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Posted by on 06-01-2002 06:22 AM:

Smile lookin good

quality lookin good ftf cant wait to cop me it..


Posted by MovieGod on 06-01-2002 06:25 AM:

This version is not that bad......Its funny and well done..

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Posted by bbrain on 06-01-2002 06:37 AM:

How is the sound?

For those of you that have viewed this one.. how is the sound ?


Posted by ashtray13 on 06-01-2002 06:49 AM:

The Jpeg gives a better impression then the acual movie in my opinion but it was fast and it's ftf.. so good job FTF


Posted by SmAsH4000 on 06-01-2002 07:41 AM:

Nice job FTF, keep the good job coming and getting better!


PS:
Undercover.Brother.INTERNAL.SVCD.TS-Centropy

weird that for the 2nd time, CTP released a SVCD of the same movie as FTF does with both nice quality!


Posted by KayDawg on 06-01-2002 07:53 AM:

awesome
geez you get this stuff fast

still not sure if I'll go to the theaters or download this one :}


Posted by y2flyy on 06-01-2002 08:22 AM:

By the way this is my fist post
but ive been on these boards for a long time

this looks like an ok release judging from the pics
after d/l ftf's insomnia and bad company it does seem like they have improved greatly
but for my taste its no where good enough
so i will stay away from ftf's releases
they are always quick i give em that but i'll rather quality
ftf (like you're actually reading this) im not knocking you guys
b/c you risks you hinds every release
BUT overall the quality just sucks im sorry
Centropy I think is doing the best right now
I dont care what no one says about their svcds releases
their Teles are simple just better than everyone elses
if you have eyes you can see the difference
in ftfs insomnia it was very hard to see anything not to mention
the sides were cut off a little too far
but ctp's release of insomnia was way better down the line
great props to all groups though
just my two cents
Y2Flyy


Posted by M_J on 06-01-2002 08:50 AM:

its ftf so ill wait :]

nice early rls tho.


Posted by killfxp on 06-01-2002 09:19 AM:

Thumbs up


This release looks very good, both the picture and sound are good. Good job hbo your shit is getting much better then before. much much better...


Posted by napalmfuzz on 06-01-2002 09:38 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by M_J
its ftf so ill wait :]

nice early rls tho.


thats very homosexual of you... admitting to judging by the name.. i wish people like you would have their families raped and killed and broken bottle shoved up your ass

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Posted by gangsta on 06-01-2002 10:28 AM:

quality

the quality on this one is bad, I suggest waiting on this one.


Posted by ^Om3n on 06-01-2002 10:31 AM:

Haha, your a shout napalm.

I only have the sample of this release, and of the centropy release, so my opinion coes not reflect the entire release.

Neways, this looks like a very nice release from FTF, desent color, Color is much better in the Centropy internal. From what i see in the sample this is a very watchable release with nothing to complain about, not bad sound either, nice n clear. Overall a great release FTF. (or so it seems)

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Posted by ^Om3n on 06-01-2002 12:51 PM:

Re: quality

quote:
Originally posted by gangsta
the quality on this one is bad, I suggest waiting on this one.


Ok, I stand correted, just goes to show how much you can really tell from samples eh.

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Posted by gnosis on 06-01-2002 02:07 PM:

another shitty movie, i havent grabbed the sample yet and i highly doubt i wll because its a gay movie, so uhhh it looks nice for what i see here


Posted by SidewinG on 06-01-2002 11:30 PM:

video is a little blurry and sound has a empty sound to it, but watchable.


Posted by jdp on 06-01-2002 11:53 PM:

I've watched all of CD1, and from what I've seen, the movie is much worse quality than the jpg and sample. Video is jerky and blocky during high action scenes, audio is hollow, and 20 minutes or so into CD1 it drops out and goes very quiet. It's watchable, but I think I'll wait for a better release before watching the rest of the movie.


Posted by brr8760 on 06-02-2002 02:00 AM:

REVIEW

I've seen the whole movie, so here's an actual REVIEW:

Pros: Good picture, which never goes bad. Acceptable sound. Audio/video are in sync throughout (yay)! Widescreen done very well-- we see the whole movie. And, of course, it's an incredibly fast release, as usual from those killerz at FTF.

Cons: The sound goes bad a number of times, and for about eight minutes on disk 1, the volume goes up and down over and over again-- soft, normal, soft, normal. On disk 2, the sound goes way down (off briefly) for about 1-2 minutes.

Apart from these inexplicable sound problems, this is a very steady release, and appropriate for this lower-budgeted movie (unlike Sum of All Fears, which needs the ctp-level treatment).

Note: The movie itself is shamelessly racist. Every white person is treated as EVIL, or buffoonish, or both. It's laugh-out-loud funny at times-- and this is a satire-- but if you're (a white person and) sensitive toward being the butt of all the jokes, and are tired of black racism in general, you may want to skip this one.

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Posted by movies-are-cool on 06-02-2002 02:23 AM:

STOOPID FOOL no requesting - cx


Posted by ^Om3n on 06-02-2002 03:20 AM:

movies-are-cool

It is an INTERNAL release, one that was obviously not leaked otherwise it would be around and posted on here. Centropy is retiring from public release.

http://www.vcdquality.com/forum/sho...=&threadid=3313

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Posted by sdfjklsemicolon on 06-02-2002 06:21 AM:

I would just like to point out that if you extract the .MPGs from the BIN/CUEs you can just barely fit both files onto one 80 minute CD.


Posted by SamuraiLord on 06-02-2002 01:22 PM:

I watched the first half and the sound volume lowers a lot about half way thru, then picks up again.

it is watchable, but if someone puts out a version wih better sound, i would say wait


Posted by boarder on 06-02-2002 03:47 PM:

Need to get some newer cameras i think

FTF does come out with the movies early but need to get some new equiptment. And how about some faster computers so the sounds links up or maybe stop playing games on it as your encoding? Otherwise good job guys


Posted by WCR_4_LIFE on 06-02-2002 08:11 PM:

FTF

FTF u suck CENTROPY yall keep doiin waht yall do best


Posted by moviebootlegger on 06-02-2002 10:41 PM:

the pic on this is the best ive seen of ftf its rly nice. the sound is hollow a tad bit but hey this is the most watchable ftf besides van wilder. i like this ftf do more like this heh. aye guys imagine ftf with centropy calibur equipment. theyd own cuz they fast as hell and theyre would b better quality. IMAGINE THAT! heh but this rls is rly good i like :-)


Posted by VCDem0n on 06-02-2002 10:55 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by napalmfuzz

thats very homosexual of you... admitting to judging by the name.. i wish people like you would have their families raped and killed and broken bottle shoved up your ass



I think people who like FTF releases should get the same treatment
FTF=FUCKED THIS FILM ahaha


Posted by WiZZLa on 06-02-2002 11:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by VCDem0n


I think people who like FTF releases should get the same treatment
FTF=FUCKED THIS FILM ahaha



people who suck centropy's dick non-stop should also get treatment. mainly by using the jaws of life to pry their mouths open


Posted by VCDem0n on 06-02-2002 11:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by WiZZLa


people who suck centropy's dick non-stop should also get treatment. mainly by using the jaws of life to pry their mouths open



I got something you can WIZZLE on BOY!


Posted by WiZZLa on 06-02-2002 11:55 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by VCDem0n


I got something you can WIZZLE on BOY!



is there even going to be enough time? i mean, with you on your knees for centropy all the time, how will you make time for me?


Posted by sincere116 on 06-03-2002 08:08 AM:

Exclamation damn thats cold

i wish people like you would have their families raped and killed and broken bottle shoved up your ass

damn bro thats cold man just cause he knocked ftf

guess people take some of this to the heart

ftf good rls keep them coming.


Posted by misfits138 on 06-03-2002 11:47 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by VCDem0n


I think people who like FTF releases should get the same treatment
FTF=FUCKED THIS FILM ahaha



no this movie was fucked up to begin with...worst movie i've seen in a long time.


Posted by doobie on 06-03-2002 06:08 PM:

Thumbs up

It's got some okay video, no big glitches in the whole thing. Also the movie is gernerally in a light setting (as opposed to nighttime scenes, and dark alleyways, etc) so no real brightness issues. Lots of color in the movie and it looks fine for vcd/TS quality. You can check out the jpg's, I'd say they're a realistic interpretation of what you'll get.

Sound is the only issue with this releases. The sound quality drops a few times for 5-15 seconds. Just gets all fuzzy and you can't hear what they say for that time period (which isn't long). But the rest of the sound is just fine.

I havn't seen the CTP release of this movie yet (Obviously or I would be reviewing that one and not this one) but I'd say this one is definatly watchable, only problem with it is the sound, video is fine. Movie is watchable, mabey not sellable though, probably wanna get CTP if you wanna slang this flick.

Video: 8.2 (Not exceptional, but definatly superior)
Audio: 6.7 (Static, and distortions mabey 3 times throughout movie for 10seconds average at a time, lose 30sec of audio, not THAT big of a deal. But it loses some points for 'em)
Movie: 8.7 (Funny movie, not as funny as Super Troopers...but it's pretty good. Oh yea, and Denis Richards is HOT! So I actually give it an 8.9


Posted by the_goat on 06-03-2002 09:02 PM:

*NUKED*
bad quality


Posted by reverend on 06-03-2002 10:33 PM:

Re: REVIEW

quote:
Originally posted by brr8760
Note: The movie itself is shamelessly racist. Every white person is treated as EVIL, or buffoonish, or both. It's laugh-out-loud funny at times-- and this is a satire-- but if you're (a white person and) sensitive toward being the butt of all the jokes, and are tired of black racism in general, you may want to skip this one.


I thought it played on both white american AND black american racial stereotypes. More so on black american. Despite this, the movie was on the whole just too dumb to be offensive. I laughed a couple of times....the shower scene and the 'beat it' scene.


Posted by movies-are-cool on 06-04-2002 12:33 AM:

the color quality from FTF sucked!



CENTROPYs release is way better. why cant they post it on vcdquality anyway and just put internal so we can see the pics of it and stuff


Posted by Peilo on 06-04-2002 01:21 AM:

Bastard U should die

this is for napalmfuzz.......Nice you fell that way, love the way people are talked to just for voicing there opinion. I guesss I give ya mine. Anyways same goes for you bastard. I hope you fucking die next time you leave your house you fuk** loser, why dont you go rape your mother you fuk*** mentall case, you know you want to, atleast that what she told me after I sodomized here last night and she shit all over my dick, that fuckin slut, made her give me head when she was done............and yes ftf's cam release's sux a big fat cock, so now what lame, I could see if it were a 5 week early theater release but its not, cams sux, midas well not waste there time and do a ts oh I forgot there glory hounds and have to be first well tell ya what the glory goes to the best release, most of the time, unless its a early release like Mr.Deeds which is a good release considering how early it is, my 2 cents, oh I forgot my 1 cent gave the other cent to your mother last night on top of cab fare after I kicked the bitch out, by the way this has nothing to do with the quality of undercover brother release just wanted to flame this as*hole, havent seen it most likely pretty good considering its a ts ,there bad company suxed, but just got done watching Mr.deeds, from legion and thats a good release.

quote:
Originally posted by napalmfuzz

thats very homosexual of you... admitting to judging by the name.. i wish people like you would have their families raped and killed and broken bottle shoved up your ass


Posted by rusty2002 on 06-04-2002 03:24 AM:

well i watched the ctp one and i thought it was great once ftf gets better i will get stuff from them i know a couple people from their group and they admitted that they would rather get their release out first rater than take the time to encode it better


Posted by VCDem0n on 06-04-2002 03:57 AM:

GREAT CTP rls blows FTFs out the water too bad the movie sucks

why are they not posting anymore CENTROPY RLS here?


Posted by JoeRockhead on 06-04-2002 04:06 AM:

Quality of FTF and CTP Rel's

Ok I watched 1/2 of the CTP Release and 1/2 of the FTF, here's my 2 cents on the quality:

FTF:

Video: 8.5 - Video quality is good throughout, bright and very clear, nothing to complain about here.

Audio - 7 - The audio is generally good, but there are a couple of parts where it kind of fades is there is static/muffled, but it doesn't last too long.

Movie - 7 - it's a stupid comedy, which I like, just put your brain in park and relax and enjoy it.

CTP

Video and Sound: 9 - both are good.

I would say that FTF is a good release of this movie. Definitely a very watchable TS, my gf is picky and she didn't say a word about the quality of this one. ( I don't think she even noticed the difference between the 2 releases - we watched 1 disc of each)


Posted by dedHED on 06-04-2002 05:33 AM:

Angry has FTF ever released a watchiable movie?

PLEASE!

would FTF either release better quality (video and audio) or drop out tha scene!!

I dont give a fluck how SOON somethin is released... i need QUALITY!!!

F*c*ed Tup Film is what FTF means right? correct me if I am wrong here....

I mean sure even centropy releases a few poor quality flicks... but FTF is GUARENTEED to be CRAPOLA 100% of the time!!

i usually dont waste my time group bashing... but damn... how can one keep quiet about cheesers like ftf?

I just watched Undercover.Brother.SVCD.TS-CENTROPY and yea... it coyuld have been better... but it was at least watchable!

:-)

dont waste time with this ftf release.... go with Undercover.Brother.SVCD.TS-CENTROPY


Posted by VCDem0n on 06-04-2002 05:30 PM:

Been saying that the whole time but beware we cant group bash even though they rls garbage<--FORUM RULES


Posted by doobie on 06-04-2002 05:57 PM:

Nomatter what all the FTF haters say, this release is watchable. Lets keep in mind it's a fucking Telesync not a damn DVDRip. And you can't keep comparing FTF to CTP like people do, how stupid is that? Comparing the best in the biz to the worst in the biz?? Why can't you just let FTF release what you call, "Crap"? Who cares? People act like somone's forcing them to watch FTF releases and it being real painful or something. Anyway, I'm sure FTF doesn't like all the hating on 'em either, probably hurts their feelings, and that's NOT what we need. What they need is more positive reinforcment for every move they make towards a better release, and a lot less negative reinforcment for the not perfect releases, just ignore 'em or give a review...don't bash...


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Posted by dedHED on 06-04-2002 06:12 PM:

Angry oh! whoopsie

quote:
well that sux! guess i shoulda read rools first!
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Posted by dedHED on 06-04-2002 11:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by doobie
Nomatter what all the FTF haters say, this release is watchable {NOT}. Lets keep in mind it's a fucking Telesync not a damn DVDRip. And you can't keep comparing FTF to CTP like people do, how stupid is that? Comparing the best in the biz to the worst in the biz?? Why can't you just let FTF release what you call, "Crap"? Who cares? People act like somone's forcing them to watch FTF releases and it being real painful or something. Anyway, I'm sure FTF doesn't like all the hating on 'em either, probably hurts their feelings, and that's NOT what we need. What they need is more positive reinforcment for every move they make towards a better release, and a lot less negative reinforcment for the not perfect releases, just ignore 'em or give a review...don't bash...


-Doobie
PS. Hopefully my last non-review post



well when they jump on a movie and release it with thier typical crap quality... alot of times other real groups that CARE about quality wont release it because its already been done (sometimes big movies are re-released but in general not) and that what makes it suck! :-)


Posted by renegade on 06-05-2002 12:05 AM:

This release was decent. Okay picture but the audio was pure shit. Had that hollow sound of a cam and the fuzzy gliches were you couldnt hear shit. As for more the movie It was okay. In my opinion this release should get nuked. As for the movie it's not worth a svcd release. Overall stay away from this release.


Posted by WiZZLa on 06-05-2002 03:59 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by dedHED


well when they jump on a movie and release it with thier typical crap quality... alot of times other real groups that CARE about quality wont release it because its already been done (sometimes big movies are re-released but in general not) and that what makes it suck! :-)



actually, releasing a movie that was already released is allowed if the quality is better. most groups do that, thus the PROPERS and FIXED and READ.NFO along with the labels.


Posted by rolandtn on 06-05-2002 04:38 AM:

One of the better FTF releases

This is one of the better FTF releases. Good speed on the release . Sound seemed a little dense, but pic decent for TS


Posted by dedHED on 06-05-2002 06:54 AM:

Angry and it gets nuked

yea and ALOT of sites NUKE shit like that or have it right in tha rules to not up that stuff (which is stoopid) and then on top of that most sites (smart ones) nuke ftf right off tha bat (so then even IF you wanted to deal with lame ass shi* quality to see tha movie you were craving so bad YOU CANT!) comon folks we all know how these picky ass nuke0matic siteops werk...



*wow all this typin about nuttin sure seems a waste of my time... but oh well were else can I vent about anti-quality fux who bring down the whole vcd scene like FtF?


Posted by ^Om3n on 06-05-2002 12:06 PM:

I guess you we're too blind to see the good quality releases and pre' releases they do. I don't see any other group consistantly releases pre theatre TSs do you? FTF do not release shit, rather it is deminished in quality in comparrison to groups such as Centropy.

Yhose that nuke FTF right off the bat should grow up and not be so damn biased simply because of the name attached.

ps. i don't see people bitching at EVERY UTi release, there quality is in the same range as FTF. The only difference is that LD and UTi releases are labled CAM. Infact LD/UTi get quite allot of praise for the CAMs they do.

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Posted by frak on 06-05-2002 03:31 PM:

I just watched the FTF release.

The video is watchable, same quality as van wilder.

The sound is horrible, it cuts out in places, drops down to a whisper in others for periods of 1-2 minutes.

The movie is funny, worth the d/l i suppose.

However, if yer gonna waste bandwidth, get a better version.


Posted by VCDem0n on 06-05-2002 03:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ^Om3n
I guess you we're too blind to see the good quality releases and pre' releases they do. I don't see any other group consistantly releases pre theatre TSs do you? FTF do not release shit, rather it is deminished in quality in comparrison to groups such as Centropy.

Yhose that nuke FTF right off the bat should grow up and not be so damn biased simply because of the name attached.

ps. i don't see people bitching at EVERY UTi release, there quality is in the same range as FTF. The only difference is that LD and UTi releases are labled CAM. Infact LD/UTi get quite allot of praise for the CAMs they do.



FTF constantly rls garbage they never improve all they care about is speed and "pr0ps" not quality which i think is bullshit. UTIs cams are ok but they really screwed the pooch on DOG SOLDIERS a couple of months ago they totally ruined what is a great movie


Posted by ^Om3n on 06-05-2002 04:38 PM:

Ok, have to agree with you there VCDem0n, i also believe in Quality over Quantity. I just think all these morons that constantly bitch at FTF should grow up, i mean they are doing one of two things.
1. Bitching just because it was released by FTF, without even looking at the release therefor not having the slightest clue what it is really like. or
2. Downloading all of them, watching/looking at them and then bitching how bad it is, which is really fucking stupid, why continue to downloading them all to begin with, you would think that people would know what to expect from an FTF release then either get it because they would rather watch a shitty release than not at all and deal, or just not bother. Don't get me wrong, you are meant to comment on quality, its the ones that simply bitch thats its bad without saying why (i think mostly because they havn't actually got it, therefor cant)

As for this release in particular.
Video: the color and quality is very typical of vcd telesync standard and has a few glitches at parts
Audio: totally screwed, practically dies at parts as frak already mentioned, echo's badly and becomes a little staticy now and again.
Movie: it has a few funny points, but a no good story line that drops you'r interest very quickly. Oh and the actor sucks too.

Overall i really wouldn't suggest anybody bother getting it.

Edit: in italics

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Posted by VCDem0n on 06-05-2002 05:09 PM:

I dont download FTF
once you see the sample FORGETA BOUT IT
FTF has a reputation of a garbage quality rls as i do flaming haha
I WOULD RATHER GET A 8mm PROGECTOR AIM IT ABOVE A TOILET AND RUN THE MOVIE OVER SHITTY TOILET WATER AND WATCH A MOVIE RATHER THAN WATCH A FTF RLS
HAHAHAHA


Posted by dedHED on 06-05-2002 05:21 PM:

I agree

quote:
Originally posted by VCDem0n
I dont download FTF
once you see the sample FORGETA BOUT IT
FTF has a reputation of a garbage quality rls as i do flaming haha
I WOULD RATHER GET A 8mm PROGECTOR AIM IT ABOVE A TOILET AND RUN THE MOVIE OVER SHITTY TOILET WATER AND WATCH A MOVIE RATHER THAN WATCH A FTF RLS
HAHAHAHA



LMAO!!!!

ISNT THAT THE DAMN TRUTH!

its not about about COMPARING quality, its about quality peroid! If i download it and watch it, then it had BETTER be GOOD quality no matter WHO the group is! The only reason ppl bust on FTF is because its a pretty much guarentee that WHATEVER they touch turns to sh*t... I only download good new big hot movies, and ftf is always ruining those caliper of movies. And I ALWAYS watch a movie b4 posting or commenting on it, yes WHOLE fargin movie, not sample, not jpg W H O L E FARGIN MOVIE! (even FTFs) yes i still waste my time and bandwidth grabbin ftf crap, but i am always in fear that the movie I want to see will not be done RIGHT by another group or if it IS done right may get nuked b4 i grab it. Oh and exzactly WHAT movie has FTF done that you call quality???? who givues a SHI* about pre releases if they SUCK?


Posted by Peilo on 06-05-2002 05:42 PM:

tehehe

funny shit guy


quote:
Originally posted by VCDem0n
I dont download FTF
once you see the sample FORGETA BOUT IT
FTF has a reputation of a garbage quality rls as i do flaming haha
I WOULD RATHER GET A 8mm PROGECTOR AIM IT ABOVE A TOILET AND RUN THE MOVIE OVER SHITTY TOILET WATER AND WATCH A MOVIE RATHER THAN WATCH A FTF RLS
HAHAHAHA


Posted by WiZZLa on 06-05-2002 09:08 PM:

dedhed, if you "know every ftf touches turns to shit" yet still download it, then it's partially your own fault since you "know" what to expect, thus you can't bitch at their quality when the whole download you were expecting it.


Posted by VCDem0n on 06-05-2002 09:35 PM:

I cant get over that RAVER quote ahhahahah


Posted by realized on 06-07-2002 02:18 AM:

CTP's ISN'T TELESYNC????

In the CTP Release of Undercover brother there are two places near the last 30 min of the movie where you can see the MIC from "the sky" comming down so it can be near the actors / record everything, and a camera moving from the left to the right...


I doubt that the film is in the theatear like this, but why would ctp release a "Telesync" if its reallly not ?


Posted by error404 on 06-07-2002 08:23 AM:

Smile

hmm...I might get this Version for once I actually heard that FTF released a Watchable Version of a movie.


Posted by VCDem0n on 06-07-2002 04:35 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by error404
hmm...I might get this Version for once I actually heard that FTF released a Watchable Version of a movie.


answer: go up six replies ahahahah


Posted by frak on 06-08-2002 01:07 PM:

I will say this in addition.

Sure FTF's quality on 95% of the releases sucks anus.

But at least they are getting stuff out, I'd hate to see this scene die off.

And the real reason for my second post.. LOL

did anyone else release a good version of Van Wilder? I actually like the movie, but the FTF release I got.....well..... you know.

haha

frak


Posted by Skorpio on 06-12-2002 09:40 PM:

Movie sucked ass but that quality was good. This is really a movie for people in the hood and ages 11-15


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