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-- Cold Mountain - SCREENER - TDi (http://www.vcdhq.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=32665)
from sample widescreen as all these academy screeners are picture seems ok not a first gen copy, but still good enough. Audio was pretty damn decent tho...i'd say 7/8/? maybe watch this over the weekend
Props on the Speed - hmm Not bad for a VHS Screener. Colors werent too sharp , widescreen as said which took the pixelation down a bit. This sounds ok , not great but its definatly watchable.
*shrug* guess someone was proud of their VHS Screener. Anyway Still havent seen this movie so gonna pick this up.
7/5/?
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Oh yeah, this is a keeper. I'll probably be watching this for tonight.
Video: Widescreen, pixelisation, not that grainy. Most likely a 2nd gen dub, but I could be wrong. 8
Audio: Pretty damn schweet. No complaints, not that loud. 9.
Movie: Looks pretty damn Oscar worthy. ?
For the fucking love of G-d, make these screeners SVCD, they deserve it, they cry for it.
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Originally posted by Liife
For the fucking love of G-d, make these screeners SVCD, they deserve it, they cry for it.
Grabbed the sample thought it was awful picture IMHO
Vid7 Sound9 Film im going to watch it all tonight...
Vhs screener not the best qual for picture but ok.. better than anything else around... hope im not sounding ungratefull as im not.... Thank you TDI keep it up....more more more more...
looks cropped, or at most a nasty as fuck AR. pretty poor picture quality too. the audio sounds like your listening to it through a wall with a glass held against your ear.
6/5/X
Shity, Shity, Shity, that is what explains this release.
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6.5/8
Vid has some pixelation and the AR is kinda weird. Still a decent screener. Sound is pretty good IMO.
Thanks TDi.
TY TDi
Thankyou for the Screener, Ive been wanting to see this for along time, so I paid for it last night :P
Heh great movie. Must see.
8/8/8
perfect 8 
Firefighter nice bootleg :P
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Gah people need to stop getting second generation tapes. The quality on the first gen doesnt seem to be worth shit so why would they think using a copy to make a digitalized version would be a good idea? Also VHS needs to be converted to CVD because VHS clearly looks as tho if it where digital the bitrate would be somewhere around 1500-1600.
the sound on this release is non existant - turn speakers up full & fou can hear some wave spikes thats about it - c'mon guys - whats happened there !!!!
no sound !!!!!
From Sample: decient picture, good sound, so 8/8/?
havent watched the movie yet tho.
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Originally posted by Clessy
Gah people need to stop getting second generation tapes.
On one of my pc`s i had great sound on the other one i had hardly any sound at all..... anyone else find this....
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Originally posted by m0rpheus
the sound on this release is non existant - turn speakers up full & fou can hear some wave spikes thats about it - c'mon guys - whats happened there !!!!
no sound !!!!!
why are some ppl saying good quality and other saying shitty this is useless to read these comments ... also mystic sleepers that sometimes *many times?* post comments after viewing the damn sample. fuck that.
Ok.. this is just too werid because when I play this release on my comp the sound is not too bad, when i take it out to the stand alone (connected to a reciever, not an rf swith?) the sound is way quiet and sounds like shite. The video definitelly tends towards pixelation, colors are pretty washed out.
6/7(when it works right)/8
ok but not great
This screener is ok..its better than the telesync's but its really poor..compared to the obus releases and tcf. Don't know where the source came from the video is grainy..and poor..
the sound is off..more out the right than the left..but loud..
rating from cd1
video 5...its pretty bad for a screener..
audio 6..its clear but just out of one side. other side real light
overall the movie is actually good..just need a better release to enjoy it..
screeners in SVCD suck rocks, kids...CVD is the method of choice.
this is nothing like a TCF or OBUS screener, but watchable nonetheless. definately not a keeper. this one's a mount/watch/delete release. sounds fine on my PC.
6/8/?
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ive got a theory with the sound but not tested ......
maybe it has been recorded (somehow) only on the rear speakers e.g. in a 5.1 setup if you know what i mean...
cause when i turn speakers up full sounds like a line input with no amp
In all my years of film downloading i have never come across this.
It sounds great on one of my pcs not the other 2. Ive no sound on my dvd player and tv downstairs but on the one in my bedroom it sounds good. In tmpgenc it comes up as no sound...
DK- why are some ppl saying good quality and other saying shitty this is useless to read these comments ... also mystic sleepers that sometimes *many times?* post comments after viewing the damn sample. fuck that.
yeah that was constructive... its not useless it just means its not working on all setups so take a chance if you want... or wait
If I switch the pro-logic off on my tv then i have sound if i switch it back on it mutes it...
cold mountain
The sound seems to be on the rear speakers in prologic mode
but is ok in 3d mode..
also halfway into the second disc, the sound goes outta sync
and seem to sync back up everytime Ren'ee Zelweger
enters the scene??
wierd stuff man
film rating:
sound -7
video -6
film -4 (godamm boring)
props for the early release guys
but hey A QUALITY SCREENER its not..
Yeah straight stereo sound is ok on my TV......through my Amp is shyte also.......weird.
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alright, I'll post my 2 cents ...
the video is alright for a vhs screener, and a note for groups who actually read these forums, please keep vhs screeners in VCD, and dvd scr in SVCD, it seems to work best that way.
the sound was weird, not sure how it was done, but on my pc it was all good, kind muffled, but if you reset the speakers right, it was watchable ... the fiancee' got home and wanted to peep, so I put it in the standalone and you couldn't hear shit, no matter if it was on full blast or what ... not sure how that happens ...
the movie is good, glad I burned on cd-rw to watch on the standalone, the dvdr will be much better, patience is a virtue!
/end rant
Video - 5
Audio - 2
Movie - 8
They really messed up the sound bad on this one. You can't hear anything when playing it on a stand-alone player.
quote:No I guess not. However if they know the people with the first gen tapes why not just borrow them and rip from that instead of getting a second gen tape?
Originally posted by kennyg_uk
Do you think the groups really have any choice as to which generation tapes they get supplied with?
quote:I think your coment on the VHS > VCD is bullshit. Like i said VHS needs at least a 1500-1600 bitrate to capture its quality and VCD only allows 1150. However if you use 5 pass encoding that looks ok at 1150 but 5 pass at 1600 and a nice smoother filter would insure a nice image that is worthly of using SVCD. CVD is still the more partical choice for VHS tapes.
Originally posted by crackerjax
alright, I'll post my 2 cents ...
the video is alright for a vhs screener, and a note for groups who actually read these forums, please keep vhs screeners in VCD, and dvd scr in SVCD, it seems to work best that way.
the sound was weird, not sure how it was done, but on my pc it was all good, kind muffled, but if you reset the speakers right, it was watchable ... the fiancee' got home and wanted to peep, so I put it in the standalone and you couldn't hear shit, no matter if it was on full blast or what ... not sure how that happens ...
the movie is good, glad I burned on cd-rw to watch on the standalone, the dvdr will be much better, patience is a virtue!
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FACE IT CVD WILL NEVER BE USED
On the release, I just finished watching it with my family and the little audio bug threw me for a loop in the begining and we just watched it in plain ole stereo...sounded decent but it wasn't anything great. Little or no distortion on the audio though it wasn't as sharp as it could have been.
The video wasn't any great, like its been said. It was highly grainy and lacked any real detail. Colors were washed out and I think it was slightly cropped too.
Movie was absolute shit. I can't believe you can make so many movies like this...seriously, some boring stuff... at being just under 2 and 1/2 hours, I found myself very restless and not entertained. If I wasn't sick, I probably would have fallen asleep. Plot was repetitive and predictable...this better not win ANY academy awards.
6/7/4
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Originally posted by dk-
why are some ppl saying good quality and other saying shitty
question
I have a bit of a dilemma, my family wants to watch this movie and I said that I would get it for them, but you see after watching some scenes I noticed that it has some pretty decent nudity in it which is a little pro longed. Watching pro longed nudity with my family feels weird, so what is your opinion, should I burn the 2 cd’s and say I have the movie, or should I say that the audio is horrible on the release, so I say we wait until a better version comes out like a DVD-rip. I need some opinions fast like ASAP.
Thanks in advance.
Re: question
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Originally posted by Red0ut
I have a bit of a dilemma, my family wants to watch this movie and I said that I would get it for them, but you see after watching some scenes I noticed that it has some pretty decent nudity in it which is a little pro longed. Watching pro longed nudity with my family feels weird, so what is your opinion, should I burn the 2 cd’s and say I have the movie, or should I say that the audio is horrible on the release, so I say we wait until a better version comes out like a DVD-rip. I need some opinions fast like ASAP.
Thanks in advance.
cvd??
why you peeps keep going on about using cvd, its not going to happen, its not compatible with a number of standalones, release groups have rules to stick to if they want their release to be not nuked first rule in the book ,movies must be VCD or SVCD compliant , nowhere des it say CVD cus its shit - this is crap rls i would rather watch the ts.
Vid 7 Once I turned up the colour on my tv, it was more than acceptable.
Aud 7
Movie ?? Haven't finished watching it yet.
I didn't experience any of the audio probs that any of the above posters seemed to suffer. Played absolutely fine, with full audio, on my standalone and tv!
Enough of the complaints
This is one of my very few comments due to the fact that by the time I actually have time to sit down and watch a movie, there are already a multitude of replies similar to that which I would have posted. It is with suppressed outrage that I speak negative of the posts reguarding this release. I finished watching the entire release on my dvd player and was amazed at the fact it was not a DVD I had been watching.
1. On the "complaints" of pixalation, spend the 27 cents and burn the release to cd-r; this will get rid of your pixalation more likely than not, caused by your vcdgear or similar app.
2. As for the sound only playing on the rear speakers, refer to "1" above and let your dvd player or receiver take care of that.
3. As for the "CVD" outcries, get a camera and make your own CVD, but dont sit back and critisize others for there accomplishments.
4.It is also with a heavy spirit that I make others aware that the provider of the screener will most likely not be sending anymore rips. If you burn the release and watch it closely, you will see at time 29:22 of CD-2 a series of six yellow markers located just below the shack windows. I believe these to be a new method of tracking screeners that manage to get leaked into the warez scene.
To sum myself up; stop complaining, place fault ony where it lies, play safe, and most important of all, cover your ass.
GhostX
On my PC, the sound sucks when playing with WMP9, Zoom and in Stereo 2 speaker mode within PowerDVD Player. Changing it to DirectSound3D or TruSurroundXT, the sound is pretty good and I'd rate it an 8.
Actually, I was able to repack with minimal effort. Demultiplex in Tmpgenc, Winamp (MP2-->raw WAV) with DFX audio processor enabled, Besweet it back (WAV-->MP2) and multiplex back with the original video.
So I'd overall rate this the following:
Original: 7, 3, 9
Repack: 7, 9, 9
Synchron.
wondering if anyone noticed the little dotted backward L shape about 13 mins and 20 secs into the film,lol,identifaction tag or wot
any as far as screeners go ive seen better put overall
7/7/7
but tmpgenc can sort it out good style
lol
Hmm yep tis true bout the audio really strange put it on my 6.1 setup and centre rear and surround rear sound real sweet ive also got a little audio from front left but nothing from front right or centre.
I even put it through tmpgenc and it was still the same ....guess ill watch it in stereo *sob*
Shame for the F#%k up on sound Tdi - But now i've converted the sound This release is soooooo sweeeeeet - props for release, bad luck about wrong encode on sound
Here's how i done it -
de-muxed the sound out using mpeg tools on tmpeg
converted the .mp2 file to .wav
used the channel converter in sound forge to put the channels back to how they should be
then saved it back as an mp3
& muxed files back with tmpeg
release is now 100% Gooood ...... i'm happy - thx Tdi
quote:Because other groups do everything for free and do a better job. It's not complaining it's being truthfull. The release sucks. Ok I mean if I gave you a cd that sucks you wouldnt be saying ohh well its was free and its the thought that counts you'd be saying good this sucks and what a waste it was. This was a waste of a screener. Better luck next time is all you can say.
Originally posted by qubit
Some people have good equipment and some people don't. That's all I can figure. Why is anyone complaining when it's free???
Re: Enough of the complaints
quote:Proving you're states of a moronic noobie I see. If you couldnt tell the diffence between this and a DVD you're a idiot. Saying CVD is crap and only the quality of a cam is moronic too. VCD is what is a pos. The bitrate is low and so it the resolution. CVD has higher resolution than VCD and has the same Bitrate as SVCD. Also CVD is complient with DVD standards meaning you can rip the mpgs right off the disk and burn both CD or however many there are right on a DVD and have yourself a working DVD. In no way is VCD better at all. SVCD only beats CVD in resolution. VCD should die and there should ethier be CVD or SVCD release. Thx and stfu when you dont know what you're talking about from now on.
Originally posted by Ghostx
This is one of my very few comments due to the fact that by the time I actually have time to sit down and watch a movie, there are already a multitude of replies similar to that which I would have posted. It is with suppressed outrage that I speak negative of the posts reguarding this release. I finished watching the entire release on my dvd player and was amazed at the fact it was not a DVD I had been watching.
1. On the "complaints" of pixalation, spend the 27 cents and burn the release to cd-r; this will get rid of your pixalation more likely than not, caused by your vcdgear or similar app.
2. As for the sound only playing on the rear speakers, refer to "1" above and let your dvd player or receiver take care of that.
3. As for the "CVD" outcries, get a camera and make your own CVD, but dont sit back and critisize others for there accomplishments.
4.It is also with a heavy spirit that I make others aware that the provider of the screener will most likely not be sending anymore rips. If you burn the release and watch it closely, you will see at time 29:22 of CD-2 a series of six yellow markers located just below the shack windows. I believe these to be a new method of tracking screeners that manage to get leaked into the warez scene.
To sum myself up; stop complaining, place fault ony where it lies, play safe, and most important of all, cover your ass.
GhostX
*NUKED* NO SOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just watched this and it was a really good movie. Picture quality was good considering its a VHS screener. Good sound also.
7.5/7.5/8.0
Re: Re: Enough of the complaints
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Originally posted by Clessy
Proving you're states of a moronic noobie I see. If you couldnt tell the diffence between this and a DVD you're a idiot. Saying CVD is crap and only the quality of a cam is moronic too. VCD is what is a pos. The bitrate is low and so it the resolution. CVD has higher resolution than VCD and has the same Bitrate as SVCD. Also CVD is complient with DVD standards meaning you can rip the mpgs right off the disk and burn both CD or however many there are right on a DVD and have yourself a working DVD. In no way is VCD better at all. SVCD only beats CVD in resolution. VCD should die and there should ethier be CVD or SVCD release. Thx and stfu when you dont know what you're talking about from now on.
Re: Re: Re: Enough of the complaints
and if you dont like vcds that much get out of this forum for vcds duh :?
Thank you revolution-x. I was hoping somebody with an IQ above that of the number of posts they have, would comment about my post and support my opinion. Seems nowdays, buliten baords have turned into little more than places to publicly critisize others on their opinions and productions.
I also would like to add to my previous post, "Mad Props out to TDI on their outstanding release."
Pretty damn poor for a screener. Blurry and washed out on my standalone and 50" Plasma. Tried all the fancy contols and AR's , but nothing helps. Watched quite a few telesyncs lately that had much better video.
The audio while screwed going to the speakers can be fixed experimenting with your home theatre's sound fields. Mono would be my first choice.
Can't believe we're waiting so long for a decent release of this movie.
I guess we can thank Jack Valente of the screen actors guild for all these crappy Academy Award VHS's. I read somewhere they weren't going to use DVD's this year to purposely lower the quality of them on internet. Don't know if it's true or not, but considering he wanted to stop AA screeners altogether, but couldn't, thanks to the Independent film makers taking him to court, I guess it could be true.
6/6/7
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Originally posted by C0G0N3
*NUKED* NO SOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just watched this, video was good, audio worked fine without problems on my standalone (dunno why others were having trouble with it), didn't really like the movie though, while there were a few good parts, my attention often wandered.
7/8/6
quote:You dip shit you didnt even read my post correctly. And to your other thing asking why i'm here is because this site also covers SVCD which is a very good format.
Originally posted by thetruecritic
Just watched this and it was a really good movie. Picture quality was good considering its a VHS screener. Good sound also.
7.5/7.5/8.0
I agree....
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Originally posted by C0G0N3
*NUKED* NO SOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!
quote:
Originally posted by Clessy
You dip shit you didnt even read my post correctly. And to your other thing asking why i'm here is because this site also covers SVCD which is a very good format.
i burned this and watched on my tv - not bad at all i was expecting God only knows what on the audio - maybe some of these posts have more meaning other than rating the movie quality - you know how politics slip through everything and anything these days *fucking little peckers*
i think the video is more of a concern than the audio - blurred
audio 7
video 6
movie 6
Can anyone tell me what specific settings to use in sound forge channel edit to fix the audio?
I just can't understand why the vhs screeners can't be SVCD instead of VCD. Good movie though, sound it a little low in parts. 7/6/8.5
The quality of the video would be better if these screeners where SVCD....but I'll take these copies anyday of the week. Loving every min of this. I love this time of the year ...all the screeners...not many dvd screeners as of yet. Still hoping for a LOTR's DVD screener. But, back to this movie. Video was a little blurry, but I'll still give it a 7.0...audio was good 7.0....movie was excellent ....9.0.
Alright screener, not the best... I really liked this movie though.
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no audio
I found this had no audio, merely the sound of an aquarium in the background. Yet I don't see anyone else posting this, confuses me.
sound - 7
video - 7
movie - 7
liked the war scenes, rest is boring
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Originally posted by qubit
Some people have good equipment and some people don't. That's all I can figure. Why is anyone complaining when it's free???
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this film really wasn't that bad..I loved it..nice western war pic with a little love..Don't care too much for Nicole Kidman though..
6/7/7
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Impossible for me to watch on my standalone (for the 1st time)
even recoded the audio and merged it with TMPG - no chance
Video 7
Audio 7
Movie ?
ocme on guys get us a damn dvd of this movie 
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