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Posted by X69 on 10-30-2005 02:49 AM:


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Posted by Lord_Nykon on 10-30-2005 02:52 AM:

Good Quality Release
Prodigy, you guys ROCK!

Audio is clear and crisp
Video is just right
Not to dark like the other rls's.

Video: 8.0
Audio: 8.0
Movie: Havent watched it yet, in the process


Posted by Schmiggy JK23 on 10-30-2005 02:54 AM:

Sample looked damn impressive.

very good for a TC.

8/9/??

As dark as the movie is, i cant really tell if this is dark, but the colors seem vibrant even considering.

Good audio, couple spots it seemed out of sync so far, around the 15 min mark, any one else notice that?

hopefully this is somewhat good. love the games, and dig the rock.

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Posted by Nodders on 10-30-2005 03:10 AM:

9/8/6
Real good telecine. Nice enough sound.
Movie was.. well.. can´t expect a lovely masterpiece based on a fps game, but it´s a nice way to spend a few hours.
The fps scenes are real fun and kinda inspires me to play the game again.


Posted by HaLiKuS on 10-30-2005 03:17 AM:

Very nice. FPS scenes that were terrible on the cams look nice and are the only part of the flick worthwhile. The constantly shooting dead bodies is funny too.
8/8/2

cd 1 goes out of sync around 15:00 but fixes itself...


Posted by rattlesnake2002 on 10-30-2005 03:23 AM:

now it would HELP if it was a TC which it isnt anyhow decent rls nuttin spectacular and yea look b4 u speak as this AINT A tc


Posted by Neomic2005 on 10-30-2005 03:24 AM:

Judgeing from the sample...

V: 8.5 - Oh so slightly grainy, but very good none the less..

A: 8 - Direct, and sounds stereo...

M: n/a - Will download full version when an xvid or DVDR is released...

Nice job Prodigy!


Posted by MyNameIsAnakin on 10-30-2005 03:25 AM:

Good release but its not a TC.

Why do groups lie these days? Just be honest and take a nuke, cause your going to get nuked anyways.

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Posted by SwooP-CrawL on 10-30-2005 03:41 AM:

Well as for what it is... a TS


v- 8 Colors are right on! But the camera is out of focus and blurry throughout the whole movie, i like my copies a little crisiper and sharper!


s- 9 A+++++ good work!



m - 2


I would rather play the doom95 on a p1 with 32mb of ram then watch this one again!!!

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Posted by PiMpZta on 10-30-2005 03:43 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by MyNameIsAnakin
Good release but its not a TC.

Why do groups lie these days? Just be honest and take a nuke, cause your going to get nuked anyways.



i wud personally explain myself but jus simply look at da nfo and mebe u'll get sumn. if u cant make it, dun criticize it

vid: mint
audio: mint
movie: jus another flop dat will make some money only cuz of its name

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Posted by NoNe23 on 10-30-2005 03:51 AM:

Well i DOnt Know If I Would Call This A TC But Works For Me And Fast Too
From Sample:

Video=8

Audio=8

Movie=Not Seen

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Posted by EViL-EWoK on 10-30-2005 04:22 AM:

8
8
possible the worst movie ever made?

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Posted by protekt0r on 10-30-2005 05:15 AM:

quote:
possible the worst movie ever made?


Awwww... it wasn't that bad. Mortal Combat was worse :-)

Video: 7. not very sharp. but hey, a TC only a couple weeks after the release? i'm in!

Audio: 8. didn't notice any sync problems or hissing (which seems to be common in TC's these days, hissing)

Movie: 5. I was expecting worse. So... maybe I'm a whore and just easy to please. muahahaa.

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Posted by rattlesnake2002 on 10-30-2005 05:53 AM:

it IS out of sync -_- confirmed by a few people


Posted by Schmiggy JK23 on 10-30-2005 06:27 AM:

watched the whole thing, just got done.

there are about 4-5 spots where there are maybe 15-30 second moments where its out of sync. nothing major, still quite watchable.

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Posted by cfw on 10-30-2005 06:32 AM:

based on sample:

v: 8
s: 9
m: ehhh..

this is a telesync rather than a TC all the way. TC's have that movie theater look to the film. now compared to other TS's, this one is awesome.


Posted by certified_mad on 10-30-2005 08:52 AM:

Good release you don't really notice the out sync it sorts it's self out quickly good work.

8/7/6

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Posted by Nick13 on 10-30-2005 09:01 AM:

Sync issues

Quiet a few times it goes out of sync real nasty, then comes back to normal. Kind of annoying but watchable. First disk about 16 min in goes out of sync then comes back at 18:30 or so, then 29:20 again, then at the end of disk too. CD2 begins all the way out of sync. If you don't pay much attention then it's not big deal since every thing else is good. It reminds me "40 Year Old Virgin" - it had same problem.

Video - 8.5 / Audio - 8.5 (with out sync issues) 6.5 (with sync issues) movie - will watch..


Posted by djplayboy on 10-30-2005 10:57 AM:

well i hope its a tc coz i don't bother wastein my bandwith on any thing less............... review to cum soon...


Posted by D0BB0 on 10-30-2005 11:52 AM:

Nice ts its never tc

8/8/probably shite


Posted by dontbegay on 10-30-2005 12:11 PM:

looks good on a tele.... maybe not a tc but good enough for now

sync issues are annoying.... should check these things before release !!!!


for tc (doubtful)


video- 7
audio-6 (would be 8.5 if not for the sync problems)
movie-6


Posted by Roger on 10-30-2005 12:35 PM:

nfo is a piece of shit, prodigy aka ex saosin member ( not the good ones) trying to rebuild the old name with some piece of shit comming from russian news group, crap.

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/4543/saw2tsxvidmaven2az.jpg

at least, maVen taging right ...


Posted by dontbegay on 10-30-2005 12:42 PM:

aaaand the reason youre posting jpg's of SAW 2 in the DOOM review thread is ??????????????


Posted by Roger on 10-30-2005 12:46 PM:

to show a ts what should be, and a tc should be better then this, you don't have to look at what movie it is, but mainly at what the sharpness and colors are ( for this type of movie ) as for a TC even if the movie is *fucking dark* you don't mind , because the print is made like this, so the movie is like this, if they do a TC with a 24p camera on a smaller screen ( what russian does ) then its normal that on this type of movie, you will clearly see this is not a tc, wich mean, this group is full of shit.

i would be interested to see what a good ts could be compared to this. This is my point .


Posted by katalist on 10-30-2005 12:50 PM:

Video - 8
Sound - 8
Movie - 4 (What a peice of shit this movie was, why cant they make a movie about a videogame as good as DUNE2 anymore?? Both the movie and the game where sweeeet)


Posted by CATBOX on 10-30-2005 12:52 PM:

Video is nice. Its a dark movie, and thats to be expected. I'm not saying that its not a TC, but with all the previous releases, the dark scenes were pretty much unwatchable. At least in this version you can see whats going on. I'm not seeing any signs that this is a mislabeled Telesync. So judging as a Telecine:

8- as good as we're gonna get until a screener. Dark, but nice.

7- The sound is nice and direct, but has multiple sync problems throughout.

7- Definitely entertaining, but not oscar worthy. :-)

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Posted by White Rabbit on 10-30-2005 01:01 PM:

nice release, but imo not a tc

v 8.5 (a little blurry, but decent qualty and more watchable than the others)

a 9 (very clear audio)

m ?

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Posted by Arthur Daily on 10-30-2005 01:14 PM:

The best release of this movie so far, i give them that much but that's where it ends.
I refuse to Rate a movie that's mislabeled,
they are ether too thick to know the difference between a TS and a TC
or they just take us all for Mugs.

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Posted by Blazed Monkey on 10-30-2005 01:15 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by katalist
Video - 8
Sound - 8
Movie - 4 (What a peice of shit this movie was, why cant they make a movie about a videogame as good as DUNE2 anymore?? Both the movie and the game where sweeeet)



Dune, both the video game and the movies, were based off of Frank Herberts novels. Read a book for fucks sake.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=books&n=507846


Posted by dragon25 on 10-30-2005 01:56 PM:

unfortunately many sites are nuking for being a TS lol

also with the tc.xvid-asteriods version as well


Posted by hutt on 10-30-2005 02:24 PM:

quote:
unfortunately many sites are nuking for being a TS lol


Does anyone really give a fuck when something is nuked?
I have watched plenty of 'nuked' movies and there were perfectly fine.
What's the point?


Posted by EricdeVet on 10-30-2005 02:27 PM:

Watched both parts, and found that the audio is out of sync in some parts on both CD images.


Posted by movies_r_great on 10-30-2005 02:59 PM:

I have been waiting for a good copy to surface of this movie

V-8
A-6 (out of sync really annoys me)
M-? Will Post After Finishing Movie


Posted by Hairyhamster on 10-30-2005 03:26 PM:

as a tc..... piss poor
as a ts which i think it is..... not bad

overall not sharp enuff, and colors are over bright at times

8/8

thats being generous

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Posted by Penecho on 10-30-2005 03:56 PM:

Video - a really good TS

Audio - hangs a bit on my PC (like you plug and unplug the line - connector) but only the Movie, Sample is OK!!???

Movie - haven't seen it yet



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Posted by pelu on 10-30-2005 04:41 PM:

tc or ts?

my opinon is who cares! its as good as most tc's these days. what is important here is, that people are getting you these releases. nice to hear of audio out of sync issues, but no need to bash the video saying ts no tc. its free

v=8 abit grainy
a=7 some sync issues
m=3 if you like the game you may enjoy the movie

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Posted by nvadr on 10-30-2005 05:04 PM:

watchable

Much better copy! Colors look vivid and sound is stable.. 8/9/5.

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Posted by nvadr on 10-30-2005 05:11 PM:

much better

Looks good.. Much better than the cams, first posted. 8/8/5..


Posted by CJL18 on 10-30-2005 06:39 PM:

it's a TC it has credits at the end when has a tS ever had credits

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Posted by dragon25 on 10-30-2005 07:10 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by hutt
Does anyone really give a fuck when something is nuked?
I have watched plenty of 'nuked' movies and there were perfectly fine.
What's the point?



NOT really, but to be honest i would rather respect a group for being honest and stop l;ieying for fuck sake.

why have there been so many bloody grouops claimed tc when their ts or even a bloody cam?

hell if you lot that dont give a shit and have bandwith to waste and time to burn then fine, but i prefer to know what im getting when downloading and not finding the quality of the film is a cam when i was expecting a tc .

the tc (ts) xvid by asteriods is better though in my opion


Posted by RUiNU on 10-30-2005 08:26 PM:

Best svcd out so far of this movie. 8/7/7


Posted by kidrock on 10-30-2005 09:45 PM:

can sum1 pls for and for all tell me da diff between a TS and a TC......!!!!
pls.....!


Posted by Methadon on 10-30-2005 11:42 PM:

Well, I think this was mislabeled as a TC because this is looking like (from sample) a REALLY GOOD TS, which we haven't seen much of lately. Will post my ratings when I'm done seeing the movie.


Posted by Dr.Dre on 10-31-2005 12:36 AM:

Syncing ?

you guys have been talking bout syncing does it happends like 5 times thhrought the movie or constantlyso far this looks liek the best quality jsut want to be sure about the syncing Before i do anything else


Posted by thredworm on 10-31-2005 02:20 AM:

Nice release overall.

8/7/6


Movie really isn't as bad as all that. Depends if you like no-brainer movies with lots of guns. If you do then you can take it for what it is.


Posted by jrw on 10-31-2005 02:29 AM:

Sorry but this is not a Telecine, if it was then why is it so cropped, also the overall video quality is not that great and the Audio has random sync issues, I have better quality VHS movies.


6/7/7


Posted by ^Om3n on 10-31-2005 09:53 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Schmiggy JK23
Good audio, couple spots it seemed out of sync so far, around the 15 min mark, any one else notice that?

Yes, this is the second release to have the same 'drifting' audio track that goes in and out of sync in several places, they obviously 'borrowed' the same dts disc that the ts used. I honestly dont understand why they would use the same audio known to have sync problems. (it also drops off completely during the closing scenes/credits, which suggests that they didn't even have a copy of the original audio, more like they were given it by another group, or even took it straight from the other release)

Anyway, dispite that, video is decent and clear, cropped a bit, not too dark at all. Audio is pretty good, clear and defined. Was gonna watch this release but the film doesn't interest me enough to put up with the drifting.

7/5

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Posted by Captnhook on 10-31-2005 12:48 PM:

6/5/4

quote:
Originally posted by kidrock
can sum1 pls for and for all tell me da diff between a TS and a TC......!!!!
pls.....!



CAM - basically just a guy who uses either regular or professional camcorder to shoot the movie either from TV or actually inside a movie theatre (in most copies you can actually see and hear the audience as well).

Telesync - a copy which was shot in an empty cinema or from the projection booth with a professional camera, directly connected to the sound source, these are generally very good quality.

Telecine - done in various ways, but normally it includes process where the movie is taken directly from the reel to digital format and then encoded into DVD-R, VCD, SVCD, DivX or XviD format. The most common way is to get a device that you attach to the projector that generates a copy of the reel (called a telecine machine).

Screener - a copy made from either VHS tape or from DVD-Video disc that are sent to movie critics and censors before the movie is available to public through video rental chains. Normally a very good quality copy, some times a copyright message appears on the screen.

Work-Print - Each frame of the film is copied from celluloid (or another source); these are sometimes incomplete movies (i.e. time coded), usually high quality but it can vary.

LD/DVDRip - copy made directly from a DVD-Video disc and the quality is typically excellent.


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Posted by Mystic Slippers on 10-31-2005 07:47 PM:

NOT a TC. It's a TS. Clearly given away by the dodgy audio and the wonky end credits.

Nice quality TS tho.

FFS enough with the current trend of mislabeled TC's though.

As for this movie. Fuck watching it, no thanks.


Posted by Mr_Grinch on 10-31-2005 09:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Captnhook

CAM - basically just a guy who uses either regular or professional camcorder to shoot the movie either from TV or actually inside a movie theatre (in most copies you can actually see and hear the audience as well).

Telesync - a copy which was shot in an empty cinema or from the projection booth with a professional camera, directly connected to the sound source, these are generally very good quality.



Nope, sorry. A telesync is identical to a cam in every aspect except it has a direct audio source. A telesync can be shot inside the theatre and you can quite commonly see people shifting about.

...and how many tv groups cap programs by pointing a video camera at the tv?!?


Posted by diavolo23 on 10-31-2005 11:55 PM:

Doom

I just finished watching this version and the dialogue was out of sync. Did this happen to anyone else?


Posted by xjules on 11-01-2005 01:45 AM:

Couple of things.
Now I'm no hardcore scener or anything (I'm not some lamer bittorrent kid but I have absolutely nothing FTP-wise, which is what counts) but I do know a bit about the state of the scene today and about video in general, and last I heard DTS-2 hadn't been cracked yet. So the poster above who said Prodigy used the same DTS source as some other group was wrong... it's probably line source from a deaf-people jack in the theater.
Remember the "concession stand" bit in the ORC release? From the line-in.
Also, there's no rule about TSs or TCs and credits... if they're not there, they probably chopped them off to fit on 2 CDs.

I'll repeat what everyone has been saying about this release: It's a mislabeled telesync. Nuked pretty much all over. Not that nuking makes a release invalid (remember that group TheFly with the EXCELLENT DVDSCRs that got nuked for a bitrate header problem?) but hey, rules are rules.

Damnit, I rambled again.

In conclusion, this went wide in Russia on the 27th so maybe we'll have a real TC soon.


Posted by frak on 11-01-2005 11:02 AM:

watched this on the tv tonight...

very good quality overall, especially for such a dark movie.

video is excellent, audio is clear (few sync problems, nothing thats a big deal as they clear up quickly).

movie.. good for what it was.

v:8.5
a: 8
m: 6.5


Posted by neila2 on 11-01-2005 09:43 PM:

lipsync miles out please nuke

nuke this release the lipsync is miles out


Posted by brainguy on 11-02-2005 01:45 AM:

Nice release...v - 9; a - 8.5 ; m - 7


Posted by frak on 11-03-2005 11:12 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by dragon25
NOT really, but to be honest i would rather respect a group for being honest and stop l;ieying for fuck sake.

why have there been so many bloody grouops claimed tc when their ts or even a bloody cam?

hell if you lot that dont give a shit and have bandwith to waste and time to burn then fine, but i prefer to know what im getting when downloading and not finding the quality of the film is a cam when i was expecting a tc .

the tc (ts) xvid by asteriods is better though in my opion




nuking for a mislabeled "cam" is one thing.. (calling say a TS), but some of the nukes are just plain stupid. Especially when the quality is good, but say the bitrate was too high. My player will play just about anything, and if I have to, I'll re-encode it. Especially given the amount of junk thats been released in the past few months.


Posted by Dominus on 11-04-2005 01:14 PM:

Exclamation WHY ISN'T THIS NUKED?!?!?!

Yeah I found this release to be out of sync lots. It does correct itself, but still not proper.

V - 8.4 (Dark a but but still pretty good!)

A - 4.4 (Sorry, OOS issues drop it 5 points!)

M - 4.2 (Total Crap! A half decent director wouldn't have fucked this movie up!)

Anyways, not sure why this hasn't been nuked, It looks like everyone else had Sync issues. You put the 2nd CD in & right away the audio is out, that and it looks like it's missing a few seconds between the 1st & 2nd parts. Thanks though, just wish audio & video could be more in sync. Too many releases are like this now, and it's a shame they're not being nuked for it!

Thanks again...


Posted by DairyMan73 on 11-04-2005 02:03 PM:

Cool

GOOD QUALITY AND VIDEO AND SOUND EXCELLENT


Posted by servie_b on 11-04-2005 09:31 PM:

I only noticed just one sync issue at the beginning of CD2. I thought the picture was very clear and may yet be a TC, but is has this shiny thing in bright spots which makes me think it's a TS.
But hey, the quality is great and it's free.

V: 9
A: 8
M: 7


Posted by Dominus on 11-05-2005 02:27 AM:

Talking YAH!

Finally justice prevails! It's now Nuked! Thanks for the release guys, hopefully we get a proper now!


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