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Posted by on 06-17-2005 04:10 PM:

looks like a good cam from sample.

7/6/9

Posted by deano21 on 06-17-2005 04:15 PM:

7/7/?

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Posted by prnybk on 06-17-2005 04:16 PM:

Nuked invaid frame rate

Posted by bmvtoys on 06-17-2005 04:27 PM:

Seriously, this is utter crap. The video is decimated, they use tmpgenc to reduce the flicker and reduce it to a 24fps framerate. This makes the movie stutter and go out of sync constantly.

This is the exact same silver as the pot rls, both are missing footage.

The audio is "ok".

Personally, i would stay away from this if you have the chance.

2/5/-

Posted by NoNe23 on 06-17-2005 04:42 PM:

Confirm This

quote:
Originally posted by deano21
7/7/?

Are You Sure Have You Downloaded THis TO say This About The CamEx Release?

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Posted by scousethief on 06-17-2005 04:49 PM:

utter crap 4,2,?

Posted by workz on 06-17-2005 05:00 PM:

Same copy as POT's release, missing same parts

4/6/8

Posted by moby008 on 06-17-2005 05:07 PM:

this release is bad
I had sync problems, and I missed atleast 20mins
there was nothing proper about it

3/6/6

Posted by kukacomone on 06-17-2005 05:08 PM:

v - 3
a - 7
m - havent seen yet

Posted by Neversoft on 06-17-2005 05:16 PM:

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Posted by IRC_Moviefan on 06-17-2005 05:17 PM:

I agree with bmv , this grp keeps propering other CAM groups non stop, but they are propering with crap stuff as they dont know how to encode. Two releases in a row now the framerate was super messed making the picture jumpy , and causing out of sync.

AVOiD - Horrible flicker , messed framerates

Also , why a PROPER CAM ?? ... especially if its the same silver , thx for wasting our time.

Posted by terminal on 06-17-2005 05:41 PM:

from sample this looks very bad flickers and is very blocky and thats with not much movement going on the colors are ok sound is ok for a cam normal hollow sounding stuff 2/7/x

Posted by Detour on 06-17-2005 06:49 PM:

Almost unwatchable! Just wait for a decent release with all the footage intact. This would look horrible if converted to NTSC for burning, what with all the flicker and drop-outs present.

Posted by Dodgy Del on 06-17-2005 07:21 PM:

forget this one. POTS release all over again.

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Posted by mattmatt02 on 06-17-2005 07:31 PM:

they said POT's was missing 20mins footage on their nfo and so theyve released a proper. they must be kinda thick to not realise its exactly the same silver, maybe even a re-encode of pot's??? this group havent exactly had any releases that would make history have they? still has the same friggin missing parts

as a cam (besides missing parts)

7/7/?

note to groups- stop releasing this crappy silver!!

(props on effort tho!)

Posted by Mollins on 06-17-2005 08:29 PM:

This release is completely crap, i mean, POT should just drop it, and give up, TUN are far superior

Posted by Mollins on 06-17-2005 08:54 PM:

what the hell is the point in fixing a shitty POT?
No one will want it FFS!

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Posted by Teasy on 06-17-2005 09:04 PM:

Definitely wait for a better version.

I went to the cinema to see the movie today. What can I say? Batman Begins is what the Batman movies should have been right from the start. The single best super hero movie l've ever seen and the best action movie I've seen for years. As I left the cinema I could barely believe what I'd just seen.

Posted by rahjmh2 on 06-17-2005 09:27 PM:

missing scenes as stated above .. Batman Begins is the well worth paying reg price to go see in the theatres

5/5/8

Posted by crookite on 06-17-2005 09:31 PM:

dam, wheres a good one of these comming from, im just about holding off watching a shit release, from sample

2/2/?

Posted by Changz on 06-17-2005 10:37 PM:

there's two TS's floating around tho' they are French & Russian, I have no doubt something much more satisfying will be released very very soon.

Posted by xRONiNx on 06-17-2005 11:01 PM:

V: 4
A: 5
M: 10

Went to theatres for this one...OMFG!!! The Bat is back.... On with the RLS...

Ya know I swear I've seen this source somewhere else...

STOP THE GARBAGE!!! Cmon now ppl... you are not cool if you release a proper thats just as garbage as the original nuked product...We appreciate the effort, but minus a few billion points for retardedness...

NOTE: 6/21/05: Found Batman.Begins.Internal.SVCD.TS-Correlation
downloading now... will find out whats up soon...

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Posted by pegg on 06-17-2005 11:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Teasy
Definitely wait for a better version.

I went to the cinema to see the movie today. What can I say? Batman Begins is what the Batman movies should have been right from the start. The single best super hero movie l've ever seen and the best action movie I've seen for years. As I left the cinema I could barely believe what I'd just seen.

So you can confirm he current releases are missing 20 mins?

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Posted by Fordirelifesa on 06-17-2005 11:25 PM:

Just as I wrote in the POT thread. This release is not worth getting either. My reasons: Dull colors, bad framerate, flicker, pixelated. Sound, audible, which is good, but with bad video, who cares.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/LifeSuxLoveIsWar/Camex.jpg

CaMeX - CAM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/LifeSuxLoveIsWar/German.jpg

ECP (German) - Telecine

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Posted by b2d327 on 06-18-2005 01:16 AM:

3/4/9

Video quality was pretty bad but watchable after adjusting the settings on my tv. A few minutes were obviously edited out just before the batmobile scene with Morgan Freeman and a short period where the cam is moved out of position and you get a shot of one of the pillars in the movie theater.
Audio was hollow sounding. Adjusting the treble helped a little but not much. Short burst of laughter during a scene where Bruce cracks a joke with Alfred; someone also has a baby in the theater. Audio also goes slightly out of sync around the last 20 minutes.
Excellent movie nonetheless. I recommend seeing it in a theater but if you can't make it to one, wait for a better release.

Posted by gregtheman on 06-18-2005 01:28 AM:

what a pile of shite, blurry as hell and shite sound. not putting the group down but piss poor
2/5/?

Posted by Sarky on 06-18-2005 02:16 AM:

Terrible

WHat can i say.... JUST POOR POOR POOR

this is a terrible attempt to redo Pot's version by the look of it... an the same parts are missing. Bad framerate an terrible pixelation.

Sarky

Posted by virtualpal on 06-18-2005 03:20 AM:

this is NOT a re-encode of the POT release, in POTs release the camer puts a coat over the camera at about 2 minutes in, this one shows the whole screen for that 2 minutes, so it cant be the same code, I dont know what you guys have d/loaded but its not this one,
this is blury and has crap sound just like the POT release but it is complete and from a different source.
v4
a5
m6.5

Posted by Nodders on 06-18-2005 04:47 AM:

Bad picture/Bad sound/Bad movie

Posted by concius on 06-18-2005 09:59 AM:

nice work camex, there is the deleted scene, obvious from the jump, but nice cam none the less.
video 4.0 for the loss.
audio 5.0 little scratchy and there is an apparent hum.
movie 8.0 and thats because this is the best batman to hit the theaters is a long time!

Posted by Teasy on 06-18-2005 02:18 PM:

quote:
So you can confirm he current releases are missing 20 mins?

No sorry, I got the POT release but it was so poor that I only watched the first 10 minutes of it.

quote:
Bad picture/Bad sound/Bad movie

Maybe you should watch it in the cinema instead of a crap cam? Then you'd realise what a fantastic movie this is.

Posted by princejay on 06-18-2005 05:58 PM:

batman missin

the movie missin still 20 minutes when he in court bam next thing u know fire and that japenese place where he learning

Posted by Mollins on 06-18-2005 06:27 PM:

I've got the TS/TC but, its dubbed in Russian, so I was gonan try mave audio from this to that, but of no avail!

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Posted by monte1911 on 06-18-2005 07:52 PM:

after watching this release I'm seriously considering learning German...

Posted by manofice on 06-19-2005 02:11 AM:

try maybe this one?
Batman.Begins.Cam.SVCD.REAL.PROPER-oFFEND

Posted by rahjmh2 on 06-19-2005 03:38 AM:

Batman.Begins.Cam.SVCD.REAL.PROPER-oFFEND
Now this release has no missing parts its the russion video reencoded with american audio

Posted by AddNtoX on 06-19-2005 04:45 AM:

i scanned that rls there are some major major sync issues on it, and its made up of the TC and the cams and different cam audios to make a complete movie...watchable but damn did they fuck the sync up

Posted by Mollins on 06-19-2005 04:51 AM:

come on TUN!
Make us a Shexay TC/TS in English!

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Posted by manofice on 06-19-2005 06:42 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by AddNtoX
i scanned that rls there are some major major sync issues on it, and its made up of the TC and the cams and different cam audios to make a complete movie...watchable but damn did they fuck the sync up

Are you serious?! I'm almost done watching that and their are no sync issuies on my dvd player at all! I don't know what your talking about. I give props to the encoder.

Posted by monte1911 on 06-19-2005 07:35 AM:

i saw a sample for the offend release, looks promising, but I'm going to catch Batman in theatres and grab a high qual TC when it comes out.

Posted by Methadon on 06-19-2005 07:44 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by manofice
try maybe this one?
Batman.Begins.Cam.SVCD.REAL.PROPER-oFFEND

Can't find any online bots for this one. Noticed that there's a kvcd from scorpio, too. Anybody know which version the kvcd is?

::EDIT:: KVCD=Gay Reencode - NS::

Posted by max2 on 06-19-2005 07:49 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by manofice
try maybe this one?
Batman.Begins.Cam.SVCD.REAL.PROPER-oFFEND

Yep this one is wonderful and unoffical! I love unoffical releases!

Posted by mattmatt02 on 06-19-2005 01:10 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by bmvtoys
Personally, i would stay away from this if you have the chance

i agree, but how can you stay away if you have the chance? its not like were being forced to d/l it and if we can we could 'try' and get away from it! lol!

anyway, this is worse than POT's rls and overall, this release is pure shite. seriously, the huge crap i did in my toilet last night was more attractive and i would probably choose to watch 2hrs of that than this!!!

as a cam:

v 3 (blurry, dark, pixelated crap)

a 6 (average cam, only thing good about this rls)

m ? (cant possibly watch any of the copys out, too broke to go an see!)

overall, CaMeX, please lighten up, learn to encode, get a good source, and then, just then, i might get more of your releases. stop wasting your time!!

i will be waiting on a new release but thanks anyway to all the groups that released this, even CaMeX for their effort lol!

-edit- and the svcd by oFFEND isnt brilliant, its made up from numerous sources, is very pixelated like TUN's mr and mrs smith telesync (even on telecine bits), it is blurry and sound is cam sound. keep waitin, a good 1 will be here soon probably

Posted by Warl0k on 06-19-2005 02:16 PM:

Batman Begins CAMeX

5/5/4

This is a bad encoding, and it does look exactly like the POT but porely re- encoded, POT worked for me, it's ok.. for now

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Posted by karchambault on 06-19-2005 04:34 PM:

Saw this in theater yesterday... HOLY SHIT. As I stated with SW EPIII, Bout F'n Time. This summer is shapin up to be a good one. Come on "War of the Worlds"...

Anyway, based on sample, I'm gonna have to wait for a decent TC/TS before I DL this.

Video: 4
Audio: 5
Movie: 10 (Based on seeing in Theater)

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Posted by mattmatt02 on 06-20-2005 12:00 AM:

to clarify my previous post, this is the same silver as POT's but is actually considerably worse. POT's was good but this one is more blurred, more pixelated (loads more) and sound is out of sync. i seriously think the group was messing around with us because there is actually not one thing 'proper' about it. everything about it is worse!

Posted by ashert on 06-20-2005 02:51 AM:

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Posted by dsspos on 06-20-2005 12:42 PM:

many thanks.

Batman.Begins.Cam.SVCD.REAL.PROPER-oFFEND

so far this is the best one out there.

good video quality. not sure about the audio though.

again, thank you oFFEND.

Posted by mattmatt02 on 06-20-2005 06:12 PM:

Re: many thanks.

quote:
Originally posted by dsspos
Batman.Begins.Cam.SVCD.REAL.PROPER-oFFEND

so far this is the best one out there.

good video quality. not sure about the audio though.

again, thank you oFFEND.

i think most of the sound is from the cam but the video is quite pixelated. it is the only complete release though. personally, i would wait because most people wouldnt want to watch pixelated video that keeps changing quality from one source to another and has cam audio with various audience sounds etc. hopefully TUN or SAOSiN will be using their trusty TC source and bring us a nice release with crisp, direct audio! Come on guys, make with the TC!

Posted by Dr. Grinch on 06-20-2005 06:32 PM:

[Batman Begins INTERNAL TS SVCD - SAOSiN]

Posted by joeydownload on 06-20-2005 08:29 PM:

shite dont bother wait for a telesync at least , dark film not good with a cam , respect for the try though

3/2/?

Posted by giannisKM on 06-20-2005 08:47 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ashert
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Batman Begins Internal SVCD TS-Correlation A NEW PERFECT ONE

Posted by Muzak on 06-21-2005 04:38 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by giannisKM
Batman Begins Internal SVCD TS-Correlation A NEW PERFECT ONE

not perfect, as its missing 6 minutes (hence the internal), but damn good copy. will certainly work till TC comes out.

(thank you unlimited download speeds/amount, lol)

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Posted by chrpnk on 06-21-2005 05:33 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Muzak
not perfect, as its missing 6 minutes (hence the internal), but damn good copy. will certainly work till TC comes out.

(thank you unlimited download speeds/amount, lol)

It's missing more than 6 minutes. It's missing about 20.

Posted by CANES1 on 06-21-2005 05:55 AM:

I don't understand. I expected 6 different releases of this by now what with it being a Batman movie. Is it really that bad or are there security guards waiting outside the room where the movie is playing at every theater with metal detectors frisking people? LOL I'm not complaining I'm just surprised. Why is there no LOL emoticon? Thats like Coke making every variety of soda except Coca - Cola.

Posted by hifi2005 on 06-21-2005 08:58 AM:

v-6
a-6
m-9
not bad for a cam ive seen worse

Posted by Peoples-Agent on 06-21-2005 10:39 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by chrpnk
It's missing more than 6 minutes. It's missing about 20.

I have already seen this in the cinema, what parts are missing from it?

They do state just 6 mins missing from the latest Correlation, around 20 for the POT release. So what's missing then?

Have you seen the film, like to get a better idea.

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Posted by garvey100 on 06-21-2005 11:25 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by chrpnk
It's missing more than 6 minutes. It's missing about 20.

As is the saosin ts which looks nice. Interesting nfo from saosin though. Bizarre that most sources have 20 missing min and yet they are all from different sources allegedly.

Posted by lickmyzack on 06-21-2005 11:44 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by CANES1
I don't understand. I expected 6 different releases of this by now what with it being a Batman movie. Is it really that bad or are there security guards waiting outside the room where the movie is playing at every theater with metal detectors frisking people? LOL I'm not complaining I'm just surprised. Why is there no LOL emoticon? Thats like Coke making every variety of soda except Coca - Cola.

there are several releases out.. just not listed on VCDQ

Batman.Begins.Cam.SVCD.REAL.PROPER-oFFEND
(probably the only one closest to being complete out there at the moment... however the run time on this is not what IMDB says it should be.. 130 mins and if you add in the end credits that are missing (8 minutes) you would have a run time of 138 minutes. the IMDB run time = 141 mins.)

Batman.Begins.Internal.SVCD.TS-Correlation
(missing 20 minutes even though nfo says 6)

Batman.Begins.INTERNAL.TS.SVCD-SAOSiN
(missing same 20 minutes and overall run time is 2 minutes shorter than Correlation release)

Batman Begins *PRoPeR* - CAM - CaMeX

Batman Begins - CAM - POT

so you got 5 to choose from...

this release was just not that great

5/6/8

LMZ

Posted by Fordirelifesa on 06-21-2005 12:50 PM:

Batman Begins from oFFEND doesn't look bad at all. Deciding on which release to keep. All seem to have at least 'some' missing scenes.

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Posted by Captnhook on 06-21-2005 01:52 PM:

Batman Begins

lickmyzack's summary of all versions up to this point is spot on.

..this cam release from CaMex
5.5.7

Batman.Begins.Internal.SVCD.TS-Correlation is a decent quality TS but it's missing a large segment as do most other versions
except for Batman.Begins.Cam.SVCD.REAL.PROPER-oFFEND which is a compilation from various sources and just is missing a second from the ending.

Thus far no version merits raves

Posted by OdysseusSMS on 06-21-2005 02:39 PM:

There is a complete version, at least it runs for 2 hours and 14 minutes(so I assume it's complete), nice quality too.

The group used the russian TC for most of the video, but added the missing scenes from the POT release, as well as POT's audio.

BATMAN BEGINS - TC/CAM HYBRID- ENGLISH AUDIO**COMPLETE MOVIE* -ADYWAN-XVID

Posted by fluffinator on 06-21-2005 09:12 PM:

0/0/7

proper from the same source, apparently, with such a hackjob encode I can't give anything but a 0.

From the framerate and stuttering, i'd almost swear this is an encode from a freakin PAL disc.

STAY AWAY FROM THIS GARBAGE!

---side note---
Oh, and I've decided to start my own rls group specializing in propers. It's really easy, download a RELEASE, re-encode it to an incredible low bitrate, add a brighten filter, then call it a proper.... seems to be working for alot of other groups

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Posted by garvey100 on 06-21-2005 11:01 PM:

Batman Begins - The missing 20 Minutes - IND

Why can't someone just come up with a full release. I cannot be bothered to mux this in with some other version and probably coming up with something of crappy quality.

Posted by Mr_Grinch on 06-22-2005 12:05 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Grinch
[Batman Begins INTERNAL TS SVCD - SAOSiN]

I like your username.

Posted by spider11 on 06-22-2005 07:30 AM:

I have downloaded
Batman.Begins.Internal.SVCD.TS-Correlation
which does have
(missing 20 minutes even though nfo says 6)
also the audio on all 3 discs has an irritating continuous beeping (caused by the camrecorder?)
the video is pixelated and washed out colours
(probably brightened due to alot of dark scenes)
personally I recommend we all wait

PS maybe I expect to much after seeing it on the big screen

Posted by deathdawg on 06-22-2005 02:40 PM:

I sure would like to see this one... but not yet.

3/4/?

Posted by max2 on 06-22-2005 09:21 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by CANES1
I don't understand. I expected 6 different releases of this by now what with it being a Batman movie. Is it really that bad or are there security guards waiting outside the room where the movie is playing at every theater with metal detectors frisking people? LOL I'm not complaining I'm just surprised. Why is there no LOL emoticon? Thats like Coke making every variety of soda except Coca - Cola.

You should learn by now the rule of which movies get a good source released and which ones don't. There a good pattern to see.

Posted by kom4nche on 06-22-2005 10:12 PM:

and this one ¿?

Batman.Begins.iNTERNAL.TS.XviD-CRDS

english audio
nfo runtime: 141 min

Seems like a good release. Hope its complete :-)

Posted by mattmatt02 on 06-22-2005 10:23 PM:

i dont understand why this release is getting higher ratings on the quality vote bit than POT's release. it is a re-encode of pot's or from the same silver, has the same bits missing, and is more pixelated and has out of sync audio. but it still gets higher ratings than POT's. strange...

<i rated this earlier>

this shud be 'nuked.invalid.proper' if it isnt already...

the TS from Correlation is excellent quality, but has missing scenes still. does anyone know if the missing scenes from correlation's rls are in POT's???? and if so, what are the times (h,m,s) where it goes in?!?!

It isnt on vcdq yet so ive made a joeg sample in the style of vcdq!! (hope they dont mind):::
http://img270.echo.cx/img270/5773/batmanbegins9af.jpg

Posted by mjl on 06-22-2005 10:31 PM:

Batman.Begins.iNTERNAL.TS.XviD-CRDS

is this the full version or just another copy of the incomplete movie

Posted by kom4nche on 06-23-2005 06:49 PM:

another incomplete release, but looks like a TC

Posted by RaZor Ramon on 06-23-2005 06:51 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by mattmatt02
i dont understand why this release is getting higher ratings on the quality vote bit than POT's release. it is a re-encode of pot's or from the same silver, has the same bits missing, and is more pixelated and has out of sync audio. but it still gets higher ratings than POT's. strange...

<i rated this earlier>

this shud be 'nuked.invalid.proper' if it isnt already...

the TS from Correlation is excellent quality, but has missing scenes still. does anyone know if the missing scenes from correlation's rls are in POT's???? and if so, what are the times (h,m,s) where it goes in?!?!

It isnt on vcdq yet so ive made a joeg sample in the style of vcdq!! (hope they dont mind):::
http://img270.echo.cx/img270/5773/batmanbegins9af.jpg

Yes. The insertion point is at 19:27 of CD2 of the Correlation release. I'm not sure what part it's at on the Pot release since someone put the missing 20 minutes out there and I just grabbed that. It's the 1st scene with Batman kicking some ass I think.

Posted by Rubberbandman on 06-23-2005 09:44 PM:

Batman.Begins.INTERNAL.TS.SVCD-SAOSiN

Anyone got any nfo on this one? It was just released and I'm getting it now.... Saw the sample looks like the best out. Anyone know of any missing scenes in it?

nevermind it states it has the missing scenes as well.

Posted by garvey100 on 06-24-2005 12:03 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by max2
You should learn by now the rule of which movies get a good source released and which ones don't. There a good pattern to see.

Er, and what pattern might that be, given that one of the groups of the moment (saosin) has had to Internal their release due to the 20 minutes missing?
If you are talking about the films themselves, well I seem to remember sw3 having a pretty damned good release on opening night.

Posted by spider11 on 06-24-2005 02:35 PM:

Most likely I am using the wrong forum, but its in line with the conversation currently happening.
I have burnt the Corr version of batman and get a continuous beep (a second or so apart) that fluctuates in intensity (the volume of the beep).
I use nero for burning could it be a corrupt codec??
I also playback on a DVD Player onto my TV.
Nay help would be much appreciated.

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