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Posted by CaptainPooHat on 06-17-2003 06:29 AM:

mucho better than logistic, audio especially

8/8/? watch it tomorrow

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Posted by Debo on 06-17-2003 06:31 AM:

not to metion logistic was 3cds
8/8

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Posted by Inspektor_Kul on 06-17-2003 06:33 AM:

maybe a little better than logistic, but not better enough for a proper. i don't care if you're ctp or some other shit, if you release something that was released before and was decent/good, you release a dupe

if ctp really wants to play by the rules, they should have labelled it "internal" - it would have been spreading anyway


Posted by Carson on 06-17-2003 06:38 AM:

3 cd's down to 2... I'd say that's grounds for a legit release... but then again, I don't know anything.


Posted by Inspektor_Kul on 06-17-2003 06:59 AM:

well, that might be a good reason for proper, but it is sort of arrogant to just release something without "proper" in the tag (let alone the fact that nfo doesn't say anything either) - yes, ctp has defined the standards of svcd TS, but that doesn't mean they can do whatever they want and expect everybody to be happy


Posted by t33d0ugh on 06-17-2003 06:59 AM:

very legitimate release....... improperly tagged IMO shouldve been a proper....... but who the fuck am I?
but definitely nice rls...... CTP still owns you whores

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Posted by Carson on 06-17-2003 07:04 AM:

according to the IRC chan (vcdq one) , it's the script that the site uses.. since it is the same title as the logistic release, it gets *DUPE* tag. I don't have any way of verifying this myself though, so some mod would have to speak up on the subject before we know for sure.


Posted by HuFFKING on 06-17-2003 07:05 AM:

dupe Eh?

Dupe wtf does that mean either way ill get this rls ill get the vcdcen rugrats though its much better


Posted by Carson on 06-17-2003 07:07 AM:

when you say VCDCen, do you mean NOX? I'm not seeing a VCDCentral rls of Rugrats.. or maybe I'm just slow (which is often the case)


Posted by Phreaker47 on 06-17-2003 07:09 AM:

Let them call it dupe as long as it's not a nuke, hadn't gotten either release yet so now i'll get this one.


Posted by HuFFKING on 06-17-2003 07:11 AM:

You right its nox whatever still better dont now why i thought vcdcentral


Posted by firefighter on 06-17-2003 07:17 AM:

From the Sample - Nice Picture and Colors , Sounds great too. Picking er up now

8/8/?

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Posted by CydeEffect on 06-17-2003 07:26 AM:

Movie sucks

i have to give it a 7-7-4, the movie sucks ass, but centropy always rocks, even if its a *Dupe*


Posted by Cable Boy on 06-17-2003 07:32 AM:

this is a better release and it will be the one im watchin since i believe the last release was kinda crappy quality
video just doesnt seem as crips as last releases
7.5/8/


Posted by mwtgg on 06-17-2003 07:44 AM:

I just grabbed the sample. Overall good release. Very nice video - audio is really suberb. I don't see an angle on video. 7/8/?

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Posted by your name here on 06-17-2003 07:52 AM:

very nice rls


8/8/7

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Posted by Dirty on 06-17-2003 08:13 AM:

Great picture!

But a DUPE?!
Oh well.... Logistic's release wasnt that bad but this sure as hell beats it by a mile. Good job I guess...

8/8/X


Posted by Butch on 06-17-2003 08:15 AM:

*From Sample*

Once again nice picture and sound CTP.Thats another film taken care of until a screener is about.
8/8/?

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Posted by SneakySix on 06-17-2003 08:30 AM:

ok,

i may be drunk

but its no script, its staff going dupe

ctp rlsd a rls with same dir name as another grp = DUPE!

fucking noobs learn shit,

it may be better, if it was they should proper. id be fine with that

but npoooooooooo they thinkg there big shit so they dont need scneene tags,

quote:

very legitimate release....... improperly tagged IMO shouldve been a proper....... but who the fuck am I?
but definitely nice rls...... CTP still owns you whores



even thow your my negro, i still think your wrong, its not legitimate because its a dupe.

quote:

according to the IRC chan (vcdq one) , it's the script that the site uses.. since it is the same title as the logistic release, it gets *DUPE* tag. I don't have any way of verifying this myself though, so some mod would have to speak up on the subject before we know for sure.



theres no such script


Posted by Senic on 06-17-2003 09:01 AM:

8/8


Posted by master-drew on 06-17-2003 09:53 AM:

hahaha Centropy got a nuke! nice..

8/7/?

Centropy - time to learn how to play the game right


Posted by Lilshorty43 on 06-17-2003 10:29 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by master-drew
hahaha Centropy got a nuke! nice..

8/7/?

Centropy - time to learn how to play the game right




It wasnt nuked.


8/8/5


Posted by lostaznguy on 06-17-2003 11:35 AM:

Is this a good recommended movie to watch?


Posted by Bullet on 06-17-2003 02:28 PM:

Def better the logistic. I mean commonnn. Ctp rules as always. Just my opinion

8/8/7


Posted by flex0r on 06-17-2003 02:40 PM:

Cool

sound is very clear, pic is a little flickering but overall better rls than logistic's and 2cd's, about the proper stuff.. they just feel they don't need that kinda tags cause much places have svcd.ts from ctp allowed or not anyways, those places will take a dupe cause it's almost always much better

7/8/?


Posted by Mouth_Full21 on 06-17-2003 03:05 PM:

nice rls... the colour is a bit faded... but the sound deffinitely makes up for it bigtime... keeep em' coming CTP
8.5/9/?


Posted by KrackZaa on 06-17-2003 04:46 PM:

you could have labeled it Hollywood.Homicide.TS.SVCD-Centropy *NUKE* *DUPE* but as long as ctp releases it you know its not because of the quality it gets this tag. Maybe ctp should put proper or internal but their releases (until very recently with nox and pv and logistic) they have had little competition and they have constantly provided top quality ts's so they had little reason too. i doubt people will not spread this even if it was nuked so go ahead and nuke or dupe it if you must.

8/8

great job ctp two releases in one day keep it up!

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Posted by ophir on 06-18-2003 12:29 AM:

8 / 8 / x


Posted by Phlag on 06-18-2003 12:32 AM:

Jesus, I just can't see why CTP wouldn't label this a PROPER, or maybe even INTERNAL. When they broke the rules for SVCD TS's, I was pretty pleased with their experimentation. But seemingly intentionally fucking up something as simple as proper labeling just seems like a lack of respect to the other groups, who I might add are approaching CTP quality. Same goes for a few other recent CTP releases.

7.5/8/4


Posted by Asterisk on 06-18-2003 12:33 AM:

Like most of the other centropy releases recently it is technically a dupe, so it should be nuked.

It's up to sites to nuke it, not anyone in particular, so if sites wanna nuke it they can, but most will allow it, just caus it's centropy and they know it's in demand.

Centropy will be allowed on sites regardless of what they label their releases, but I do agree they should start labelling properly, just to avoid confusion.


Posted by wikd on 06-18-2003 01:35 AM:

omfg, another dupe by CTP, go figure, if they cant get their shit out fast enough, face the facts, twis what iNTERNAL is for, bout time i seen em get nuked.


Posted by kilik123 on 06-18-2003 02:49 AM:

As far as Hollywood Homicide goes 8/8/? Not their best work but still up to their standards :-)


Posted by Venom_IL on 06-18-2003 06:29 AM:

Thumbs up

Personally, I think CTP are making a statement...
that they dont give a shit about nukers and scene rules

i seem to recall they rlsd something with great quality and labaled it INTERNAL for no apparent reason, just for fun

im also pretty sure they said in their nfo somewhere something like nukers, nuke away.. etc

they simply dont care
they know they're the best in what they do, so why should they

would irc channels stop serving them because they broke some rules, even though their rls are the best ?

i dont think so..

thats my opinon, anyways..


Posted by Tweezer on 06-18-2003 06:32 AM:

8/8

ctp should label correctly


Posted by vcdking on 06-18-2003 10:54 AM:

DL NOW JUST WATCHED SAMPLE LOOKS GREAT 7/7/8


Posted by BONGO_2003 on 06-18-2003 11:39 AM:

next time lads BEFORE you vote
watch the full film ...

cos cd1 is totaly fucked at 30min into the film it breaks up
till the end of cd1

wheres the repack CTP?????????


6/6/*


Posted by Spunko on 06-18-2003 11:44 AM:

lovely jubbly - just checked the quality and its the usual ctp vibe. Nice colours, pic & audio. Props on another great svcd.
8/7/?


Posted by rodney on 06-18-2003 12:53 PM:

this release is the best one out though it should be nuked. if ctp cant get it out fast enough then they should label it at least proper if not internal. if this was any other group with the same quality release (some groups are nearly up to par with ctp now anyway) it would have been nuked for being a dupe but oh well.

8/9/8 standard ctp release though it did seem a little pixelated


Posted by knweedo on 06-18-2003 04:23 PM:

8/8/?

Centropy is just becoming snobish. It's as if they are worried about loosing their position in the VCD scene. Lots of groups are experimenting with SVCD TS's and producing very good results, many just as good as Centropy's. For centropy to release an SVCD TS after another group has, with no reason(proper, internal, etc) shows they have no respect for other groups, or the rules of the VCD scene. As of late I have lost my respect for Centropy. They are no longer bringing the best quality releases, but rather releasing pointlessly after other groups have released the same thing.


Posted by xmojojojox on 06-18-2003 06:31 PM:

as i was reading through these posts venom_il basicliy said what
i was going to say. Centropy rules and alwasys has!
Further more ctp has been on top for i dont know how long and no group can touch their acomplishments.
i dont think that they care about scene rules,and as far as their releases are concned neither do i or any of the sites i patronize.
this release was substandard to a normal ctp rls.


Posted by MovieGod on 06-18-2003 06:59 PM:

actually this is very very nice. logistics was good, but this is much much better.

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Posted by Butch on 06-18-2003 07:19 PM:

quote:
next time lads BEFORE you vote
watch the full film ...

cos cd1 is totaly fucked at 30min into the film it breaks up
till the end of cd1


LMFAO.Your writer can go lower than 48 speed as well!

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Posted by thejackal2000 on 06-18-2003 08:00 PM:

y should it be a proper? i was under the impression it gets propered if another version is out that is the same (with something wrong i.e mono sound whatever) since log`s was 3 cd`s and the other was vcd there is no reason to proper.

and to everyone who keeps bitching everytime ctp release something, wots ur problem?
before they were very impressive, svcd ts the only group to release them, awesome quality - whats wrong with that?
now we have a few other groups venturing into it, but at the moment theres normally a few problems that need sorting out.untill thats done, and nox/log start releasing ctp quality releases, well, i dont know what to say, is it cos u want divx reencodes of ctp releases, but they dont release them as early as other groups or what?
i mean really think about it, most people prefer quality (i know i do) so u`d get the best version u can befor a dvd release is out.which is ctp. just deal with it.

as for release. best so far. recomended


Posted by temp0 on 06-19-2003 07:17 AM:

Yeah, CTP sure is the best at what they do...

...filming a goddamn angle.

I'll take the logistic any day.

Seriously, though. Color, sharpness, audio is DEAD ON. Why can't they just fix one little thing.

And in response to the literally millions of SVCD TSs released for each individual movie, there's an old saying: "Do it once; do it right." Hopefully groups like VCDCentral, who are already very close, will overcome the other competition, so we won't have to suffer the torture of these angles.

6/9/2


Posted by HYDRO187 on 06-19-2003 10:43 AM:

7/8/9

Good movie to watch w/ the gf. Although cd1 has some problems, a repack would be nice, but not expected at all, we can live


Posted by thugtillidie on 06-19-2003 04:05 PM:

not bad guys...a little dark..but i think its just my computer screen cause ever one i download is mad dark. Great Audio and Video looks good...keep it up. Maybe we could get a bad byz like this...

8-9-6


Posted by lifebringer on 06-19-2003 04:45 PM:

angle? granted i'm only flipping through the sample, but, i see no angle. another fine centropy release for another summer to fill the gap inbetween fall dvd screeners =)


Posted by KrackZaa on 06-19-2003 05:48 PM:

yeah i dont know about the repack there buddy it definitely didnt mess up on my player, although for like 3 seconds in the middle of cd1 it does go a little dark and the sound goes too, but other than that right up to par with ctp. (after watchin full version)

movie was pretty good, not great, but decent.


Posted by Tweezer on 06-19-2003 08:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by thejackal2000
y should it be a proper? i was under the impression it gets propered if another version is out that is the same (with something wrong i.e mono sound whatever) since log`s was 3 cd`s and the other was vcd there is no reason to proper.



a release gets propered if another release of the same type is availible, IE: If hollywood homicide VCD TS gets released and then another groups releases a VCD TS of it, it should be labeled with the *proper* tag, same goes for SVCD, if an SVCD TS is already out CTP should label there releases a *Proper*. they shouldnt be immune to scene rules

quote:

well, i dont know what to say, is it cos u want divx reencodes of ctp releases, but they dont release them as early as other groups or what?




I dont quite understand and your logic on divx re-encodes since no GROUP releases them just re-encode groups...and if that was supposed to be some sort of flame against someone it didnt really work, because you dont know what the hell your talking about

quote:
i mean really think about it, most people prefer quality (i know i do) so u`d get the best version u can befor a dvd release is out.which is ctp. just deal with it.


Screener, DVD Screener, Telecine?

give me a break man, I would take any non-cammed version over a centropy release....maybe not in the old days of centropy but now. I can barely stand the angle, and plus Screeners, TC's dont have the brightness problem normally


Posted by Wheely on 06-20-2003 03:58 AM:

Thumbs up

I agree, much better than loGisTics.

8/8

Thanks again CTP..


Posted by CrazY4MoVyZ on 06-20-2003 07:36 AM:

very good, just saw it. gj ctp, still, next time lable it right. OBEY!!

9/9/7


Posted by vcdking on 06-20-2003 12:37 PM:

good 7/7/7


Posted by psyche on 06-21-2003 12:23 AM:

Are you guys kidding me? CTP's last 3 releases have stunk including this release. CD1 looks damn good but when you pop in CD2 it's horrific! Dark, Red, Grainy!!! Sound is always top notch though 5/8/8, Seriously ppl... stop being fanboys and rate properly. I saw the same voting method with CTP's How to lose a guy in 10 days vs. DiAMOND's PROPER. How can a 2-pass 3CD x 74 minute get an extremely higher score than a 5-pass 2CD x 80 minute, it's not only about the bitrate ya know, motion compensation is in the amount of passes.


Posted by Rezneck on 06-21-2003 09:52 AM:

damn fine release

8/8/6


Posted by lifebringer on 06-21-2003 03:40 PM:

good enough, 8/7/6. if this was christmastime video would be a 7 but it's summer and releases are shitty so it's an 8. sound coulda been better centropy, but whatever.


Posted by Kalpz on 06-21-2003 05:05 PM:

hasnt anybody said anything about the scene where the screen goes green? for about 3 seconds, other than that nice release


Posted by bryehn on 06-21-2003 05:34 PM:

not quite up to par with recent, but good none the less...

should be labeled internal, imo...def. not proper...

logistics was fine aside from 3 discs...

6/8/7

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Posted by Tweezer on 06-21-2003 09:08 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Kalpz
hasnt anybody said anything about the scene where the screen goes green? for about 3 seconds, other than that nice release


yeah i just watched the whole movie last night, came on here to post about that....For about 5-6 seconds on the first disk the screen just completely morphs to green, cant see a thing....and if i remember correctly audio goes out


Posted by drMabuse on 06-21-2003 10:09 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Tweezer


yeah i just watched the whole movie last night, came on here to post about that....For about 5-6 seconds on the first disk the screen just completely morphs to green, cant see a thing....and if i remember correctly audio goes out



Not to mention a chunk missing between cd1+2 on the three downloads tried so far


Posted by Phr3d on 06-22-2003 08:09 AM:

Red face

7/6/6

Saw no green, just an encode breakup that could be the fault of the player. No chunk missing on mine, the opposite - there is (properly) a 10 second overlap from disc 2 disc. Sound was normalized at 20 over normal, prolley in response to the echo whiners. The normalize added distortion, but not too bad.

Camming was above average, but barely. WAY bloom on colors, oversaturated in post/encode, or from cheap cam (I'd guess the cam, because of the moderate parallax from the lens on it = cheap lens).

On a side note, and on the off chance that someone actually reads this far: Dear scene, can we PLEASE get back to 790-810K KB bins? You that push to get that extra 2.3% of bitrate are shutting out a LOT of people that have very fine old SCSI burners that they NEED for other purposes. These folks don't need a NEW burner if we could just get back to 800K KB bins again. In my case, I'd appreciate being able to burn cams(TS, whatever, it's ALL parallax city) to a CD-RW. There is no possible way I'd watch one of these twice, and why waste the plastic/create the garbage for a lousy 2.3%. Didn't intend a rant or a whine but...

anyway, decent rls - go state...


Posted by nitemare on 06-22-2003 02:38 PM:

7/8/1

picture and sound were fine. very nice job! movie itself was AWEFUL! Harrilson Ford should be embarrassed to star in this one. Horrible storyline, horrible action, everything was bad..even the jokes. stay far away!!


Posted by BoOsTzex on 07-02-2003 08:45 AM:

mehh...I was expecting more, after reading the posts, and seeing the rateings(quality wise) but it is a ctp release and everyone kisses thier butts, so you cant really make a decision untill u watch it yourself...movie was entertaining, not worthey of a visit to the theater, thats forsure. 5/6/4


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