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Posted by X69 on 12-09-2005 01:41 AM:


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Posted by covah on 12-09-2005 01:48 AM:

Wha...dats a spicey release.

Scanned through and didn't see any probs.

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Posted by vurtX on 12-09-2005 01:49 AM:

+
great quality pic
shite film

Posted by aXs-SVCD on 12-09-2005 01:51 AM:

damn, nice quality couldn't wait for this release, as much it goes for movie story line it self, who cares LOL this place is for quaity i like it grab the series you'll like it more

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Posted by Lightburn on 12-09-2005 01:53 AM:

Indeed, looks pretty amazing tbh.

Posted by Lightburn on 12-09-2005 01:54 AM:

looks pretty nice alright

Posted by pareidolia on 12-09-2005 01:57 AM:

Good telecine, also glad its a half decent movie. The audio kind of sucks, but is still ok, has alot of static throughout. Video is very good.

Video-9
Audio-4
Movie-Don't know could be good the animation version is cool.

Posted by Filicide on 12-09-2005 02:01 AM:

Great quality TC. XviD release is also nice.

http://www.vaako.com/rlssamples/Aeo...ViD-PRODiGY.png

Posted by Bullet on 12-09-2005 02:10 AM:

well this is weird. I have the same prob as with the just like heaven rls;..i d/led every codec but still have bad audio. As if someone is wisheling in the mic.

nobody has this prob???

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Posted by mhinz420 on 12-09-2005 02:13 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Bullet
well this is weird. I have the same prob as with the just like heaven rls;..i d/led every codec but still have bad audio. As if someone is wisheling in the mic.

nobody has this prob???


I have the same problem.......

audio sounds VERY hollow

Posted by renegade on 12-09-2005 02:24 AM:

NUKED 1x - cam.audio.not.mic

8/5/?

Posted by DP111 on 12-09-2005 02:45 AM:

No problems here whatsoever. no cam audio, just pure clean and crisp.
So from the sample, as a TC:-

v9
a9
m yet to see fully.

Posted by PlasmaWhore on 12-09-2005 02:50 AM:

Picture is good, audio has a bit of a hiss, but it doesn't sound that bad.

8/7/?

Posted by rattlesnake20 on 12-09-2005 02:55 AM:

vids good but shit audio simple as good rls as a whole better sound would make it near perfect heh

Posted by cheese05 on 12-09-2005 02:57 AM:

very impressed with the telecine video quality. could almost pass this up for a dvd rip.

audio on the other hand, is dissapointing.


9/6/?

so announcing multiple times that its been nuked will prevent people watching a good release? so u guys arent gonna watch it b/c theres a slight hiss?

btw, its unnuked now. dont think that every nuked release is fucked up anyhow.
raise the base, lower the treble.

Posted by Yoshitaka Ama on 12-09-2005 03:10 AM:

NUKED: SHIT AUDIO

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Posted by deathr0w_ on 12-09-2005 04:25 AM:

i am leeching the xvid now will see how that goes before i post a proper rating has to be better than watching the chronicles of narnia last night that was a let down

Posted by covah on 12-09-2005 05:06 AM:

Audio problems but I ran it through TMPEG into an Mpeg4 and it seems to be much better now.

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Posted by itr on 12-09-2005 05:10 AM:

Audio defintely isn't direct, but it is still decent.. same for xvid.

Posted by hairless69 on 12-09-2005 05:15 AM:

Looks real good to me! Great job Prodigy!!!

Posted by protekt0r on 12-09-2005 05:16 AM:

If this is a telecine, then I'm Bill Gates. And this release is way over-rated.

Video: good, but it's a telesync. AR is off a bit as well.

Audio: definitely CAM

Movie: ? Ain't watched it yet.

7/5/?

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Posted by TinyDick on 12-09-2005 05:22 AM:

8/6/0
i just dled the movie to watch the bitch glide on her tities

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Posted by cheese05 on 12-09-2005 06:19 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by protekt0r
If this is a telecine, then I'm Bill Gates. And this release is way over-rated.

Video: good, but it's a telesync. AR is off a bit as well.

Audio: definitely CAM

Movie: ? Ain't watched it yet.

7/5/?

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uh, ure on crack right? u seriously think this video is a telesync? LOL. plz dont give out misinformation to the public. most likely you leeched a different version thats a few days old. check again and makre sure u leeched the correct copy.

Posted by ZX3Junglist on 12-09-2005 06:41 AM:

you people do realize that telesync is cam video with a direct audio line, correct? (as in, not microphone audio)

I just watched it, it's a very nice looking cam with minimal AR distortion
The audio is crap, but bearable.
Anyhow, I see its been nuked.

RATING AS THE CAM IT IS:
8/7/6

Posted by deathr0w_ on 12-09-2005 06:46 AM:

this is a telecine for sure just checked out the xvid rls of it very nice Video 9 but the audio is reversed the sound is coming from the rears seems like they glitched up with there cables or something.

V.9
A.7 audio is still nice but reversed

Posted by please_dont_b on 12-09-2005 06:51 AM:

@protekt0r
I love the way you say that the video is a telesync but then you say the audio is CAM.

Well, seeing as the only difference between a CAM and a telesync is the sound being direct, are you saying this is a CAM?


Video: 7

Audio: 7

Movie: 1

I give the movie a 1 because they didn't do the one thing that happened in every episode of the Aeon Flux series.

I will not say what it is because of spoiler rules, but if you watched the Aeon Flux series, you are in for some dissapointment.

Posted by arachnid on 12-09-2005 07:09 AM:

i registerd to post this comment.
Just downloaded the xvid version of this. the hiss is there but only befor the movie starts. i have not watched it yet but flipped it to test. will wait till tomorrow night b4 i see it.

My post is not to get into its not a TC is a TS or whatever some of u folks seem to flame each other about. nore do i care to comment on what those terms even mean because it is not important.

That being said. the hiss is ONLY there in the very beginning (credits) part of the movie. other then that, on the version i have, there is no more hiss.. do not nuke (at leaste not the xvid version) as it is a fast release and nearly perfict IMO.

9/8/?

Posted by directv on 12-09-2005 07:20 AM:

i got the xvid earlier. kinda sounded direct (but thats on shit speakers turned up to the max cause the volume wasn't boosted on the encoding) but since it's 1:30 am and i wanna get to bed, i'll watch it on the tv later

v - 8
a - 8. even though it may not be direct, its way better than the 2 cams

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Posted by Neversoft on 12-09-2005 10:18 AM:

There's nothing wrong with the audio that a decent Hi-Fi or PC can't fix. Video is pretty spanking, dunno about the movie yet but I'm a Scifi whore so I'll probably like it.

V - 7
A - 6
M - Marmots!

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Posted by I am X on 12-09-2005 11:05 AM:

Video - 9
Audio - 6 (bassless)
Movie - 7.8

Video was excellent. This is most definitely a telecine, NOT a TS. Audio has no bass, and hiss is so low that it's not even a big issue. I ran the audio through Goldwave, added some bass, and filtered out the hiss. Not perfect, but much better now on a hi-fi sound system. For those of you that complain about releases that aren't "perfect", my advice to YOU is to get some software that can help with the "imperfections". Sometimes you have to learn to do things for yourself. For all we know, this may be the best release that comes out till retail, so you'd better be prepared to make due with it....

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Posted by djcyrax on 12-09-2005 12:06 PM:

there is no way in hell thats cam audio are you seeing the same release

video - 9
audio - 9
movie - 5 shitty acting for a shitty movie also not a big fan
of the orginal anime or mtv but ups for the release

Posted by Trybrow on 12-09-2005 01:41 PM:

Looks like something else

Im thinking this could be a Telesync with a hidef camera... any thoughts on that? audio is not direct and there are dust marks on the video as if it really was taken in a cinema. however the video is more smooth and detailed that previous telesyncs. Similarities to the RED EYE *telecine*

Posted by pelu on 12-09-2005 01:56 PM:

no way anyone should complain about this rls, of course the xvid version is a better encode than the vcd copy, but still to have it at this time is awesome, its really good. the sound is a bit low, but still awesome

v=8 just cause its a bit cropped
a=7 a bit low
m=6.563 just not quite my cup of tea

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Posted by Bullet on 12-09-2005 02:29 PM:

i didnt mend i didnt like the audio or something. Or that i am being picky. I just have bad audio. Like someone is putting the audio on fastforward. But it seems i am the only one;..so guess the prob is still with my codecs or on my pc

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Posted by Roger on 12-09-2005 03:54 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by please_dont_ban_me
@protekt0r
I love the way you say that the video is a telesync but then you say the audio is CAM.

Well, seeing as the only difference between a CAM and a telesync is the sound being direct, are you saying this is a CAM?


Video: 7

Audio: 7

Movie: 1

I give the movie a 1 because they didn't do the one thing that happened in every episode of the Aeon Flux series.

I will not say what it is because of spoiler rules, but if you watched the Aeon Flux series, you are in for some dissapointment.


you should stop reading only what VCDQ says, or perhaps read it correctly.

Telesync is done with a tripod and a profesional camera. Cam are shit done with a 300 euro camera.

This said, a "scene telecine" can be easyly done with a Canon XL2 camera and a smaller & flat theater screen. As ignorant as you look with you post, you prolly don't even know, you can do great video with a cheap camera just because of the projector & the screen you actualy filming on. All the color edition and the brightness can be fix using software such as Adobe Premiere.
The PRODIGY release has been taken from KINOFAN release. WICH precises its TELESYNC. in fact, TRUE TELESYNC and NOT TELECINE. a REAL TELECINE will actualy look way nicer then this, also, we all remember that *TELECINE* **caugh** release from PRODIGY with the guy standing up in the screen. ( haha )

and just to let you know, next release from prodigy or nbp or any of these shity bullshit stealer group will be "PROOF" AND they will call it as TELECINE.

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8233/proof0025le.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7176/proof0038cv.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9223/proof0010tf.jpg

Posted by protekt0r on 12-09-2005 04:35 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by cheese05
uh, ure on crack right? u seriously think this video is a telesync? LOL. plz dont give out misinformation to the public. most likely you leeched a different version thats a few days old. check again and makre sure u leeched the correct copy.


Uhhh no. I have the correct release. This is a TS. If you want to see a real TC, then check out Two for the Money. I've been around the scene long enuf to know the difference.

But for arguments sake, let's say it is a TC. It's still crap for a TC.

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Posted by protekt0r on 12-09-2005 04:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by please_dont_ban_me
@protekt0r
I love the way you say that the video is a telesync but then you say the audio is CAM.

Well, seeing as the only difference between a CAM and a telesync is the sound being direct, are you saying this is a CAM?


Dude, please think b4 you post. The audio on this is obviously stolen. Additionally, the video was almost certainly shot from the booth. IF this was a cam, the AR wouldn't be so good and it would look like complete crap. There are other things that distinguish a CAM from a TS besides direct audio. I'm guessing that you just read what other ppl say in these forums and think you know it all.

This is not a telecine. All this is is a silver that Prodigy picked up on the street and then they labeled it a telecine. If you want to see a telecine, go back a few weeks and look at two for the money. That's a real telecine.

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Posted by andrewslavin on 12-09-2005 05:55 PM:

good release

7/7/not watched yet

Posted by andrewslavin on 12-09-2005 05:58 PM:

Nice release

7/7/not watched yet

Posted by sloth1234 on 12-09-2005 07:06 PM:

I think (in attempt to clear up some confusion) that the people saying this is cam audio have only watched the sample. The scene they chose has both the characters in a cell where the audio is supposed to be somewhat "echoe-y"

skimmed through the rest of the xvid version and the audio seems fine to me, with great video quality only a week after theatrical release! So basically, everyone should quit bitching.

Posted by dw33p on 12-09-2005 08:46 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Roger
you should stop reading only what VCDQ says, or perhaps read it correctly.

Telesync is done with a tripod and a profesional camera. Cam are shit done with a 300 euro camera.

This said, a "scene telecine" can be easyly done with a Canon XL2 camera and a smaller & flat theater screen. As ignorant as you look with you post, you prolly don't even know, you can do great video with a cheap camera just because of the projector & the screen you actualy filming on. All the color edition and the brightness can be fix using software such as Adobe Premiere.
The PRODIGY release has been taken from KINOFAN release. WICH precises its TELESYNC. in fact, TRUE TELESYNC and NOT TELECINE. a REAL TELECINE will actualy look way nicer then this, also, we all remember that *TELECINE* **caugh** release from PRODIGY with the guy standing up in the screen. ( haha )

and just to let you know, next release from prodigy or nbp or any of these shity bullshit stealer group will be "PROOF" AND they will call it as TELECINE.

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8233/proof0025le.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7176/proof0038cv.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9223/proof0010tf.jpg


1) TS *is* cam video with direct audio, dont care how much of a big scener you think you are.
2) A cam is a TS without direct audio, no mather how much money ur ugly cam has costed.
3) TC's can be made on 2 ways. The expensive way, production firms use(d) that to digitalize there (old) movies, and the ceaper way, you can call it a Home TELECiNE machine if you want. Using a different technique as the other TC machine.
4)The PRODIGY release has been taken from KINOFAN release. Kino what?

If *you* dont know what you are talking about, then just shut the fuck up. It are russian PDVD's these groups are using, which are actually TS's (then they usually come from the scene) or TC's (when they have done it thereself, like this release).

Posted by Roger on 12-09-2005 11:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by dw33p
1) TS *is* cam video with direct audio, dont care how much of a big scener you think you are.
2) A cam is a TS without direct audio, no mather how much money ur ugly cam has costed.
3) TC's can be made on 2 ways. The expensive way, production firms use(d) that to digitalize there (old) movies, and the ceaper way, you can call it a Home TELECiNE machine if you want. Using a different technique as the other TC machine.
4)The PRODIGY release has been taken from KINOFAN release. Kino what?

If *you* dont know what you are talking about, then just shut the fuck up. It are russian PDVD's these groups are using, which are actually TS's (then they usually come from the scene) or TC's (when they have done it thereself, like this release).



I wish you would have been long enough here to see my previous post about *how to make a telesync*, but i guess as noob as you sound right now you prolly one of those prodigy dicks sucker

part of TELESYNC defenition on vcdquality.com is :

"A lot of the times a telesync is filmed in an empty cinema or from the projection booth with a professional camera, giving a better picture quality."

If you look correctly, or maybe you do some research, the real TELESYNC diferent, but i guess this is too hard for your IQ of 2 to really search what something is.

Also, there is no such things as 2 ways to make a TC, a TC is a digitaly captured source. it is the same thing as if you do digitalisation of negatives THATS digital, not using a camcorder on a screen to capture, not because your camera is digital that made your transfer digital. ALSO ... those ebay box that fit in front of the projector ain't digital EITHER.

You want to tell me i don't know what i'm talking about ? i suggest to check arround the forum you might find some that you never seen before and that will shout your mouth that is prolly as big as you ass being anal raped all day by your prodigy mofo teamates.

This said. good bye

Posted by protekt0r on 12-09-2005 11:39 PM:

quote:
1) TS *is* cam video with direct audio, dont care how much of a big scener you think you are.
2) A cam is a TS without direct audio, no mather how much money ur ugly cam has costed.


LOL. Go tell Centropy and maVen that the only difference between their releases and Hydro's releases is direct audio.

I think they would tell you to get bent.

Like I said earlier, there are other distinguishing factors between CAM's and TS's besides direct audio.

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Posted by cirr0 on 12-09-2005 11:55 PM:

v- 8.5 a-6 m- 3

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Posted by cherwonk on 12-10-2005 12:13 AM:

How can a group release a flick with such a good pic and such sh*tty sound?I will admit the movie isnt the greatest , but if you've got the video do it right .

9/5/5

Posted by Twisted Nerve on 12-10-2005 01:53 AM:

video quality very good, one of best TC i have seen, better than The Island, a very close 2nd to Unleashed, little cropped

audio is f'd up tho, if watching in surround system, vocal aspect comes from rear speakers mostly

best to disable rear speakers, and use tv speakers only

movie a bit "not as good as it should be"

tN

Posted by DnloderX on 12-10-2005 01:58 AM:

Video - 9
Audio - 7
Movie - 8

The video is great, very clean and crisp picture and doesn't seem to be any cropping at all at least that I noticed. Audio is a little muffled, but overall this is a great release! The movie was pretty good too.

Posted by manal on 12-10-2005 06:37 AM:

as stated before nuked for audio. they ran it bacwards as i have seen in a few past releases (( skeleton key comes to mind )) they have hte front audio in the back speakers. but i just switched hte channeles and it worked fine enough for me. Great picture quality though.

Posted by fakeout on 12-10-2005 06:44 AM:

A review of the XviD release: This is definitely a telecine and a quality one at that. The video is just as good as the Two for the Money TC. The faces look a bit squashed at times but sometimes they look fine so there might or might not be very slight AR issues. Playing it on my PC the audio is also very decent, only issues were a very slight hiss for a second at the start and then at the end credits you lose the English audio and hear some Russian voiceover. But these are minor issues. Thanks Prodigy for this great release.

Oh yeah, but the movie is pretty crap.

V: 8
A: 8
M: 5

Posted by TheVisionaryO on 12-10-2005 08:40 AM:

Great release, Audio could be alot better.

Video - 8.5
Audio - 5
Movie - 7 Not as bad as i thought it would be....

Posted by dontbegay on 12-10-2005 09:51 AM:

in 2 minds as to whether this is the best telesync ive ever seen or just a half decent telecine. the blotchiness right at the start on the dark intro makes me want to say this is a telesync but either way its fucking good.

video - 9
audio - 7 theres no fucking way this is cam audio, the quiet scenes are just too quiet, although i fell asleep about half way through the film.. my only niggle is the hiss, which can easily be killed by cutting the treble a bit.

movie- 2 as said before, i fell asleep half way through, it was THAT good.

Posted by please_dont_b on 12-10-2005 11:08 AM:

Roger & prot3kt0r

So what your saying is that if I took a $200 shit cam into a cinema that had headphone jacks and recorded the video, obviously shit video, and the audio directly from the headphone jack into an audio recorder, and synced it up later, that wouldn't be a TS?

If that is what you are saying, then why didn't any of the PreVail TS's get nuked for cam audio? They all had shitty video.

And you know that is how they got the sound. They don't have axx to theatre discs.

And only a group would screw the video like they have a huge problem of doing.

I should have worded my post better, yes, but the way you guys say it, the video has to be really good quality to be a TS.

And that is where our opinions differ. A TS CAN be better quality, but it doesn't have to be.

I wasn't really trying to be a dick, but it's just the way you worded your post that got me thinking.

I truly believe this is another russian TS torrent they picked up. Fuck it though, it's good enough for me to watch without bitching.

Posted by manal on 12-10-2005 04:33 PM:

please_dont_ban_me .

the audio here is shit because of hte quality. really its shit because of hte way it was encoded with the rear and front channels reversed.

Posted by tdavie on 12-10-2005 04:33 PM:

Stunning quality, crappy movie


Video: 10
Audio: 10
Movie: 1 (would have given it a zero if possible).

You know what Tom Srevo from MST3K would have said about this movie?

'I see your gums a flappin, but there's no sense coming out'.

It's so bad I love it.

Tom

Posted by neozen on 12-10-2005 04:33 PM:

9/8/?

If this is a telesync, then its like the greatest telesync video ever, and should be a 10 for video. The audio is a little hissy in some scenes, but its good enough for me.

Posted by SeeDee_MKII on 12-10-2005 08:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by manal
as stated before nuked for audio. they ran it bacwards as i have seen in a few past releases (( skeleton key comes to mind )) they have hte front audio in the back speakers. but i just switched hte channeles and it worked fine enough for me. Great picture quality though.


Hey manal would you like to paste a quick guide on how you switched the channels. much appreciated as i'm sure a few other ppl would like to know as well

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Posted by me-self on 12-10-2005 09:15 PM:

V: 7.5 (Nice quality, not matter if it is a TC or TS)

S: 7 (Starts off abit weird then it fine after that)

F: 6 (I am not a huge sci-fi person, weren't bad in parts)

I believe this is a TC, a russian one at that, the russian's bring out different TC, some are really nice and some are really bad, I.E harry potter TC ages ago was near dvd quality, the early TC os new XXX which was released by some german groups looked horrible, everyone thought it was a TS but its was a realllyyyyyyyy bad TC. I don't think you can be picky about the release, if it looks good and sounds good why sould it matter if its a TS or TC? just watch the dam film.

Posted by Goturenumba on 12-10-2005 10:18 PM:

Video = 9
Audio = 8
Movie = 8

Posted by SultrySalesma on 12-11-2005 12:15 AM:

V: 9 - Excellent picture. There was one or two parts where it was dark and I was unsure what I was looking at (that blimp thing). Not sure if that is the fault of the TC or movie itself. Other than that, great. No blur, no pixelation, no problems.

A: 7 - Everyone is complaining about the audio. I watched it through VLC on my TV. No problems what-so-ever. I'm use to turning my audio way up, so I didn't notice anything.

V: 1 - Shit. One of those films I'm glad I didn't pay for. Thanks, Prodigy!

Posted by m3h on 12-11-2005 12:53 AM:

i got the xvid release. the video quality of this telecine is great! audio is another story. still havent watched it.

video: 9
audio: 4.5

Posted by Red0ut on 12-11-2005 01:35 AM:

v - 9
a - 6
m - 6 (not a very good movie, but a very good message in the end of the film.)

Posted by bartleby on 12-11-2005 02:16 AM:

seems some of you are getting confused !!!!!!

The term Telecine is also used to refer to pirated releases of films created by digitally scanning a physical film print, as opposed to recording the projected image with a video camera. The quality of a Telecine release is better than a Telesync, but not as good as a DVD rip.

so !!! that was a telecine
and a telesync ?

Precisely telesync means a copy which was shot in an empty cinema or from the projection booth with a professional camera, directly connected to the sound source (often FM audio provided for the hearing-impaired, or from a drive-in theatre synched to a cam). google doesnt take long does IT ?

thats what vcd quality said too isnt it ?
no matter how good or bad picture quality is !!! it is what it is "!"

video = 8 not the best telecine but not the worse
audio =7

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Posted by Crazyglues on 12-11-2005 02:26 AM:

Are you kidding me..... you can't be serious

Are you kidding me, this is an unreal copy... I mean picture quality is so good I didn't know if this was the dvd, I had to go back and double check.... It's unreal.

10- for a telecine/I don't see how you can get better then this....

9.5- sound was fine for me and it's on 1 file xvid. unreal....

8.5- movie was ok answered alot of stuff the cartoon, I felt never did...

Again if this xvid copy is the one you have then welcome to heaven... I usually only keep dvdrips but for this one I have to make an exception... amazing job amazing....

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Posted by Roger on 12-11-2005 03:18 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by bartleby
seems some of you are getting confused !!!!!!

The term Telecine is also used to refer to pirated releases of films created by digitally scanning a physical film print, as opposed to recording the projected image with a video camera. The quality of a Telecine release is better than a Telesync, but not as good as a DVD rip.

so !!! that was a telecine
and a telesync ?

Precisely telesync means a copy which was shot in an empty cinema or from the projection booth with a professional camera, directly connected to the sound source (often FM audio provided for the hearing-impaired, or from a drive-in theatre synched to a cam). google doesnt take long does IT ?

thats what vcd quality said too isnt it ?
no matter how good or bad picture quality is !!! it is what it is "!"



You have to be FUCKING IDIOT to make a shitty video if you have EMPTY THEATER AND PROFESIONAL CAMERA.



and no, scene telesync are crap cams, made with crap devices, with not empty room not into a empty theater. AND RUSSIAN SHIT AREN'T DIGITALY CAPTURED BUT MADE AS A REAL TELESYNC SHOULD BE. INTO A EMPTY ROOM WITH DIRECT RUSSIAN AUDIO ON WITH A PROFESIONAL CAMERA. probably a panasonic 24p.

Posted by protekt0r on 12-11-2005 04:52 AM:

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Originally posted by please_dont_ban_me
Roger & prot3kt0r

So what your saying is that if I took a $200 shit cam into a cinema that had headphone jacks and recorded the video, obviously shit video, and the audio directly from the headphone jack into an audio recorder, and synced it up later, that wouldn't be a TS?

If that is what you are saying, then why didn't any of the PreVail TS's get nuked for cam audio? They all had shitty video.

And you know that is how they got the sound. They don't have axx to theatre discs.

And only a group would screw the video like they have a huge problem of doing.

I should have worded my post better, yes, but the way you guys say it, the video has to be really good quality to be a TS.

And that is where our opinions differ. A TS CAN be better quality, but it doesn't have to be.

I wasn't really trying to be a dick, but it's just the way you worded your post that got me thinking.

I truly believe this is another russian TS torrent they picked up. Fuck it though, it's good enough for me to watch without bitching.


Very strictly speaking you're right. If the audio in this is CAM audio, then it is a CAM. However, in my opinion (which doesn't matter), there's a big difference between this and a CAM. I have yet to see a CAM that's watchable (again, in my opinion). I just don't bother with CAMs.

To me and a lot of other people, there are major differences between CAMs and a TS besides audio.

As for "groups" pirating this stuff... it just doesn't happen that way anymore. Nearly every TC (and some TS's) are just a russian silvers. So I don't give any props to Prodigy or anyone other russian group. The only groups deserving of respect around here (IMO again) is maVen, ORC, and DVD screener groups. Those guys are the ones will balls and risking their tails. Do I appreciate what Prodigy does? Absolutely. But make no mistake, if Prodigy were to quit another Russian group would pick up the slack. The same can't be said for REAL homemade TS/CAM groups like Centropy. To this day no one (IMO) has matched Centropy's quality in TS's.

This post will be prolly get me banned but oh well. Prodigy risks almost nothing releasing stuff. The only advantage they have is a fast link and access to Pre's. Big frigin deal. Seriously, how hard is it to buy/steal a silver and re-encode to DIVX, SVCD, whatever and upload it? And before you say Prodigy isn't a silver release group, then why in the hell is there such disparity in their release quality? Same w/ NBP. Logic would dictate that if they did their own TC's they would look all the same (or at least very similar). The last 2 Prodigy "telecines" have been nuked for being mislabeled TS's. All they do is watch these silvers and guess as to whether it's a TS or TC, RAR it, and upload it. Because their frigin retards, they usually get it wrong and tag it as a TS. OK, I'm getting off on a tangent here so I'll just shuddup now.

The last real telecine I saw was Two for the Money by NBP. Still a Russian silver probably, but it was the real deal. If a release is truly a telecine, you should barely be able to tell the difference between it and a DVD rip.

Anyhow, sorry for being so defensive and rude. Didn't mean to come off that way.

P.S., I still think this is a telesync. :-)

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Posted by protekt0r on 12-11-2005 04:55 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by bartleby
seems some of you are getting confused !!!!!!

The term Telecine is also used to refer to pirated releases of films created by digitally scanning a physical film print, as opposed to recording the projected image with a video camera. The quality of a Telecine release is better than a Telesync, but not as good as a DVD rip.


Analog telecines do exist and are wildly popular because they are cheap.

-protekt0r

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Posted by pjfan0281 on 12-11-2005 08:02 AM:

video is great. audio is a little weird. i had the same issue as someone before. when played in surround sound system, all the audio came from rear speakers only. had to hook my player directly into tv and avoid surround system altogether to watch it, weird. anyone sound is def not cam.

video - 10!
audio - 7
movie - 6 (interesting, but not enough)

Posted by charliechan10 on 12-11-2005 02:27 PM:

V/9
A/8
M/6
If you complain about this release go see a doctor to check your pee brain out,no release of this movie gets near the quality of this one.

Posted by Stackato on 12-11-2005 06:50 PM:

Audio was not that hot though.. Video near perfect.. Charlize was looking fine! v-9 au-5 m-7

Posted by Yomanda on 12-12-2005 10:05 PM:

Video 8
Audio 6 (Tin can audio, no bass)
Movie ?

Thanks Prodigy (my fav band as well )

Posted by SleepysHell on 12-13-2005 03:55 PM:

nice release
thanks
9/5/6

Posted by White Rabbit on 12-17-2005 04:48 PM:

i thought this was close to the telecine of the island, excellent colors and no pixelation.

v 9 (excellent for a telecine)

a 7.5 (pretty good)

m ? (yet to watch)

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the difference between compression and encoding is:

compression software works the same way as trying to get The 404, who is 350lbs, through a normal door. its method is to basically keep kicking The 404 until he gets thru the door. This works quickly, but leaves a nasty mess.

encoding software is the equivalent of The 404 going on a diet and walking thru the door. takes longer and sometimes more skill, but ultimately worth it.

Posted by on 12-19-2005 06:45 PM:

Video 9 - awesome quality, doesn't get much better
Audio 8 - also spot on
Movie 6 - not a huge fan

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Posted by CCkid on 12-22-2005 05:38 PM:

Strange film but I enjoyed it alot. Video is excellent. Audio is almost bass free and a bit tinny. Thanks for the release!

V-9
A-6.5
M-8

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Posted by dukenukem on 01-28-2006 11:20 AM:

YEEEESSSS!

Nice job. Gives reason to have great hope in releases by them. Looks great. Really!

Video - 9.5
Audio - 7 (headphones w/ EQ helps, though)
Movie - 8

Keeping your standards high is key. Thank you!

Isn't what's her name awesome in this film or what?? And she was "Monster" (see that film and compare)? Damn! What an actress!
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