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Posted by MovieGod on 11-11-2002 02:26 AM:

Yes this is it, Official Lord of the Rings 2:The Two Towers Movie Review

Read No further:

As much I wanted to wait for this to post, I said heck, here it is.

Director Peter Jackson brings his second of his epic trilogy to the big screen as Lord of the Rings:The Two Towers is errected for all to see.

The continuing adventure follows Frodo Baggins (Elijah Wood) and the fellowship as they destroyed theone Ring and stand against the evil of the Dark Lord Sauron (Christopher Lee).

The Fellowship has gone on differnt paths as they all strive to defeart Sauron and his allies.

Their fates lie at the two towers Orthanc Tower in Isengard, where the corrupted wizard Saruman awaits and Sauron's fortress at Barad-dur where the battle of good and evil reaches definite epic proportions.

Like the first film, The Two Tower is long and yes, the ending is like the first, you have another year to wait for Part 3.

At time I saw this, there was no official rating, but the violence and special effects are still the same as The Fellowship of The Ring.

Oscar wise, this film should generate some oscar buzz, but not as much as the original.

My rating: 9.5 out of 10. Enjoy.

Release Date (Theatres) December 18th.

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Posted by Mystic Slippers on 11-11-2002 03:05 AM:

MG. You are a scholar. A Gentleman. A true craftsman.

Thankyou.

Posted by EaBa on 11-11-2002 03:12 AM:

Finally, thank you MG! I have been waiting forever for this. Can't wait till this comes out. I just hope that a pre doesn't come out so that I am tempted to watch it before opening day on the Big Screen. But a DVD-screener after opening day would be much appreciated

Posted by DCBastard on 11-11-2002 03:44 AM:

Christopher Lee is Saruman, not Sauron

Posted by Starscreamer on 11-11-2002 04:14 AM:

Holy shit dude!? How in the hell did you get to see that already!? I did however notice that Harry over at AICN had seen it already also, so they just must of kept those critic screenings quiet.

In any case, when'd ya see it dude!? And thanx for the review, I knew this would be great!

Posted by MovieGod on 11-11-2002 07:28 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Starscreamer
Holy shit dude!? How in the hell did you get to see that already!? I did however notice that Harry over at AICN had seen it already also, so they just must of kept those critic screenings quiet.

In any case, when'd ya see it dude!? And thanx for the review, I knew this would be great!

I have a friend who takes care of the late George Harrison's Ranch on the island of Maui, thats how I saw this one.

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Posted by Nealo on 11-11-2002 08:33 AM:

THANKS MAN nice review i really wanna see this bad

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Posted by Dwaggy on 11-11-2002 09:46 AM:

/me ejaculates on thread

um.. sorry.. this has never happened to me before

Props to Moviegod

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Posted by dc_man on 11-11-2002 02:17 PM:

Yeah.

/me waits outside theatre till December.

Posted by MovieGod on 11-11-2002 10:22 PM:

I am glad I can bring joy to the masses.

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Posted by jedi420 on 11-11-2002 11:41 PM:

if its like the book than this one should be better than the 1st part.

Posted by crob on 11-11-2002 11:57 PM:

So that's a review? Erm.... Right. Okay... *cough*

Posted by bobbystill on 11-12-2002 06:54 AM:

So that's a review? Erm.... Right. Okay... *cough*

Posted by Ocyurus on 11-12-2002 08:07 AM:

Thanks for the great review MG! I am definitely going to be at the theatre waiting for them to unlock the door on December 18th. Then (If all goes according to plan) I can come back to my home and settle in and view the DVD screener which has been neatly prepared for me to view at my leisure . Thanks again MG!

(P.S. Just for the sake of it how did the Ents look? )

Posted by jedi420 on 11-12-2002 06:35 PM:

ocyurus dude i seen the ents in the preview and they look exactly how i imagined. hahah its kinda funny seeing the ent holding the hobbits.

Posted by Ocyurus on 11-12-2002 09:29 PM:

You mean the preview they played in theatres at the end of the Fellowship? I couldn't make it back again for it but I did download it, was really blocky and hard to see, I think I did catch a quick glimpse of and ents eye but I didn't notice a full shot. And in the new trailer I was able to spot pippin get picked up by an Ent who only the legs are shown of. If for no other reason than seeing Treebeard I know I am going to like the Two Towers (Oh and seeing Gandalf the White will be cool too)

Posted by jedi420 on 11-12-2002 10:31 PM:

dude not only that but i wanna see what shelob looks like.

Posted by EaBa on 11-12-2002 10:34 PM:

Yeah, it would be cool to see what the ents look like, but I can't wait to see the battle at Helm's Deep. That scene is going to rock big time.

Posted by DrxLecter on 11-12-2002 11:37 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by jedi420
dude not only that but i wanna see what shelob looks like.

shelob was moved to the ROTK movie because of time constraints

Posted by jedi420 on 11-12-2002 11:55 PM:

dude are u serious?? man thats kinda sux, but i still think this movie will be EXCELLENT.

Posted by Ha0s on 11-13-2002 09:52 PM:

juzus christ people ,, somebody should install a hidden camera on moviegod!
get somebody close to him and try to make them install it,
that way at least we would be watching a TTT now,,

Posted by lachris on 11-14-2002 04:51 PM:

Hello,

newbie here.

I am beyond being a fan of the trilogy.

For me nothing will match the Eowyns' fight in ROTK, then Gandalf and Aragorns charge in ROTK.

If Peter Jackson has stuck closely to the book again TTT will be amazing.

Posted by jedi420 on 11-14-2002 09:06 PM:

i think he did a pretty good job on FOTR so i really do think that TTT will be F*cking krayzie.

Posted by lachris on 11-14-2002 09:29 PM:

Quick Poll

My dad first read it to my brother, my sister and myself when I was 5.

At what age was everyone forst exposed to The Lord of The Rings trilogy?

I have read the entire trilogy every other year since I was ten.

Posted by MovieGod on 11-15-2002 01:33 AM:

Re: Quick Poll

Movie was great, it should get Oscar Consideration.

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Posted by Jackal_Guardian on 11-16-2002 11:20 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by lachris
Hello,

newbie here.

I am beyond being a fan of the trilogy.

For me nothing will match the Eowyns' fight in ROTK, then Gandalf and Aragorns charge in ROTK.

If Peter Jackson has stuck closely to the book again TTT will be amazing.

LOL your Nuts Peter Jackson is a kick ass Director and I don’t think no one could of done a better job. If Tokken was still alive he would be proud! Yes Peter Jackson did some weird things like kill Boromir off in Fellowship of the Ring when he is suppose to die in the first chapter of Two Towers but oh well stuff like that has to be done to make the movie good. Man at least Peter Jackson can direct and make the movie good unlike George Lucas and what he did to Episode 2 man he cant direct. That proves that writers should not direct movies because they turn out like crap! :P

Posted by MovieGod on 11-16-2002 09:19 PM:

Yes I agree, George Lucas unfortunately had ruined his own "vision" of Episode 2, don't get me wrong, i like the movie, just the "vision" leading to the showdown of Episode 3, The Clone Wars was all wrong.

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Posted by lorddusty on 11-17-2002 02:52 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jackal_Guardian
Man at least Peter Jackson can direct and make the movie good unlike George Lucas and what he did to Episode 2 man he cant direct. That proves that writers should not direct movies because they turn out like crap! :P

Totally agree with you, ever since the first three SW's George's eye's have been set on one thing, and one thing only: Money. His sell out is so obvious in his marketing of toys, books, video games, t-shirts etc that he blankets kids with. I just wish Joseph Campbell were still around as I imagine he'd knock some sense into Lucas for forgetting the loyal SW fan base that used to stand in line for days for tickets to the shows, and forgetting what made his movies so special in the first place.

Posted by darkslide on 11-17-2002 03:01 AM:

Re: Re: Quick Poll

quote:
Originally posted by MovieGod
Movie was great, it should get Oscar Consideration.

it will.... it'll win a bunch of oscars.. and a shitload of nominations...

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Posted by PhreakerX on 11-18-2002 02:56 AM:

this has to be one of the best movies I have ever seen... I cannot WAIT for ROTK
if all of you dont go opening night, ill kill you
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Posted by MovieGod on 11-18-2002 03:04 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by PhreakerX
this has to be one of the best movies I have ever seen... I cannot WAIT for ROTK
if all of you dont go opening night, ill kill you
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Alrighty, and yes the movie was quite awesome, the first 25 minutes if worth the price of admission alone.

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Posted by Ouroboros on 11-20-2002 08:42 PM:

Re: Yes this is it, Official Lord of the Rings 2:The Two Towers Movie Review

quote:

Their fates lie at the two towers Orthanc Tower in Isengard, where the corrupted wizard Saruman awaits and Sauron's fortress at Barad-dur where the battle of good and evil reaches definite epic proportions.

The Two Towers of the title are Isengard (Orthanc) and either Minas Tirith (the white tower of Gondor) or Cirith Ungol, not Barad-dûr. No-one goes near Barard-dûr as it would be suicide, especially whilst carrying the ring.

Posted by bobbystill on 11-21-2002 08:53 AM:

not to change the subject AGAIN
but Grorge luscas is cool
EP II was great!
It makes alot of money because it IS great.
Personally i dont have or have not seen the dvd, but i do have a 3 disc svcd ,however, there is no extra scene showing vader slaughtering sand people; if there was, it would have been, in my opinion, a masterpiece like EMPIRE!

eposide II did have for me a few bouts of dad directing tho, like having vader just fall asleep after his arm got sawed off LIKE IT WOULD BE THAT EASY, shock or some thing I guess, thoes two subtractions make me feel like Lucas is gearing the film a bit more than necassary to a younger audience, whick sucks.

quote:
just the "vision" leading to the showdown of Episode 3

showdown between WHO?

this is the only thing i found regarding a script http://1starwars.4t.com/Star%20Wars%20Episode%20III.htm

I do think ttt will be one hell of a film, i cant wait a month! I wish Tom Balmbadi...... would have made it to the extended version, any1 kown if he or his wife or thoes trees did?

Posted by Starscreamer on 11-21-2002 10:28 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by bobbystill
showdown between WHO?

Heh...and you call yourself a Star Wars fan? Well, I'm assumeing you're a Star Wars fan, heh!!! In any case...

The showdown that's comming is between Vader (Anakin) and Obi Wan.....remember in Episode IV, when Vader and Ben meet in the Death Star, and Vader says:

"Last time we met, I was but a learner, now I AM the master"?

Obviously Anakin and Obi Wan get into it after Anakin kills off most of the Jedi.

(I have to say this, one of the coolest lines in Ep2 was Obi Wan saying to Anakin:

"You're going to be the death of me!"

I just thought that was sweet...)

What I'm wondering is, will the Emperor sling some light in this last film?

Sorry for running off topic there, couldn't resist....

Posted by billymcq2 on 11-21-2002 10:56 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Starscreamer

Obviously Anakin and Obi Wan get into it after Anakin kills off most of the Jedi.

If you noticed, most of them died at the end of Episode II.

I've got this feeling that Episode III is gonna be a huge pile of cack. There's a lot to get through before the start of EpIV. Nevermind, I'll still be there to see it opening night!

Billy

Posted by Starscreamer on 11-21-2002 11:26 AM:

I hear ya bro! I'm thinkin this one will either be the best one out of all, or the worst....too soon to tell.

Yea, I noticed some of um died on Geonosis, but surely there's got to be many many more than just 20 or so.

Posted by eliteRaider on 11-21-2002 06:19 PM:

Quality of TTT?

When the movie is released, does anyone know what type of quality it will be? Like last year for the FOTR an amazing svcd verson was released...will it be the same for this year?

Posted by Starscreamer on 11-21-2002 07:52 PM:

I ah...wtf dude, you think we got a crystal ball or somthing, heh! How would we know the quality of a release that hasn't been rls'd yet?

Oh wait....it's coming to me now! It's going to be, it's going to be.....

Posted by jedi420 on 11-21-2002 08:28 PM:

dude im a huge starwars fan also, but was i the only one dissapointed with EP2? i mean the last 20 minutes was cool, but thats about it.

Posted by Ocyurus on 11-23-2002 01:14 AM:

Re: Re: Yes this is it, Official Lord of the Rings 2:The Two Towers Movie Review

quote:
Originally posted by Ouroboros

The Two Towers of the title are Isengard (Orthanc) and either Minas Tirith (the white tower of Gondor) or Cirith Ungol, not Barad-dûr. No-one goes near Barard-dûr as it would be suicide, especially whilst carrying the ring.

I have read the books and even in the trailer Click here for The Two Towers Trailer and as far as I can see The Two Towers mainly concerns Aragorn, Pippin, Merry, Legolas, Gimli and Gandalf's adventures after the breaking of the fellowship save for Frodo and Sam's meet with Shelob (which will not be included in the movie but instead in The Return of the King). And as such it confronts the assaults of Sauron from his stronghold in Barad-dûr, and the attacks upon Rohan by Saruman from Orthanc in Isengard. Plus considering Cirith Ungol is not a tower or building for that matter but more of a passage through the mountains of shadow into Mordor, of course you may have it confused with Minas Morgul. If I am at fault on this please correct me.

Posted by Ouroboros on 11-23-2002 11:37 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Yes this is it, Official Lord of the Rings 2:The Two Towers Movie Review

quote:
Originally posted by Ocyurus

I have read the books and even in the trailer Click here for The Two Towers Trailer and as far as I can see The Two Towers mainly concerns Aragorn, Pippin, Merry, Legolas, Gimli and Gandalf's adventures after the breaking of the fellowship save for Frodo and Sam's meet with Shelob (which will not be included in the movie but instead in The Return of the King). And as such it confronts the assaults of Sauron from his stronghold in Barad-dûr, and the attacks upon Rohan by Saruman from Orthanc in Isengard. Plus considering Cirith Ungol is not a tower or building for that matter but more of a passage through the mountains of shadow into Mordor, of course you may have it confused with Minas Morgul. If I am at fault on this please correct me.

I got Cirith Ungol from here :

http://members.cts.com/king/e/erikt/tolkien/2towers.htm

The link contains extracts from letters written by Tolkein discussing which towers are two mentioned in the title.

On the cover of my copy of The Two Towers there is an illustration that appears to be Orthanc and Minas Morgul as is mentioned in the above link. From reading the extracts again it would appear that the Tower of Cirith Ungol that is mentioned is the tower Sam and Frodo come across after passing through Shelob's lair.

quote:
Originally posted by DrxLecter
shelob was moved to the ROTK movie because of time constraints

If this is correct they might have to use a different tower in the film as they won't reach Cirith Ungol until ROTK. Most likely Minas Morgul so that the title refers to the journeys of the two factions of the fellowship.

I was pointing out that this :

quote:
Originally posted by MovieGod
Their fates lie at the two towers Orthanc Tower in Isengard, where the corrupted wizard Saruman awaits and Sauron's fortress at Barad-dur where the battle of good and evil reaches definite epic proportions.

is not true as no goes anywhere near Barad-dûr.

Posted by Fishead on 11-23-2002 10:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jackal_Guardian

Yes Peter Jackson did some weird things like kill Boromir off in Fellowship of the Ring when he is suppose to die in the first chapter of Two Towers but oh well stuff like that has to be done to make the movie good! :P

As long as I remember that is where Boromir dies in the book.Trying to save Merry & Pippen from the orcs that show up right after Boromir tries to take ring from Frodo.I don't think that part of story was changed.

Posted by Ouroboros on 11-24-2002 12:25 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Fishead

As long as I remember that is where Boromir dies in the book.Trying to save Merry & Pippen from the orcs that show up right after Boromir tries to take ring from Frodo.I don't think that part of story was changed.

That's correct. He was killed in the FOTR book, not TTT.

Posted by Ocyurus on 11-24-2002 06:00 PM:

It is correct that Boromir fell in the first chapter of the second book the Two Towers.

The Two Towers Book III Chapter 1, The Departure of Boromir

quote:
'The horn of Boromir!' he cried. 'He is in need!' He sprang down the steps and away, leaping down the path. 'Alas! An ill fate is on me this day, and all that I do goes amiss. Where is Sam?'
As he ran the cries came louder, but fainter now and desperately the horn was blowing. Fierce and shrill rose the yells of the Orcs, and suddenly the horn-calls ceased. Aragorn raced down the last slope, but before he could reach the hill's foot, the sounds died away; and as he turned to the left and ran towards them they retreated, until at last he could hear them no more. Drawing his bright sword and crying Elendil! Elendil! he crashed through the trees.
A mile, maybe, from Parth Galen in a little glade not far from the lake he found Boromir. He was sitting with his back to a great tree, as if he was resting. But Aragorn saw that he was pierced with many black-feathered arrows; his sword was still in his hand, but it was broken near the hilt; his horn cloven in two was at his side. Many Orcs lay slain, piled all about him and at his feet.
Aragorn knelt beside him. Boromir opened his eyes and strove to speak. At last slow words came. 'I tried to take the Ring from Frodo ' he said. 'I am sorry. I have paid.' His glance strayed to his fallen enemies; twenty at least lay there. 'They have gone: the Halflings: the Orcs have taken them. I think they are not dead. Orcs bound them.' He paused and his eyes closed wearily. After a moment he spoke again.
'Farewell, Aragorn! Go to Minas Tirith and save my people! I have failed.'
'No!' said Aragorn, taking his hand and kissing his brow. 'You have conquered. Few have gained such a victory. Be at peace! Minas Tirith shall not fall!'

Posted by Fishead on 11-25-2002 02:10 AM:

I think the point was that the poster said he was killed off early in movie .To me it seemed like where it was suppose to happen.What they didn't do was follow the time line of the movie as it relates to the books.They left to much out of Fellowship (Tom Bombadil) and changed story completely for Arwen (Liv Tyler)which has no basis in the books at all.
If i misinterpeted what poster was saying i'm sorry .

Posted by JezPX on 11-27-2002 12:02 AM:

@ Moviegod...........you lucky bugger...........seeing this movie so far ahead of us normal members........and yes I believe you when you say you are a Movie Reviewer...

Regards,

Jez

Posted by diilbert on 12-03-2002 01:00 PM:

After watching the trailer repeatedly (and no I am not obessed) I would not expect anything else. And besides is there really a perfect movie out there (Deserves a 10)

Posted by Corrado on 12-03-2002 04:58 PM:

I dont think that Moviegod actually views the movies personally as there had only been a single screening and a single copy of the film when this "review" was released (and that was a cast screening too"...but i doubt my opinion matters anyway.

For those who want a proper review... http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=13950

Posted by PhreakerX on 12-03-2002 09:36 PM:

you are about to be flamed. Moviegod left because of fuckers like you.

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Posted by Corrado on 12-04-2002 05:26 PM:

why? because i voice my opinion? dont like it...just ignore it...

Posted by Ocyurus on 12-04-2002 07:20 PM:

Moviegod left?

Posted by Crazy_Jay on 12-05-2002 12:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Corrado
why? because i voice my opinion? dont like it...just ignore it...

Posted by Qramohn on 12-05-2002 04:37 PM:

Not much of a review.
I guess you can save this "review" for the next year and reuse it... Just replace "The Two Towers" with "The return of the king"....

Posted by darkslide on 12-07-2002 11:20 PM:

if they followed the actual timeline of the books, there would be no point, it'd be uninteresting to fans...

kinda like the X-Men movie..

would you want to resee the same shit over and over... between your imagination, a book/comic, and a movie... no you'd wanna see different interpretations of it for everything you see.

Week and a Half away =-o

if a pre is coming out... should be out soon ^_^

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Posted by ]|v|[igrai|\|eZ on 12-10-2002 03:54 PM:

drum roll, please

Dibs on the first TCF TS! And for that matter, dibs on the screeners, too.

Posted by jedi420 on 12-10-2002 09:44 PM:

man i cant believe what i been hearing lately. ppl saying that this movies isnt gonna be good. what do u guys think? u guys think it'll still kick ass?

Posted by Ocyurus on 12-10-2002 10:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by jedi420
man i cant believe what i been hearing lately. ppl saying that this movies isnt gonna be good. what do u guys think? u guys think it'll still kick ass?

Hell Yea!

Posted by Dwaggy on 12-10-2002 11:14 PM:

fuck people, i'll see/judge it by myself

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Posted by Mannys on 12-11-2002 04:28 PM:

I just saw the trailer of the movie, and it looks good. I can't wait to see it in theaters!

Posted by cccmmm on 12-13-2002 08:07 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Corrado
[B]I dont think that Moviegod actually views the movies personally as there had only been a single screening and a single copy of the film when this "review" was released (and that was a cast screening too"...but i doubt my opinion matters anyway.

i remember back in the day when this discussion began. cut it out man, don't ever wanna see that whole blow up again about mg.

quote:
Originally posted by PhreakerX
you are about to be flamed. Moviegod left because of fuckers like you.

ya, it was fuckers like me and corrado, but just remember that no one made him leave. he chose to leave because he didn't like some opinions. yes, it was probably rude to say those opinions, but i thought the topic was worth stepping out on a limb over.

Posted by bobbystill on 12-13-2002 09:22 AM:

hungry wolf
last piece of rare meat

Posted by bobbystill on 12-18-2002 09:05 AM:

WTF
gollum looks stupid
Im getting tired of cgi charecters
They dont look right

Posted by devilbeast on 12-19-2002 02:37 PM:

When i saw this yday at the theatre, i was slightly dissapointed but it was definately good, but i think it could have been better. Was a great movie though definately go see it if you can youll love it but make sure you have watched the first one before trying to go seee this one cause some guy there ddnt see the first one and it didnt make any sense to him ...he was prettys tupid but any way go see it , was good just not quite as good as i had hoped.

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