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Robots.TC.SVCD-TUN

3 weeks out and we have a brilliant telecine
9/9 on sample
tun/meteor are on a roll
ill wait for the dvd dont think itll be long

from sample: very nice release. video is very nice, so is audio.

8/9/?

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Picture is a bit shaky in the sample , audio is great tho

7/9/6

Not one of TUN's best telecine's. Since when do TELECiNE screen's shake ? I can understand a bit of movement but this is really bad. Nice audio , this is clear but the shaking is very annoying. Colors are good , AR is good , clear , sounds great ... shaking is too annoying for me.

6/9/?

STN - wont go there

SAOSiN - excellent picture , bit of dark flickering, hiss in audio

NBP - very blurry , excellent audio

TUN - good picture , good sound , non stop shaking screen

SAOSiN , NBP , TUN all have flaws ... but hey its free

from sample excellent picture and sound,
screen's shake part of the film on the sample.

keep up the good work tun.

From the sample the shaking isn't *that* bad, but it's definitaly noticeable. In the end of the sample, the sound seems to have a slight reverb.

V=8 (for the slight shaking, colors are really nice)
A=8 (there's a slight reverb at the end of the sample)
M=? (haven't seen it and not going to)

Saosins picture with this audio is the way to go with this movie.

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There is nothing wrong with this release, the only reason why its shaking is becuase that was the way it was filmed, if you had better speakers with a subwoofer you would hear the rumbling of the robot about to fart and the screen shaking at the same time. its the way it was made.

Video 9.0

Audio 9.0

Movie 7.0

I Would say something else for the people that can't rate and judge correctly on this film, but i dont flame users, as per the rules, but you know what i would say about ya.

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same here. cant see any probs with this one. SAOSINS was a great telesync (which we are really greatfull for) but this has got the edge. Nice work boys and Keep it up!!!

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Ditto to the above 2 posts.This from sample seems flawless.

We are all being spoiled latley.

9/9/9

I see no reason to d/l, save ur bandwith.
SAOSiN is good enough if you got it. If not, then pick this one, since the slight hiss is gone

Audio: 8
Video: 8
Movie: 9

By far the best rel so far. Hope Meteor whack it on a dvd for us.
Certainly not the best TC from TUN but pretty damn good none the less.
Vid: 8.5
Aud: 9.0
Movie: 7.0 (Not as good as I thought it was gonna be)

nothing wrong with it.


9/9

double post

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Originally posted by Avenue_1
Goin by the sample , it is one shaky muthafucka. The bit where its the day after the lamppost thing falls and dies, you can see just how shaky the picture is, maybe it wont be as bad on a telly screen.

7/10/?

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since when does a telecine get a worse rating than a telesync cam vs digitally copied from a reel makes no sense to me

::EDIT:: In that case, you don't understand the rating system. Compare like-for-like. The TS was excellent (for a TS) whereas this is a "decent" TC, see? - Neversoft::

Thumbs up to TUN on this one SAOSiN had the excellent TS but this is the one i'll be watching. 9.0/9.0/Yet To Have Watched.

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Originally posted by Avenue_1
Im not talking about the bit at the start of the sample where the whole screen purposely shakes u dick, its obvious the screen is meant to shake, if you actually READ my post you will see what i am talking about.
Now , i'm not going to flame you, but actually VIEW a release before commenting.

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Originally posted by Avenue_1
Im not talking about the bit at the start of the sample where the whole screen purposely shakes u dick, its obvious the screen is meant to shake, if you actually READ my post you will see what i am talking about.
Now , i'm not going to flame you, but actually VIEW a release before commenting.

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Indeed there is some minor shakiness to this release. Watch the opening credits as its easier to notice with the stationary writing on the screen. IMO not a big fucking deal and this is still the best available release to date.

8/9/7

after watching the saosin release and viewing the sample of this release i can see the shaking that some others posted, its not a horrible shake however it is noticeable..maybe its just my eyes though.

as for the release

V:8 the shaking knocked a point off imo
A:10 no problems in the sample seems prefect to me
M:9 loved it

props to TUN on the quickness though

even though some bitch we still love ya

I dunno how they make these TC's but it looks like the little V axis wobble you get from a loose gate (is it called a gate?) on a projector.

i know what a TC is but if anyones got any info on how they are made i would be intrested.

Anyways, Yes this is a pucker print of robots and will deffo do me till the DVD (retail) or even DVD (screener) lands on the scene.

Well done Tun, keep up the good work guys, take no notice of these no life bitter moaners.
keep em comming 99% of us out here Like what youve done with this movie.

Specs of this TC are:
Stream type: MPEG-2 MP@ML VBR
Resolution: 480*576
Aspect ratio: 4:3 Generic
Framerate: 25.00
Nom. bitrate: 2450000 Bit/Sec
VBV buffer size: 56
Constrained param. flag: No
Chroma format: 4:2:0
DCT precision: 8
Pic. structure: Frame
Field topfirst: No
DCT type: Frame
Quantscale: Nonlinear
Scan type: ZigZag
Frame type: Progressive
Scene change detection: FOUND
Variable GOP pattern: FOUND


Dont worry i done a google and found out the info lol

Example 1 the old days (add Group name here)
http://www.moviestuff.tv/c20_small.jpg

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http://www.rushes.co.uk/tech/c_reality.jpg

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Video is real clean there is a bit of a shake, watched it on the TV didn't really notice the shake. Sound is clear crisp. Movie was Great

8/8/8

its a good release but yet the video has glitches in it, it pixalizes sometimes, but the color is good, and so is the audio

8/7/8

Good Job, No Complaints TUN...thanks for this release, nice audio and video...

9/9/?

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I watched half of this movie and i can hear different language subs in queit scenes annoying echos

8/5/9

From the sample it is a little upsetting there is a vertical-hold problem or something that does create jittering.
It's not horrible but it is noticeable and is capable of detracting from the movie, which is a shame because besides the vertical shaking the picture is brilliant and the sound is awesome.

It's minor but still happens a bit too often for my taste.
damn shame because the quality is brilliant.

V: 6.5 (as in motion of video + picture quality. Picture quality is definitely a 9+)
A: 9
M: 8.5 (Ice Age quality obviously... simple, effective humor. Some juvenile, some witty adult. Good mix)

Still going to stick with Saosin w/Fixed Audio.

what u chatting about

There is a VERY VERY SLIGHT shake, and i mean slight. Its unnoitceable unless you sit there looking for it.

9/10/?

video is spot on. one issue with the audio, it appears to be an overlay. it is in english, but there is a french background to it! hope im not the first to post this...
video 9.0
audio 5.0
movie 5.0

I remember back in the days everyone hated and slagged off TUN.

Now look everyone is licking there ass hehe.

Anyway TUN keep up the great work on releasing the fast TC's

7/9/8

watched on a stand alone with the kids, looked good to me slight wobble if i got within 1ft of the tv but sitting 6ft away looked excellent


video-8.5
audio-9
movie- kids loved it

personally I don't see why the low ratings on the picture quality, definatley typical high quality TC quality aswell as the sound

9/9/x

picture is good but not the best of tuns work and its also a little dark in places
sound is good no problems
movie is also good

7/8/7

this shaking people are talking about is very minor, on tv you cannot see it at all... or i couldnt anyway it must be really minor...

...and what a fantastic release so fast

however i can confirm echos i guess its audio overlay, especially cd 1 just after the sample ends... the background music sounds like its playing twice

but props to TUN for such a fast and good release

8/7/8 movie rocks!

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Nice and clean picture, this is a great release. The colors are right on and the sound is awesome. There is nothing much else to say but grab this and wait for the DVDr to come out.

V-9
A-9
M-9

watched the whole thing yesterday would say a deffo 9/9/9

top rls guys

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Originally posted by Engie*Benjy
i have only watched the sample so really should post yet, i will edit this if when i watch the full version my opinion changes...

this shaking people are talking about i just cannot see... it must be really minor...

...and what a fantastic release so fast ...great colours and sound, TUN are really spoiling us if u ask me!

but keep it up

8/9/? from sample

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Originally posted by Da Postman
Nice and clean picture, this is a great release. The colors are right on and the sound is awesome. There is nothing much else to say but grab this and wait for the DVDr to come out.

V-9
A-9
M-9

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Robots.TC.SVCD-TUN

another excellent tc from tun keep em coming guys.
watched full release on standalone and didnt notice any shaking.
sample sometimes dosnt tell you a lot about quality of a release.
vid.9
audio. 9
movie.7
tun are now the #1 group in my opinion wish theyd find a copy of be cool been waitin ages for that one.
thanx to all the groups out there for their efforts keep at it this is what can be acheived with patience and dedication these guys used to get flamed for poor cams now theyre respected by all.

the video is very watchable. not bad.

the audio is pretty annoying though, as there appears to be audio remnants in another language. its very apparent. there are moments in the movie where there is no english audio, but the other language is there.

it gets to be very annoying when you notice its there. not to mention the extra language is echoey.

V- 8.5
A- 6
M- 8

V - 8 (view'd a few minutes)
A - 9 (view'd a few minutes)
M - 8 (view'd a few minutes)

Strange... SAOSIN did a good job on this already, can't understand y not dedicate ur time and bandwidth on something else...ummm... like... Be Cool!
I know we are not supposed to request here... but can I request one of those high power CAMs or a telecine dupe thingy so I can go to a matinee and....?

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8/9

nice release minus the noise

thanks tun

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Very nice indeed, the sound echo kinda sucked but no big deal.

The shaking was not visible on my tv.

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Those giving this 9s and 10s for audio should try watching (and listening) this b4 voting.
Audio has very annoying echos in alot of scenes, (specialy noticable if you like your sound loud on a home cinema set up) wobble isnt a big issue really but its there all the same. the audio certainly isnt a 9 or 10
Nice release but does have some small issues.

Ratting as a TC 7.5/7/5

Robots TC *Shake My Ass*

The TC is not shakey in anyway if viewed in Windows Media Player but open it in Winamp & the shakeyness begins so its probably the app your using

Audio = 9/10
Video = 9/10
Movie = 9/10

This will run nice when all pressed up...

absolutely great
9/9/9

The shake is not that bad at all. Once you burn it and watch on your TV you will forget all about it. The sound is a bit wierd in places, but overall this is a great release! Far and away the sexiest version out so far.

Video: 9
Sound: 8
Movie: meh

Shaking

I simply must ask, if the shaking your talking about is the sample, because if it is so, then hear the sound, the robots ar farting and the picture is suppose to shake, seems to me that the movie is perfict.

There is a Fix for the annoying sound just posted to usenet if any1 is interested. This is from the NFO..

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****ROBOTS*** SVCD TELECINE TUN **FIXED AUDIO BY ADYWAN**
A lot of people (including myself) have been complaining about the strange audio of TUN's ROBOTS TELECINE SVCD. The audio has a very strange echo and a background foreign language track which is quite audible and bloody annoying especially on cd2. After checking the original audio it seems that TUN source was a foriegn 5.1 audio track. they have removed the center channel and replaced it with NBP's PROPER SVCD audio track (you can tell by the slight background buzz). They haven't synced NBP's audio with their own source which gives the echo effect. Problem was that the foreign dialogue still existed in the stereo channels in a lot of the scenes.
OK, i've babbled on too much now but had to explain why i have redone the audio
I have managed to remove the most of the echo and there is no more foreign dialogue from what i can tell.
Just use TMPGenc to remux the audio back into the 2 cds. not too sure how you remake the svcd disk so hopefully someone can help with this.
if someone remakes this into svcd with this audio and repost it for everyone then feel free, just please give me a mention as this has taken me ages to do
hope you enjoy it
****ADYWAN****

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GOES TO SHOW AGAIN THAT YOU CAN'T TELL ANYTHING FROM A SAMPLE.

Why I take any notice of people who haven't watched the film all the way through I will never know but I did it again. Idiot.

How can anyone give the audio on this over a 6? It is annoying as hell. The echoing mixed language audio is that bad in parts that you can't even here what's being said. Tried turning off the surround sound and adjusting my volume settings and still couldn't get it any better. Still not as annoying as the saosin release though.

video 9 sound 9 movie? you people who say this is shaking ive watched about 3 different parts of this movie and its beautifully done no shaking whatsoever this blows the other releases away hands down

9/3/8

Video : great , I didnt notice the shake a bit really.

Sound: should be nuke for this IMO. Has an echo of another sound track and really sounds bad on a good TV w/ good sound system. (My 52" surround sound TV made it unwatchable)

Movie: was pretty good

Thanks for the release even though it played a couple sound tracks at the same time


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As ANNO said audio fix worked great only did it on cd2 cd1 was ok until last couple of mins.
Watched on standalone must say didnt really notice any shake maybe my eyes (old git)

best release out .. easily. This will def do until retail DVD comes out. Must just be the sample that is shaky because the feature is right on the $$$. GREAT JOB TUN!

V-9
A-9
M-8

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Funny to think this never got nuked even after the dodgy audio and the fact that it is stolen lol.

what release should it be stolen from ?

if you are referring to the other xvid that is out then i must tell you that that group release fake telecines or steal them from other. TUN are capping their own telecines that should be shown by their amount of telecine releases so its properly the other groups who stole from them!

NBPs audio, and it would be tough for them to have stolen TUNs audio as they released 1st, but coincidently just hours after NBPs release TUN released their TC with the messed up audio (waiting for some decent audio for their TC my guess) But if you overlay the audio track of TUNs onto NBPs then you will find they both have the same pitch and frequency which more than sugests they are the same and as Adywan discovered after cleaning up the TUN audio channels, you can quite destinctly hear the same background buzz.

perhaps they work together and share audio ? since dts2 is out audio is hard to get oh well i still like the release =) dont care where the sound came from

very dark, tried to brighten it a little, but still a tad too dark. Audio is understandable but on some scenes the background music in the film, completely mutes the voices...overall nice cam...but will definitely be looking for a good telesync...watched the complete cd1. Movie is actually good. Willl watch the rest later...

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After watching both disks dident notice shaking still minor if any but the sound is def not 9 strange russian echo makes the bots seem evil oh well 9/6/5.... still say tun is killin um latley

great copy

9/9/2 - not my type of film

Back on the scene

it has been a while since ive had the connect to be back, i doubt any one will read this, but if ths is a TC, then saosin isnt much worse with TS and their TC's any one rating this a 8 or 9 hasnt seen a real tc this may be but not a 8 or 9 thats almost dvd quality and this is still not as crisp and a little hazy not to be mistaken for blurry because its a good copy no gripes, but with all the sick fantastic TS's which im sure have been nonnuked TC's once in a while... ps the sound is wierd but works, it goes low then ok, but its good enuff (7/6/?)