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-- Star Wars Episode 2 *PROPER* - TELESYNC - SEVcD (http://forum.vcdq.com/showthread.php?threadid=2843)

Just saw the sample and according to TMPEG's de-multiplex tool, the sample meets the NTSC VCD standards:

MEPG-1 Video 352x240 29.97 fps 1150kbps
MPEG-1 Audio Layer-2 44100Hz 224kbps

Is TMPEG wrong or is this just mislabeled ... or is the sample a
re-encode of the SeVCD.?

WOW

RESPECT TO ALL CREWz


Everyday another "BETTER" Star Wars Episode 2 Release!

good vid, hows the audio?

best release of Episode2 till now. Hope it does noth desync like the sample :\

quality is decent, the picture is a tad blurry, but other then that, this is pretty watchable, unless your picky.... don't wait for the ctp ep2, they say they wont release it... we'll see... 7/7

the sound sounds fairly decent, at least it's not hollowed

Not a bad release - decent sound, pic is watchable ... shame we're not getting the CTP SVCD's :P I've already watched the FTF of this movie so i'm not gonna get this again but sample isn't bad ...

Just seen the sample......and the picture and audio are much better than the ftf release...gonna grab this version..

How is the video/audio compared to the HafVCD release ?

im really hopin ctp will rls this in one of there svcds!!! that would so kick ass...

havent checked this one out yet, tryin to get the sample to see how it is image looks pretty good and watchable, cant wait to check it out!

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PS. Want Episode 2 in this quality? Dont count on us to bring it to you. the unwanted media attention the current releases has drawn has made us more than a little reluctant to put a release out. Having said that, we are sure someone else will come to the rescue, for all you Star Wars fans out there.

Centropy

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is the runtime really 1 hr 32 min as its stated in the nfo or was it just a typo?

looks good, I grabbed the FTF TS for this one but I think I'm gonna download this one also

Yeah is this vid/aud better than the hafvcd release?

Yea good idea Centropy cuz who knows if they include those watermarks which could be unique to each theater and pinpoint the location where you do business. (If that's even how you do it heh....) Not worth it for one high profile release such as this one. Look forward to more releases from you guys in the future.

As for the quality of this movie, sound was decent and complete and the picture was clearer than the previous rls's but still a lil blurry to watch even on my tv. Otherwise, an excellent rls and props on the quickness of gettin it out.

Looks like a reencode of the hafvcd version to me.

This release is definately not a reencode of anyone else, its very well done, of course not as good as Centropy, but not bad

7/7

Lot of misinformed opinions

Isonews has mislabeled this as a dupe.

What do the FTF, HafVCD and SeVCD rips have in common?

They all come from the same NYC source.

Someone, possibly the Mob, has made a VHS Telesync of the film using a high quality cam, and is selling it on the streets of New York. It's this, or copies of this, that the groups are going out and buying and encoding. (saves doing it yourselves right guys )

The FTF was at least a 3rd gen copy, probably more judging by the amount of VHS signal degredation, the HafVCD is clearer so is probably closer to the source than the FTF.

This copy is definitley taken from a 1st gen VHS, it comes from the same recording as the other 2 releases, which is why the audio is missing in the same places as the others, but in no way is it a dupe, or a re-encode of another group's release. The video and audio is of a higher fidelity, impossible to do with a re-encode.

This version is properly framed with a square picture, and doesn't suffer from single channel sound.

If you only download one pirate copy of star wars this summer, make it this one

... New to posting here, didn't know all posts were moderated :P

"Our first TS release for the group. Apologies for the source, we got this from an analogue cam instead of a dv, but still the best
copy thats available to date. Enjoy our release!"

A tad full of our selves now arent we? The best rls of it .... hmm

horrible reencode.

WTF

THIS IS NOT A REENCODE AND I AHVE THE FULL CD WTF IS UP WITH U GUSY MAN

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Originally posted BY kjeks

Where the heck do i get .cue files for this thing?


lol

ok, im not sure here. but budsmoker here decided to write the following....

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SeVcd's Starwars Episode 2 Is Only 1Hr32Mins
At Least FTF's Release is the full film
Respect To Ftf
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im not sure because i havne't donwloaded either of the 2 groups releases because im actually going to witness this movie in a theatre.... but.... both of the groups' nfo's say the movie is 1hr 32min runtime... so i dont get why you are puttin SeVcd down when FTF's rip advertises the exact same runtime... seems to me like u need to get both releases to decide that argument before you start puttin a group down

peace out

Hmm, I wonder how much better it can be though..

Nice Input here..

FTF Runtime

FTF runtime is 2h 13min and 55 secs
while SeVcd's Starwars Episode 2 Is Only 1Hr32Mins
big difference,
I Time magazine Lucas even says Episode II is over 2 hours long, so how could SeVcd's release be the full movie.

Any true Star wars fan would be happy enough just to have FTF's release. (which looks damn good on my 27inch Sony TV)

this craps out of sync, dont judge by the sample pic, not worth the dl

Hmm

Ok, why are ppl sayin that FTF has the full movie and SEVcD only has a 1h 32min vid? The movie is 132min long, maybe they just screwed up the nfo. Who here has seen the full SEVcD ver? I think maybe the guy that wrote the nfo wansn't too quick and thought 132min was 1h 32min. Well I'll let you guys kno, I'm almost done getting it.

Peace,
Dio

typo

those were typos......instead of 1hr 32 min like it says its 132 min or 2 hr 12 min....

yep its pretty good..... compaired to the ftf version.....the nfo has the same mistake that ftf had saying it goes for 1hr32min...it ment 132min

Reencode of havcd!

Are you people blind? This is so obviously just a reencode of HAFVCD and not a real new release. It's just the picture of HAFVCD zoomed in and cropped. This was rightfully nuked everywhere...

It is a better quality than the FTF. Good work!

from the sample

Looks like this is much cleaner then the FTF version from the sample i grabbed. Its a little cropped on the sides but thats totally acceptable. Its also not at an angle like the FTF version. If CTP releases a ver it will probably look dope, but till then this is the best I've seen of Ep 2.

i think this is what they ment

hey i realy think that 1 hour 32 mins was ment to be 132 mins and they wrote it wrong it the only thing that can make since

WHy do all these VCD's say that runtime for this movie is 1 Hour 32 minutes in NFO files while officiall movie theater info on web says the movie run time should be 2 hours 12 minutes?!?!?!!!!!!!!

http://www.movietickets.com/movie_d...114&house_pos=1

?????

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You guys are off your rockers, THIS IS A RECODE, as I was working on the exact same thing when this group pre'de this release. Its a recode of the HAFVCD, compare the picture, its been cropped and saturation / colour sorted a little and picture has been sharped up, I GET THE EXACT -= EXACT =- same results in TMPEG if I encode the hafvcd release. Try it for yourself, all you have to do in term of the audio if recode it to DUEL channel or JOINT channel and normalize it, this will knock volume down a bit, and also replicate the left channel to the right (you may have noticed this isn't a proper stero sound release.)

BUT Still, its a good release, saved me finished cd 2 that I was doing Props for speed

Has anyone else download this version cos mine starts at the first scene not with the openin credits, also i have the other two versions and this one seems to be the clearest sound and picture and is not the same as the other two as the second rls by Haf the camera angle is off centre where as this is dead straight. Good release by all accounts.

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Originally posted by eric
this craps out of sync, dont judge by the sample pic, not worth the dl

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no the movie is out of sync, not just the sample

yup total reencode. I just did my own version, copying the audio over onto both channels, and ran it through tmpeg. same results really, though I didn't crop. just sharpened a bit.

Well, I'm watching it right now, looks perfectly synced to me.

Re: from the sample

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Originally posted by metric152
Its also not at an angle like the FTF version.

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AngelDeath is Here
Stupidity is Universal, Wisdon is from Within.

hmmm, good call on centropy's part

i havent watched the SeVCD version yet, but i hear its ok, and im not going to camp out in front of theaters to see a movie...

but i hope that there'll be a better release after it comes out in theaters

From looking at the samples:

* This looks like a re-encode of the HaF release.
* They cropped it differently so you loose some of the top of the pic (noticable), and a tiny bit at right hand side. The AR is slightly squiffy because of this (not much, but it is)
* They fixed the audio (HaF had dodgy sound - wasn't stereo?)
* It *does not* look as good as the HaF release IMO. (Judging the SEVcD sample against the HaF full film at the same points in the movie)

edit for speeling

SAD WEEK FOR VCD's

I have downloaded FTF/Haf and sev and they all got the same sound problems in the same part of the movie, the video is the same just edited the sharpness and sev cut out the intro because that is when the sound fucks up. I was in the sev vcd channel "flaming" them because they said they recorded the movie themself and asked me wtf do you think? We are lamers? Simple answer yes. This really dissapoints me and other people I have shared the movie with. Btw if you lower your resolution and turn up sharpness and edit the ftf release for about a half hour it looks better than haf's release from what I have experienced. All 3 of these movies i believe are from the same source.
If you dont believe me try this shit yourself, download all 3 movies and try.
defcon

You can do this yourself with TMPGEnc

click on the advanced settings....you can change what it looks like quite a bit...you can definately sharpen the image... remove some of the blue coloring and adjust the brightness / contrast to make it look better as well as fix the audio.... jus takes time and patience...

so, this (none) version so far has the logos and the opening scroll ??? not sure if i could watch a star wars movie without that ...

The sample looked nice quality wise .. i am old school .. I downloaded Titanic many years ago .. a 3 hour movie in 180 MB ... so .. i have seen quality coming up strong ..

it is not a DVD screener ... but this time it seems we only have to wait until November to get the DVD !

i hope to have all the rars together for CD 1 very soon !

and -> i sense much emotion here !!

why are people here bashing each other's heads left and right ??

P

Never saw any advanced settings in TMPGe..were?..maybe your thinking of VirtualDub?

Hi all.
I'm not satisfied with the quality of my FTF release either, so I'm writing in about TMPGEnc like the people above.
To those who have downloaded the software: What settings did you tweak? Specifically how much? I'd like to get some sort of advance clue before I use the software so I don't waste much time. (FYI: I downloaded the software from http://www.tmpgenc.net/e_main.html) Let me know. If the releases really have come from just one source, then perhaps the same settings should be tweaked for all releases.
Thanks in advance.

listen asshole

You know wat, FTF has the shittiest quality movies out there.. I mean THe SeVCD is good.. So be quiet and know what your talking about before you say it

-Dedicated user

Burned all 3 samples and watched on my DVD player. None of the samples were really good quality. The FTF and HafVCD source look to be identical. Both of these were filmed from the right side, that gives the screen a trapezoid shape. You can also see the same white dashed line in the upper left corner of each sample's frame and they both have left channel sound only. They are both blurry and blocky but the HafVCD sample seemed a little clearer than the FTF. The SEVcD sample is framed properly but may be cropped. It has dual channel sound that appears to be the same track (mono sound), that is slightly out of sync. The SEVcD video was the most grainy with the most digital blocks that we see occasionally in poor encodes. Since the SEVcD sample had the sound out of sync and looked the most blocky, I'm gonna download the HafVCD version and hope that some other group comes out with a better copy before too long. This movie deserves a better release than any of these groups have provided so far.

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Originally posted by Bud-man
Never saw any advanced settings in TMPGe..were?..maybe your thinking of VirtualDub?

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hafvcd encode

Are you people blind? This is obviously a reencode of HAFVCD, its the same picture just zoomed and cropped...

I just want better audio?

I mean, come on, that's what those hearing/headphone ports are just BEGGING to be used for. Use them.

Re: hafvcd encode

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Originally posted by poing
Are you people blind? This is obviously a reencode of HAFVCD, its the same picture just zoomed and cropped...

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This release skips horribly in my dvd player (Samsung M301) ,not sure why everything else runs fine that ive tried (have tons of svcd/vcd),I even tried burning it twice and used differant media ,both burns work fine in my PC tho (?) I havent seen the other releases but the video quality is pretty crappy overall and the audio is a bit distorted.

does anyone else have a deja vu about 54 minutes into CD 1 ??/ seems there is some loop ! probably 2 minutes long !

re-encode or not, this is still the best looking release of ep2 so far in my opinion, i sat through the FTF version, it was kinda like watching pirate japanamation after a few minutes.....then the hafvcd version (only made it through the 1st disc) and it was great quality....

this one is good with out the effort to transcode it with tmpg, and i am certainly not opposed to trying that, but hey...this one is the best of the 4 releases that have come from the NY bootleg!

SEVcD = FTF with color correction and editing

I have seen this mentioned elsewhere, but I will mention it again here. This "new" release is just a reworked FTF version. So far there has been one release, and every other one is just remade by using editing and enhancement techniques.

Anyone with a program like TMPGenc and a little time can redo it and rename it.
I think the people that originally posted it should still get the credit (or blame, if you are lucasfilm) until a new version is released.

I only post this to save you the time of a repeat download.

good enough to watch but i'd wait for an svcd to be released n e day now!

hmm... 4 pages of repetitive information hehe

Oh well.. I expect a DVD screener anyday now. So i'm gonna wait for my DivX with 5.1 hehe

Do you really think Lucas will release a DVD screener ??
I highly doubt it.

Your just gunna have to settle for the CAM bootlegs for now till the Official DVD is released.

what i think about the rls'

video I audio
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#1 SeVCD I #1 SeVCD
#2 VCD World I #2 FTF
#3 HafVCD I #3 tie between
#4 FTF I #4 hafvcd and vcdworld
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thats my story and i'm sticking to it!


i currently use the SeVCD version for dubbing to tape or just to watch on my own

needed some work - but not that bad at all

Pic quality is pretty good for a TS.

Audio was good, but right channel was out and there was no intro.

Ended up demuxing & fixing audio by copying left channel to the right (and applied the same audio fix to CD 2).

Took the intro from FTF's rls & replaced their broken intro audio w/ the intro music from episode 4 (it's the same track).

Spliced the re-worked intro onto the the beginning of CD 1.

Demuxed it again & smoothed audio transition between the intro & the feature in CoolEdit.

Now I'd give it an 8+ rather than the six I gave it to start with.

BTW, mpg encoding was wacked too - both discs were about 800MB each out of the bin, but when remuxed after repair they came in at around 700 each, which i would have expected in the first place based upon the playing time (~132 minutes)

Considering the amount of work involved, I gotta ask, where do these boys get off calling this "Proper"?

If they had just spent another three or four more hours on their compilation & encode, this release coulda gotten an 8.5 rating here, not the 6.7 it's holding at now...

BR

}:-o ==()

hey Bong Ripper..maybe you should release YOUR version..hehe..sounds better than the ones I got

I agree, you should release your version, I have a version made up out of the different releases, the main film is the SeVCD version but it has the start and is in stereo, well mono through both speakers.
I am trying to add the start and end music from my episode 2 soundtrack to the film but getting it to sync isnt easy.

When episode 1 was released, I had a vcd which was taken from a screener tape, the only thing wrong with it was that it had subtitles along the bottom, apart from that it was great, the sound was clear and the picture was clear, not very sharp but nice.
I say give it 3-6 weeks and there will be a copy out just as good.

anyway ,this rls is good

SEVcD is not PROPER

This SEVcD version says PROPER but PROPERs release has 3 cds.

SEVcD

Err whoops I was looking at a different release.

BongRipper Release

You should release your version. I am sure everyone would greatly appreciate your efforts.

Star Wars

Movie was along time waiting. The Quality was so-so but the audio was shit
Centropy where are you?

Rumours say SEVcD is the Centropy version ... it was their first release and released thru same channels as Centrophys.

Remember the last sentence from New Guy nfo?

I personally don't give a crap weather it is or not..

A72

bongripper

hey bongripper...how did you copy the audio to the 2nd channel? did you use cooledit for that also?

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Originally posted by Mathesar
This release skips horribly in my dvd player (Samsung M301) ,not sure why everything else runs fine that ive tried (have tons of svcd/vcd),I even tried burning it twice and used differant media ,both burns work fine in my PC tho (?) I havent seen the other releases but the video quality is pretty crappy overall and the audio is a bit distorted.

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outkast2g
hey bongripper...how did you copy the audio to the 2nd channel? did you use cooledit for that also?

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hey bongripper!

how do you put the audio track form episode 4 over the one in the mpeg?