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Posted by Mystic Slippe on 02-12-2003 03:26 PM:

For a TS, the audio doesn't seem better than the UTi rls. The pic is a lot better due to no subs, it's a little more on the dark side, but mebbe thats just the sample.

Anyway:

6/4/2

UPDATE: OMFG DOES THIS MOVIE SUCK!

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Posted by mib on 02-12-2003 03:27 PM:

did watch the sample aswell.. think ill wait for a nice screener or something on a cool movie like this =)

Posted by looncorleone on 02-12-2003 03:28 PM:

This Movie Rocks

just watched the sample here on my l33t connection is ok for a CAM couldnt get any better so worth the download if u really must see is watchable...sound was a lil on the hollow side like if they recorded this in a restroom it had that echo effect......in all i rate this movie a 7 on video and 5 on audio!!!

Posted by on 02-12-2003 03:32 PM:

way to go esoteric

i am dl this now, since i am at work usin remote admin i cant view the sample, and its to early to see any jpegs, i give mad props to both uti and esoteric for releasing this so fast, but as we all know speed over quality never wins, i hope this is a nice TS, if not oh well, i guess we all know we can always wait for a CTP release or the dvd screener. But for those of us who dont bitch and whine about dl'in movies even if there crap, I am gonna take a shot at it.

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Posted by bmvtoys on 02-12-2003 03:32 PM:

Not too bad. Much better than the last release it seems (lookin at cd1). Audio isnt as sharp, but it's close. Pic is a bit darker, but not a lot. 6/5/-

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Posted by anticrom69 on 02-12-2003 03:32 PM:

Watched sample and it is better than the uti especially bcs no subs...I'd say Its very watchable, but we can hopefully look forward to a CTP rls =)

6/5/?

Posted by RickySway on 02-12-2003 03:42 PM:

See now that's what I like. Days, not weeks between new releases.

i'm just hoping that within a few days i'll be seeing a nice screener or better: predvd ?
but I don't get my hopes up.

great release though.
Sound isn't that much better then the CAM, but the video is. Bit to dark but that's nothing I can't handle with enhancing my overlay.

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Posted by MediaRipper on 02-12-2003 03:43 PM:

One word:SILVER
Two words:CAM
Three Words:NUKE(Bad Quality.Milabeled)
and The Fourth Word is:Wait

Posted by SPS on 02-12-2003 03:52 PM:

nuked for bad sound... and it was really bad sound :P

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Posted by anticrom69 on 02-12-2003 03:53 PM:

Not nuked on my sites...Sound isnt that bad, a little fuzzy, but if u adjust sound controls, u can get it to go away....

Posted by aXs-SVCD on 02-12-2003 03:54 PM:

ok, its a little better Quality as UTi but still blury and sound is still low and hall, Cam is on the side !

but u know what its Good movie and wroth downloading

ESOTERiC thanx for this Movie!

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Posted by parasiticgann on 02-12-2003 04:00 PM:

yeah??????

quote:
Originally posted by SPS
nuked for bad sound... and it was really bad sound :P

That could be true. But I have a question why wasn't Final destination 2 eso nuked? or the jungle book 2? or the santa clause 2 both copies? Star trek nemesis ftf? LOTR TTT uti? My point is 99/100 times a movie isn't nuked for shit sound. Well if it were the only releases that wouldn't be nuked is ctp's movies. they get some damn good sound. I was shocked with how to lose a fag in 10 days. damn good sound.

Posted by MediaRipper on 02-12-2003 04:11 PM:

Re: yeah??????

quote:
Originally posted by parasiticgannon

Well if it were the only releases that wouldn't be nuked is ctp's movies. they get some damn good sound. I was shocked with how to lose a fag in 10 days. damn good sound.

Well actually that is what a Telesync is suppose to sound like if you go the actual definition of a TS. 98% of all telesyncs released are all mislabeled cams(the truth hurts dont it).

Posted by Bullet on 02-12-2003 04:15 PM:

Dont think it's that bad. The audio is decent enough and the video is acceptable in this stage.
Personally i'm waiting till friday when this movie will come in the UK cinema's;..so i expect a better release on sunday.

However;..if you cant wait;...it's acceptable

6/6/?

Posted by namco on 02-12-2003 04:56 PM:

Picture looks a bit better than UTi's release and I've watched a lot worse. Depends on how bad you wanna see this movie.

Great job really.

Posted by bird on 02-12-2003 05:03 PM:

Aah, finally a new rls. Props to ESOTERIC for this one.
As for the movie, audio ok (but i actually think uti one sounded better?),
video decent enough, (and slightly better than the uti release)

5/4/?

Posted by flipp0r on 02-12-2003 05:12 PM:

what a touching scene. it brings a tear to my eye
video is FS, pretty dark.. one of ESO's better rls
not the greatest but hell, i certainly couldnt do better
(6)
Sound isn't bad. a little low, (4)

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Posted by LiQuIdMuNkY on 02-12-2003 05:22 PM:

Actually this is one of the better TS i've ever seen, the vid is a bit dark but still very watchable, the audio is almost as good as UTi's, but still very good. the sample made me cry

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Posted by Leigh^ on 02-12-2003 05:29 PM:

w00t

Something else to watch tonight, grabbed sample a while ago, overall not bad, audio not ass up to scratch as UTi's, pic is moderatly better..
Once again, mad props on the nice pre
overall
5/4/?

Posted by parasiticgann on 02-12-2003 05:59 PM:

Re: Re: yeah??????

quote:
Originally posted by MediaRipper

Well actually that is what a Telesync is suppose to sound like if you go the actual definition of a TS. 98% of all telesyncs released are all mislabeled cams(the truth hurts dont it).

Something i didn't think about, you gotta point. I forgot that alot of TS's are mislabeld. But it doesn't really hurt exept for the cat scratching my damn foot. that hurts more

Posted by phoR20 on 02-12-2003 06:15 PM:

Re: This Movie Rocks

quote:
Originally posted by looncorleone
just watched the sample here on my l33t connection is ok for a CAM couldnt get any better so worth the download if u really must see is watchable...sound was a lil on the hollow side like if they recorded this in a restroom it had that echo effect......in all i rate this movie a 7 on video and 5 on audio!!!

hey newbie, if u think that "a CAM couldnt get any better"
u know nothing at all of the scene, if u think this is as good as cams get ...go get your shit off Kazaa...o wait a min...thats where u get your shit ain't it?....my bad.

Posted by parasiticgann on 02-12-2003 06:28 PM:

Re: Re: This Movie Rocks

quote:
Originally posted by phoR20

hey newbie, if u think that "a CAM couldnt get any better"
u know nothing at all of the scene, if u think this is as good as cams get ...go get your shit off Kazaa...o wait a min...thats where u get your shit ain't it?....my bad.

Dude thats fucking harsh man. but funny as hell, and probably right. well for anyone to think this is as good as it gets they should dowload life or something like it by ctp. that looked fucking great. that was as close as you can get to a dvd scr. it didn't look nearly as good as a dvd scr but it was good. better than alot of vhs screeners.

Posted by Levangles on 02-12-2003 06:40 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by MediaRipper
One word:SILVER
Two words:CAM
Three Words:NUKE(Bad Quality.Milabeled)
and The Fourth Word is:Wait

umm.... ok, silver is one word, but unfortunately cam is not two. try not to sound like you know so much when you're that dumb

Posted by MediaRipper on 02-12-2003 07:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Levangles

umm.... ok, silver is one word, but unfortunately cam is not two. try not to sound like you know so much when you're that dumb

you dumbfuck silver,cam and nuke how many words is that ?Atleast learn to fucking count before using a computer you fucking moron.

Posted by bbmd on 02-12-2003 07:41 PM:

Excellent quality..ignored the sample cos i never bother with them neway

Sound is good..didn't sound hollow to me so i deduce it is in fact a TS as correctly labeled

Picture is good also..not dark but spot on (switch ur dvd standalones from pal > ntsc some times..can make a hell of a difference lol)

AR is slightly out but who cares..no borders and full screen..this is a good release well done ESOTERiC

Posted by Mystic Slippe on 02-12-2003 07:41 PM:

UPDATE: Just tested this in my DVD player. Sound is fine. WTF are you all talkin bout? The sample is from a dark part of the movie, daylight scenes seem just fine.

If it's nuked it doesn't deserve to be and i haven't seen it nuked anywhere yet.

I don't give two shits about this movie, it looks like total crap so ima watch this tonight either way.

Posted by slaz on 02-12-2003 07:42 PM:

Well I wont pretend like I am a guru with scenes and stuff but I will say this, and might as well post it here as the topic seems to have been touched upon in previous posts...

A TS is supposed to have a DIRECT audio source, isnt it? It just makes me smile when I see all of these TS labelled movies with really poor sound because if you have a direct source then what is it that they do to make the audio so bad? If anyone does actually have some knowledge on this I'd like to know so feel free to post/pm me

A cam is not allways bad! I remember a fair few UTi CAM releases of late which were really good, and certainly better than anything else on offer at the time... Final Destination 2 for example, or a few months ago I remember being pretty pleased with their release of Stuart Little 2 which as I recall was a CAM.

I would say that a lot of the time the case is that a group has got their hands on a silver from Asia and just released it as a TS, when the case is a lot of the time its a CAM. But I am probably wrong! I am personally gratefull for anything and everything that a group of people release because the important facts are that they took the time to do it, and more importantly its FREE! hehe.

As for my rating for this release, I am going to give it a 7/6. Its certainly "watchable" but i wont be burning this one! Plus I am of the mind that this is a cam! But congrats to esoteric! nice rls! thnx!

Posted by CcZ on 02-12-2003 08:58 PM:

Sample is pretty dark, but good release overall. I would have liked to see UTi re do it with their own camera, but this will do. Even though ESOTERiC is not a great group (average 5.5 or so for video, 5 for sound, ftf is 4 for video, 4 for sound) it's great to know that they are VERY consistent and dependable. FTF is/used to be consistent, fast, and dependable, but their releases weren't good. I guess mediocre quality is what you get from a consistent/dependable group. 5.5/4/7.5

Posted by mathias on 02-12-2003 09:50 PM:

thanx

thanx for the release but movies like this there is no other way to enjoy them except at the movies..... great picture great sound and then when we get a good rip Ill enjoy it again at home....

but thanx again

Posted by brr8760 on 02-12-2003 09:53 PM:

YECCH. Poor. I see Eso TS nowadays, I go, "arrggghhhh" and hope it doesn't prevent a decent release in the near future.

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Posted by your name her on 02-12-2003 09:58 PM:

One of eso's good rls's the pic isnt that bad at all its very watchable its jus the sound thats bad its not nuked on any of my sites so i dont no what u guys are talking bout like the sample its a sad moment 6/5/?

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Posted by VW-Russia on 02-12-2003 10:07 PM:

Just finished watchin CD1 of this release... someone said the camera was angled? That disappeared after the credits were done..Nice movie.. Quality could have been a little better... 6/7/9

Posted by target on 02-12-2003 10:33 PM:

will wait for screener...

i guess there will be better versions real soon.
so i will pass on this one.

Posted by dEEKAy on 02-12-2003 11:38 PM:

its awright for a pre- 5/4/8

props for the pre....

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Posted by umiker on 02-13-2003 12:36 AM:

where the fluck can I find a sample?

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Posted by petrocs on 02-13-2003 01:52 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by umiker
where the fluck can I find a sample?

try looking for it..and if you dont know where to go you shouldnt be here posting

oh and btw..I have looked..you've asked how to get samples in almost every thread you posted..STOP cause no one is gonna tell you..fuckin n00b

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Posted by outside_ag on 02-13-2003 02:05 AM:

I just watched this.

The video is crooked, over-zoomed, dark, and low-res. Sound has lots of hiss, and is generally poor.

It really isn't watchable.

The movie sucks too.

Posted by SuperBastard on 02-13-2003 02:22 AM:

Is the movie any good? I hates the Ben Afleck - but i do enjoy a good superhero movie.

Posted by pHizZ on 02-13-2003 05:05 AM:

movie isn't that bad. however, elecktra is supposed to be a villain, and kingpin is supposed to be white, and a lot wider.

video was definitely zoomed in, and angled. it never actually fixed itself, its just more noticable in the opening credits. There was about 10% of the movie cut off on each side as well.

audio was okay. pretty smooth, but there was a low hissing sound. towards the end, it got a little jumpy. also the background music throughout the movie sounded distorted.

it is fairly watchable, i give it a 5/5/7

i await a centropy release; they have the reels, so maybe a TC is in order? also, go see this in the theaters, i think its worth it.

Posted by lipster on 02-13-2003 05:14 AM:

Just got down watching this movie and would have to say its not a porn im watching but the real deal...the vedio was kinda dark and sound wasnt the greatest but it was watchable....

Posted by Hatbert on 02-13-2003 05:16 AM:

ok... i got this release cause the uti one was subbed... and im quite dissapointed with ESO.... They missed a huge section of the movie... almost 45 mins worth. The entire scene with the japonese chick being raped... this was a very important part of the plot in my opion and i just have to say you need to check these things before you release esoteric.... bad BAD!!!!

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Posted by your name her on 02-13-2003 05:20 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by umiker
where the fluck can I find a sample?

LMAO

Please dont post here unless you have at least axx to a dump or something

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Posted by CaptainPooHat on 02-13-2003 06:19 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hatbert
ok... i got this release cause the uti one was subbed... and im quite dissapointed with ESO.... They missed a huge section of the movie... almost 45 mins worth. The entire scene with the japonese chick being raped... this was a very important part of the plot in my opion and i just have to say you need to check these things before you release esoteric.... bad BAD!!!!

45 mins!? what the hell?! shouldn't this have been a 3cd rls then? lol

i gotta see that part, you cant watch a rls without seeing the whole thing, so thanks for bringing it up (cuz it seems like no one else was going to). I guess i'll have to hold off downloading this, seeing how much i like japanese chicks 'n all and just wait for friday till i see it in theatres

oh well..

ESO-check your silvers before you rls them!

haha..good for a few laughs.. hatbert's my new best friend

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Posted by Phantasmical on 02-13-2003 08:49 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hatbert
ok... i got this release cause the uti one was subbed... and im quite dissapointed with ESO.... They missed a huge section of the movie... almost 45 mins worth. The entire scene with the japonese chick being raped... this was a very important part of the plot in my opion and i just have to say you need to check these things before you release esoteric.... bad BAD!!!!

:: hehe that cheered me up :P prepare for idiots to flame you now not realising the sarcasm -pHo

Jesus you mong at least post a FUCKING SPOILER WARNING. Moron.

Posted by Mr_Grinch on 02-13-2003 09:01 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by lipster
Just got down watching this movie and would have to say its not a porn im watching but the real deal...the vedio was kinda dark and sound wasnt the greatest but it was watchable....

Erm... great... not porn. Well done. This'd do me if it was anything but Daredevil, but being a big, special effects filled film, I'll wait for the flood of Internals and just pick one of them! There's too much cut off on the sides of this one and I'm tending to go with people that say the sound is bad... if it IS a telesync then I'd hate to be partially deaf in that cinema.

Posted by PRiNT on 02-13-2003 04:13 PM:

Thanks for the movie, although I find this flick too dark for my standards so I think I'll pass... thanks

Posted by petrocs on 02-13-2003 05:46 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by CaptainPooHat

45 mins!? what the hell?! shouldn't this have been a 3cd rls then? lol

i gotta see that part, you cant watch a rls without seeing the whole thing, so thanks for bringing it up (cuz it seems like no one else was going to). I guess i'll have to hold off downloading this, seeing how much i like japanese chicks 'n all and just wait for friday till i see it in theatres oh well..

ESO-check your silvers before you rls them!

haha..good for a few laughs.. hatbert's my new best friend

You sir continue to prove how much of a n00b idiot you are..

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Geez I am so talented..

Posted by on 02-13-2003 06:21 PM:

yawn

just finally watched it i dunno if it was me or my xanax but the movie was very dark and boring, i fell asleep after cd2, quliaty sucked sound was shit and the movie well...... i hope it was justr the fact that i was wasted on xanax cause i though it was very booring. Hope a good ctp ts or screener comes out so i can enjoy it

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Posted by bmvtoys on 02-13-2003 10:24 PM:

uhhh...movie lists on line at being 96 minutes..not 2 hours +...

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Posted by CaptainPooHat on 02-14-2003 12:04 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Phantasmical

Jesus you mong at least post a FUCKING SPOILER WARNING. Moron.

WTH is a mong?

quote:
Originally posted by bmvtoys
uhhh...movie lists on line at being 96 minutes..not 2 hours +...

b

LMAO...pHo, right you were.

iiiiidiots, thats all i have to say.

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Posted by pHo on 02-14-2003 12:38 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by CaptainPooHat
LMAO...pHo, right you were.

is there ever doubt ? :P

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Posted by your name her on 02-14-2003 02:10 AM:

Re: This Movie Rocks

quote:
Originally posted by looncorleone
just watched the sample here on my l33t connection is ok for a CAM couldnt get any better so worth the download if u really must see is watchable...sound was a lil on the hollow side like if they recorded this in a restroom it had that echo effect......in all i rate this movie a 7 on video and 5 on audio!!!

i meen who cares if u have a "l33t" connection its only a sample if u were on cable it would only take u bout 2 minutes to get it anyways

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Posted by pHizZ on 02-14-2003 02:18 AM:

Re: Re: This Movie Rocks

quote:
Originally posted by your name here

i meen who cares if u have a "l33t" connection its only a sample if u were on cable it would only take u bout 2 minutes to get it anyways

yeah.. im pretty sure he was joking. some people need to lighten up around here.

Posted by MediaRipper on 02-14-2003 02:34 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by lipster
Just got down watching this movie and would have to say its not a porn im watching but the real deal...

Let me guess you get your releases from KAZAA lol

Posted by looncorleone on 02-14-2003 03:11 AM:

shuddup alot of whiney lil gerlz....

man there's always some dumb dude that wanna talk down on someone plz stfu......post something bout tha movie.....

Posted by Pra3t0 on 02-14-2003 07:39 AM:

Guess what? Unlike some of you, I actually downloaded the movie and watched it! (gasp)

This seems like a CAM. The image is tilted and zoomed in very close to the screen so the sides are chopped off. Guess they wanted to record it full-screen. So we're losing some picture on the sides. Image is a little blurry. Has a bluish tint. At times the audio sounds like it's coming off a mangled cassette tape, but is okay throughout 95% of the film.

The movie: some impressive fighting choreography (but some of it was pretty bad too), Affleck was tolerable (silly looking red costume), Jennifer was gorgeous (Elektra's leather outfit was a jawdropper), Bullseye was funny, Kingpin was boring. Overall it was an okay movie, not great.

4/6/5

Posted by target on 02-14-2003 10:51 AM:

just watched it and i gotta say i will definetely download a better
version when its out
but its watchable.
5/6/8

Posted by Phantasmical on 02-14-2003 01:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by MediaRipper

Let me guess you get your releases from KAZAA lol

Whats wrong with that

Posted by Phantasmical on 02-14-2003 01:33 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by CaptainPooHat

WTH is a mong?

Reatrd, like that fucking muppet.

Posted by call2die4 on 02-14-2003 02:42 PM:

Dare Devil

Really Dark is all I have to say
5.5 - 5 - 6.5

Posted by Mista Freeze on 02-14-2003 07:17 PM:

daredevil lowdown

the quality of the video is pretty bad...no way this is a telesync...it's got this weird upward angle slant and the audio is defiinitely NOT from a direct source. portions of the top of the screen as well as the sides are cut off, and at times it is so dark that it is difficult to make out some of the fight scenes. it's definitely WATCHABLE...but...you're definitely going to want to see the flick again in a new release. video is a 4, audio is a 4, film is a 7...

Posted by Phantasmical on 02-15-2003 12:21 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hatbert
ok... i got this release cause the uti one was subbed... and im quite dissapointed with ESO.... They missed a huge section of the movie... almost 45 mins worth. The entire scene with the japonese chick being raped... this was a very important part of the plot in my opion and i just have to say you need to check these things before you release esoteric.... bad BAD!!!!

:: hehe that cheered me up :P prepare for idiots to flame you now not realising the sarcasm -pHo

~~~~~~minor spoiler~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I just saw this movie, fucking good it was too. But anyway Japanese chick being raped, what in the hell are you talking about?

Posted by parasiticgann on 02-15-2003 01:15 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Phantasmical

Whats wrong with that

If you got it off kazaa its a damn divx recode you dipshit

Posted by flashman on 02-18-2003 08:32 PM:

NOW THIS IS SOMETHING I DONT UNDERSTAND,THE QUALITY ON THIS AINT WORTH A CRAP,THE CAM IS HORRIBLE,THE MOVIE IS CUT-OFF.EXCUSE ME IF IM MISTAKEN BUT AINT ESCOTERIC,AND PMT VERSION THE SAME???????LOOKS LIKE THE SAME VIDEO,AUDIO, AND CAM TO ME .HOPEFULLY VCD CENTRAL IS DIFFERENT LOL.

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