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big timer on the bottom, big "universal studios" logo on top, however, it does have subtitles for the foreign language parts.....

From sample

v: 8
a: 8
m: ? tickets for tonight so not going to watch

Big timer across the bottom and watermark across the top but otherwise a great copy for a movie only just released.


As far as the techie analysis of dropped frames etc, I will leave that to the experts as i know nuffink :-)

Looks good, shame about the timer on the bottom though.

8/9/10

Hopefully somebody can blur the timer out.

Looks pretty good but as said, timer on the bottom all the way through etc..

Will probably get nuked as its more a Workprint thant screener. well worth getting though!

from sample apart from timer and universal studios looks nice will post back when watched full movie

Been notified its the workprint.

But still...

V - 7 (Property and time lines)
A - 8

M - Not watched.

FANTASTIC

Video: 10

Audio: 10

Movie: 10

Bitrate is low so the video isn't the best quality. Possibly a VHS screener mislabeled. For a movie that is almost 2 hours, it should definitely have been 2 CDs. Large timecode on the bottom, and a Universal Studios watermark on the top are constant . Audio is good. Movie is good.

CATBOX

http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07333/Image1.jpg

watermarks weren't as bad as I thought.

i'd say 8/10/?

Timers annoying but easily cropped, the property of is hardly noticable once yo get into the film

7.5
8
8

Personally I think this is an absolute fantastic copy. Best out there by 10 miles....Yes there is a Universal Studios watermark at the top and a timer at the bottom, but isn't bad at all. Also, I don't mind a watermark or timer in a film as long as it looks good. This is definately a keeper

audio - 9

Video - 9

Movie - 10 (but that's my personal opinion...the series was fantastic)

best version to date....

V: 8.5 - timer's a little big, but nothing to complain about
universal logo isn't that noticable....definitely worth
watching


A: 9.5 - really good audio on this one


M: ??? - can't wait to watch this one as i just picked up the bourne
files that was just released in stores....looking forward to
this

truth is it has a large timer across the bottom. and a water mark across the top through out the video.

don't confuse finding and getting a movie you've been hoping for with the quality of it.

this is one of the lesser screeners i have seen, it's like trying to watch a movie through a transparent newspaper. and quality is more like a vhs rip than a DVD rip

can't blame the release group ,blame the dumb ass that put all the crap on the screen. i would call this a workprint not a screener.


PROBLEM Here is mislabeling the whole release this is a VHS Workprint. not a DVD-Screener. no need to mislabel it. come on now get real.


V-7 could have been a 8 if cleaned up.
A-8
M-8

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Grainy as shit considering it is supposed to be a dvdscr, i've seen crisper vhs screeners TBH.

That being said, it is by far the best we have and a copy I will sit down and watch properly soon. A decent R5 will piss all over this.

V: 6 (dvdscr should be at least close to dvd quality)
A: 8 ( Ok on PC speakers, not yet tested on surround sound)
M: ?? will watch later

Well, best copy out ATM, but the huge timer and Universal watermark ruin it. This is a WorkPrint.

As A workprint

V: 8
A: 7
M: ?

as above

v8
s8

id rather see timers than shitty cam video.

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rated as dvdscr

V 6.5 (could/should be better)
A 8 (sounds great)
M 9 absolute a must see

I don't mind the timer crap and if anyone has an issue you need to check yourself. This is better then any copy of a TS you can get. Nice video and sound, especially when you think the movie is only a few weeks old. Nice release guys, thanks.

V-8.5
A-9
M-7

Re: FANTASTIC

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Originally posted by LegallyBlonde
Video: 10

Audio: 10

Movie: 10

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Best out by far forgot about timer n watermark wen i got into film didnt bother me atall
V-8
A-8
M-9

The quality on this is not bad at all. It IS by far the best that is out. If you haven't seen the movie and don't plan on seeing it in theaters get this copy.

*not baseing this on a dvd screener...just quality overall*
Video: 8.5 maybe 9.
Audio 8.5

Its totally watchable and you forget about the timer once you get into the movie.

skipped through. timer and watermark is not too bad. as said before best pic and sound out there atm.

damn especially the sound is top notch.

v: 8.5 (a few blockiness, but who cares)
a: 10
m: we'll see

V-8.5 to bad bout the timer but this is very nice quality
A-9 Very Good
M-10
thx iMBT

Just finished watching this
who care's if its mislabeled lmao
Its super intense actions scenes leave u lil time to stare at the timer lol.....talk about kick ass action flick woohoo....best flick i've seen in a long time.

the above was lastnight : tonight i also watched supremacy and identity kinda like 321 sequence lol what a blast awsome 3 set of a series.......bourne 4 would be nice ..... can't remember a better 3 set ever like this....Matt Damon rocks

v8
a9
m9

This was created by the studio to be seen. So consider yourselves lucky. Because it wasn't intended to be seen by YOU!

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Well, I haven't snagged the full release, just the sample.

Like most have said, this seems to be a VHS Screener mislabeled as a DVDSCR, but I won't hold it against iMBT, as it is the best copy out, and it's out fast.

Could anyone give an exact length, as I saw this in theaters last night and it ran 130min.

FROM SAMPLE (As VHS-SCR):
Video: 8 (needs to be higher bitrate)
Audio: 9 (damned near perfect)
Movie: 10 (probably the best of the series, which has been exceptional from the get)

The video suffers from slight compression issues, obviously, since it's squeezed onto one disc, but it looked pretty good on 42in LCD through a standalone media center. Despite what others say, I don't believe this is a VHS screener.

Also as stated, there is a timer and watermark, but it doesn't distract from the movie. Even the subtitles are placed above the timer. Workprints are typically not theatrical releases and sometimes exclude scenes and/or audio. I can't recall any differences between this and the theater release.

Audio is 2 channel stereo, but atleast it sounds good. 10 times better than all these R5 releases of late.

8/8/9

at least there'll be a good audio source for the r5

6/9/?

quote:

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Originally posted by subdublbc
Well, I haven't snagged the full release, just the sample.

Like most have said, this seems to be a VHS Screener mislabeled as a DVDSCR, but I won't hold it against iMBT, as it is the best copy out, and it's out fast.

Could anyone give an exact length, as I saw this in theaters last night and it ran 130min.

FROM SAMPLE (As VHS-SCR):
Video: 8 (needs to be higher bitrate)
Audio: 9 (damned near perfect)
Movie: 10 (probably the best of the series, which has been exceptional from the get)

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there is nothing wrong with this rls at all

V9
A9 much better than most dvdscrs


the timer is the same u get on old vhs screeners i don't think this is a work print.

awesome rls now i saved my self $13 at the movies.

V: 7
A: 7
M: N/A

quote:

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Originally posted by VCDQuality FAQ
DVD-SCREENER (DVDscr)

Same premise as a screener, but transferred off a DVD. Usually letterbox , but without the extras that a DVD retail would contain. The ticker is not usually in the black bars, and will disrupt the viewing. If the ripper has any skill, a DVDscr should be very good. Usually transferred to SVCD or DivX/XviD.

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not bad

used avidemux to blurr the logo and time stamp.

looks good

<Scene talk snipped>

Workprint nuke is a joke also. AS others have said this is no different to many of the old VHS screeners we used to get that were tagged "SCREENER" and NEVER once got nuked for being WP.
Most people who HAVE seen WPs know there is a considerable difference in the onscreen format of the markings. A simple timer running does NOT constitute a WP. This studio has sent out many, many screeners with constant timers and TCG marked over the years.

TBH i don't care what it is or isn't all i wish is that EVERY release was treated the same and same rules applied regarding nukes and not dependant on who releases it. inter-site politics=gay

V: 7
A: 8
M: 6

wonder how many have watched the release
vid 7 --u all know y
audio 9

movie --GODDAMN !!!! gonna watch again
Next -how long we gotta wait for another good flick GRRRRRR
Thanx IMBT

Take your arguments to a PM. Review quality of release only here.

As stated, source doesn't look to be a DVDSCR (nuked)...Quality reduces a good some when I expand my player to full screen on my computer (20" widescreen lcd)...Not enough to ruin my viewing experience or warrant me to wait for a different copy to see this movie ... Haven't viewed on a TV yet.... Wish 'Grindhouse' had a copy like this come along.

Definitely the best video/audio out for this movie, even with the mentioned watermark and counter... Amazing quality for a movie out for only a couple weeks.

Fast Release of a DVDscr

V - 9 (would been better without timer)
A - 10
M - 10

As a VHS WP
V8
A8
M8

if indeed it is a VHS WP then its probably the best ive seen in a LONG time.


ran it threw WinAvi cropped 10 off the top and 9 and piff paff poof Clean copy

(or was it 9 off the top and 10 off the bottom? oh well it looks good now)

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I don 't really care if it's a workprint or not. It's very good quality and a good movie

V-8
A-9
M-10

VHS screener? are you people insane?!

clearly sourced from a dvd, although the file size has very noticeably limited the video bitrate on this release:

V: 7
A: 9
M: ?

good quality nonetheless and very watchable, but might hold off as there is a free preview screening of this movie where im from next week

it's about time(get it)..very good copy

v:8.5(will be 9 after i crop it,take out the timeline and logo)
a:10
m:10

keep it peeps...

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Thank you p2p!!! Hahaha...

Anyways as a Workprint I vote
v: 7
a: 7.5 (maybe 8)
m: ? Dunno yet. Going to watch this release tonight.

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looks good enough after I cleaned it up.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k101/jaxboss/PDVD_001.jpg


PS: I give up on making the image. prolly too big i guess. hit link

As a Workprint

V:8
A:8

Film: 10, the best of the series.

I'm sure the grainyness is only due to the initial encode. Disipointing if it was actually a DVD source instead of a WP or Screener.

I'm not great at encoding, but I wonder if there is a proper released, that it would, using the same source, have much better resolution...

Suprisingly the movie is good enough that you can actually get past the fact that the timestamp and water marks are there.

Great flick

::ModEdit: Make your requests in the appropriate forum::

Despite time code on bottom and Universal logo on top, this is a copy of the film to watch. Easily ignorable are the two gestures that appear,you'll be paying attention to DVD quality movie on your computer that's still in cinemas, enjoy, I know I have...

Excellent timing for this release,same as the opening date in the UK.
Only slight flaws are the timer and the watermark.
Timer isnt that difficult to resolve as it can be cropped .
I saw the film last night in the cinema and the bottom of the screen was similar to where you can crop this release.
Audio is excellent .
I thought the film was the weakest of the three but still enjoyable.

Definitely seems like a workprint. The video seems a bit noisy. Doesn't seem at all DVDScr quality. But that said this is the best quality version yet. And BTW the movie is fantastic.

This is not a workprint. Maybe according to what the scene thinks a workprint is, then you might call it a workprint. Do some research and you'll discover what a workprint really is.

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wah wah who cares rate the rls as it is listed

v 9 ( would of given 7 with giant timer, logo at top isnt too noticable, but with simple snip looks great)
a 8
m 6 only liked the first one

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The Bourne Ultimatum *XviD* - DVD SCR - iMBT

Great Copy thanks imbt who care if its a dvd screener or a workprint i loved it thanks again

video 9/10
sound 9/10
movie 9/10

keeping them coming thanks

The source is not VHS, it is a DVD. As mentioned before, it's bitrate has dropped due to length of movie showing up some pixelation.

V = 8 (Due to Watermark and large timer)
A = 9.5 (The audio on this is amazing)
M = 9 (Great movie, full on action from start to finish)

whhooooT!

Great release, great timing!
Video 8/10
Audio 9/10
Movie 9/10

Keep um coming!

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watched this on the tv tonight (57")

quality is superb. timer isn't that annoying or the water mark.

looks like a dvd source to me (not vhs as mentioned previously in this thread)

audio is excellent.

v: 9
a: 9
m: 8.5 (the jumpy camera work gets a little annoying)

rated as a a screener

v.8 compressed to 1 disk plus timer loses it the 2 points. Once you get into the movie u sort of forget the timer so it doesn't annoy that much.

a.9 excellent audio worked on my 5.1

m.8 great action, though different to the book, still a good story lots of action. The camera angles and way they changed was a bit annoying at times, but a excellent conclusion to the Bourne trilogy.

Till the DVD is available this is worth getting, and its only a 700MB xvid!! Converted to DVD worth the effort, to watch on your TV.

Recommended.

8/8/8

Great flick, PLENTY of action.

Should have been two discs... but only suffered during dark scenes.

Audio sounded too bass-y, but then again it is likely my shit TV.

Movie ends the series rather well.

V:7
S:8
M:?

Haven't watched the full thing yet but it must be a workprint because there seems to be placename titles missing.

Late as always

Yes yes, late as ever.

Before rating this I have to of course mention the source, and the nuke. "p2p source"... sure, why not. Could be, though I've yet to find the source it comes from myself. The fact that no DVDRs (at least that aren't converts of the XviD version) have appeared anywhere would seem to track with that. As for it being a workprint...

Okay, depends on what you mean by a workprint. As far as I can tell nothing major is missing, no duplicate scenes (a la the Episode 3 workprint a few years ago) and no special effects or anything else seem to be left out either. Then again, I've not seen this in theaters, so there might be some scenes or effects missing. If that's the case, then sure, it's what I'd call a workprint, but otherwise it's just an internal viewing copy; counters do not a workprint make.

Finally, I don't buy the source being a VHS tape, or any tape for that matter. Video quality, particularly the chroma layer, is far too detailed to be any consumer analog format, and outdoes most "pro-sumer" (non-digital) tape formats as well. Without seeing the actual source I can't be sure, but it's far more likely this is from a digital source than a tape, probably a DVD. (A crappy DVD maybe, but still)

Therefore, rating as a DVDSCR:


Video - 6: This is much, much better than anything else out there, but it suffers from numerous issues. Firstly, it's grossly undersized, meaning there are tons of compression errors and lots of block noise due to the low video bitrate. The compression errors are almost nostalgic in way: I've not seen this many inverted pixels and motion trails since the last time I watched my DivX 3.11 copies of Ranma½. The counter at the bottom is fairly annoying as counters go, though fortunately it doesn't obscure any vital bits of action. (Personally I blurred them out with an adaptive blur overlay on each individual number anyway) While the counter takes off some points on my rating, the bulk of the reason is because of iMBT's shit job of encoding this video.

Audio - 9: Audio, by contrast, is done far better. Good bitrate, in sync, sounds great. Decent encoding job. Not much more to say.

Movie - 8: I liked it. I expected a bigger, better dénouement (that's "ending" for you philisitines) than what we got though. The action scenes leading up to the final scene gave you this great sense of buildup, and then the final scene kind of just... well... ended. Still, damn good film throughout; I really hope there will be a sequel.


Bottom Line: Best version out there at the moment, but it's riddled with quality issues due to inept encoding. If you're one of those people who twitches when there's a moving counter on the screen you might want to avoid this copy and wait for the R5 to come out. Otherwise, it's a decent watch.

Workprint or not, best out there...

V 8 (9 without timer & embed)
A 8.5
M 9

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First off, great copy. People seem to want to find things to moan about and, considering this film has only been in the cinema barely a week, its the best quality of almost any release recently. For me, as long as the sound is clear and the video is crisp enough for complex action sequences not to become a mess, that's all that matters. I didn't even notice the timer or the watermark-they are designed to not really be noticed after all. The timer does not cover any of the action nor, more importantly, does it cover any subtitles which are clear and correct indicating they were not compiled by foreign pirates but by the studio.

This is NOT a WP. Workprints are post offline edit copies that do not include many effects, credits, e.t.c. They are intended as near complete references for the online editor to finish off. This is a FINISHED edit used as a final for the approval of the studio in question. The low quality is not because it is VHS. It is in case the studio wishes to make ane last minute alterations they don't have to go and chop up a high quality file that takes time and money. The BITC is also there for this reason, so the studio execs can note exactly where any changes may need to be made. These will exist even in the finished article as a precaution and do not automatically signify a WP. In this day and age, a studio the size of Universal will not be issueing screeners such as this on VHS. The edits will have been digitized and it is way more complicated & tim comsuming to then burn them to VHS. This is a DVD screener, no doubt. It is simply not a public screener.

Anyway

V:8

A:9

M:8

Stop whinging.

10/10 for audio

watched this on 100" projector screen....VID quality was good apart from timer at bottom but audio was superb through AV amp ,,,,woke the neighbours up....D/L its a must

I've already reviewed the sample. Now I am questioning something that I saw in the beginning of the film.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6775/bourneultimatumcircleta4.jpg

It's this incomplete circle. Would you find this in a DVDSCR?

Mad Screen Junk

What an odd release - So soon after the theatre release anyway.

Didn't fancy doing nout with this at first look as with all the rubbish on screen, but eventually I succumbed to curiosity and mullered the bugger to death and beyond, and Hey!, it came out really good. Chopped, top, bottom & both sides to hell (plus a bit of shuffling to keep the location subs wandered off into the 'safe area') and some fringing arties coming off the 'universal' as a result - but what a result.

As it goes I kinda hate all that skakey camera work and over zealous MTV editing, but here it does enhance the movie and keeps the action going right through to the end, and hence with this kind of cam FX, heavy cropping is not that noticable as long as the charactors eyes are still there as the cam FX is really close-up and shaking most of the time anyway, doesn't suffer at all from any pixalation as could be expected with this low bit rate as such a lot of cam shaking & motion going on, but very slight blockyness & slight blur due mainly to 1cd compression,

Audio is very good but suffers in the dialogue channel but can be pulled back (bloody time consuming though).

If you can't get to this stage then get out the black masking tape and watch, you'll enjoy it without all the nuissances on screen. Or even go to the movies, if this is your type of movie 'cus you won't feel cheated after shelling out a few bob.

V = 8 (9 if you can remove the junk)

a = 8 (9 if dialogue channel was better)

M - 9 yep, I enjoyed this one and was well entertained, far better than 'Supremacy', nearly as good as 'Identity', but then it is Matt Damon doing a good job for the third time.

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8/8/8

Shame about the timer, but you do 'zone out' from it after a while.

V: 7.5
A: 9
M: 9 (though you might not be a fan of the series or this type of movie).

There are many clones of this version that attempt to improve the quality, but fail. The only thing flaw in the iMBT copy is the volume is low. If you crop it to remove the timer and watermark, you take away way too much of the picture. My previous post stands.

I grabbed The Bourne Ultimatum.PROPER.DVDSCR.XViD-LYD and somebody with too much time on their hands makes the video all garbled and the sound slowed down. Also periodically puts a large "piracy is illegal" scrolling video which blocks the entire screen. Avoid it, its unwatchable.


CATBOX

why not just go with The.Bourne.Ultimatum.WP.XviD-Dragon25

its the imbt release with many improvements

How ever, imbt release is low in volume and colour and is dull in sharpness. yet even though it has the timer and logo it was nice to watch.

imbt:

m-9
a-6 becuase of low volume
v-6 becuase of colour a grainy type of feel

nukes, nukes, nukes

That's It - I'm sick of all the whinging about Nukes for nukes sake when the movie-groups can't be arsed to do a descent job with what theyv'e got - So here it is - One time only

The.Bourne.Ultimatum.2007.Pal-Xvid-Tim (NO LISTING SOURCES!!!)

(grab the proper codec pack too, best for Mplayer2)

This is what can be acheived from the iMBT-Xvid file, though iMBT should have done this in the first place then take full credit.

V = 9 (after mullering it to death with TmpegEnc)

A = 9 (after careful tweaking with wavelab & Goldwave)

M = 9 (great movie, full of action, well entertaining)

PS - sorry Ed, I know the rules, but I'm just loosing it with this whinging lot.

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Originally posted by dragon26
why not just go with The.Bourne.Ultimatum.WP.XviD-Dragon25

its the imbt release with many improvements

How ever, imbt release is low in volume and colour and is dull in sharpness. yet even though it has the timer and logo it was nice to watch.

imbt:

m-9
a-6 becuase of low volume
v-6 becuase of colour a grainy type of feel

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reguardless if this is a screener or not, it is still a great release (and an early one too!)

since they didn't blur the watermarks, you can play around with this release all you want in virtualdub by either blurring it yourself or cropping it.

video: 7 (with watermarks)
audio: 9 (flawless)
movie: ? (going to marathon all the bournes tomorrow night)


comparison: http://i9.tinypic.com/525c2e0.png


oh, and for the blurring, you'll need the logoaway filter for virtualdub (http://voidon.republika.pl/virtualdub/)

the best software for the blurring is puremotions editstudio.

would be cool to add the dragon25 to the shots to see the difference compared to the rest

i could not watch it the timer pissed me right off..

Oh YEA!!!

V-7
A-7
M-9.5

Finally...i am able to watch this long anticipated movie. btw, its really good now for quality of the release. the video is pretty nice. its clean and clear, pretty sharp too, the reason i give a 7 is obviously the counter, but its actually not that distracting. The audio is also pretty good. its full, got a good sound on my home theater system. nice to have bass on this one. the movie itself is awesome. i am a huge bourne fan anyway, and this was just icing on the cake of an incredible trilogy. good work iMBT on this really nice quality release (even tho it was mislabled) Keep em coming!

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YES!


V = 9 ( computer screen)
A = 9 (used headphones)
M = 9 (WOW the action is almost overwhelming)


YUMMMEH. I wasnt suprised by the timer or the watermark but dang it beats some of these "crop jobs" This movie made my day at work so much better! thanks again.

Definition:
DVD-SCREENER (DVDscr)Same premise as a screener, but transferred off a DVD. Usually letterbox , but without the extras that a DVD retail would contain. The ticker is not usually in the black bars, and will disrupt the viewing.


/me dancing =

A: 6.5 ( up & down a lot - one scene is too quiet the next is too loud )
V: 6.5 ( oversized timecode, faded universal logo )
M: 6.5 ( I thought it was pretty lame compared to the others, but I was never a big fan of those either )