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Posted by schusta on 09-15-2002 04:58 PM:

picture looks crappy, but maybe it's just the stills. Atleast it looks a lot better than A-teams.


Posted by Swimj on 09-15-2002 04:58 PM:

HOLY SHIT

THIS IS THE WORST SAMPLE I HAVE EVER SEEN!


Posted by DaRazMan on 09-15-2002 05:05 PM:

Thumbs down

Horrible Video, the sound was bearable though, not saying it was good...... but bearable. I was interested to see what FTF had done when i saw it was an SVCD release... *shivers*


Posted by hoozdapimp on 09-15-2002 05:11 PM:

ok ftf...i haven't even seen the sample yet, but im gonna post anyways...

you guys were on a roll! why'd you have to go and ruin your streak with this? there are very very few times when a release can justify needing an svcd for a ts....
face it, you're not c-entropy, but you were doing a good job before this...now unless vcdq just totally fucked up your movie with the jpg's i don't see why you would release this in svcd.


Posted by portal on 09-15-2002 05:19 PM:

FTF lamers

jeez.. ftf are so lame they mislabeled this rls so they dont get nuked for DUPE. they cant face the fact that they suck .. and for all you that think i dont contribute ur very very wrong flame me all you want ..


Posted by THE_DREAM on 09-15-2002 05:35 PM:

hey ftf im not here to bash u guys i dont think it was an good idea to rls an svcd of this movie, the a-team version looks better should of left it alone. If u had a better quality I mean a better version than A-team and then i can understand ftf Y???????????/

3/3/8


Posted by rappa on 09-15-2002 05:38 PM:

omg wow u fucking guys r stupid...cant u see this was a test release, god fucking retards..heh watch ull be sucking there dicks soon just like u did to u know who.

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Posted by PhreakerX on 09-15-2002 05:38 PM:

you bastards whine that there are not enough svcds, well heres your prize. whining gets you into trouble

quote:
ok ftf...i haven't even seen the sample yet, but im gonna post anyways...

its not as bad as you guys are saying, dont judge jpegs

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Posted by kasper on 09-15-2002 05:45 PM:

dosnt look so hot..but i guess the jpegs and ratings speak are about right.


Posted by ^Om3n on 09-15-2002 05:49 PM:

Yes, dont judge jpegs, coz they look terrible

Couldn't help it, they really do look terrible, sure hope they dont represent the release accuratly.

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Posted by kasper on 09-15-2002 05:49 PM:

disappointed

-takes dj and bud's side..learn to rip..


Posted by THE_DREAM on 09-15-2002 05:53 PM:

well im going to change my vote to 5/6/8. now i'll vote


Posted by Beaver35 on 09-15-2002 05:58 PM:

Thumbs down Mislabled???

This could not be a SVCD. The picutre is worst than A-Teams..
Think it looks like a recode from the other rsl..Please try again....


Posted by MoNoXiDe on 09-15-2002 06:04 PM:

Re: Mislabled???

quote:
Originally posted by Beaver35
This could not be a SVCD. The picutre is worst than A-Teams..
Think it looks like a recode from the other rsl..Please try again....



Hey dumbass listin to Rappa... He knows what he's talking about... and this is NOT a re-encode man! Next time watch the release then post your comment!!!


Posted by K-FurY on 09-15-2002 06:11 PM:

Re: Mislabled???

quote:
Originally posted by Beaver35
This could not be a SVCD. The picutre is worst than A-Teams..
Think it looks like a recode from the other rsl..Please try again....


SVCD is just a format. It doesnt matter how good the quality is, just because something is svcd, doesnt mean its gonna be dvd quality.


Posted by crapper on 09-15-2002 06:21 PM:

svcd wasnt the a good idea.. the release doesnt need the ectrta quality it still sucks

the ateam is better...

ftf u done some nice releases lately.. dont go back to the old crap


Posted by brr8760 on 09-15-2002 06:39 PM:

The picture quality is better than A-Team's. The sound is okay (about the same). What kills this release is the FRAME RATE-- it's off. I don't know why, but it's not 29.97 (or whatever). I agree that FTF has been on a roll-- and SVCD is a good idea (if it remains two disks)-- but the frame rate of the sample is off just enough to ruin this release. NICE TRY GUYS, THANKS FOR ALL YOUR WORK. Hopefully, Hollywood will give us all something to be excited about one of these months....


Posted by ZIGGYY on 09-15-2002 06:54 PM:

rencode

i have taken both ftf rels and ateams rels and use diffrent video editing s/w vegas video ect and this is just a rencode not to be a asshole or anything but good try FTF can only get better but next time get your own source don't try and rencode a vcd that wasn't good enough for svcd rels in the first place


Posted by djkoolaide on 09-15-2002 07:26 PM:

lol

*no comment*


Posted by devilbeast on 09-15-2002 07:40 PM:

this rlks is fuzzy as fuck, and whoever said its not svcd...your an idiot dont post when you dont know what you are talking about, do some research. Dont get this rls wait for another or grab A-team's


Posted by Scorpion on 09-15-2002 08:19 PM:

It's ok, it's better then A-Teams. I think this would have been fine as a VCD, though.


Posted by stm on 09-15-2002 08:37 PM:

yeah

agreed, picture quality is much better than the a-team release, need to fix the framerate tho.


Posted by }Test{ on 09-15-2002 09:05 PM:

this is just plain bad as the other release. i think ateam and ftf are same group..tryn to break attention off the ftf.. and after they saw the other release they did flop and nuked as useual, they decided to release it as a svcd under the ftf name. if you noticed... both groups have same source and both groups suck really bad. sorry guys.. yall need to get your act together.. and yes.. i can do alot better, before you can even get to say it.


Posted by Dankbuds on 09-15-2002 09:06 PM:

what were you thinking ftf? Lets svcd a shitty source. yay!
and rappa you know dick about dick.I try and stay quiet when you rant and rave but seriously your an idiot.

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Posted by }Test{ on 09-15-2002 09:13 PM:

If im wrong about ftf and ateam being same group... oh well..point is they are both really bad and i honestly dont think even a handfull of these people care whos first on the release. and the people that do are lame anyways if they rather have something thats unwatchable then something that is.
you guys can spend a tad bit of time proper codeing it. there is sites you can read up on how to pack these video right.. learn to cut.crop.color proper as well..


Posted by ZIGGYY on 09-15-2002 09:51 PM:

re-encode -facts

all that FTF did was re-encode of a-team's rels they blurred the pic a bit what this did was make the picture burry and fadded the color a bit all this procedure does is makes it so your can't see the small pixalation that u see on a-teams rel and they did a bit more cropping all this is easyly done with any video editing s/w any that knows anything knows this nice to see svcd being rels but get a good source for it no point making a shit rels from a average vcd rels lol 3/3/7.5 A-teams rels is way more watchable then this one



but to all the rels groups out there keep them coming


Posted by CharlyTuna on 09-15-2002 09:55 PM:

great release, i was waiting for a better release of this, a-teams blew chunks..

thanks ftf, this ones way better. time to seperate the pro's from the amatures


Posted by ewfbootlegga on 09-15-2002 09:59 PM:

crap release. What happened to the colors lol? This thing is blurred and faded. A-teams release wasn't perfect by any standards but this should of never seen the light of day. Don't see how you guys are saying this is way better this thing is blurred to hell and the colors are barely evident.


Posted by m-drew on 09-15-2002 10:26 PM:

I CANT SEE!!!!!!

ITS ALL BLURRY


Posted by M_J on 09-15-2002 10:43 PM:

for Ftf sVCD MEANS shitvcd!

worst crap i ever seen!!

0/0/6


Posted by westside-homie on 09-16-2002 12:07 AM:

LMFAO!! u got that right


Posted by your name here on 09-16-2002 12:19 AM:

well i havent posted here in a long time but anyways this rls is terrible y svcd its so blurry the other rls was bad but this is worse
i myself will not be picking up this or any other rls of this movie cuz i cant stand tom green and ftf u guys were on a roll now u guys killed it o and one more thing whats this bullshit

Don't knock it if its free, if you could do better why are you downloading it
stfu isnt that what we are supposed to do say are opinion on the movie and the quality so stupid ass think before u right something!!!! im out

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Posted by neo_tokyo on 09-16-2002 12:23 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by RaPpA
omg wow u fucking guys r stupid...cant u see this was a test release, god fucking retards..heh watch ull be sucking there dicks soon just like u did to u know who.


i wonder who's teh retard here..
and how do you know this was a test release?
lmao... don't tell me you're from FTF i'll laugh my ass off because you stick to the personality of this lame group.


Posted by ^Om3n on 09-16-2002 12:35 AM:

Ok, at first i was going to post how this is not a re-code, but after looking a little closer i really couldn't rule out the possibility completely, tho i highly doubt it is. However (and im going but whats viewable in the jpgs) it does seem to at least be the same source as A-Team. Look very closely and you can even see the same minor video glitches in both.

Of corse i could be wrong since i have not viewed the entire release. Just my thoughts

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Posted by CharlyTuna on 09-16-2002 12:52 AM:

im about 98% sure its not a re-code

i got no problem with this release, its better then a-teams by far, just like city by the sea, ftf always has that edge over a-team, though these 2 could both be the worse groups in the scene, its fun to watch them battle, a-team always loses to ftf, but that should wake a-team up to fight back harder and release better stuff just to beat ftf.

its like watching the cowboys vs the redskins, 2 bad football teams, but always great games when they battle

good luck to both, but i favor ftf more over the newbie group


Posted by Snowbording4138 on 09-16-2002 01:12 AM:

omg u suck


Posted by ZIGGYY on 09-16-2002 01:13 AM:

Thumbs down more clearly

ok this is 100% a re-encode of ateams rels i used vegas video editor looked at frame to frame and sound forge the sound is identical as i enhanced both and over layed them they match perfect same background noise on both one may be a bit more clear less background noise but its still present and when you graph it there is no diffrence all FTF did with the video is crop all 4 sides of frame they used a blur filter and when u use a blur filter u loose color explains the color lose


Posted by ^Om3n on 09-16-2002 01:21 AM:

I think whats more likely is that A-Team got an azn silver and FTF came across a pDVD. Both made from the same source.

I'd like to think FTF wouldn't grab another groups release and do a recode job on it.

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Posted by CharlyTuna on 09-16-2002 01:38 AM:

its not ftf's style, now if it was a newbie group, then i could see a re-code, but ftf dont have to re-code anyones.

or theres the 2% chance they did, to us, we will never know.

im just grateful for there releases


Posted by Redemption on 09-16-2002 02:04 AM:

Hey your name, i never even posted in this one dickhead, so why bring me into it.

I never said dont comment on the quality, what it means is dont bitch about the quality and say its a waste of time like a lot of people do on here, if everyone stopped doing them, you'd be crying your little sad self to sleep every night.

And what ive saw of this release proves that FTF has went full circle back to how they started, they probably rushed this out cause A-Team beat them, with so many groups its not the quality that matters, its the speed and thats why theres a lot of crap being released right now.

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Posted by CharlyTuna on 09-16-2002 02:08 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Redemption
Hey your name, i never even posted in this one dickhead, so why bring me into it.

I never said dont comment on the quality, what it means is dont bitch about the quality and say its a waste of time like a lot of people do on here, if everyone stopped doing them, you'd be crying your little sad self to sleep every night.

And what ive saw of this release proves that FTF has went full circle back to how they started, they probably rushed this out cause A-Team beat them, with so many groups its not the quality that matters, its the speed and thats why theres a lot of crap being released right now.




i agree, a-team rushed it out and its bad, and ftf took there time and its good

good point btw


Posted by your name here on 09-16-2002 02:24 AM:

quote:
I never said dont comment on the quality, what it means is dont bitch about the quality and say its a waste of time like a lot of people do on here, if everyone stopped doing them, you'd be crying your little sad self to sleep every night.





well ok what u want me to do say the quality is good i have to talk shit or theyll keep bringin shitty ass rls's and im not going to sugercoat anything thats y im saying this. ftf's rls's are a waste of time cuz u no they are and everyone else no's they are to thats y i said it before and ill say it again "ftf stop waisting time and money on these shitty ass rls's you guys are only making yourself's look bad so ftf please stop rlsing shit" so stfu redemption

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Posted by brr8760 on 09-16-2002 02:27 AM:

There is a -0-% chance that FTF took another group's release. Zero. They each got the product from the same source== A-team just beat them to the punch, that's all.

I used to think the scene was about "camcorder and microphone" wars. Now I know that it's about "delivery and encoding" wars. Either way, nobody gets killed, and it's fun to watch.


Posted by digital99 on 09-16-2002 03:03 AM:

I just know that if there are a same release from FTF and A-Team then i'll definitely grab A-Team heh...FTF sux big time...their sh!t are mostly unwatchable. Everyday i've heard enough complaint from people about FTF crap lol


Posted by Redemption on 09-16-2002 03:03 AM:

Its better to have a choice of shit or nothing, rather than just nothing, you dont have to download it, its their money and time to waste, so you STFU.

If it was only high quality stuff released then there would be about 2 a week, i quite like coming on here and checking if theres anything new, even if it is shit

The image on this is better than A-Teams but the frame rate is jerky, its also Pal, which is strange as i doubt the original was Pal, and the audio bitrate is 128k, both of these arent really worth getting, wait for someone else to do it if you want the movie.

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Posted by LEgacy18x on 09-16-2002 03:46 AM:

I watched this on my comp and usually i burn em and watch em on my tv but nontheless i have seen alot worse maybe some of u poeple are to choosy or what not but this didn't look to bad..let's be serious if this had no nfo and no one knew who released shit i bet the ratings would reflect more poeple's opinions on the actual video quality and sound quality as opposed to their bias'd opinions which rarely(fully) reflect ONLY quality.


Posted by dcm386 on 09-16-2002 04:38 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by neo_tokyo
i wonder who's teh retard here..


Time for a new sig!!


Posted by THE_DREAM on 09-16-2002 05:12 AM:

its very obvious that someone is caming the movies thats why we should judge the fast rls accordingly. Im fully aware that we're not going to get paramount or touchstone quality on a fast rls.

Everyone is not going to be like tcf or centrophy it's just not going to happen, esp with these fast rls. Ftf and A-Team happen to be groups that rls movies pretty fast and its obvious they're not forunate to obtain the source tcf does.

I believe ftf and a-team put more work than tcf because they got to cam the movies and encode them, which is contrary to tcf. All tcf got to do is get there clear source and rar it up and thats it not to knock them but thats the truth.


It's good to pass judgement on quality but try to do it accordingly. I just want to give props to a-team and ftf for rsl the newest movies for the viewers although it may not be the best of quality but there fast


MUCH PROPS TO FTF AND A-TEAM

KEEP DOING IT UP AND THE HATERS WILL ALWAYS BE HATERS


Posted by CharlyTuna on 09-16-2002 05:19 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by THE_DREAM
its very obvious that someone is caming the movies thats why we should judge the fast rls accordingly. Im fully aware that we're not going to get paramount or touchstone quality on a fast rls.

Everyone is not going to be like tcf or centrophy it's just not going to happen, esp with these fast rls. Ftf and A-Team happen to be groups that rls movies pretty fast and its obvious they're not forunate to obtain the source tcf does.

I believe ftf and a-team put more work than tcf because they got to cam the movies and encode them, which is contrary to tcf. All tcf got to do is get there clear source and rar it up and thats it not to knock them but thats the truth.


It's good to pass judgement on quality but try to do it accordingly. I just want to give props to a-team and ftf for rsl the newest movies for the viewers although it may not be the best of quality but there fast


MUCH PROPS TO FTF AND A-TEAM

KEEP DOING IT UP AND THE HATERS WILL ALWAYS BE HATERS



just a note , a-team dont cam, they use silvers.


Posted by ^Om3n on 09-16-2002 05:24 AM:

Not to disagree with the point you were making, because i think it is quite valid. But... FTF & A-Team are not currently camming there own stuff, they are coming from silvers. Also in response to "All tcf got to do is get there clear source and rar it up and thats it " Thats not correct. The source in their case (SCR/WP) comes in the form of a VHS tape, sometimes even a SVHS of DVD. Give them a little more credit, it requires quite a bit more work from a VHS source than it does from a pressed silver or pDVD (as is the case with FTF and A-Team)

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Posted by OzZyOz on 09-16-2002 09:33 AM:

Aight here's da deal. Flame me all u want after this post but what eva. This realease isn't as fucking bad as u lil dick lickers are saying. The pic is fuzzy but it can be made to look better by some simple editing. The sound is a bit off but run it through some filters. This is actually widescreen unlike the fucked up ratio of A-Team's. A-Team props for releasing it but FTF is better. SVCD though hellz no. Stick with VCD. But props to u cause Imma watch this one over the A-Team. After some editing this one is A-OK.

6.5/6/7


Posted by Redemption on 09-16-2002 10:50 AM:

Hey The Dream why did you post the same thing in both releases of this film?

And i agree with you Omen, it easy and takes minutes to rip a CD or DVD to your hard drive, but its a lot harder and much longer to do a VHS capture.

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Posted by DaveMode on 09-16-2002 03:19 PM:

What's up with everyone saying this is waaaay better than the a-team release? It's definetly not worth re-downloading, IMO. I would say the overally quality of this release is a 7, while the a-team version would be about 6.5.


Posted by CharlyTuna on 09-16-2002 11:42 PM:

as long as its better
and to me its much better, ftf's i can actualy see the actors faces when they spoke, a-teams looks like the actors had diareah on there faces


Posted by Asterisk on 09-16-2002 11:59 PM:

CharlyTuna (aka GallonFREAK) stop sucking FTF's dick. This is the worse FTF release i've seen. A-team's is shit too, but they beat FTF this time. FTF just released an SVCD of the same silver, they couldn't proper the a-team release so they just encoded it to SVCD. FTF will strike back with another early release, but this one was just lame.

4/5/4


Posted by rappa on 09-17-2002 12:13 AM:

omg what the fuck are you guys stupid? WOW OW WOW OW WOW....First of all, this release isnt from a silver, its from a dv cam unlike wannabe a-teams, this release is actually a 7/7/8...I watched this last nite and wow, i must say, the quality was very nice.....In this release, the sound is perfect, not hollow like a-teams and the pic is not slanted...They are testing out a new cam, havent u guys realized it..god you guys are so pathetic saying its from the same silver..bla bla bla..ur all judging by the jpeg's or ur pc sucks..i would recommend this release and they will be better, first svcd release from this cam isnt to shabby, you all remember you know who's first telesync..laff they looked like webcams...just wait and youll be happy from ftf but until then, please dont post if u havent seen the sample. Thank you.

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Posted by CharlyTuna on 09-17-2002 12:54 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Asterisk
CharlyTuna (aka GallonFREAK) stop sucking FTF's dick. This is the worse FTF release i've seen. A-team's is shit too, but they beat FTF this time. FTF just released an SVCD of the same silver, they couldn't proper the a-team release so they just encoded it to SVCD. FTF will strike back with another early release, but this one was just lame.

4/5/4




gallonfreak? um no, westside homie was already pointed out as him, umm cause someone says somethings better is automativly someone else?

weird, i guess i have to lie on the forum to get respect and lie when i think somethings better and say its worse to please people hmm, not gonna happen

also i gave esoteric the best ratings of all my ratings this past week, so please know what you are talking about

please focus on the real gallinfreak, or maybe you are him, trying to pinpoint others as him, so no one will think you are him, hmm

i see reverse psycholigy here!


p.s. thanks rappa for shutting these lamo's up!
they think being honest about ftf's release is sucking ftf's dick lol
if your honest here you get flamed, go figure,
eh asterix is probably an a-team member lol
a-team is flooded all over this board flaming and giving themselves complaments, like if there rating status is going to go up, cause we might beleive there real people complamenting them and not there own a-team ops lol

only kids fall for that..


Posted by Asterisk on 09-17-2002 01:17 AM:

RaPpa you gave the sound a 7?

After watching the same part of both releases, the sound is almost identicle, 5 max. Dont judge by the samples, both releases are pretty much the same.

CharlyTuna when did you register? Hmm, a day after gallonFREAK aka Omen911 got banned? so how do you know about him? I'm not gonna start replying to your posts, I know it's a waste of time, the forums don't need that shit again.


Posted by Snowbording4138 on 09-17-2002 01:19 AM:

color is fucked up


Posted by CharlyTuna on 09-17-2002 01:23 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Asterisk
RaPpa you gave the sound a 7?

After watching the same part of both releases, the sound is almost identicle, 5 max. Dont judge by the samples, both releases are pretty much the same.

CharlyTuna when did you register? Hmm, a day after gallonFREAK aka Omen911 got banned? so how do you know about him? I'm not gonna start replying to your posts, I know it's a waste of time, the forums don't need that shit again.




i have no idea when he left, ask the mods, and im sure
our ip's not the same
i doubt i registered the day after
you are sounding more and more like him
how did i know about him? umm i have been reading vcdquality for about 6months now, ive seen lots of members.

either your him, or your just another maniac

remember that old saying when someone farted?
WHOEVER SMEALLED IT DEALT IT..

you mentioned him 1st, so i think its a cover up

better hide, they are matching your isp now

get a life, and yes dont reply to me no more, your already looking dumb!

stop trying to make what we say about a release and make it into a fight, our minds wont change when we say this ones way better then a-teams.bottom line


Posted by ryanrony on 09-17-2002 02:34 AM:

changed the jpeg sample eh


Posted by tearz on 09-18-2002 02:12 AM:

Thumbs down FTF (Fucked the Film) Screwed anotherone

Well, it's been 9 month since FTF made their way into the scene with starwars, and i still wonder why people support this crap.

Not only was this movie really crappy, but the sound and terrible quality of the video ftf always presents made this movie even more unbearable!

Way to go FTF... you've almost outdone yourself.

You can continue to win the races, but you sure arn't winning any awards for the quality of your releases.


Posted by Vamp|re on 09-22-2002 10:55 AM:

just let ftf do what they do if you dont like it NO ONE REALLY GIVES A FUCK

As for the movie it was pretty funny heh


Posted by Packet_Kiddie on 09-23-2002 01:45 PM:

Why, FTF - WHY?!?

It's obvious, I think... Basically FTF got beat by A-Team on the release and only put out the SVCD so they could send it out. A small boon for the time and effort they spent doing it, at least they could release it without it being a dupe.

I think if A-Team had slacked, this would have been a VCD and people would have rated this more fairly. I only saw the sample here to give an honest appraisal - as an SVCD this only gets 4/6/8... It would have been at least 5/7/8 in VCD format (lesser expectations)


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