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Posted by Anno on 06-17-2005 05:12 PM:

Slight hiss (only really noticable on headphones or at high levels) , not overly cropped, no tilt on cam, decent picture quality but it has to be said it is too dark. Shame really as everything else is great. Thats not to say it's unwatchable it most certainly is but it is dark all the same. It's the best release to date and this is the 1 i will watch in full.
Nice1 CTP

7/8/?

(not watched in full yet just had a scan thru CD1 so am unawre if there are any issues as yet.)


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Posted by crookite on 06-17-2005 05:53 PM:

nice and clear nice sound, a little on the dark side but not enough to spoil, a nice ctp release

8/8/? watch tonight


Posted by Zombie Jesus on 06-17-2005 05:58 PM:

I've been waiting for this. Not that bad of a release but it is pretty damn dark, otherwise it's pretty good.

7/8/?

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Posted by kickout2005 on 06-17-2005 06:02 PM:

Very nice release... props to Centropy for coming through and bringing us a watchable version. From sample video is good, audio is also very good thanks again and keep it up this summer!!

v8/a7/m10


Posted by manchester on 06-17-2005 06:09 PM:

cinderella man

very nice rls ctp
from sample in the fight scene colours look nice
audio sounds good

video 8
audio 7.5

good work ctp keep em coming


Posted by illogical on 06-17-2005 06:11 PM:

1st class
Considering type--TS
Video--9
Audio--9
When it's dark it's dark, when it's bright it's bright, just how it should be.
May appear too dark on a TFT with too much contrast.


Posted by me-self on 06-17-2005 07:02 PM:

Nice release, looking at the sample i can see that some bits look to dark but the video is at good quality.

V:8 - Good quality apart from darkness

S:8 - Good direct sound

F: Not got full release yet.

PS: looking at the start of the film, it is rather dark, worst then i thought it would be, i think TMPGEnc could brighten it up.


Posted by rikoni on 06-17-2005 07:09 PM:

Sample:-)

Good release, Thanks Centropy.

V - 8

S - 9

M - 10

If you want to see sample click here and next click in Kadr z filmu.

Thx


Posted by Jericho on 06-17-2005 08:34 PM:

tried to watch this on tv and its way too dark...turning the brightness up doesn't help much

thx for the release centropy but way too dark to see anything ,especially the dark scenes

v=5
a=8


Posted by slippers on 06-17-2005 08:35 PM:

got to say its very dark i think they tried there best to clean up what they had but a bit of a let down from ctp but i am gratefull for the release


based on a TS

5\7\? watching now


Posted by geoffbob30 on 06-17-2005 10:08 PM:

video looks good although this is dark as already stated (reminds me of house of wax) haven`t watched the film so don`t know if it is really an issue

v/7
a/8
m/ will watch tomorrow


Posted by xRONiNx on 06-17-2005 10:52 PM:

V: 7.5
A: 8
M: N/A

Looking forward to watching this later tonight hopefully, video is a tad dark, but tolerable definitely. Nice crisp audio. Been lookin forward to this flick for a while now, hope it's as good as I want it to be...

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Posted by Dodgy Del on 06-17-2005 11:01 PM:

Thumbs up

decent telesync here. if you cant wait till better version pops up...........grab this one. nice one Centropy


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Posted by ExBest182 on 06-18-2005 12:48 AM:

just watched whole release.. video is dark as stated..but the outdoor scenes look good... audio is decent enough though, the occasional guy going for popcorn and walking across the screen every now and then but not too often.. its the best out there, not the CTP we used to know and love, but a decent effort..

7/8/8.5


Posted by MrManc on 06-18-2005 12:52 AM:

Very dark, unwatchable to me, watched 1st 10 mins on the big telly, couldn't tell wtf was going on for 5 mins, gf bitched, watched something else.

v/5
a/7.5 bit of a hiss
m/?


Posted by sarasara on 06-18-2005 01:21 AM:

i watched part of cd1 and there isnt an issue of being dark - maybe the people that think it is dark is trying to watch it on their old monitors or sumtin i dunno


Posted by katalist on 06-18-2005 01:52 AM:

Video = 7 - A little dark but definatly looks alright with the brightness up on the tv a bit (:
Audio = 8 - no problems
Movie = 7 - Ive watched the first disc so far.


Posted by Tork on 06-18-2005 02:46 AM:

6/7/?

Its too dark for my taste.


Posted by PttU on 06-18-2005 02:57 AM:

Some wierd kind of horizontal lines in the sample, especially in the dark areas. Apart from that a nice TS: 7/8/?


Posted by StanTek on 06-18-2005 04:05 AM:

...

Video -> 5
Audio -> 8
Movie -> 8

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Posted by Roger on 06-18-2005 05:43 AM:

what about you fucking morons see how dark it is at the theater MAYBE before bitching, ass holes.


Posted by Fordirelifesa on 06-18-2005 05:56 AM:

Better than Riderz release, but not spectacular. As mentioned, this looks too dark, and colors are somewhat faded/dull. Sound is definitely an approvement over Riderz which I couldn't even make out. Appreciate the release, the best out so far.

7/8/?

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Posted by virtualpal on 06-18-2005 06:10 AM:

Props for trying Centropy but this is way too dark to watch even, it may be a dark movie but so was SIN CITY and that turned out great, sorry.

v5
a7
m8


Posted by Horton on 06-18-2005 06:47 AM:

after reading these posts, and seeing the sample, i didnt quite understand what they meant by dark.

ive flicked through all cd's now - it is quite, quite dark. see sample pic i made up from all 3 cd's (2 shots from each, in no particular order..)

Click Me

As you acn see in alot of the pics its very, very hard to see who the people are - i guess its not unwatchable, i mean, its free, but i think this is the way it was filmed that was the problem - not CTP's fault. same thing with house of wax, but that was a very dark movie, too. Audios fine as usual, no buzz i heard

7.5 - Only because i cant see it...
9.0 - perfect, i mean it aint dts but its better then nothing.
X.X - dunno yet didnt watch it all


Posted by hdtv00 on 06-18-2005 09:04 AM:

Very dark, unwatchable to me. Total crap because Im not blind I like to actually be able to see the movie. Anyone not admitting this is WAY to dark is nothing but an centropy ass kisser. I mean thanks for the past but this doesnt excuse crap like this.

3/7/7


Posted by notgnihsaw420 on 06-18-2005 11:16 AM:

Just got done watching it...


CTP Thank you for keeping your sh!t going... Good job on this one, I for some reason knew you wouldnt let this one just breeze on by...


Video 8 (for a TS) - is dark and a little pixelated... Im guessing the movie is a little colorless cause this is... Very watchable though...


Sound 6 - has a slight hum as mentioned... Not noticable on my tv very easily...


Movie 7 : I enjoyed it...

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Posted by duxstar on 06-18-2005 11:58 AM:

I have to say that its a good release, in the beggining it is a little dark but after the first 10 minutes, and a couple of parts later on its pretty fine

7/9/7

Good Job CTP

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Posted by rahjmh2 on 06-18-2005 04:20 PM:

4/7/7


dark but good sound the movie has a good storyline


Posted by mstp on 06-18-2005 04:54 PM:

v 2.0
a 8.0
m ??

if anyone reads this far into comments

in my humble opinion
this is too dark... to the point its useless
after looking at comments here,above
i figured this was worth a dl
i was wrong, i burned the 1st CD and watched, you can't even see their faces in half the scenes

i appreciate the effort put into this site,,
but the quality ratings are unreliable
some posts say this is a great release,
very few say its too dark
take my word for it, it's unwatchable


Posted by hdtv00 on 06-18-2005 07:05 PM:

Centropy ass kiss list...who should also have voting rights taken away....

Fedor Sumkin 10 10 9
vaiopc2345 9 8 8
AcclaimedCritic 10 8 9
deano21 9 10 8
OCGN 9 8 9

Yeah this is a 9/10 quality release...NOT. You all should be killed. After watching the entire movie now. Only good thing is you can see all the boxing parts fairly well. But anything having to do with the heart of the movie, better have night vision googles.


Posted by socks on 06-18-2005 07:33 PM:

dark but crisp video and good audio

7/8/?


Posted by EVILKILLER on 06-18-2005 09:50 PM:

Same here to dark for me and I tied watching it on a tv.


Posted by T2U on 06-18-2005 09:53 PM:

The dark scenes are just that dark ..the fighting and outdoor scenes are good however..the sound is decent..the movie outstanding.....7/8/9


Posted by sheki on 06-19-2005 02:01 AM:

It's way too dark for my tastes. And trying to raise gamma or brightness doesn't help, it only reveals white horizontal lines. Sure, the outdoor scenes are ok, if you can sit through the dark scenes in between. :P

Waste of a d/l.

P.S Roger is a jackass.


Posted by EVILKILLER on 06-19-2005 03:47 AM:

ironic

quote:
Originally posted by Roger
what about you fucking morons see how dark it is at the theater MAYBE before bitching, ass holes.


Does anyone find it ironic when someone bitchs about other peoples so called bitching and then calls them names trying to prove there point.


Posted by mpaafbi on 06-19-2005 03:58 AM:

good dark yes but if you have a projection tv it is darker on my 42 inch plasma looks good i give this a thumbs up

v-9
a-8
overall kick ass


Posted by jibi on 06-19-2005 06:13 AM:

For those stating that the movie is TOO dark, try watching more than a few minutes of the movie? At first, and just about any scene involving indoors at the protagonist's home (where its very dark and lit by candles), yes, it is dark. Aside from those scenes (and maybe a few others) - about 10 total minutes of 140 - it is quite easily watchable and fine. You do not lose anything in the dark scenes, as they are indoors and usually just a conversation between Zellwegger and Crowe.

V - 8
A - 8
M - 9

Great story, great movie, great acting. Crowe put on another great performance. Giamatti had a great showing as well. I really got into this movie in some scenes - caught myself cheering ole Jim on. heh. Definitely one to add to the DVD collection.

As said, this movie is dark in some low-lit (candle-lit) scenes (again, 10 mins max and not that important of scenes), but if you can get past those few scenes, its a great movie. I noticed some skipping on CD2, but that have been my laptop overheating. There was also a man with glasses who showed up at the bottom left from time to time, but he blended in with shadows from the movie quite nicely.


Posted by PlasmaWhore on 06-19-2005 07:50 AM:

Based on the reviews here I thought the darkness would be annoying but not too much of a problem. I watched the first 20 minutes tonight, and it was so dark it was impossible to keep watching. I tried turning up the brightness on my DVD player and TV, and it didn't help at all. If it were brighter I would give the video a 9, but as it is:

3(crisp but so dark it is unwatchable)/8/??I wish I could watch it, it isn't in the theater here.


Posted by RUMBA on 06-19-2005 07:57 AM:

Centropy, Saosin and Tun ROCK BIG TIME. All I can say is THANK YOU.

Nobody else is in, or even close, or int the same ball league You guys or gals or in. The only Telesyncs or Telecines worth watching are the ones released by you 3.

Every other group is a waste of bandwith. Everybody rating these 3 group's releases should be gratefule and appreciative, instead of ignorant.

Let's give Props and Thanks when it is well deserved. Without these 3 groups every other download is a BIG waste of time.

Let's grow up and rate accordingly.

Thank you VCD Quality, Centropy, Tun and Saosin!!!!


Posted by s0n0fagun on 06-19-2005 09:16 AM:

3/7/7

I agree, its too damn dark. I watch the movie in theatres when it came out, I must say, I thought the whole movie was pretty bright except for about 15 minutes worth, mainly the beginning and when they are in their house using candles at night.


Posted by Firebrand on 06-19-2005 10:51 AM:

Thumbs down

From CD1

4/6/?

I've told you all before that some movies look dark in other TVs compared to mine. This movie was pretty damn dark on my own TV! I could just imagine how it would look if I took it to someone elses house!

This is just not worth it!

I thought this was a centropy release; what happened??

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Posted by Neversoft on 06-19-2005 11:30 AM:

Can people please stop responding to previous posts with flames. People are entitled to their own opinion no matter how wrong you think it might be. Just post YOUR review of THIS release and move on... Or wave goodbye to your ability to post on the forum!


Posted by serial thrill on 06-19-2005 12:01 PM:

ok .. im sure im the millionth person to say this .. but it is defenantly way too dark... its rediculous.. centropy really screwed up this one!!

4/7/8


Posted by crazykk on 06-19-2005 03:37 PM:

TOOOOO Dark

WAY to Dark for my taste......Watched for 5 minutes and had to turn it off .

crazy


Posted by Gm4n on 06-19-2005 05:40 PM:

video sucks (far too dark, alittle too cropped), audio is good (clear)...i'll wait for a better release, thx anyway CTP.

4/8/?


Posted by zwanonline on 06-19-2005 06:16 PM:

i agree, its too dark to enjoy.

v-5
a-8
m-8


Posted by john wong on 06-19-2005 06:20 PM:

Why is everyoneone getting so upset with the frank reviews. I don't think anyone has an axe to grind. The movie is damm dark . If you dont want to be cursing all the time close your eyes and listen to the dialogue. The fight scenes are watchable under the floodlights.


Posted by eighty5 on 06-19-2005 09:32 PM:

Extremely dark, almost not-watchable.

I'll pass on this and wait for a brighter copy.


Posted by Raed1235 on 06-20-2005 06:43 AM:

Thanks for post of this movies but I have to say that I had to stop watching dueto darkness..TOO DARK to wathc.

The Audio was excellent. Keep it coming. I hope the next release will be much better.


Posted by sirmonkey on 06-20-2005 08:50 AM:

If its dark on the TV change your color settings from warm to medium.. or default depending on the TV.. watched the sample only because i dont have high speed internet yet..





7/8/??? will download after we get the internet back in my new house... but the sample atleast looked fine on my TV through my computer..


Posted by HeADboNE on 06-20-2005 03:30 PM:

centropy cinderella man

Not sure whats got into centropy lately there I robot ,after the sun, constantine and other great releases seem to be slipping away. House of wax and this one are way to dark with alot of noise in the dark areas which means turning the brightness up doesnt help still best release so far though.
5/7/8


Posted by Beaver35 on 06-20-2005 05:30 PM:

Way to Dark

Sound is perfect...I have a 46 inch LCD TV and couldn't see anything in alot of scenes...Sorry but this don't get my vote ..


Posted by Fionn McCool on 06-21-2005 12:03 PM:

3/9/?

Unwatchable, turned it off after about 15 mins. Audio was very clear though so this one will do nicely for blind members of the forum.


Posted by BHX on 06-21-2005 12:03 PM:

Dark but then again what do you expect from a TS where some of the scenes are shot in the dark anyway. Besides the main scenes weren't that bad with the flood lights in the ring, and there weren't that many parts which were unwatchable with darkness.

V:5
A: 7
M: 8

Really loved this movie, didn't think it would be that great but in the end I thought it was fantastic.

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Posted by GloCK|40 on 06-21-2005 04:00 PM:

Smile

5/7/?

This is DEFINATELY the best release so far. However, it is somewhat too dark. That makes this movie a little difficult to watch. The Audio seemed to be dead on and very nice. The video didnt glitch or anything. It played very nice. With it beening a little too dark, its kinda difficult to watch, but definately not impossible. This is the release I am going to watch in full. Thanks alot Centropy!! Keep Em Coming. And good job. I think imma reencode it and turn the brightness up

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Posted by NYLar on 06-21-2005 04:24 PM:

5/7/?

Way too dark, audio decent. Really, really dark. Darkest video I've ever seen. I dl before too many votes were in, assuming CTP would be decent. My mistake. BTW it's too dark in a lot more than 10 minutes of the movie.


Posted by mikethomey on 06-21-2005 04:45 PM:

whats funny is half these kids that get mad about these releases are charging money for these copies. cough * loser * cough

movie was fine from a pirated point of view

movie was a little dark at the beginning to the point you could only make out who was talking by the definition of their voices..but once the daylight hits you get to see all...so thats not too bad guys...stop your mental retardation

and no you dont miss the movie cuz of its darkness, only kids and frustrated daddies miss the whole point to the movie cuz they turn the thing off before its over...

who cares how crowe's face is twisted into his words as he talks to dumb zellewager.....do you really all think that this part of the movie "makes" the movie.....no...it doesnt

6/7/9(great fkn movie)

now all you losers wait for a dvd-rip


Posted by deathdawg on 06-21-2005 06:41 PM:

5/7/8.5

Yes the movie is dark, especially the first 20 minutes. After CD1 it did seem to improve some, I got a little agrevated at first but it turned out ok for a TS. I've seen MUCH worse!

Video - first 20 minutes = Watchable (5)
Audio - Not bad at all and in sync (7)
Movie - I really enjoyed it, but then I am a boxing fan (8.5)

just my 2 cents, take it or leave it for the next fool!

Thanks Centropy!


Posted by mpaafbi on 06-21-2005 10:58 PM:

good movie

Yo he is the moderator and if you dont know that you shopuld be banned !!!!!!!!!!! As for the movie good

V-7
A-8
overall i liked it


Posted by ilikb4istik on 06-22-2005 12:08 AM:

too dark of course,horizonal lines through the movie,looks like sh^t-great movie but wait for something better


Posted by /^/-Flikz-\^\ on 06-22-2005 12:32 AM:

the darkness problem is far less extreme as most posters are claiming, still a very watchable copy... after viewing entire movie:

6/7/8 (very good movie)


Posted by -=GQ=- on 06-22-2005 01:26 AM:

I couldn't take the darkness after the first disc. I don't know what kind of TV people have who are rating the video 7 or higher, but I wish I had one.

4/8/8 (Based on 1st Disc)


Posted by NYLar on 06-22-2005 01:55 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by /^/-Flikz-\^\
the darkness problem is far less extreme as most posters are claiming, still a very watchable copy... after viewing entire movie:

6/7/8 (very good movie)



For the benefit of myself and others, could you please post what you watched this on (tv/pc) and whether or not you had to fiddle with any controls/settings to improve viewing quality.


Posted by cirr0 on 06-22-2005 02:09 PM:

v/6 a/7 m/5

everyone seems to be a "loyal centropy follower" are people afraid of saying anything but nice rls?

way too dark

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Posted by Gm4n on 06-22-2005 10:15 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by tallguy425
WTF is up with this guy...every thread is the samething!

he should be banned



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Posted by Mongoloid on 06-23-2005 03:13 AM:

It's not CTP's best, and it might be that i have a slightly better tv-set than others, but i really cant say that its as bad as some people portray.

For me the movie (so yes.. the video too) was very decent, and easy too follow.. very few scenes were THAT dark that u could barely see what was happening, and they were always indoor and meant to be dark coz that's just how it was back then without electricity.

It's a good movie too.. bit much leaning towards an oscar tho.. could be me but the director is trying too hard for that imo.

As far as ratings go :

V - 6.5 (could have been better.. most groups would have made it worse i'm sure, since there's no proper or any other copy out that is this watchable)
A - 8 (since DTS is dead i'm rating it as far as direct audio could go - this is no let down for sure)
M - 7.5 (good movie, but as i said before.. they're trying to hard for the oscar but that could just as well be me )


Posted by tpw115 on 06-23-2005 04:03 PM:

Video 4 Way to dark

Audio 6

Movie 9


Posted by Neversoft on 06-24-2005 07:02 AM:

ok... I've deleted every stupid/pointless post from this thread, next I start deleting accounts.

For anybody who cares, here is my take on this release:

The bright scenes are very crisp, clear and the colour is good.

The dark scenes are like they're from a different rip. Reddish, WAAAAAAAY dark and basically the scenes are reduced to "floating" red heads on a black background. We attempted to correct it using various filters on WinDVD (outputting to a 42" 1080i Plasma) and we couldn't affect the dark scenes enough to make them watchable. We also attempted to correct it by burning to a CD then playing back in the DVD player (and correcting on the TV itself) - still no joy.

Basically, you *can* improve the dark scenes a bit but they're still too dark to watch comfortably and as such, we turned the movie off after about 20 minutes.

On a side note, after skimming though the movie, there's a helluva lot of dark scenes

V - 6 (shame, cos the bright scenes are pretty damn nice)
A - 6 (slightly quiet and muffled but reasonable enough)
M - Dunno, but the 'tards on iMDB think it's better than sex

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Posted by bcool2k on 06-24-2005 11:47 AM:

Sorry CTP, NOT up to your usual standard. Yes it is watchable. But the pic is Darker than Batman Begins FFS. Thanks but i will wait for a TC or better.


6.5/8/?


Posted by remIxologIst on 06-25-2005 03:19 AM:

House of Cinderella????

Haven't got around to watching it on set top yet, but from sample and cue-mount, here's my verdict:

Video: 6.2 (Really dark guys, reminds me of House of Wax, not too bad in the fight scenes but even then it's a little washy)
Audio: 8 (Crisp enough for my liking)
Movie: N/A (Haven't watched full movie, will edit after watching)


Definitely not up to par for Centropy's usual TS quality, looks watchable if I set my settings on my DVD Player and TV just right, will hope for the best...

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Posted by siberain on 06-25-2005 04:22 PM:

Great release! Couldnt complain.. its the best thats out!


Posted by alundrety on 06-27-2005 06:57 AM:

i guess it all depends on the person

I couldnt stand it, watched 20, maybe 25 minutes into the film and enough was enough

too damn dark!

maybe 4?/6/?

bah, im spoiled now, i didnt used to be

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Posted by dvddavee on 06-27-2005 06:21 PM:

cheers centropy for trying.,, not following trends but my opinion dark but watchable if you want to see this and dont want to spend your $$ or wait for it to be released in uk its passable.


Posted by CyaNide on 06-27-2005 06:28 PM:

Based on Full Release

V:6 - Very dark during some scenes
S:9
M:9 - His best flick since Mystery Alaska

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Posted by fiendworld on 06-28-2005 06:09 AM:

I seen it at the theaters

the movie IS dark

so, untill a screener or rip this is pretty darn good

v-6.5 (consedering how dark the movie really is)
a-7
m-8


Posted by mattmatt02 on 06-29-2005 03:30 PM:

although it looks like a good movie, im not too desperate to watch it so i will wait for a retail rip.

usual centropy quality, just too dark

soz guys its a bit hard to watch

6.5/8/waiting till retail


Posted by MadGeordie on 08-04-2005 05:35 PM:

I enjoyed this film a lot and to be totaly honest this isn't the worst
release i've sat all the way through, but if your not in that much of
a hurry to see the film. i'd wait til a screener or a dvd rip appears.
In all not a half bad movie.

V : 6.5
A : 6.5
M : 7.5

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