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-- Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones *RECODE* *iNTERNAL* - TELESYNC - XPD (http://www.vcdhq.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=3202)

i knew it!!!!!

i hope they release this internal!
i have been waiting for this one!!

looks nice xpd

Good Job XPD

argg

i'm sick of these damn re-encodes that are only internal! I want this rls so bad, much like I did the Spiderman rls. I couldn't ever find that one, but Star Wars is my #1 thing so hopefully it'll be somewhere...

the force is with xpd...

well do ur own rencode man. its easy. i jus want their settings so i can do it exactly like they did. cuz im tryin to re-encode spiderman but the picture isnt that good as vcd. :-( i want nice settings so i dont lose quality. fuck 3 cds is what i say

yeah I hear you. I just want to save myself some effort and just download the damn thing. I re-encoded the SeVcD version of this for fun, so I know how, its just a matter of how lazy i am!

i think this is better than the SVCD. thats just what i think, simply because of color fixes and AR fix

movie sucked ass.

you die....you die and burn!

with me its not whether i am too lazy to do it but more that i cannot. i have an old box [200 mhz - 64 mb ram] so re-encoding this would take me forever. since i watch it on my standalone dvd player that doesnt play these xvcd svcds that centropy seems to keep putting out.. i have a problem. they arent normal svcds are they? i have a few other svcds non-centropy and they work fine. odd. anyway i appreciate these re-encodes as i am unable to do them myself. hope to find this some where. thanks for taking your time to release it xpd.

-crusader

umm ur not gonna get the same quality with vcd format.. i did re encode it svcd-svcd takes about 10 hours for me.. svcd-vcd takes about 2 hours,,, and shrinks the files almost inhalf..the quality is a little less.. but itll fit on 2 cds.. and play in all vcd players. its not that hard kids really

no one said it was hard...we just don't, or literally are not able to do it. I'm too lazy to merge mpgs, cut, edit, correct, etc. I rather just grab XPD's kickin' rls and be happy with it

theres no way fixing the blockiness other than blurring the vcd. and thats lame.

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Originally posted by crusader
these xvcd svcds that centropy seems to keep putting out..

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Yea. I agree with MovieBootLegger. If we could just have the settings that they used, a lot of us could do this ourselves.

Anyone know this information or any suggestions on what they might have done?

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Eh?

i don't know if its my imagination but this is the same as the other version? i downloaded the Sample and it seemed compressed (picture looked squashed) when i finally got the whole thing it was fine in normal 16:3 now this version is released? what the difference between this and the other most recent verison?

some of the specs are on the nfo.....

6 releases...

Damn. Whats it up to? 6 god damn releases of the same bad movie! The only thing good about Star Wars Episode 2 was special effects, which are just taken away from these releases!



PS: Will you damn admins goto vbulletin.com and get some hacks for this board? I really like the one that allows you to have a quick response, rather than having to push the Replay button to reply. New Smilies would be nice too.

Well

Well i flamed xpd earlier but i have to take it back.

I now understand why you did the release, You did the release for people using PAL.

I just checked by ctp release and it is bad aspect in pal but very good in ntsc mode after dvd player conversion.

So i might fix cd3 if the errors are too bad since it is a fast job.

Sorry for flaming you

cadillact

To vorbis !!!

if i take a dvd from both pal and ntsc and put them next to each other you wouldnt see any difference between the tv that plays pal and the tv that plays ntsc.
At least i dont see a difference but who cares soon it will only be high def tv here in usa so pal can get lost since you cant compare pal to high def TV.

just my 2 cents. I have lived with pal for 20 years and ntsc for 5 and its same same but different.

why on earth should they recode to NTSC

in case you don't know, PAL is a worldwide recognised format. Nobody has to use NTSC. PAL is also supposed to be superior. Anyway the point is they can do what they like.

i can recode this thing myself....

This is the lamest fucking thing I have ever seen. There was nothing wrong with ctp release. What the fuck is up with these lame shitty ass groups riding on the success of real groups?

i know they use tmpenc, but what settings?? i have ctp release, and i'll reencode myself if i just have the settings. cause the pic quality looks great.

first post here, just my two cents on the reencoding
the resolution of each screenshot, not taking in any black seems to be 352x162
so all you need to do is convert the SVCD to AVI and reencode to that resolution, adding borders of 63 pixels top and bottom for PAL or 39 for NTSC. That will give you the aspect ratio XPD claim to be correct.
Sorry if you all already know that

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Originally posted by crusader
with me its not whether i am too lazy to do it but more that i cannot. i have an old box [200 mhz - 64 mb ram] so re-encoding this would take me forever. since i watch it on my standalone dvd player that doesnt play these xvcd svcds that centropy seems to keep putting out.. i have a problem. they arent normal svcds are they? i have a few other svcds non-centropy and they work fine. odd. anyway i appreciate these re-encodes as i am unable to do them myself. hope to find this some where. thanks for taking your time to release it xpd.

-crusader

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Originally posted by aTTicA
umm ur not gonna get the same quality with vcd format.. i did re encode it svcd-svcd takes about 10 hours for me.. svcd-vcd takes about 2 hours,,, and shrinks the files almost inhalf..the quality is a little less.. but itll fit on 2 cds.. and play in all vcd players. its not that hard kids really

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"Nothing says OBEY ME like a severed head on a fence post,"

How and with what program do you re-encode, cause TMPGEnc doesnt have the glare or color options...

LoL, violating their own rules...

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RUNTiME....[ 142 minutes

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4. 125 min WS 2 cds, 120 min FS 2 cds. Over those times will
be 3 cds. Over 180 4 CDs (rare)

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Blah?

How to re-encode

How would I go about re-encoding it, I have tried TMPGEnc and it has no such glare or color options...

this release looks like it has too much red in it....

can someone gime the settings of the encode of this movie. i wanna do a nice one also.

this is from the nfo.......


U²±°² RELEASEDATE[ 05-26-02 ²°±²U
U²±ß TYPE.......[ VCD ß±²U
U²± SOURCE.....[ CTP SVCD ±²U
²U²° STANDARD...[ PAL °²U²
U°²±° ViD.BiTRATE[ 1pass 1150 MAX (TMPGEnc) °±²°U
ßÜ°° RESOLUTiON.[ 352x288 °°Üß
±ß² AUD.BiTRATE[ 224 ²ß±
²±°ßÜ SiZE.......[ 2CDs 47/45 (74min)


is that some of the specs?

I dont think it would be against the forum rules if someone were to post the settings that XPD used to improve the quality of Centropy's release?

Anyone know?

Besides what is in the NFO?

Like taking out the glare.

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Please help me

I have the Centropy svcd, but when i try converting to vcd, the sound gets thrown off by a second or two. Someone please help me. I used TmPgenc and i tried fps of 29.97, 23.97, and 25, they all didnt work. AOl IM me at ahnil8er or email [email protected]

Ill hook u up with anything u want from me.

thanks

To clear the air

PAL--->more frames per second.
NTSC--->faster refresh rate.

Both formats have + and -

(edit :: true, but thats not the differences between NTSC and PAL hehe :P PAL has a higher vertical resolution but a lower framerate than NTSC - pHo )

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What stinks?


Oh, it's just JC

Why The fuck would u re encode this??? Centropy did a great job, if you dont like it PAL encode it however you want, who the hell is XPD anywho?

I don't think it would be against forum rules to ask how to duplicate what they did. I want to encode mine to the VCD that they did.

I know the NFO says a few things but can anyone help to tell me what settingins in TMPGEnc they used to make a great VCD?

Thanks

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what are the settings to encode to a vcd??
theres a freakin vcd template that comes with tmpgenc,
how hard is that?

and the original wasn't too blue, and the AR wasn't way off,
it was perfect when I played it on my dvd player and watched it on my TV, of course the AR was way off watching it on a computer, but if your just gonna watch it on a computer, convert it to a divx, not a vcd.

anyone with re-encode questions should look at vcdhelp.com,
it will answer pretty much every posible question you can have.

ok:
convert all 3 to mpg.
take part 1 and 2 and combine with mpeg tools
load the resulted combination to tmpgenc
load as vcd template, use ntsc
go to load template again, go to extras, go to unlock
use 1pass 1150 kbps max resolution 352X288 audio 224
do the samething with 3rd cd

i like to fuck around, like putting it on 1:1 vga and keep aspect ratio

there so many things you can do with tmpgenc, when you unlock it you can adhust the kbps to what you want
play around with the vbrs and shit i like to play with the widscreens and etc thats all

tell me if im wrong on the settings or add something (pho)

Release looks great from the jpeg. I'll probably re-encode the centropy myself. And it is very easy. TMPEGenc, freeware.
WTF is an xvcd? Its a vcd that has been encoded at a custom bitrate. In other words, its a non standard vcd or svcd. Some DVD players can't read non standard, some can. Apex players playem fine.

The only question I have is about the color correction. How do you add the more red and green to the picture?

And what GOP settings did they use?

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dont worry about GOP settings.
as for the color go to simple or custom color correction in the advanced settings

hahhahah

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Originally posted by gnosis
i knew it!!!!!

i hope they release this internal!
i have been waiting for this one!!

looks nice xpd

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PAL?!

Is this version also in PAL?

I'm really starting to hate CTP. If it's a re-code of the CTP rls, I hope it isn't. Sure, they're good ... but why the f*** are they releasing all this shit in PAL? My DVD player (Pioneer DV-440) won't even play it!

Okay, I know this shouldn't be the place to rag on CTP.

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Originally posted by napalmfuzz

obviously you know nothing about encoding... you can very easily take an svcd and make a vcd thats better quality simply by taking out the camera glare thats in all of ctp's releases... svcd does no justice what so ever to telesyncs. if youll look at resident evil and then look at spiderman youll notice its a big fucking waste.

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jeff shut your pie hole you fucking gay smut leecher ill kill you right where you stand, who the fuck are you calling "n00b" you bitch you got 10 posts eat some fucking goat shit and enjoy some left overs

dont be classifying whos new and whos not, i beleive eveyrone has thje right to freedom of speech, maybe not where you are from you damn paki, so stfu befoer you classify anyone


you obviously have no clue what i am talking about, what i mean if you understand english text is that i hope they release this internal, which i was referencing the god damn title dumbass
you thinking you all hardcore hahah

if you guys think you can improve glare or blockiness with a reencode, you're pretty stupid. you can change colours a bit, but the rest can be adjusted on your TV as well. And a reencode is always worse than original.

we dont think we can improve the glare and blockiness with rencode, we just want 3 cds instead of 3 with the same quality of the svcd......
people generally like to customize things themeselves.

so i dont think anyone is stupid, i dont know why i btoher anymore...

trying to convert

Ok, if anyone could help me out here, I'd really appreciate it. I've reencoded numerous vcd's in tmpgenc before, but I can't even get it to open the mpg files of centropy's release. It always tells me it cannot open or is unsupported. I've tried numerous ways of extracting them from the bin, but none of them seems to create an mpg that tmpgenc will open. If anyone has some insight into this, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks

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Originally posted by gnosis
we dont think we can improve the glare and blockiness with rencode, we just want 3 cds instead of 3 with the same quality of the svcd......

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buy an Apex please

All of you, please go to K-mart and buy a $50 apex, and then delete this whole thread.

The reason why a reader of this forum would buy a DVD player that does not play an SVCD is amazing.

And as far as re-encoding an SVCD in to a VCD to get "better quality" that is simply funny. Ok, fine, you adjusted the contrast. Wow, that's Great!

If you do it for yourself terriffic, but someone re-encoded the first cd of the ctp release, and uploaded it to the ng BEFORE THE ORIGINAL CTP POST WAS EVEN FINISHED!!

The reason for a multi day post, is to cut the bandwidth so that everyone can get it.

That is why this release is internal.

i'm with dystopian, i think it's rediculous that CTP can release fuzzy color fucked movies and call them SVCD's. when i think of SVCD i think of dvd quality, not sync problems or blockiness or anything that comes hand in hand with regular VCD's.
just because they release some highly anticipated titles in top VCD format, they think they are preserving something by encoding in SVCD?

maybe i'm just confused but i don't think that CTP should even be in the same catagory as SVCDs.

i mean 2 jackass

SVCD is a format not a quality type you jackass. Fucking ignorant newbs will whine about anything. For fucks sake watch the goddamned FTF if nothing centropy ever does is good enough. Good luck finding a group that does perfect in theater releases every release.

Re: buy an Apex please

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Originally posted by theBlaze74
If you do it for yourself terriffic, but someone re-encoded the first cd of the ctp release, and uploaded it to the ng BEFORE THE ORIGINAL CTP POST WAS EVEN FINISHED!!

The reason for a multi day post, is to cut the bandwidth so that everyone can get it.

That is why this release is internal.

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As ctp states from their nfo, the Telesyncs come from a DV source. Very high resolution, very big size. They are encoding into svcd to keep more of the resolution so that you get a better picture. Encoding a TS into svcd does not a screener make. I think all you nay-sayers are missing the point entirely. Also groups that steal other group's releases and encode them into a different format are fucking lame and have no place anywhere.

It cracks me up that you *(gnosis) or anyone else would be angry about anything here. This bootleg sub culture thing is pathetic. Its a fucking movie assholes. A movie that you downloaded free, and cost you nothing but bandwidth. The only part you had in this, was a download. Don't take so much credit for your so called contribution. I don't brag about buying Nacho Doritos when I got to Safeway. Isn't this forum for reviewing bootlegs? It doesn't take more then an idiot to download a movie, but it takes less of an idiot to get worked up over nothing. Don't take is so seriously, nobody cares about you, or your so called leech happy unoriginal sub culture.

i don't care about the bickering, i just like to read it (no comments from me on it).

about the SVCD to VCD re-encodes....in some cases it can improve the source in colour and aspect ratio, but quality..not so much. it can keep the same or even make it worse. if people want this for their own reasons, good for them. no reason to disown it. seems to be enough demand for it. who knows, could be CTP doing it under a different name.

i hear their source is DV, that kinda sucks for them for the reason DV to SVCD is tricky. it's not easy to get the quality you normally can from MPG2 to SVCD or video cap to SVCD.

they release great stuff in great time.

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Originally posted by nddf
Encoding a TS into svcd does not a screener make.

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i am just sad because i can not find this.. anywhere .. also my dvd player plays svcds.. i just want another version also my cousins dvd player will not play them

Viewing from different players

Its funny but WINDVD does a very good job in showing most vcd or svcds. In case of StarwarsII and *BRIGHT* recorded pictures, WINDVD is the *BEST*. However, DivX players work just as well and you can adjust the contrast and brightness. I dont understand but Windvd locks thoses controls so you can only watch is *AS IS*.

I think WINDVD for this version is the *BEST* to watch it.

-Odaiba

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to bad it's internal, much more difficult to find it

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Originally posted by 8tImER
LoL, violating their own rules...

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Re: PAL?!

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Originally posted by bithevn
Is this version also in PAL?

I'm really starting to hate CTP. If it's a re-code of the CTP rls, I hope it isn't. Sure, they're good ... but why the f*** are they releasing all this shit in PAL? My DVD player (Pioneer DV-440) won't even play it!

Okay, I know this shouldn't be the place to rag on CTP.

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Star Wars 2 XPD

i know this is kinda late but does anyone actually have the xpd recode on their pc still ? i need a good vcd version of this movie and id be greateful if anyone can help me out