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Still the wrong aspect ratio!!! This movie is NOT 16:9 it is 2.35:1!

Besides from that (since adjusting AR on the computer is quick) video looks a bit cleaned up, less dark, but still lacking that "something", it's also a tad bit pixely.

I still prefer the workprint ViSA version with the AR correctly adjusted, looks much better than these "telecine" re-encodes being released as dvdrips.

Audio is pretty spot on though.

Video: 7
Audio: 8
Movie: 5

-Derek-

this is no telecine, its the source from which the divx came.

Great job!

8/9/9

is the audio 5.1?

The aspect ratio is easy to explain.. it's the same anamorphic widescreen that all DVDs are encoded in. Whoever encoded this one simply forgot to change it. It will probably be Nuked as a result, but possible someone else will Proper it if they can acquire the source, or perhaps use this DVDR to create SVCD or a proper XviD.

I take it this DVD is the same source as the independent XviD?

How is the audio on it?

apparently this is 2.0 audio.

Its the same AC3 2 channel as on the xvid. Also appears that their Avisynth script or whatnot had the wrong AR settings. With all these EPIII buggered up re-encodes (that we all have access to the source) I say just do it your self.

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it's also a tad bit pixely.

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Originally posted by hoozdapimp
is the audio 5.1?

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is this some weird joke... cause i dont get it

2 channel audio dvdrip?

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is this some weird joke... cause i dont get it

2 channel audio dvdrip?

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Is this really the source or just a re-encode of the XviD with menus? I've grabbed a couple of "internal" releases like that so just wondering if this is the real source before I waste more bandwith.

This looks better than those Re-Encodes that have been floating about, its still not perfect, but thats hardly surprising.

The AR is fine on this, the pic on here is just wrong, this is a 16:9 Anamorphic DVD like every other DVD, and will play fine regardless of your TV, make sure you have Keep Aspect Ratio ticked if your playing it in something like PowerDVD.

Audio sounds better, but i havent heard the whole thing yet.

8/8/9

this movie hardly hit the pictures when a good copy was released. i take my hat off to all the groups who take the risk for us to view in our own homes and we should be VERY gratefull for this.I'm sure George will have more to moan about than the picture being a tad pixilated at bits/wrong aspect ratio etc etc.

lets stop moaning about trivial things of these releases or if not happy.............you can always PAY to see it.


GREAT RELEASE!!!

beats a cam ...........any day!!!!

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I saw this on another forum;

Hmm....also this is missing the last 5 minutes or so of the movie.

iND xvid/KKi DVDR --> 2:13:42
iND DVDR --> 2:08:30 (ends right before vader gets his famous noooo line)



Can anyone confirm that?

makes me wonder if this is from the same source as the xvid version because if it is why has it got missing scenes at the end of the movie and the xvid version does not.

Er crap ..the ending IS missing on this release I just checked. Damn good quality otherwise.

hmmmmm....the entire movie is on my copy....all the way until the credits where it just says written and directed by george lucas, and then stops.

8.5/8.5/10!!!

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Originally posted by jrw
Er crap ..the ending IS missing on this release I just checked. Damn good quality otherwise.

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STARWARS

IVE HAD A COPY OF THIS FOR A DAY OR SO NOW AND MINE HAS GOT THE
ENDING ON IT HAS A MENU ASWELL CAN ANYONE CONFIRM WETHER THIS RLS HAS A MENU ON IT

VIDEO 9.5
AUDIO 9.5

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Originally posted by manchester
IVE HAD A COPY OF THIS FOR A DAY OR SO NOW AND MINE HAS GOT THE
ENDING ON IT HAS A MENU ASWELL CAN ANYONE CONFIRM WETHER THIS RLS HAS A MENU ON IT

VIDEO 9.5
AUDIO 9.5

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Mine has menus as well. and the ending is not cut off. Just the credits.

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Originally posted by Wanderer22
First off, WHY ARE YOU YELLING?

Secondly... if you have the thing, why are you asking if it has menus? Shouldn't you already know if it has menus?

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Originally posted by manchester
FIRST IAM NOT YELLING

SECOND I WAS ASKING WETHER THE IND RLS HAD A MENU

THIRD MINE HAS A MENU AND ITS THE [DVDR-KKi] RLS
SO IT WAS A SIMPLE QUESTION SO WHY SPIT YOUR DUMMY OUT

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How can anybody moan about this rls what more can you ask for it has a menu and the full film quality was quite good and you will never get a retail quality copy so soon for such a big film. Thanks to all who go above and beyond to get us rls so quickly

let the Mayhem begin

I grabbed this. I'm pretty sure it's just another re-encode of the XviD release that someone slapped a basic menu on (just one "play" button).

As a final death blow to this crap release, it is missing the ending. This is not an authoring issue. Loading the final VOB file into an editor such as MPEGVCR reveals that the last couple of minutes are completely missing.

My best guess is that someone fed the XviD release into a standalone DVD recorder to create this. They probably used the 2-hour record mode and that's why it is cut off.

The KKi release has equal picture quality, audio in the proper channels, better menu (chapters, etc.), and English subtitles. I'll stick to that until the real source is released.

And, for the record, iND is not a group. That means it's an "independent" release. And I'm not suprised no one wants to claim it.

STAR WARS Episode III DVD-R

The DVD-R that I downloaded is complete except for the credits.
The Main Menu has a picture of a portion (1/2) of Darth Vader on the left and is titled (of course) STAR WARS ESPISODE III REVENGE OF THE SITH. It has four chapter screens.

Great looking release!

this was a not needed release i think i anyone who knows their ass from a hole in the ground can convert the xvid to dvdr no need

also its bright and not as colorful as the xvid ..should of used CCE

7/8/10 movie rocked

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i think some people may be confusing the releases here. this forum is for the ind release as far as i can tell and it is missing the end of the movie after the darth NOOOOOOO scene. this IS NOT a discussion for the KKI release that is floating around and which is complete. as for this particular release...

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yo its a alright release, hopefully they release the real source, or get a better quality version..

my best guess is that whoever encoded this release probably used DVD2SVCD (using DVD 2 DVD mode), used 1 pass VBR and it got slightly oversized....results in 1 big 4gb+ mpg file and another smaller mpg file that they didn't see and just authored with the big mpg file....of course that's a stretch :P

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Originally posted by xiaNaix
And, for the record, iND is not a group. That means it's an "independent" release. And I'm not suprised no one wants to claim it.

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when was the kki version released?i can't seem to fing the .nfo anywhere

Graham

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Originally posted by graham23s
when was the kki version released?i can't seem to fing the .nfo anywhere

Graham

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Re: STAR WARS Episode III DVD-R

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Originally posted by ATS
The DVD-R that I downloaded is complete except for the credits.
The Main Menu has a picture of a portion (1/2) of Darth Vader on the left and is titled (of course) STAR WARS ESPISODE III REVENGE OF THE SITH. It has four chapter screens.

Great looking release!

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Finally finished downloading.. that was a waste of bandwidth. The copy itself is wonderful, this isn't a re-encode of the XviD (certain compression artifacts I noticed in the XviD are missing here).. but it is missing the end of the movie... that seems somewhat asenine to me.

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This is a re-encode... I just can't tell what it's a re-encode OF..

It's not a re-encode of the XviD, although I think this may have been the Source of the XviD. It has the same flickering here and there, but not the compression artifacts and bleedover that the XviD had.

I picked this version up so as to have a higher resolution source to make my own SVCDs out of. Although it was worthless because of the missing footage, I took a gander at it in TMPEGEnc anyway, in IVTC, to see if I could determine where the flickering was coming from. Looks like it had been de-interlaced at some point (badly), then re-interlaced for the DVD.

So now that we have that out of the way, does anyone know where the ACTUAL source is? What's this KKI release? Another re-encode? Same flickering?

great work another classic

I got this release a few days ago, the jpg really does a bad job at showing the quality.

video 9 - some glitches, i think to keep in sync.

audio 6.8 - alot of the louder parts would not sound clean and crisp but raspy and muffled.

Movie 9.5 - blockbuster

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Originally posted by Wanderer22
So now that we have that out of the way, does anyone know where the ACTUAL source is? What's this KKI release? Another re-encode? Same flickering?

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Originally posted by Wanderer22
This is a re-encode... I just can't tell what it's a re-encode OF..

It's not a re-encode of the XviD, although I think this may have been the Source of the XviD. It has the same flickering here and there, but not the compression artifacts and bleedover that the XviD had.

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Well, I ended up finding an SVCD re-encode of the XviD, that I'll be downloading tonight. That should hold me over. It won't be perfect, but probably better than I could have re-encoded it myself.

Ah, well. Shit happens.

Hey, look on the bright side.. under normal circumstances, we wouldn't have had a copy this good for a few more months.

KKi seems like it will be good enough until retail or at least something with 5.1 sound.

not sure what dvd everyone got but mines has no menu and it has an ending it stops at written and directed by george lucas



9/9/10

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Originally posted by eastpointvet
not sure what dvd everyone got but mines has no menu and it has an ending it stops at written and directed by george lucas



9/9/10

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First off, to all those who 'are sure this is just a reencode of the xvid', its not. This release and the xvid posted here on vcdq were both pred by the same group, but with no grouptag and without their usual style nfo. Im guessing they want to minimize heat for both them and their source (which is also why it is posted without that group name and i guess i really should tell this on a forum but i need to proove a point against the knowitalls .
It is not, i repeat not, an "iND" release.
There are other 'dvdr' releases (i saw only one and it stated in the nfo that the source was the xvid) that get around with a -internal tag, dont confuse it with this.

Secondly, this indeed does have a menu and it does end abruptly at the 'Nooooo' scene iwth uncle vader. I dont know why their dvdr is lacking what their xvid had :\

And to get to the point, it looks fooking great.
Great early release. Rated as well, kind of a mix of tc and dvdscr
9/9/7


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There's another reencode of the xvid that's been released by adywan.

It's in PAL format and has really nice full motion menu with sound.
His release has the full ending credits too.

adywan also fixed the sound distortion and reverse audio. Alot nicer than kki's release.

ive seen the adywan PAL release and it's no better than kki and the kki's menu is awesome. kki also fixed the audio channel issue. no need to get the adywan if you have kki.

The Adywan version will hold you over until the retail comes out.

adywan's version is nice but it has some spelling errors in the menu, it has a pretty neat menu, r2d2 on it, but i like the kki release menu alot better

anyway back on topic-
video- 9 (very good)
audio- 7 (channels swapped)
movie- 8

ending was missing, as many know, and the audio is still not correct

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Originally posted by whitehat
First off, to all those who 'are sure this is just a reencode of the xvid', its not. This release and the xvid posted here on vcdq were both pred by the same group, but with no grouptag and without their usual style nfo. Im guessing they want to minimize heat for both them and their source (which is also why it is posted without that group name and i guess i really should tell this on a forum but i need to proove a point against the knowitalls .
It is not, i repeat not, an "iND" release.
There are other 'dvdr' releases (i saw only one and it stated in the nfo that the source was the xvid) that get around with a -internal tag, dont confuse it with this.

Secondly, this indeed does have a menu and it does end abruptly at the 'Nooooo' scene iwth uncle vader. I dont know why their dvdr is lacking what their xvid had :\

And to get to the point, it looks fooking great.
Great early release. Rated as well, kind of a mix of tc and dvdscr
9/9/7


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Just to clear this up ..

There is more than 1 DVD-R release to cover this source .. (I grabbed the 1st one that ended at the 'Nooooo' scene w/ Darth) ..

I'm now getting the KKI release (didn't get to check the menu / subs, but i viewed the last .rar file and the movie ends as soon as the credits start .. so u most likely see darth's scene lol) ..

following will be edited after viewing this full release:

video - 8 / 10 (best looking of all the releases ... AND in NTSC)

audio - 9 / 10 - no more bass clipping like the workprint .. audio channel issue seems to be fixed in this release

movie - 9/10 - movie STILL rocks lol

even though it's a re-encode to a DVDR which people may deem worthless or whatever .. i applaud the efforts in trying to make a good release (fixing the xvid ..) .. i probably won't burn this .. but will watch it lol. I'm just waiting to see a DVDR w/ DD5.1 for this release (probably won't til retail) .. but that would be pretty sweet

Buddha2oo5

everyone keeps discussing 3rd party internal re-encodez of the iND XviD.

this thread iz supposed to discuss...
Star Wars Episode III Revenge of the Sith INTERNAL NTSC DVDR - DVDRIP - iND

it iz from the same group az the XviD release. if it iz somehow encoded from the XviD, then where the hell did the XviD version come from? thin air? both come from the same source but one doez not come from the other.

yes this iND DVDR haz the ending screwed up, prolly the result of a rush job, but oh well. grab one of the umpteen million other releasez or recodez out there.

a lot of new people popping into the scene with ROTS hitting. i myself usually keep quiet around here, but have been around for some time in my own little placez. i just couldn't keep quiet any longer here with all of these misconceptionz flying around.

/me shakes me head

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for the record form what i can see theres 2 Ind versions of this floating around.. theres one that is labeled Star.Wars.Revenge.oif.the.sith.internal.dvdr and another that says star.wars.episode.3.revenge.of.the.sith.ntsc.internal.dvdr which came out a few days later. The one that is labeled episode 3 ntsc clearly looks alot better. having only seen samples of both of them i cant verify which one is missing the last 10 mins or whatever. but i can verify that the one that says ntsc episode 3 was rls by the same ppl who did the xvid dvdrip meaning it came from source.. my guess is the first one was simply a recode...hope this helps

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not sure what dvd everyone got but mines has no menu and it has an ending it stops at written and directed by george lucas



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adywan is making a NTSC release within the next few days. He will be fixing the spelling errors in the menu also. His release is by far the best till retail since it has the complete ending including the credits.

whos adywan?and it must be the TC russian source i take it if he's got all the credits?

Graham

A nice dvdr i d/l a few days back is a german release.

this release is ntsc with german and english audio, the german audio aint fantastic but the english audio seems fine with no hissing or major defects, though i suspect the channels are reversed like the xvid.

there is a motion menu with chapter/audio selections.

this copy ends when the film fades and George Lucas appears on screen(like the Xvid copy)

After d/l several versions including the xvid i would say that this dvdr might be where the xvid came from as the picture quality seems sharper.

this version was listed as a dvdscr and it was called - sw3-afa

video 9+

audio 9

movie 9

why'd vcdquality give it a 5.0 on video...?

Compared to the other Episodes III's it looks really good, for a DVD-R it doesnt look great, but not a 5.

Check the NFO before voting!

Before anybody else posts, let's clear something up: if the NFO file posted here doesn't match the one that came with the version you have, it isn't the same version!! Check the NFO first!! There are no less than three separate versions with no release group tag floating around the internet, so it's hard to tell what's what. The NFO file is the best way to make sure.

Additionally, if your copy is "centered", with black bars around all sides, you don't have this version. Similarly, if the sound is reversed, you don't have this version either.

This looks like a really good re-encode of the XviD, as picture looks like it's missing some lines (due to the slightly lower XviD resolution).

It really does look like a standalone-DVD recorder job because it reminds me so much of a LaserDisc rip.

Plus it sounds really really good .

8/9/8

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I'm telling you guys, that I saw this movie being played at this one burger king near where I live.

I think that's the source.

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My version has the Darth Vader menu screen and is complete, stopping at the beginning of the end credits. It's from KKI and is an excellent release.

9/8/8

This is what it says toward the bottom of the NFO:
-no bloody credits no real reason...
-didn't use the new iND dvdr source for video becuase it was
nuked for blocky video and whatnot. i did a side by side
comparison and the video on the xvid is less blocky then the
dvdr source becuase the iND dvdr people used a shit
compression to do the dvdr conversion. so even thoe its a
less sharper image then the iND dvdr you won't notice it on a
tv, so there for useless. also didn't feel like muxing in the
last 5 missing minutes on the iND dvdr release and fucking up
the audio or chancing doing so.
-didn't bother fixing the clipping issues on the audio, can't
truly fix what isn't there.

notes..
-there was a version of this posted via newsgroups, but we felt
this newly edited version deserved more.
-my menus own you
-enjoy, you will.

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Originally posted by Ripper
IND is a courier group mate and they occasionally "find" releases that no one has bothered to release as well as a few fixes for dvdr retails now and again.
I'm happy with the kki release till the retail comes out

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