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Posted by ub3rk1d on 08-26-2002 09:45 PM:

El Diablo? Never heard of that one..., is this a new release in US?


Posted by Rolex on 08-26-2002 10:06 PM:

Red face hehe

workprint, what more can we say :-)


Posted by a1catraz on 08-26-2002 10:09 PM:

mediocre quality.. but hella fast.. and hella nice...


Posted by Rep- on 08-26-2002 10:13 PM:

Can some of you guys hook me up. I want some of your -2hour access, so I can download and watch a full movie 10 minutes after it is posted here! I mean, 10 minutes after its posted and you already rated the quality and how good the movie was?! rofl


Posted by realized on 08-26-2002 10:17 PM:

wtf

Why does it look like a telesync?

and when are you guys going to learn what a aspect ratio is ? THOES HUGE BOARDERS AREN'T SOPOSED TO BE THERE ..


i think somebody needs to goto dvd2svcd school...


maybe we should take VideoCD and oSB and all join #cause-we-suck, and teach them how to encode..


Posted by Crombie42 on 08-26-2002 10:32 PM:

Talking

Enjoy this one....its a 6 month Pre-release blockbuster that no one knows about, suppossed to be released March 7th, 2003. Its kinda funny how people 4 months down the road are gonna be saying "ohhh i wanna see that new vin diesel movie" and you can tell them that you saw it a half a year ago hehehe, anyway good release VideoCD


Posted by Rep- on 08-26-2002 10:32 PM:

rofl. But seriously. Those idiots just vote 1/1/1 or 10/10/10 before even a jpg is up. that is just retarded.


Posted by realized on 08-26-2002 10:36 PM:

wtf?

Rep-,

you gota learn when to talk and when not to..

1) the movie is already on most/all the sites its going to be raced to, so everybody has already had a chance to view the sample/start downloading the movie itself..

2) your "-2 hr" comment, not all of us download our movies from AOL. Things are out a little sooner then u think..


Posted by bmvtoys on 08-26-2002 10:36 PM:

isnt' it amazing? Soon some of them will be yelling nuke and mislabel, since they have not seen it anyhow.

Either way, i know i'm gonna pull this one down. Pre's are always good to see (even if the quality ends up sucking), and one this pre is even better.


Posted by AngelDeath on 08-26-2002 10:37 PM:

Dont have this yet, jpg looks okay, but 6 months early, thats cool, thats like when I heard people saying Jason X and I was laughing about it, people didnt believe me until they saw it and saw the parts I described...Hope I find this soon, Great rls, either way VideoCD, major props for the 6mos early...

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Posted by mymusic on 08-26-2002 10:37 PM:

i hear ya rep-. I never even go by the ratings just for the fact that they cant be trusted. I dont think that just anyone should be allowed to vote on them. u might as well just remove that part all together.

But ive gotten over it. Its not like this is going to be the last time some lamers vote before even having the jpgs posted (not that jpgs are a worthy sorce for voting on , just a timeline)


Posted by [RaZoR] on 08-26-2002 10:39 PM:

from the jpg's i have to say quality is bad for direct video source.
but hey , its a 6month pre !

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Posted by ub3rk1d on 08-26-2002 10:48 PM:

6 months + uk delay time = 2 years pre-release, woo hoo, LOL!


Posted by devilbeast on 08-26-2002 10:58 PM:

holy pre........the speed on this is ...how can you say it....quite good
dont care what it looks like even if they are blurs running around u can get the plot :P but its ok for this early i dont care


Posted by DrOmango on 08-26-2002 11:06 PM:

seriously, vcdquality needs to make a vote system that keeps track of names of WHO VOTED WHAT FOR THAT MOVIE caus if they abuse it, they should be banned... I seen alot of bad votes, excellent votes in 1 sec befor even the movie was posted which is gay.. there's like 1 out of 5 or 10 people or SOMETHING that gets 0sec DUMPS..... :\

anyways just my suggestion if u understand what I am saying...


Posted by Ripper on 08-26-2002 11:28 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by DrOmango
seriously, vcdquality needs to make a vote system that keeps track of names of WHO VOTED WHAT FOR THAT MOVIE caus if they abuse it, they should be banned...


They do know who votes m8 its in the board log for 1 just finishin watchin the guru then im gonna check this out as its vin diesel and @least 5 month pre

another nice release videocd keep it up

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Posted by Cerial on 08-26-2002 11:32 PM:

no offense, but some of u guys are pretty retarded. you act like movies arent actually released until VCDQUALITY lists them. people could actually get the sample while its being pre'd and then judge it.... i know its a crazy concept for you people who use the jpgs and assume its impossible anyone could use something else to judge quality. i mean, i had that Signs SVCD ts that just got released's sample 5 hours before it was pre'd because the dumbass group just had it sitting in their pre folder. so i could have voted on the quality 5 hours before vcdquality got the info! i must be lying and just putting 10/10/10 cause im dumb


Posted by K-FleX on 08-26-2002 11:40 PM:

Muhahahh

ViDEOCD Rox the boat once again heh...they rock so far the my fav grp and always have been...keep it up just dont dupe urselves heh


Posted by MovieGod on 08-26-2002 11:54 PM:

release wise, Video CD rocks. looks good for workprint.

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Posted by darkslide on 08-27-2002 12:29 AM:

looks good.. i will def grab this

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Posted by ThEgAmE on 08-27-2002 12:51 AM:

videoCD keeps getting better and better, lol soon we will have the matrix releoaded and the matrix revisited, havent got this yet but will definately get it, great job videoCD in bringing us this SUPER-PRE-RELEASE


Posted by Riddick on 08-27-2002 12:52 AM:

nice 1 guys keep up the good work will post back as soon as i have watched it, been waiting for this 1,


Posted by dopeuser8 on 08-27-2002 01:27 AM:

Looks good, but I'll wait for VCDHell to re-encode and re-release as a SVCD, haha, but seriously, quality isnt great, but its 6-months pre-theater, and I don't know if you bought this on the street corner, or actual have an inside source for your hook-ups, but thanks for releasing it, even if it isnt dvd-quality


Posted by Welsh_Dragon_UK on 08-27-2002 01:32 AM:

cool movie looks good(SAMPLE)bloody face included.

Nice and viewable good pre release guys nice work.

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Respect goes out to all releasers.


Posted by southparktvma on 08-27-2002 01:54 AM:

ummm

great prerealse but this movie is not called el diablo anymore as of now it is an untitled project...and also 2 weeks before they shot this movie they started a sequal

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Posted by ewfbootlegga on 08-27-2002 02:06 AM:

decent quality and a real big pre so I can't complain.


Posted by Superxero on 08-27-2002 02:08 AM:

yay another vin diesel movie hmmm quality seems to be much like the halloween wp

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Posted by crapper on 08-27-2002 03:25 AM:

the quality is tape..
not bad but once again poorly encoded..

BUT!
and amazin PRE!
i mean 5 months isnt bad..

NOT BAD AT ALLL!

so i say GREAT RELEASE>. and i guesse by then this will beat the ts's
so this is a watchable version of a movie that gonna be on dvd in like a year if yur lucky

and workprints are great anyway.. they give u those few scene's extra ... or what ever..

this rules .. not the quality but the pre and workprint..

keep those wp's comin


Posted by Joynt on 08-27-2002 05:06 AM:

i was post a long message but Cerial basically summed up what i wanted to say....just cuz u dont have it doesnt mean someone else didnt get it a couple hours b4 u....so maybe u shuld get a little more involved b4 u post again


Posted by gallonFREAK on 08-27-2002 06:13 AM:

videoCAM is back with another poor crap!


Posted by Natural on 08-27-2002 09:20 AM:

Re: wtf?

quote:
Originally posted by realized
Rep-,

you gota learn when to talk and when not to..

1) the movie is already on most/all the sites its going to be raced to, so everybody has already had a chance to view the sample/start downloading the movie itself..

2) your "-2 hr" comment, not all of us download our movies from AOL. Things are out a little sooner then u think..



this is true but i think he's commenting on the lamers who vote without an mpg sample but on title alone, because sadly that's where a lot of the votes come from. the scores usually even out when people with a brain take the time to view the movie or sample, then comment..


Posted by tko248 on 08-27-2002 09:33 AM:

Props for this release, overall quality was fairly decent for such an early pre. The movie itself was great imo.

Great Job VideoCD.


Posted by QualitySlut on 08-27-2002 09:57 AM:

Let me get this right gallonFREAK you think this is a cam? I'm sorry my frien but thats just not possible. You see that "property of new line cinema" at the bottom, that would not be on a cam. So that leaves a scr or a workprint as possibilities. Seeing how they don't even have a final name for it yet it wouldn't be a scr so that leaves workprint as the only possibility. Since this is vcdquality let me accually give my opinion on it, In my opinion this is a very watchable release with decent video and good sound not the best WP I have ever seen but deffinetly better than alot of the TS's that have been floating around recently. I would rate this a 7/8/8 (remember this is compared to other WP's not dvdrips) Thank you to all the VideoCD members and to every other group that riscs thier jobs/freedom/lifes to bring all of us FREE movies to watch many times long before the theater has them.


Posted by mib on 08-27-2002 01:14 PM:

quite nice rls from them for once.. did watch it last night...cool movie.. and workpring so not all stuff is done yet.. but hey ...so early. nice one..


Posted by x|LeaF|x on 08-27-2002 02:53 PM:

Encoding

I guess it is just our luck that this workprint got into VideoCD's hands before anyone elses. This could not have been a 6 gen tape, so I'd assume that the encoding skrews the quality. The AR is off (serial number?). I was hoping TCF or TEG woulda got this workprint, and actually put out a watchable rls.

PS. Black bars are not the solution to serial's or counters. Blurs are.

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Posted by Cerial on 08-27-2002 03:27 PM:

the AR isnt off, ur just blind.


Posted by Azrael626 on 08-27-2002 04:06 PM:

Re: Encoding

quote:
Originally posted by x|LeaF|x
I guess it is just our luck that this workprint got into VideoCD's hands before anyone elses. This could not have been a 6 gen tape, so I'd assume that the encoding skrews the quality. The AR is off (serial number?). I was hoping TCF or TEG woulda got this workprint, and actually put out a watchable rls.

PS. Black bars are not the solution to serial's or counters. Blurs are.



Do you even watch releases or do you just assume based upon the group name what you should watch? There's nothing wrong with this release and the fact is, videocd pulled off a great release here and you should stop sucking other groups dicks and realize it's a great release and the AR isn't off at all.


Posted by kingpin 1 on 08-27-2002 04:15 PM:

Thumbs up

GREAT JOB FOR A SIX MONTH PRE ONLY PROB IS WHERE TO GET A COVER FROM


Posted by dopeuser8 on 08-27-2002 04:40 PM:

The screen wasnt cropped to block a serial number, if you watch the sample, mpg or jpg, you can see a blur in the upper-left is covering a serial.


Posted by Joynt on 08-27-2002 04:57 PM:

dammit Cerial everytime im about to post u say what i'm gonna say

quote:
the AR isnt off, ur just blind.


Posted by Ripper on 08-27-2002 05:33 PM:

I've just had a look @the first cd its light and for some reason its called Diablo and not el diablo and there are 3 diffrent transparent marks 1 of them im sure is a running clock..

What some people dont realise is the jpeg uploaders dont have axx to every pre site hense they dont get every 0 sec film samples first.. but as a rule this is a good site and i noticed that iso**** dont report that much on the film side anymore and this is the site to come to for movie releases
so give the guys a break

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Posted by Urkman on 08-27-2002 06:09 PM:

Thumbs up

Not bad for PRE...

watchable Workprint 7/6/??


Posted by Azrael626 on 08-27-2002 06:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ripper
I've just had a look @the first cd its light and for some reason its called Diablo and not el diablo and there are 3 diffrent transparent marks 1 of them im sure is a running clock..

What some people dont realise is the jpeg uploaders dont have axx to every pre site hense they dont get every 0 sec film samples first.. but as a rule this is a good site and i noticed that iso**** dont report that much on the film side anymore and this is the site to come to for movie releases
so give the guys a break



The reason for that is that the title is not for sure yet, originally it was called Diablo, then El Diablo, and now they are changing the name again, so for the WP it simply says Diablo.


Posted by Rep- on 08-27-2002 06:39 PM:

ok. Some of them may have looked at the sample, because yes I know it is released before VCDQuality hsa em, seeing as though I've seen Ops request the NFO and Sample to put on the main page. BUt when I see 1/1/1 and a 10/10/10, It doesn't seem to me that someone viewed the whole movie, to see how good the movie was. I don't think VCDQuality is THAT slow to have someone able to download the whole movie and watch it before they post it though...


Posted by AngelDeath on 08-27-2002 06:58 PM:

Just watched the Sample, its watchable, a little blocky at times near the top, sound is not bad, but the video is a bit washed out, but still overall nice rls for a pre. great rls.

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Posted by gallonFREAK on 08-27-2002 07:01 PM:

like i said

videoCAM is back


Posted by pHo on 08-27-2002 07:38 PM:

looks like another unfilitered silver bin/cue. fair nuff i guess, but personally i would've done some simple colour correction / gamma fixes etc on it myself.

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Posted by Bud-man on 08-27-2002 11:43 PM:

Studio: New Line Cinema
Genre: Crime Drama
Release Date: Spring 2003


Cast: Vin Diesel, Steve Eastin, Timothy Olyphant, Larenz Tate, Jacqueline Obradors, Geno Silva, Juan Fernadez, Jeff Kober, Mike Moroff, Emilio Rivera, Marco Rodriguez, George Sharperson

Premise: A mysterious man known only as Diablo takes over a powerful drug cartel when the former boss goes to prison. That former drug lord then teams up with a DEA agent and his partner to try to take down Diablo.


Posted by azenxtacee on 08-28-2002 02:36 AM:

This movie is awesome

I just saw the sample of this movie and teh video quality is soo good for a pre-release and the sound is good also. I just wish they fixed the contrast and gamma for this movie becuase its a little too bright but im not complaining GOOD release keep it up


Posted by CraZY8 on 08-28-2002 01:13 PM:

help

say i wanted to make it better
what can i do
run it tho tmpeg or somtine?

in order to make this worth my 2 cds
anyone have any suggestions on a new aspect ratio and a
new sound settings
thx
pz


Posted by CraZY8 on 08-28-2002 02:01 PM:

werd

ye thx for tha help
but i was looking more into like the viewing part
liek maybe run it thorugh tmpeg or somtine


Posted by Bria James on 08-28-2002 06:32 PM:

el diablo

This release is watchable, but like everyone else, of course I would like to see a better one. Im not complaining at all, because for a pre-release of a movie that no one has even heard of, it's the bomb!

Also, Ive been checking this site out for a while, but this is the first time that I posted. It always amazes me how many people complain about some of these releases. If you guys can do a better job, why not do it instead of talking shit about the next guys work?

but like I said, I am new to this stuff, so maybe Im the one whos tripping....(not)

props to VCDQUALITY for keeping us up on all the new shit!
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Posted by renegade on 08-29-2002 01:42 AM:

just got the time to check out this flick. the quality of this workprint is very watchable. the pic is a little grainy but nothing really bad, and the audio is ok. I did notice during cd2 a couple minor glitches but nothing that took away from watching it. As for the movie, it was actually pretty good I thought. thanks for the pre release, video cd.


Posted by gallonFREAK on 08-29-2002 01:44 AM:

remember all, stating an opinion doesmt mean your complaining!
dont be scared tovoice your opinion, this sites not just for ass kissing jokes!!

im not complaining when i say this quality sux!!

im just viewing from my 20/20 vision!!


Posted by ThEgAmE on 08-29-2002 02:54 PM:

How come xXx screener and el diablo have the same rating, i think xXx screener has a good rating but this should have a lowere rating (just a little) cause it is not video quality, the audio is the same though but videoCD rules 4 getting this super pre-release b4 anyone and those lamers the a-team suck for trying to steal videoCDs copy of el diablo.


Posted by Azrael626 on 08-29-2002 04:39 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ThEgAmE
How come xXx screener and el diablo have the same rating, i think xXx screener has a good rating but this should have a lowere rating (just a little) cause it is not video quality, the audio is the same though but videoCD rules 4 getting this super pre-release b4 anyone and those lamers the a-team suck for trying to steal videoCDs copy of el diablo.


Because it's being graded on it's quality as a Workprint, not as a Screener, each type of release is rated upon it's quality for that type of release, not 10's for svcd and 3's for ts..you rate the level of each type of rls from ts to svcd...


Posted by MacMall88 on 08-30-2002 01:35 AM:

quote:
say i wanted to make it better what can i do run it tho tmpeg or somtine?


I re-encoded this rls with the following settings, which, IMO, looks hella better than the original:
Go into TMPGEnc
Click on Settings
Go To Advanced
Click on Simple Color Correction
Adjust the following:
Brightness: -34
Contrast: 3
Gamma: 31
Red: 88
Blue: 58

All of these make for a more watchable release

P.S.: I also used clip frame to cut off those goddamn blurred serials at the top ( ifound them annoying as hell)


Posted by Urkman on 08-31-2002 11:03 PM:

Unhappy

Blurry Pic and Scratchy sound

Just keep trying VideoCD...

6/5/7


Posted by Azrael626 on 09-01-2002 01:49 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Urkman
Blurry Pic and Scratchy sound

Just keep trying VideoCD...

6/5/7



There's a reason it's called a workprint and out 6 months prior to theater release dude. Respect the fact that you never would have been able to see it for months if not for that rls.


Posted by Dr. Poo PhD on 09-01-2002 06:00 PM:

Quite watchable for being out so early. Props to VideoCD for their efforts. Some of us do, in fact, appreciate the effort put into this stuff. I'd rate this one a 7/6/8.


Posted by Nostradamus on 09-01-2002 11:31 PM:

For a pre, I say good job guy's.. Worth watching, not keeping.. Rate is 6-6-6........


Posted by RUiN on 09-02-2002 03:25 AM:

Very watchable , but the movie is realy bad IMO. I rate this one 5/5/4 . Vin's movies just keep getting worse


Posted by reverend on 09-03-2002 03:42 PM:

I found this one just about watchable quality-wise. Looks like the vhs tape could have benefited from better ripping and encoding skills. Too light, blurred or blocky sometimes. sound was okay. It's cool that we are getting this so early of-course.

I terms of the movie, it had some interesting moments, but by part 2 it had decended into the usual gun-toting jambouree of stupidity, inducing boredom in this viewer. I stopped watching when they finally got to Diablo's hideout and you see his face [whoopee] for the firs......Zzzzzzzzz.


Posted by THE_DREAM on 09-11-2002 03:10 AM:

i can say yall made up for the enbarrassement yall gave me a few weeks ago. now i can say its forgotten now.. thx for the rls


Posted by THE_DREAM on 09-11-2002 03:10 AM:

i can say yall made up for the enbarrassement yall gave me a few weeks ago. now i can say its forgotten now.. thx for the rls


Posted by thebone on 12-30-2002 06:52 PM:

out soon

When I was at LOTR TT this weekend, I FINALLY saw a preview for this movie....it will be called "A Man Apart". I dont remember if it gave a release date.

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Posted by jbcg1820 on 01-02-2003 07:02 AM:

vin desil is so over rated


Posted by DarkBeatz on 01-29-2003 12:11 AM:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/newline/a_man_apart/

Trailer is released Movie will be called A Man Apart it seems


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