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Whats your Political view?

Been reading a lot of posts lately where this forum has been call ultra left and ultra right. Always denied. So just for the sake of setting this record straight, and im curious i made this post. I guess it has more of a point if you actually post what you voted for, unless there is a way to have that happen automatically, if so someone let me know please.

I Voted Very Right Wing.

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I used to consider myself right-wing. My views haven't changed much over the last thirty years but I now find myself well to the left of most people these days.

You should keep that to yourself. Me and Avenue1 get picked on for being 'too' right wing. Apparently there is no barrier on the left hand side though.

Dare to say Margaret Thatcher was a decent prime minister and you could be banned on the spot, voice an empathy for Arthur Scargill and you could be made a moderator within a week.

And just in case you are wondering, we all hate liberals, this is why Neversoft is universally hated.

Also, I think you put Communist on the wrong side of your poll, maybe replace that with Fascist and stick communist a lot closer to socialist.

anti immigration

right wing

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the left/right thing has always been a joke to me. greed and corruption are the common denominators.

I gotta say middle but only because I'm right wing on some things and left on others.don't give a fuck about immigration I'm a live and let live person .

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I, myself am a British Sikh, born and bred as a British citizen. My parents moved to the UK when they were 8-9 years old, as my grandparents were given citizenship - My great grandfathers faught for the British army against the germans (1 became a mercenery and the other was in normal regiment)

I would very much like to know what some of your far-right thoughts are regarding my position in british society... Am i worthy of having citizenship as both my great gparents died for the country? Or does it not matter since i have no English heritage, and thus no right to be living in the country?

I just thought it would be interesting...as i havent really met any far right wingers

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Originally posted by gezzer
I gotta say middle but only because I'm right wing on some things and left on others.don't give a fuck about immigration I'm a live and let live person .

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Originally posted by sim-card
I would very much like to know what some of your far-right thoughts are regarding my position in british society... Am i worthy of having citizenship as both my great gparents died for the country? Or does it no matter because i have no heritage, and thus no right to be living in the country?

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Originally posted by The CandyMan
Old saying about "stand in the middle of the road long enough and you're gonna get hit" always pops in my head whenever someone says they're "moderate" or in the middle. You're either on one side of an issue or the other there really is no middle when it comes to politics.

Voted Kinda Right Wing though people like para say I'm very. I don't think so. For one I have no problem with Welfare or Disability income from the government as long as it's used properly. And Welfare was meant as a hand up not a hand out to enable people to not even attempt to improve their lives. The system is abused but I still think it's needed.

Anyone who labels themselves lliberal or a democrat (left wing) in the states must be wondering just what the hell did they do last November when they voted for Obama. One month in office and already the federal deficit has more than doubled (Economic Stimulus Plan, Tarp2, etc.) And today with the announcement about his plan to reduce our Deficit by half by the year 2013 didn't shock me but I know what the only solution to that is:higher taxes (income, capital, estate, etc.) So again, just 30 days after being in office, the Immaculate One is talking about raising taxes.

Not going to keep going on with this any longer (not enough time and my reply would crush any other reply for length ever posted on the internet lol) but I can say that one thing I know for sure is this; the United States will not be the country it was 4 years from now if the "changes" Obama is making and wants to make are allowed to happen. Instead of learning about Socialism in school, our children will get to experience it first-hand.

With that depressing thought I'm gonna cheer myself up by staring at my siggy for awhile.

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I am a Socialist and i never thought i would ever see the day the USA would become socialist...its kinda like the berlin wall comming down all over again..oh and it was the republicans who started it by nationalising the banks and the motor industry...ohh and candyman going on about welfare etc...your heros the right wing ceo's and hirachy of the usa establishment have cost the tax payers a hell of a lot more than ALL the welfare cheats ever could do in your country..leave the little man alone

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Originally posted by The CandyMan
Old saying about "stand in the middle of the road long enough and you're gonna get hit" always pops in my head whenever someone says they're "moderate" or in the middle. You're either on one side of an issue or the other there really is no middle when it comes to politics.

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I have to say threads like this reveal the issues with bipartisan systems where people feel compelled to say whether they sit one side or the other on any issues.

I voted liberal because I have both left and right wing views. I'm a capitalist at heart but I believe in helping people who can't necessarily help themselves - yes even if they're not from this country and have a legitimate need. That said I also think we spend too much time helping people whose issues are no longer ours when we could be doing better work for our own people.

I vote Lib Dem not because I'm a liberal or middle-ground but because they don't spend time trying to shit on the opposition and instead think about their policies. I appreciate the Obama administration because he took time to fill his cabinet with people from both sides in order to get a fair representation - a Democrat president doesn't necessarily mean a Democrat government in the way it behaves. The Pres acts for the good of the people and in that sense I think you're lucky in the US right now, because fuck knows what Gordon "Cunt Face" Brown is doing for us.

I don't think the BNP would be an answer to that though, maybe some stricter border control but not ethnic cleansing.

I should stop playing Deux Ex, I think about this shit way too much.

I went with "Kinda left wing" but I wouldn't say I was either to be honest... It depends on what the topic is as some stuff I'm pretty intolerant of.

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Not left nor right.

straight up the MIDDLE for me

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Jingofin - You and Ave constantly being called ultra right wingers is what made me curious as to the political views of the forum attendees, and i see no need or reason to keep it to yourself, if they dont like it, fuck em. And Communism on the poll is the Theoretical form, not the practiced, its the extreme right wing, zero government, work for common good etc..., that was my rationale on the placement.

Sim-card - Im American, so not sure about the Sikh thing, thought that was a middle eastern thing, thought you brits had dukes and such, and also not sure about British immigration laws, and how often someone immigrates there, but if your grandparents immigrated legally, and got citizenship for themselves and their kids(your parents) and you were then born to British citizens, then imo you are 100% British

Candyman - Sounds like you think logically, so tell me what are you planning on doing with your $13?

Fuckmonkey - Obviously most people dont feel one side on all issues, but in reference to most issues/issues a person feels most passionatly about. Myself? i am pro-choice, dont care about gay marriage and dont beleive in god. i also support school prayer and 10 commandments in courthouses. go figure huh? and a 2 party system worked great 200 years ago, we do need a viable third party

Also, the main reason i made my choice was i am ultra opposed to ANY form of social welfare and just want the government to LEAVE ME ALONE Small government, strong military, low taxes, no welfare and enforce immigration laws.

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Originally posted by Weirdman
Sim-card - Im American, so not sure about the Sikh thing, thought that was a middle eastern thing, thought you brits had dukes and such, and also not sure about British immigration laws, and how often someone immigrates there, but if your grandparents immigrated legally, and got citizenship for themselves and their kids(your parents) and you were then born to British citizens, then imo you are 100% British

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i totally disagree with the uk's immigration policy also the anti-drugs policy (which doesnt work at all)
just my view on things

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same, i dont think they should allow any fukin tom dick or harry into the country, it should be based more on the aussie system-- where you need a certain no. of points based on a certain criteria to be able to qualify for citizenship

okay simcard, got it figured out now, i was thinking Sheik (sp?), sorry about that.

And yes, at least myself and most everyone around me consider myself far right wing

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Originally posted by sim-card
same, i dont think they should allow any fukin tom dick or harry into the country, it should be based more on the aussie system-- where you need a certain no. of points based on a certain criteria to be able to qualify for citizenship

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Weirdman, I consider myself slightly right wing, I have met people who are far more right wing than I, they just don't know it.

My whole thing with the British immigration thing is difficult to explain. Sim Card, I would say you and your family are deserving of being here, I have never held any animosity towards Sikhs and never will. The immigrants from your parents generation, for the most part, came here to work, integrate, make lives for themselves within Britain without trying to change Britain.

The problem now is the undeserving scum that are coming into the country by the boatload. Unlike your Grandparents and Parents they have no loyalty to Britain, have no intention of integrating with the natives and for a large part have no intention to work and pay taxes. I have never had a problem with Sikhs and I recognise that 2nd generation immigrants have as much to lose as I do with the unchecked, open to allcomers immigration policy that the government seems to have.

In fact, i'd say someone as yourself has more to lose than I with the current immigration policy. Not everyone, I have seen this first hand, recognises the difference between intelligent, harworking, hygienic and loyal to Britain Sikhs and the recent influx of scumbag, knife wielding, dirty Somalian/Afghan/Kosovan/Iraqi/Iranian freeloading immigrants. All the piss taking done by recent immigrants has got everyone, including morons, riled up. The morons channel their anger indiscriminately because their small brains are unable to distinguish between 1 brown man and another. You and your family will probably feel the effects of this worse than me and mine.

The current situation is alienating the decent hardworking Brits, when morons react indiscriminately it causes the limp wrist liberals to dismiss all opposition as racist and it fuels the segregation of communities. In short, bad immigrants have given good immigrants a bad name and inaction will tear this country apart.

My solution, return all failed asylum seekers NOW, only allow people in who have something to offer to Britain and give NOTHING to anyone until they or their parents have paid some tax. There should be no more apologizing for racial profiling, it makes sense, its not racist, its merely playing the odds and directing resources where they are most needed.

Lastly, they should implement a national, monthly, kick a Somalian contest. Whoever kicks the most, wins. At least then we actually get something out of immigration

There is so much more I would like to say, but it would take forever. I'll just ask everyone else some questions instead.

What are your thoughts on;

An Afghan single mother, who doesn't work, doesn't speak english and has no qualifications with 4 kids being given a million pound mansion to live in free of charge, paid for by taxpayers. Along with £50,000 a year in additional benefits for living expenses.

And share your opinion on;

All the recent stories of knife crime in the U.K (We all know it's the niggers and the muslims, lets not pretend otherwise)

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Candyman - Sounds like you think logically, so tell me what are you planning on doing with your $13?

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Candyman - Sounds like you think logically, so tell me what are you planning on doing with your $13?

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Try paying $12 a pack of smokes. Thats what it costs us Brits for a packet , 90% tax

Labour has done more to fuck the hard working British peaople than any other government in history. Banned smoking in pubs, 100 pubs a day close. Pubs were a tax collecting paradise, now they are losing that income stream when they need it most. Fucking morons, fucking nanny state cuntroaches.

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All the recent stories of knife crime in the U.K (We all know it's the niggers and the muslims, lets not pretend otherwise)

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Originally posted by Jingofin
Try paying $12 a pack. Thats what it costs us Brits for a packet of smokes, 90% tax

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Originally posted by The CandyMan
Is that in Euros or US dollars?

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Originally posted by Jingofin
Thats dollars. Its roughly £6/$12 for 20 fags here.

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Haha yeah. thats what pisses me off. I go to Spain, I buy a pack of smokes for half the price and on the side of the packet it says "Made in Britain". Its a fucking Joke Shop, a clown school headed by a fat, one eyed, pisshead Scottish cunt who is going to flush this country down the toilet before handing over the reins of a dead horse to a Tory Government that will have the thankless task of rebuilding what was once a prosperous and pleasant land. . Deeep Breath.

Vote Labour for a classless society.... Indeed, Labours tried its hardest to make everyone as poor as eachother. Closet Commie Cuntwarts.

I grow my own food for the most part. I eat local beef (deerses), i grow potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, onions, pumpkins, lettuce (not very well sadly) and lots of other greens.

I take random online courses so I can file as a student indefinitely. I coach 2 soccer teams, one of them non-salaried and claim all those expenses as teaching costs. I ref soccer games on the side so any and all mileage from April 1st to November 1st are written off. Car maintenance is written off as business expenses. All my computer expenses are business expenses. I am the legal guardian of my younger brother who currently resides with me, more money back. Basically, I try to involve myself as little as possible with todays government on the day to day scale and when it comes to taxes and such, I fuck em and fuck em hard with no remorse for where that money comes from (sorry if it happens to be your pocket).

As far as government is concerned, I guess I would fall under the libertarian category. The future I see is lots of unemployment which will force people to look locally once again and start small home businesses and really invest in their community more, simply out of fear of wasting their money on big business (as it simply syphons it out of country) and state/fed governments thoughtless overspending. More mom and daughter home cleaning services, more father and son chimney and foundation repair. More local, people run government and less state/federal over regulation.

Im actually looking into breaking my land up (32 acres ATM) and selling it off to friends who will help grow food and shit. A mini collective.

Dont get me wrong, things will eventually evolve right back into where it was 10 years ago, those small business cant always stay small. But hopefully Ill have died by then.

Trying to pay as little tax as possible I can understand. But putting in claims to money you are not entitled to I do not condone. In fact, Bakkoda, you are borderline Gypsy.

Sounds like you are running a commune, you hate taxes yet you lay claim to tax other people have paid. You and your kind are the reason taxes are so high. Peasant.

Had always considered myself left of centre but have moved to the middle in the past few years. I believe that the Government should interfere with the individual person as little as possible but still feel that strong regulation of corporations is needed.

I'm for Health care for those who cannot afford it, welfare only for those who are unable to work and a minimum wage workfare program for the rest. I don't mind paying a reasonable rate of tax as long as long as services reflect it. Australia's point system for immigration appeals to me as well.

I used to be against the death penalty in all cases but lately, I find myself thinking that incarcerating people who cannot be rehabilitated for life is pointless and a huge waste of resources.

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Originally posted by Jingofin
Trying to pay as little tax as possible I can understand. But putting in claims to money you are not entitled to I do not condone. In fact, Bakkoda, you are borderline Gypsy.

Sounds like you are running a commune, you hate taxes yet you lay claim to tax other people have paid. You and your kind are the reason taxes are so high. Peasant.

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Originally posted by madd
agreed, i have no problem with foreign people coming here as long as they have something to offer. the problem is there is that many in the uk that dont work and never have done but they get a house paid for ,a car paid for and live on benifits. those are the one who should be fucked of back to there own country (or france) im sick of working my arse off paying stupid amounts of tax ect just to keep there sorry arses alive

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Originally posted by Weirdman
Fuckmonkey - Obviously most people dont feel one side on all issues, but in reference to most issues/issues a person feels most passionatly about. Myself? i am pro-choice, dont care about gay marriage and dont beleive in god. i also support school prayer and 10 commandments in courthouses. go figure huh? and a 2 party system worked great 200 years ago, we do need a viable third party

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Originally posted by sim-card
having said that mate, there are PLENTY of native english people living in provided council estates claiming benifits etc. .so the problem lies on whether you have a problem providing for these lazy bastards in general or jus for illegal immigrants...either way non of them are working, one group just has a right to live in the country and the other doesn't....providing additional fukin strain to the economy.

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Originally posted by Jingofin
I hate this argument. Yes we have scum that already live here but what chance have we got of educating them when we continue to let more scum in. Increasing the number of benefit claiming dossers is not going to help matters. Its an idiotic argument to say well theres a bunch of scum living here already, we may as well let lots more in.

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Originally posted by Jingofin
I hate this argument. Yes we have scum that already live here but what chance have we got of educating them when we continue to let more scum in. Increasing the number of benefit claiming dossers is not going to help matters. Its an idiotic argument to say well theres a bunch of scum living here already, we may as well let lots more in.

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Originally posted by Fuckmonkey
A 2 party system worked 200 years ago when the average Joe knew very little about politics. We're a lot more informed these days yet we're still shackling ourselves to red and blue.

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Originally posted by wob
see this gets on my tits..the scum/lazy/etc are just little people who are trying to survive ,are they any more of a sponger than ceos of banks or politicians or the royal family??nope they aint...

ohhh and yourself actually being a member of this bored is prolly classed as scum by anyone in the movie/ entertainment business...


..this thread is about the left/right of our political views..im left but this country is right ie its a capitalist society..

british jobs for british people ROTFLMFA

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Originally posted by Weirdman
There are many more resources and mediums for getting political knowledge now, and many people utilize that, however it seems the majority of Americans are still uninformed, latest count it is about 66,882,230 who dont even bother to pay any attention

ha, guess where i got that number

point is, while some are very informed, many are not

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i was reading this thread till i finished reading candymans first post in here and i was derailed by huge tits!

After i seen his signature all i could think of was tits


seriously lost all train of thought.

Place is turning into the daily mail.

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Originally posted by gezzer
Place is turning into the daily mail.

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I have to disagree re the monarchy too, on the old argument about the amount of tourism and status they give us. I don't believe, never have, that the Royal Family were direct descendents of God (being an atheist ruins that argument for me) but I do believe that a bloodline through which this country was run for centuries should count for something - if you made the monarchy a lottery it would be a sham. Imagine if Jade Goody had become the next queen...

Anyway, without them we wouldn't have the cash that the Japanese tourists bring in so that they can stand in front of Buckingham Palace gurning into their cameras. And we wouldn't have a vital diplomat able to attend to issues overseas that our useless cunt of a PM can't handle and still command respect.

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i was reading this thread till i finished reading candymans first post in here and i was derailed by huge tits!

After i seen his signature all i could think of was tits


seriously lost all train of thought.

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I have to disagree re the monarchy too, on the old argument about the amount of tourism and status they give us. I don't believe, never have, that the Royal Family were direct descendents of God (being an atheist ruins that argument for me) but I do believe that a bloodline through which this country was run for centuries should count for something - if you made the monarchy a lottery it would be a sham. Imagine if Jade Goody had become the next queen...

Anyway, without them we wouldn't have the cash that the Japanese tourists bring in so that they can stand in front of Buckingham Palace gurning into their cameras. And we wouldn't have a vital diplomat able to attend to issues overseas that our useless cunt of a PM can't handle and still command respect.

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Besides who here doesn't agree that titties are much more interesting than politics.

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Royal hating peasant. Anyone who is against the monarchy for the reason ''They are no better than us", i've got news for you, they ARE better than YOU.

Why are people afraid to have someone to look up to, a figure head, something decent to aspire to? The Queen exudes decency and dignity. Without a Royal Family, England is just a tiny country with an infestation of Somalians, with the Royal family, England heads the British Commonwealth.

FUCKING PEASANTS... I HATE PEASANTS>

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Originally posted by wob
lol you'll find that the japs come to see the buildings,tourists never see the royal family..oh and their bloodline is from germany scrap the monarchy ..they are no better than anyone else infact with their interbreeding etc ..tell you what id rather see frank gallaher king..

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I have to agree, when it comes to immigration I think people should have some form of "testing" done first to ensure they at least have something to offer, can pass a basic English test and aren't just here to take the piss... Baring in mind that I've got a few Paki/Muslim friends (including my best mate) I'm well aware of the fucking shenanigans that go off to get people into the country - including one of my mates having a totally bogus wedding to some bint that he hated.

Drugs policy is also way out of touch with the real world and prohibition clearly isn't working so why not try regulation and taxation instead?

I'd also like to see further regulation in the private sector, especially with companies that used to be nationalised and are now privatised and clearly taking the piss on pricing... Energy and public transport spring to mind, fucking cunts!

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Originally posted by Jingofin
putting in claims to money you are not entitled to

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I'd also like to see further regulation in the private sector, especially with companies that used to be nationalised and are now privatised and clearly taking the piss on pricing... Energy and public transport spring to mind, fucking cunts!

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^^ Agreed on energy. National Fuel/Grid is extremely pricey but thats not even my biggest concern. There is no investment going on. No line maintenance other than specific repair. No upgrades, no preventative maintenance, nothing.

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Royal hating peasant. Anyone who is against the monarchy for the reason ''They are no better than us", i've got news for you, they ARE better than YOU.

Why are people afraid to have someone to look up to, a figure head, something decent to aspire to? The Queen exudes decency and dignity. Without a Royal Family, England is just a tiny country with an infestation of Somalians, with the Royal family, England heads the British Commonwealth.

FUCKING PEASANTS... I HATE PEASANTS>

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Originally posted by sim-card
i suppose u make a valid point...one only has to watch the latest dispatches on the princes and the royal fam to see how much money they truely waste...i dnt think UK needs a monarch...anyone disagree?

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Originally posted by wob
ohh THERE ARE TOURISTS OBVIOUSLY..but rarely infact see the queen..i was a tourist myself about 10 years ago i went to buckingham palace and windsor castle...didnt even see a corgi..and neither did the hundreds of japs/chinks who also there them 2 days.

ohh no one is better than me lol you must have poor self esteem to say that

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Does the royal family actually have any power? To my understanding, however right it may be, they are nothing but figure heads politically, i know they command high respect and are basically above the laws of England, but if they want to make it law that everyone has to wear purple on wednesday, do they actually have that authority? if they dont, then whats the big deal? People like them, and wheres the harm? They do good from this Americans eyes, just as figureheads.

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Fucking racist retard spouting pointless shit.

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Does the royal family actually have any power? To my understanding, however right it may be, they are nothing but figure heads politically, i know they command high respect and are basically above the laws of England, but if they want to make it law that everyone has to wear purple on wednesday, do they actually have that authority? if they dont, then whats the big deal? People like them, and wheres the harm? They do good from this Americans eyes, just as figureheads.

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She opens Parliament, sounds like a formality, The PM has to be allowed in, once again a formality it appears, as he/she is elected by popular vote, could the queen really say no? (Has that happened recently?)

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She opens Parliament, sounds like a formality, The PM has to be allowed in, once again a formality it appears, as he/she is elected by popular vote, could the queen really say no? (Has that happened recently?)

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It's important to remember that the monarch can also dissolve parliament as she sees fit - even before an election. The idea is that she has the power to overturn any potential dictatorships before they occur.

Essentially she's our last line of defence, much like a presidential veto. Unfortunately like the veto the power is unlikely to ever be exercised since it would result in anarchy.

Another reason why the democratic systems in this country need to be overhauled

lol...the royal family..people too look up to?? are you kidding me mate? they are the fukin last people anyone should or would look up to...u have 2 flop excuses for princes, one a racist bigot and the other is just a fukin nonse who fulfils very little of his "duties"... a toffee nosed charles and a racist prince philip...then u have the brother - andrew who is is a fukin liberty to the tax payer ..and the list goes on...

royal fam = shambles.

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lol...the royal family..people too look up to?? are you kidding me mate? they are the fukin last people anyone should or would look up to...u have 2 flop excuses for princes, one a racist bigot and the other is just a fukin nonse who fulfils very little of his "duties"... a toffee nosed charles and a racist prince philip...then u have the brother - andrew who is is a fukin liberty to the tax payer ..and the list goes on...

royal fam = shambles.

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Originally posted by wob
still cant happen without her tho..end of the day who fuking voted her in lol..democracy lol...just read on bbc website the house the queen bought for andrew and fergie a whopping 15 million quid is practically in ruins now..fuking 15 million quid viva la revoloution

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In fairness, ours sell more papers than yours do

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In fairness, ours sell more papers than yours do

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I wish people here would stop equating "royalty" with "british royalty". Some of us come from civilised countries where the Queen is still respected.

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