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Posted by neofilms on 06-26-2003 01:06 AM:

wee telecine

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Posted by Hitman47 on 06-26-2003 01:13 AM:

great, too bad about the sync tho

7/5/9

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Posted by your name her on 06-26-2003 02:00 AM:

pretty nice TC

well i usually get outta sync audio on most of the samples i get so i wont no if this is outta sync till i grab cd1 but audio is good
video is nice, a lil dark but good

8/8/9

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Posted by elpale1 on 06-26-2003 03:12 AM:

better quality than the ctp rls... but whats the point of gettin this.. just wait for a dvdscr...

Posted by flipp0r on 06-26-2003 03:20 AM:

definitely looks much better than all the othe previous rls. good job on the audio too. the ctp audio was by far the most clear.
colors are pretty vibrant also
8/8 tc rating

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Posted by w1c on 06-26-2003 03:23 AM:

looks good. audio is clear, but obviously desynched (as said in the nfo)
slight ghosting towards the begining of the sample towards the left though.

anyways, its nice to see this release get out, but i dunno if i can sit through a partially out-of-sync version of this shitty movie.

props to replica.

Posted by SycoCowz on 06-26-2003 03:30 AM:

9/7/9

flipp0r I disagree I liked the APM sound better, the CTP sound was a bit hollow

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Posted by napalmfuzz on 06-26-2003 04:38 AM:

noone here knows if a dvd screener will even be produced for this movie.. so stop all the "wait for dvdscr" shit in every thread for this movie.. next time i see it that person gets the special fuzzy treatment

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Posted by Orchromus on 06-26-2003 05:02 AM:

Nice quality, for a telecine. 7/7/9, I checked the sample and the sound did not seem out of sync to me, but i will have to check the release.

Posted by jmur on 06-26-2003 08:25 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Blackwolf
Was the audio synced with the CTP telesync release or from the dolby 5.1 soundtrack they used in the dvdr release? hopefully the 5.1 sound track

im gonna pretend you never even asked that question...
anyways, i think this is a nice release. nice picture quality.
8/7/10
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Posted by MoNoXiDe on 06-26-2003 08:50 AM:

Badass Rls... I like the audio... Its pretty good IMO... Video is great for a TC... Thats after scanning through CD1

8/8/8

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Posted by r0b on 06-26-2003 09:58 AM:

The quality of the picture isn't bad. the colors seem a little too high in contrast but it is better than the ctp rls. duh, its a TC. They picked a great scene for the sample. If you have good speakers(surround/stereo) then you will appreciate the scene selected on the sample because when the guns start firing it's like an ORGY OF SOUND. You can hear where every gun is coming from. its freakin awesome!

Posted by Tweezer on 06-26-2003 09:59 AM:

nice video, a little bright but not too bad. as far as the audio sync issue, barely noticable...this release will do me just fine till a DVD scr/retail

did anyone else notice a slight flicker? i may be just seeing things

8/7/9

Posted by locco on 06-26-2003 10:45 AM:

GOOD GOD NICE JOB!

AUDIO 10
VIDEO 10
MOVIE 10

Posted by fudge_u on 06-26-2003 10:48 AM:

Props go out to Replica for this release... by far the nicest release of Matrix Reloaded.... too bad it was a dvd screener or dvdrip. Oh well... this also nice.

Mak.

Posted by Butch on 06-26-2003 11:16 AM:

*From CD1*

Where do i start?.I have seen 6 releases of this film now before this one and until now obviously the CTP DVD-r was the best (and SVCD).I would say this release is better by only by a very small amount.The Sample was from where i would estimate to be the end of CD2 and was totally out of sync.CD1 was 100% fine at the beginning apart from the flicker when the titles were coming up,the sound goes completely out of sync towards the end of CD1 when Neo is talking to the Oracle.From this can we now expect either CD2 and CD3 to be comletely out of sync or like CD1 will they be ok at first and go towards the end of each one?.The picture is pretty dark,quite the same as CTP's version.Also when Morpheus is asking another ship to wait for a message from the oracle before the first fight scene with the agents the film freezes for a split second before resuming.
I'm going to upset the masses now and say there isn't that much difference between this and CTP's SVCD T/S!.
The picture isn't great,the sound is brilliant but when audio is out of sync it really annoys me.I don't think i'll resume cd3 if cd2 appears to be the same as CD1.
Oh and before i aam flamed to death the last time i reviewed a release of Reloaded i was inundated with PM's from newbie's asking if i could help them find where to d/l it from.If i get anymore of these PM's i will be forwarding them to administation and they can deal with them as they wish.
Thank-you

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Posted by crob on 06-26-2003 01:03 PM:

On the sample - colour is okay but the contrast and depth is a bit muggy. However, this beats the CTP version due to NO ANGLE problems (well, of course, it's a Telecine...) which is a major issue in my eyes.

Sound is clear but there are sync issues... those with Xbox's like me will have no trouble changing the sync via the Media Player as it plays to fix this

Posted by yellowkid on 06-26-2003 03:58 PM:

I watched the sample using winDVD and the audio sync was fine.Downloading cd 1 now.

8/8/...

Posted by Ovrkill on 06-26-2003 05:26 PM:

video nice, audio desynced in parts as stated in nfo, overall decent release, but not needed in my opinion.

quote:
Originally posted by SycoCowz
9/7/9

flipp0r I disagree I liked the APM sound better, the CTP sound was a bit hollow

That is just hilarious on so many levels

Posted by desertboy on 06-26-2003 06:59 PM:

Re: *From CD1*

quote:
Originally posted by Butch
Oh and before i aam flamed to death the last time i reviewed a release of Reloaded i was inundated with PM's from newbie's asking if i could help them find where to d/l it from.If i get anymore of these PM's i will be forwarding them to administation and they can deal with them as they wish.
Thank-you

This is precisely the reason Desertboy no longer posts here regularly. I used to be active in the forums but I got sick of PM's asking were to get the movie or even would I send them a copy through the mail for cash.

Watched the sample and it looks nice the audio sync isn't a prob for me on the sample I'm a XBMP user so I can sync my audio in realtime.

8/7/5

Won't be getting the whole release CTP did me and I won't be watching this one again.

Desertboy now sheepishly skulks off back into the cracks

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Posted by pHo on 06-26-2003 07:24 PM:

i think most people seem to not realise the 2nd centropy print was an entirely different print altogether. both video and audio were new, not just the audio, so there was no angle problem on the dvdr.

i think i'll stick to 6ch audio with no discswap personally

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Posted by K-FurY on 06-26-2003 08:09 PM:

Awesome release, video's colors are a bit funky, but overall great, the sound is taken from the dvdr, so it is also excellent (be aware though that it wont be 5.1 because this is an svcd). It goes slightly out of sync from time to time (judging from sample), but it doesn't bother me that much, Ill definately be picking up this release. Anyways
Vid: 8
Sound: 9(woulda been 10, if no sync issue)
Movie: 9

Posted by Booju15 on 06-26-2003 09:19 PM:

Sync Sound?

How do you sync sound to real time, does anybody know anygood software which can do that besides wmp for xbox?

Posted by mew on 06-26-2003 09:30 PM:

pHo: knowing it's released by Replica, a dvdr group, it would make sense if they put out a dvdr on it.

Very good vid, colors not 100% natural but still good-looking. A bit dark in some scenes but overall alot better than earlier ones.

The few small desyncs didn't bother me much, hardly noticed actually.

9/9/8

Posted by neoparadox on 06-26-2003 09:59 PM:

8/10/10

Good work Replica. The colors are too saturated, but if you lower the color saturation on your TV it's fine.

quote:
Originally posted by SycoCowz
9/7/9

flipp0r I disagree I liked the APM sound better, the CTP sound was a bit hollow

LOL. APM's Matrix Reloaded release was a vcd encode of Centropy's SVCD, so APM's audio is actually a downgraded version of Centropy's audio.

Posted by pHo on 06-26-2003 10:23 PM:

quote:
pHo: knowing it's released by Replica, a dvdr group, it would make sense if they put out a dvdr on it.

not entirely sure what you mean.... is there a typo there or am i just being confused ?

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Posted by masta_spl on 06-26-2003 10:29 PM:

this is a nice release but i think replica should have experimented with it going on dvdr

Posted by mew on 06-26-2003 11:06 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by pHo

not entirely sure what you mean.... is there a typo there or am i just being confused ?

Nah was just saying that maybe they will rls a DVDR of it, wouldn't surprise me since Replica is a DVDR group.

Posted by XeroFightsAlo on 06-26-2003 11:39 PM:

gooooood shit!! 8/6/9

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Posted by blahblubb on 06-27-2003 02:09 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by pHo
i think most people seem to not realise the 2nd centropy print was an entirely different print altogether. both video and audio were new, not just the audio, so there was no angle problem on the dvdr.

prolly a bad idea arguing with a mod while still not having posted more than 10 posts without even knowing anything about the release the thread is about except for the sample but what the heck ...

look closely again at the picture of the dvdr ts ... is is exactly the same picture ... id suggest you make screenshots of a scene wherer you can see lines on the botttom and on the left and reight boundaries of the picture ... what you will notice that the left/right angle of the pic is exactly the same as on the svcd ... secondly you will notice more and more of the pic is missing on the sides as you move your eyes upwards ... quote: as you are undoubtedly gathering the picture was streched trapeziodal ... the picture is also streched verticaly but thats also only something to fix the angle ... this is all something that tgsc usually does with bad angles (and i cant really understand why cts releases still got bad angles anymore after tgsc showed them how to fix it) ...

as for this release ... as i said i cant really comment on it but from the sample ... picture is really nice (as you would expect from a tc) colors look a little odd but could be the overall lighting theme of the scene ...

as for the sound .... seem slightly out of sync ... i think from reading the commets form others here who have watched more of this id guess they took the svcd sound from ctp and missdid the sync on the points where ctps has a cd change (one here said it goes out of sync on the scene with the oracle which is exactly after a cd change) if so i cant really understand why the diddn use the 5.1 tgsc sound but ... whatever ... could also be a problem of their video ... missing frames or something like it ...

Posted by Pra3t0 on 06-27-2003 02:10 AM:

Just finished watching CD 1

Video is a little blurry. I would've liked it a little sharper.
Not enough contrast. Darks are not dark enough. Lights are not light enough.

Audio sounds very clear and good but is out of sync.

Movie. Not enough blood and bruising and too much talk. And that rave scene. ugh!

8/7/8

Posted by FunkyFlyChick on 06-27-2003 05:43 AM:

Ok, I thought a TC was supposed to be BETTER than a TS? lol

You know, I really can't rate this release very high.

1) There are already too many TS's of Reloaded out there that are decent quality (especially APM and Centropy).

2) Come on, guys - MONO sound? You could have done much better for a TC (and SHOULD have, for an unnecessary release like this...)

3) Picture isn't any better than Centropy's TS (and I'd go so far to say it's slightly worse...)

Again, NOT from the sample. I've watched the whole thing. I don't know how people can give the audio here a high score (unless, of course, they are only judging by the sample, freaking idiots). It's slightly out of sync (only slightly, though), not all that crisp, and is MONO... I mean, hell, they could have just put the mono audio track through both left and right when they encoded this...

6/6/8

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Posted by TheBeyonder on 06-27-2003 05:45 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by pHo
i think most people seem to not realise the 2nd centropy print was an entirely different print altogether. both video and audio were new, not just the audio, so there was no angle problem on the dvdr.

i think i'll stick to 6ch audio with no discswap personally

the angle fix cames from TGSC and the ac3 sound upmix too

Posted by ams30gts on 06-27-2003 06:16 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by neoparadox
8/10/10

Good work Replica. The colors are too saturated, but if you lower the color saturation on your TV it's fine.

LOL. APM's Matrix Reloaded release was a vcd encode of Centropy's SVCD, so APM's audio is actually a downgraded version of Centropy's audio.

ROFL

Posted by m3442a on 06-27-2003 10:36 AM:

Stupid Question( i am new,sorry): How can i find the links for this release? On this Site? Can anyone posting the links for me? Thanks bye major

Posted by XeroFightsAlo on 06-27-2003 11:01 AM:

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Originally posted by m3442a
Stupid Question( i am new,sorry): How can i find the links for this release? On this Site? Can anyone posting the links for me? Thanks bye major

The link is here duuude!!!!

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Posted by kjeks on 06-27-2003 11:07 AM:

*Judging from sample*

Nice release. Audio has no flaws exept from the mentioned SMALL desync.

Video is kind of dark, and a little blurry. But this is alot better than any telesync.

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Posted by mew on 06-27-2003 02:23 PM:

Re: Ok, I thought a TC was supposed to be BETTER than a TS? lol

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyFlyChicken

2) Come on, guys - MONO sound? You could have done much better for a TC (and SHOULD have, for an unnecessary release like this...)

Again, NOT from the sample. I've watched the whole thing. I don't know how people can give the audio here a high score (unless, of course, they are only judging by the sample, freaking idiots). It's slightly out of sync (only slightly, though), not all that crisp, and is MONO... I mean, hell, they could have just put the mono audio track through both left and right when they encoded this...

6/6/8

Mono? Quit smoking your weed dude. It's been confirmed that the audio is from centropy 5.1 mix, so unless that one is mono this isn't either.

If you even watched the sample you could tell its stereo. Or do you imply that sample is stereo but release is mono? :P

Posted by kjeks on 06-27-2003 04:01 PM:

Where the heck do i get .cue files for this thing?

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Posted by Gumbynpokey on 06-27-2003 04:10 PM:

8/7/1

Posted by kjeks on 06-27-2003 05:18 PM:

Ok, i skipped through the whole thing now, and i have to admit, that i am a little dissaponted.

Actually i am a DVDrip only-guy, and i never knew what Telecine was until now.

I think this movie alot more like a Telesync than i thought it would.
So i am still really looking forward to a DVDrip or DVDscr.

But, geez its the best so far (isnt it?)

7/9/10

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Posted by FunkyFlyChick on 06-27-2003 05:33 PM:

About the Mono sound...

In response to the question about the "mono sound", let me reiterate my earlier response.

I NEVER judge by samples. I always judge by the entire release. Now, I imagine it is possible that the version I got had been "downgraded" or something, possibly screwing the audio up - who knows. It's almost impossible to tell sometimes...

BUT -

In my copy of Replica's Matrix Reloaded TC, the sound only comes through the RIGHT CHANNEL. I am playing it on a Dolby Digital 5.1 system - as I do with all of my movies. I also plugged in the headphones to see what it sounded like (since I am a bit hard of hearing). Right channel comes through decent enough - left channel was completely silent (and I tested this during the opening sequence with Trinity blasting out of the window, firing on the Agent... Should have been a perfect point for testing...)

I HAVE the Centropy release as well, and that one sounds incredible (especially for a TS). This one doesn't sound anywhere near as good - not to mention you have the bad syncs...

ANYONE HERE have the same problem with the FULL RELEASE(Not the damn sample...)? The Mono Sound?

I watched Charlies Angels 2 TS last night, and that one was fine (audio both channels on headphones, came through all speakers also)

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Posted by mew on 06-27-2003 09:04 PM:

Hmm intresting, neither me or my friend got that issue, we got perfect clear stereo. Have you tried another media player or output mode?

Posted by MANiK on 06-27-2003 10:15 PM:

Great job on telecine, but the sound dub could be better

Posted by Krakn3Dfx on 06-27-2003 11:12 PM:

Well, I watched the first disc on my DVD player on my 36" TV with the sound being piped through my Dolby Digital/DTS receiver, and I gotta say I think it's damned nice! The sound is incredible...for a telecine with a hacked together audio track from another groups telesync. The picture is as clear as you could ask for without getting a DVD screener, reminds me of when I used to rent old VHS tapes at Blockbuster that had been watched 100 times before I got to it.

Regardless tho, this release is very nice and will likely hold me over until something ripped from a DVD or the DVD itself comes out.

8/9/10

Posted by LabRat on 06-28-2003 02:26 AM:

YAY TELECINE.... quality looks great but i cant find any place to get it can somebody e-mail me on how to get this great movie
[email protected]

Posted by altimas on 06-28-2003 05:12 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by LabRat
YAY TELECINE.... quality looks great but i cant find any place to get it can somebody e-mail me on how to get this great movie
[email protected]

banned....

Posted by ophir on 06-28-2003 05:34 AM:

8 / 7 / 8

Posted by Skippy_2002ca on 06-28-2003 06:50 AM:

BEEN A BIT

wow been long time since i add my 2 cents but i sticking with the ctp till a dvdscr dont waste time i usuly waite till a dvd scr of a movie is realsed and download it anyway but with matrix i made an exeption.

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Where the heck do i get .cue files for this thing?

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Posted by Krakn3Dfx on 06-28-2003 07:41 AM:

Re: BEEN A BIT

quote:
Originally posted by Skippy_2002ca
wow been long time since i add my 2 cents but i sticking with the ctp till a dvdscr dont waste time i usuly waite till a dvd scr of a movie is realsed and download it anyway but with matrix i made an exeption.

How can you even compare the CTP release to this one? Yes, there are a few parts where the audio sync problem rears it's ugly head, but the video quality is exceptional for a telecine, much more vivid than CTP's TS.

I don't post much here because everybody is so godamned weird.

Posted by LabRat on 06-28-2003 01:45 PM:

Ah yes that was a noob thing to say now that i look at it.... but i cant find it on irc, bit torrent and i even lowerd myself to looking on kazaa. My friend can access ftp sites with these movies...

quote:
Originally posted by LabRat
YAY TELECINE.... quality looks great but i cant find any place to get it can somebody e-mail me on how to get this great movie
[email protected]

Posted by Neversoft on 06-28-2003 02:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by LabRat
Ah yes that was a noob thing to say now that i look at it.... but i cant find it on irc, bit torrent and i even lowerd myself to looking on kazaa. My friend can access ftp sites with these movies...

PLEASE for your own sake, stop before you're flamed to bits and quoted in everybody's sigs

If you haven't got FTP access it's going to be a day or two before it filters down onto IRC and eons before it's on Kazaa (by which point it'll be reencoded into Quicktime or something equally shite).

Anyway, for those of us that do understand forum rules... If you have the CTP version AND you don't get all moist thinking about Matrix movies, don't bother. If you're a Matrix obsessive or haven't got a copy already - grab this (sync problems aside, it's the best version).

8/7/7

Posted by kjeks on 06-28-2003 04:13 PM:

What the heck does he say at the end of CD 3.. Around the "to be concluded" message..

I think its finnish? "trachibi finale" or something.. what does it mean! Kind of ruins the release!!

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Posted by stezo2k on 06-28-2003 11:03 PM:

very nice release, a bit late though, bit better than the CTP release, sounds pretty gr8 too

8/8/7

Posted by Cypressbill on 06-29-2003 01:56 AM:

Matrix Reloaded

Definately the best release yet, and thats a fact

Picture 8 - Nice a clear
Sound 8 - Out of sync? Wateva
Movie 9.5 (Nothing ever deserves a 10, cus Matrix 3 will kick a$$)

Much Respect to Replica, keep up the good work

Au revoir Homies

Posted by lo.pro on 06-29-2003 03:27 AM:

ir you mean that there is only sound coming ftom one side, call it 'single-channel sound', so as to distinguish it from 'mono' sound, whih can be dual-channel but still mono.

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Posted by Skorpio on 06-29-2003 05:17 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Krakn3Dfx
Well, I watched the first disc on my DVD player on my 36" TV with the sound being piped through my Dolby Digital/DTS receiver, and I gotta say I think it's damned nice! The sound is incredible...for a telecine with a hacked together audio track from another groups telesync. The picture is as clear as you could ask for without getting a DVD screener, reminds me of when I used to rent old VHS tapes at Blockbuster that had been watched 100 times before I got to it.

Regardless tho, this release is very nice and will likely hold me over until something ripped from a DVD or the DVD itself comes out.

8/9/10

10? What are you high on glue? The first part of this movie sucked ass. Than when they showed Keanus ass i almost puked into my popcorn. Due to the fact that I almost fell asleep and if it wasnt for the coke i bought i would have. It kept me awake untill the second half which was by far much better. I give the the second have a B+. for and overall grade of a C+. They made this move into 3 parts because they are greedy bastards and almost ruined the movie. I hope they dont do the same in the 3rd part.

Posted by Krakn3Dfx on 06-29-2003 08:37 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Skorpio
10? What are you high on glue? The first part of this movie sucked ass. Than when they showed Keanus ass i almost puked into my popcorn. Due to the fact that I almost fell asleep and if it wasnt for the coke i bought i would have. It kept me awake untill the second half which was by far much better. I give the the second have a B+. for and overall grade of a C+. They made this move into 3 parts because they are greedy bastards and almost ruined the movie. I hope they dont do the same in the 3rd part.

I think of Reloaded as part 1 of a 2 part movie, and the original Matrix was more of a preface to the actual story. You can look at it and feel however you want about it, but I thought it was an exceptional film and I look forward to the conclusion.

Posted by XeroFightsAlo on 06-29-2003 09:07 AM:

the MPAA are going to be fuckin pissed. cot damn i love this scene.

(edit: i already posted i my thoughts on this rls but just had to say it, first the Hulk pre, then this)

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Posted by kjeks on 06-29-2003 02:33 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Skorpio
10? What are you high on glue? The first part of this movie

Well.. i think that one must be high on glue if they give the movie less than 9...

Anyone know yet what the dude says at the end of CD3, when the movie ends?

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Posted by XeroFightsAlo on 06-29-2003 04:20 PM:

i think its to be concluded but in german.

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Posted by XeroFightsAlo on 06-30-2003 08:04 AM:

is the audio sped-up to meet the video? i keep hearing high pitched chipmunk voices.

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Posted by yes_1288 on 06-30-2003 08:36 AM:

nice release

I just finished watching this on my dvd player with my 5.1 Home Theatere system, and all i have to say is WOW!!

Sadly the movie is completly out of sync for about 5 - 8 mins i dunno... the whole scene from when the guy enters the counslers office (Around End of Disc 1) to the end of the conversation of the Oracle (Start of Dis 1), thats all i noticed, everything else was nicely synced... The audio was the best! i cant beleive this track came from a TS source... it was amazing i mean the wooshing and those other noises were very nice... I usually get some pixalted parts when ever i try svcds, vcs etc... This was different tough none of that and the colors were very good too. DVD Scr quality almost. The out of sync parts were the only bothering thing

RATING -9/8/9

Posted by yellowkid on 06-30-2003 12:42 PM:

Watched the whole thing.Wanted to see how the movie will fair as a second viewing at home.
video =9
audio=6
movie=still an over written ,pretentious ,boring piece of green dung. 0
called for immediate erasure.

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