OUTSTANDING release
a must GET and a must KEEP
thx for the Supreme release ESOTERiC

You must not have seen many telesyncs, then. Anyway, the release is so-so. Props on the pre, and its a touch higher than ESO's normal releases, but the beginning is real rough, with the camera focusing and all, and the audio sounds a little distorted to me. Oh, and yes, CD2 is pretty out of sync.

5/4/6

Posted by napalmfuzz on 02-25-2003 10:48 AM:

i just got done watching this release.. it wasnt the best telesync ive ever seen by far.. but for sure it was a damn good pre.. and worth the download if you really wana see the movie.. as for desync on cd2.. there is none.. i dunno if youre using standalones or your PC's but i watched and there was absolutely no desynching.. all is well. great pre.. pretty damn good movie.. allthough kiss of the dragon is better.. allthough there was a really unexpected scene in the movie where jet li fights a whole gang of well known motherfuckers.. haha.. awesome

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Posted by backoff on 02-25-2003 02:22 PM:

Just got it and watched the sample. I dont know if I am gonna watch this today, or wait till Fri. This is the kind of movie I REALLY like, so I think I am gonna wait till Fri. to see. This is a GREAT release, compared to ESOTERiC's other ones. Much nicer than others they have had in the past. Keep up the good work ESO! You keep releasing these great pre's and you will get lots of respect.
6/5/JET LI SO IT IS A 10!

Posted by Air1 on 02-25-2003 05:36 PM:

no desync whatsoever for me. i stand by my guns at an 8/7/8

the only thing wrong with the audio is the weird way it sounds. definitely not out of sync by any means at all. cd1 or 2 both in sync just fine.

Posted by deathw on 02-25-2003 05:47 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by backoff

OMG Jet Li is SO much better at martial arts than Jackie Chan. Jackie Chan is humorous because he only uses chairs and shit and not REAL martial arts. He was a gymnist, so he does that kind of stuff. Jet Li won the adult martial arts award in China from ages 12-16, and that was against adults like 20+! Jackie Chan does have humor, but for action Jet Li is MUCH better.
(my 2 cents)

i dunno, jackie chan does put on a good show, jet li is just as good, but sometimes i'd rather have the comedy action rather than just action, i guess im just a humor type of guy

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Posted by SharkeysMachine on 02-25-2003 07:01 PM:

Nice release. The picture was fine, good color. Sound was a little funny, but totally understandable. I watched this on my standalone player, and Cd2 was in sync...
7/6/7

Posted by pHizZ on 02-25-2003 08:21 PM:

For some reason, CD2 started out of sync on my PC. Might've been PowerDVD or something, but when I converted/burned it, it worked fine. Sorry for the invalid review. My apologies.

Posted by PaulAAtreides on 02-26-2003 12:48 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by shaomasterlin
ummm am i the only one who noticed the audio of cd 2 for the most part being out of sync. decent copy thou 7/5/5

No, you're right...CD2 is out of sync...no doubt about it. Anyone who can't see it just aren't are looking at the lips and listening to the words - they don't match up.

Posted by xtezy on 02-26-2003 01:06 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by pHizZ
For some reason, CD2 started out of sync on my PC. Might've been PowerDVD or something, but when I converted/burned it, it worked fine. Sorry for the invalid review. My apologies.

finnally someone else sees the goddamn cd2 is not out
of sync it was a good solid release clear colorfull and good
sound ill say it again well worth the get and a keeper
for sure.

Posted by Vtec on 02-26-2003 01:57 AM:

Wasn't out of sync here either, watched it on both pc (powerdvd) and standalone (apex 5131).

Posted by horizonstar on 02-26-2003 06:47 AM:

nfo incorrect?

the nfo says 48x15MB per CD, but there's only 37 RAR files per disc? is this just a goof?

Posted by Vtec on 02-26-2003 09:22 AM:

Re: nfo incorrect?

quote:
Originally posted by horizonstar
the nfo says 48x15MB per CD, but there's only 37 RAR files per disc? is this just a goof?

probably, looks like it from what I see.

Posted by phoR20 on 02-26-2003 09:38 AM:

played fine disc one and two on my Mintek
7/6/6

Posted by The CandyMan on 02-26-2003 05:07 PM:

Got sample, burning full movie now. Quality of sample is a 8/8/?. Excellent work for a telesync, good job Esoteric.

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Posted by bptk on 02-26-2003 07:51 PM:

Cd2 is in sync it depends on your stand alone on my phillips it is de sycn'd but on my computer it plays fine

Posted by PaulAAtreides on 02-26-2003 10:25 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by PaulAAtreides

No, you're right...CD2 is out of sync...no doubt about it. Anyone who can't see it just aren't are looking at the lips and listening to the words - they don't match up.

plays out of sync on apex 1500....

fixed by running through TMPGE multiplex....

all ok now...

Posted by call2die4 on 02-27-2003 03:24 AM:

cradle 2 the grave

cd 2 was out of synch on my dvd player magnavox
but watched it on the pc and it the sound was out of synch
the first minute or two .

7-6-8 first cd
7-4-8 second cd

will try it in a pioneer and see what happens .

Posted by Lloyd_Banks on 02-27-2003 04:16 AM:

nice release, played fine on my dvd player. Cd 2 was not out of sync. When cd 1 starts he's filming the audience before the lights go out though, thought that was kind of funny.

Posted by pHizZ on 02-28-2003 07:12 AM:

Okay, here's MY deal. I just burned CD2 to a CD-R, and it played out of sync on my standalone player. However, when I appended CD1 and 2, and converted to DVD compliant mpeg, and burned it to DVD, it plays fine. It also starts sort of desynched on my PC, but fixes itself in the first few seconds. I don't know why it's like this, but I think the VCD is messed up... maybe some players fix it automatically, but mine doesn't.

Posted by D4y on 02-28-2003 01:56 PM:

video was pretty pixelated on my phillips standalone. other than that video was good. Audio was descent. cd2 got out of sync for a couple of minutes then it fixed itself. Thanks for the release.
6 (due to pixels-could have been my player)/6/x

Posted by horizonstar on 02-28-2003 11:31 PM:

finally got around to watching this. Excellent quality for a TS. gj, guys. no audio sync problems in either disc when watching the MPEG on my PowerBook.

Posted by lucium on 03-01-2003 12:57 AM:

5/6/?

Video is watchable, fairly good for a TS
Sound is Loud and a bit staticy, Bad for a TS, from first 2 min of cd 1 and first 2 min of cd2 i think it may be mislabeled Cam

Movie looks good haven't watched it yet..

Posted by pHizZ on 03-01-2003 05:04 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by lucium
5/6/?

Video is watchable, fairly good for a TS
Sound is Loud and a bit staticy, Bad for a TS, from first 2 min of cd 1 and first 2 min of cd2 i think it may be mislabeled Cam

Movie looks good haven't watched it yet..

I believe the camera guy was plugging the audio jack into the hearing aid in the beginning of CD1. The audio definitely changes.

Posted by backoff on 03-01-2003 04:06 PM:

It is not out of sync at all and it is GREAT
7/5/10

Posted by Heflink on 03-01-2003 06:41 PM:

Finally got a chance to look over this release, sound seems okay, not out of sync on my PC. Havent watched the whole thing yet.

6/6/?

Posted by mogweezer on 03-02-2003 05:54 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by backoff

...Jet Li won the adult martial arts award in China from ages 12-16, and that was against adults like 20+! Jackie Chan does have humor, but for action Jet Li is MUCH better.
(my 2 cents)

Jet Li won the national childrens comp here in the PR China in the early 80's. He didn't beat up a load of adults!

Both Jackie and Jet are classically trained martial artists althought very little of that comes through in their movies. Perhaps the closest would be Jet Li in the classic 'Shaolin Temple' where he musters a few forms...apart from that 99% of 'movie martial arts' are just inventions that look good on camera. Both actors are as versatile as they come but u shouldn't forget that Jackie is somewhat older than Jet...I think Jackie is in his early 50's now. How many 50 year old's do u know who are as athletic as Chan the man?

It's all about personal preferences really...

Re the rls: I've seen this pop up on dvd silver here and going by these posts i think i will grab it later this afternoon. I usually steer clear of cams/ts as i'm not as impatient as I used to be.

The de-synching issue is usually down to the dvd-player not the release. if someone reports that it 'is' all in sync then it must be fine...nu-bz's should try www.vcdhelp.com for more nfo.

Peace...

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Posted by EvanVanVan on 03-02-2003 02:49 PM:

7/5/?

o and i got a question about this release....in the nfo it says 48x15=CD1, 48x15=CD2...but when i got this offa news groups it was only 33x15=CD1 (with 3 par files) and 33x15=CD2 any one know why?

Posted by horizonstar on 03-03-2003 01:34 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by EvanVanVan
7/5/?

o and i got a question about this release....in the nfo it says 48x15=CD1, 48x15=CD2...but when i got this offa news groups it was only 33x15=CD1 (with 3 par files) and 33x15=CD2 any one know why?

dude, scroll up ...

Posted by Rezneck on 03-06-2003 02:52 AM:

Yep all in all good release, cept for the nonesence at the start but thats me being pedantic. Dont know bout the movie itself tho, but theres stuff all movies being released being february and all. But yea nice one eso.

Posted by morco on 03-13-2003 12:18 PM:

This is a good release, but at most action scences very pixelated, sound is good

good job

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