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Posted by theycallme on 01-08-2003 04:46 AM:

1st post :P

well these guys are getting rls's out now.. gonna check this out :P


Posted by Druck on 01-08-2003 04:49 AM:

nice..ill check this out, if i cant find it..


Posted by psychoace on 01-08-2003 04:52 AM:

Ah crap just got done watching the vcd screener. Guess I am shit out of luck. I will just keep the vcd screener and spend my time doing other stuff then getting the svcd but i admitt v4f are doing good this is the most good releases they had ever look at there list of prev releases.


Posted by wykidnk on 01-08-2003 04:53 AM:

yeah.... v4f is rockin on the dvdscreeners, pics arent posted yet , lets keep our fingers crossed


Posted by SilentRAGE on 01-08-2003 04:53 AM:

good stuff...saw it in theaters but incredible and worth the download, long movie too.....nice release


Posted by dyno on 01-08-2003 04:54 AM:

Too Early Yet Again...

LOL--
I just missed this rls =|
I too just got done watching the VCD Screener. Will still have to get though, it looks pretty good.

Great Work!


Posted by Bobby-Whiskey on 01-08-2003 04:56 AM:

ahahaha i got a woodrow
this time i was smart enough to wait and not burn the vcd screener. This kicks ass


Posted by phate on 01-08-2003 04:56 AM:

Ah been waiting for this one...its like the only movie this holiday season i never saw in theaters. Thank god for the dvd screener, ive been refusing to download anything but svcd for the past 4 months. Thanks V4F!

will rate quality when i get the sample!


Posted by likwid8 on 01-08-2003 04:58 AM:

nice

chicago DVD SCR....

gangs of new york DVD SCR...


damn good job? whats next?

8 MILE SCR?? lol


Posted by ShakeyJake on 01-08-2003 05:06 AM:

i'd be happy with lotr:tt screener


Posted by Klonin on 01-08-2003 05:07 AM:

Runtime: 168 min

VCDQ shows 2 CDs, but release is actually 3, Update site.....

According to NFO.....

Format - SVCD/DVDrip
Size - 3 cds


Video Bitrate - 1810 Audio Bitrate - 224
Video Resolution - 480 x 480 Standard - NTSC

Not best but not bad..........Might have needed to be stretched out to 4 but no complaints.


Nice Release....

8,8,8


Posted by ushutdafukup on 01-08-2003 05:11 AM:

i dont understand how the svcd can be two disks and the vcd is three........i thought vcd's hold more then 1h 20min each. I seen the movie in the theaters and it was about 3hours long how can it fit on 2 svcds disks.

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Posted by imboot99 on 01-08-2003 05:13 AM:

Now can someone make a divx of this, and not fuck it up like NinJA!


Posted by chrisandcebu on 01-08-2003 05:16 AM:

Talking Another DVD-Screener

I don't think we need anymore dvd-screeners, there is just to many out there to download right now, NOT!!

This is great, another DVD-screener, thanks for the release,



Chris


Posted by Rep- on 01-08-2003 05:16 AM:

fuckign amazing. Kickass quality, kcikass movie. Shame I already watched the other Scr.


Posted by w33d on 01-08-2003 05:16 AM:

awesome, one fucking word AWESOME, this scene is A W E S O M E!!!


Posted by imboot99 on 01-08-2003 05:18 AM:

Now someone please release 8 mile!


Posted by your name here on 01-08-2003 05:18 AM:

fuck i new that someone was going to get the dvd scr too bad i watched the other scr but ill definatelly get this

suprised no 8 mile dvd scr yet

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Posted by gops782 on 01-08-2003 05:22 AM:

anyone know if they've posted it somewhere on irc yet?


Posted by Mr.Burns on 01-08-2003 05:24 AM:

Talking

wow, looks pretty cool as far as the jpegs go.
Just need to find a net and chan for download. Has anyone seen it on any channel yet?


Posted by clamsoda on 01-08-2003 05:24 AM:

Re: nice

quote:
Originally posted by likwid8
chicago DVD SCR....

gangs of new york DVD SCR...


damn good job? whats next?

8 MILE SCR?? lol



hmmm, *PRAYS FOR 8mile SCR*

Nice relase


Posted by findus on 01-08-2003 05:26 AM:

bloody hell

svcd already??

like above, i've just watched the screener and that was quality in its self......i don't think i'll bother getting this one


Posted by slaz on 01-08-2003 05:30 AM:

nice release by looking at the sample, thanks for the nice release!


Posted by your name here on 01-08-2003 05:31 AM:

doublke post sorry

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Posted by BouncinFromUK on 01-08-2003 05:33 AM:

wow shit hot V4F !!!

u guys r on a serious good roll

vid and audio r bout as best as there gonna get as for the movie i aint watched it yet , but heard some gr8 shit about , ill def be gettin this , thanxs and brilliant job !!

as for 8 mile , gimme a screener now !!! hahah


Posted by findus on 01-08-2003 05:36 AM:

cool cool cool cool.....but so was the screener


Posted by nvr on 01-08-2003 05:53 AM:

amazing quality. great movie too

9.7/10/8


Posted by Medievalchimp on 01-08-2003 06:10 AM:

quote:
something telling me there will be a dvd screener soon =/


BOOMSHAKALAKA(!) I was right thank you v4f quality looks great!

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Posted by Movieguy on 01-08-2003 06:15 AM:

t

Quality looks good judging from sample but i wont be picking this up cause i watched the vhs scr and its not that great of a movie movie i dont see why its up for so many awards well everyone to there own opinion


Posted by DougieZero on 01-08-2003 06:36 AM:

Re: t

quote:
Originally posted by Movieguy
Quality looks good judging from sample but i wont be picking this up cause i watched the vhs scr and its not that great of a movie movie i dont see why its up for so many awards well everyone to there own opinion

Bill the Butcher man... Bill the Butcher...


Posted by imboot99 on 01-08-2003 06:54 AM:

true true


Posted by phoR20 on 01-08-2003 07:01 AM:

it says 2 cd's but yet the NFO says 3


Posted by imboot99 on 01-08-2003 07:03 AM:

the quality is 100x better than the TCS one


Posted by SilentDeath on 01-08-2003 07:27 AM:

nice work V4F hope to see the cool dvd screener releases long after oscar season is over


Posted by meadowdale on 01-08-2003 07:28 AM:

why dose it sow as 2 cds when it is in tact 3 cds


Posted by BONE on 01-08-2003 07:37 AM:

arrrg .. just when i thought it was over THIS has to be released as a DVD Scr!!!
I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE .. TOO MUCH TOO MUCH .. BAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA .. ::cough cough::


Posted by phate on 01-08-2003 07:49 AM:

well, just goes to show all you people out there who go ahead and download the first release of a movie right away dont get blessed with the best quality. i always wait for the quality, and during oscar season, dvd screeners are the only way to go. not only that, but u can count on them coming really soon. just like lord of the rings...we know it is coming, just gotta wait

ill laugh at anybody who goes and starts downloading a screener of lotr:ttt before the dvd screener. if u want the dvd screener, then wait for it, no sense in wasting the bandwidth on something that ur just gonna be wanting to throw away within days.

(btw ive seen the pic of the dvd case for the two towers...the one that says "for your consideration" on the top of it. this means it must only be days away....! and yea, im sure there are lots of you out there who have seen it too. i cant wait!)


Posted by m-drew on 01-08-2003 08:03 AM:

I guess ill download this copy.

I wouldnt mind '8.Mile.DVD.SCREENER.SVCD-TCF'


Posted by fateswarm on 01-08-2003 08:17 AM:

Hotmail? Are they using hotmail?


Posted by vcd fogie on 01-08-2003 08:20 AM:

thanks v4f!

9/9/havent seen whole movie yet

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Posted by Ren on 01-08-2003 09:05 AM:

from how pixelated the sample looks it looks like a re-encode :/


Posted by horizonstar on 01-08-2003 09:58 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by phate
ill laugh at anybody who goes and starts downloading a screener of lotr:ttt before the dvd screener. if u want the dvd screener, then wait for it, no sense in wasting the bandwidth on something that ur just gonna be wanting to throw away
plztobe laughing at me for downloading the 3.5GB pDVD. then again, i'm OC-summin-or-other
quote:
btw ive seen the pic of the dvd case for the two towers...the one that says "for your consideration" on the top of it.
nice i never see these pics before i get the releases. where does one find them anyway?


Posted by SilentDeath on 01-08-2003 10:37 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ren
from how pixelated the sample looks it looks like a re-encode :/


fuck that, this rip is really nice


quote:
Originally posted by fateswarm
Hotmail? Are they using hotmail?


lol..i was thinking the same thing


Posted by Kbu11Dude on 01-08-2003 11:54 AM:

Good job V4F, 8/8/9

And check out Spicoli from Fast Times at Richmont High in the top right sample jpeg, lol.


Posted by rhedeye on 01-08-2003 12:08 PM:

kick ass release, but I hope they will releases their dvd screeners as 4-7 gig dvd-rip so I can burn a dvd-r, because I am never to fond of svcd releases. as vcd I can understand, but if you still going for an svcd it is only a little better quality!!! so please vf4 release the dvd-r!

thanks!


Posted by haggard on 01-08-2003 07:57 PM:

hahaha.. looks just spicoli
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very nice release
9/9/8


Posted by haggard on 01-08-2003 10:14 PM:

ahh just like rather


Posted by backoff on 01-08-2003 10:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ren
from how pixelated the sample looks it looks like a re-encode :/


Are you serious? SVCD releases always look pixelated in JPEG's you should know that...

Cant wait till it comes to where I can get it tomarrow or the day after. This gets my badass movie of last year award. It was fuckin awesome.

Edit: sorry bout that error just looked at the thing on the website it is 3 cd


Posted by Sonikku on 01-08-2003 10:55 PM:

hmm

Might get this eventually, but I just can't picture DiCaprio as a tough guy.


Posted by SilentRAGE on 01-09-2003 06:04 AM:

nuked on lots of places, a proper is in store (NUKED - *EXCEEDS MAX VID RATE OF 2450KBIT* ), movie was very good btw


Posted by Siefor on 01-09-2003 01:55 PM:

very nice the movie was better then I thought and a very good job done here very good quality

two thumps up!

:: Heh, thumps...


Posted by Mercenary13 on 01-09-2003 09:47 PM:

Just to clear up the 2 CD issue that VCDQuality posted it's actually 3 discs im downloading the third disc now.


Posted by Faceman on 01-10-2003 08:28 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mercenary13
Just to clear up the 2 CD issue that VCDQuality posted it's actually 3 discs im downloading the third disc now.


We all knew that.

quote:
Originally posted by rhedeye
kick ass release, but I hope they will releases their dvd screeners as 4-7 gig dvd-rip so I can burn a dvd-r, because I am never to fond of svcd releases. as vcd I can understand, but if you still going for an svcd it is only a little better quality!!! so please vf4 release the dvd-r!

thanks!



SVCDs are only a slight decrease in quality drop from DVD (if done right). VCD looks like crap unless on a small TV. Very big difference.


Posted by MaStERjedi420 on 01-10-2003 09:46 PM:

yah i was readin the nfo and it said 3cds so


Posted by Berserkr on 01-11-2003 06:30 PM:

KICKASS QUALITY!

this is without a doubt the BEST quality screener i have ever seen, so much so that i had to FINALLY register with vcdquality so i could raunt and rave about this. i have a brand new 47" projection hdtv and let me tell you, this svcd didn't look very much different from a widescreen dvd. as everyone knows,vcds look like shit on a big screen tv and most of the time these lame release groups don't encode svcds properly and so therefore they don't look that great but this time they were right on the money! the sound was nice too but you can't expect much from a svcd since it's not possible to get DTS 5.1 surround sound from a svcd. picture was near flawless and audio was perfectly in sync. you go V4F! even if you already saw the vcd release and even if ya didn't like the movie, you have to get the svcd just for the sake of seeing what a marvelous job of encoding they did with this release... wish they all could look this good! 10/9/8


Posted by just an addict on 01-11-2003 07:24 PM:

Nice rip I am glad i waited for the this one. cept I ges I gotta wait till sunday fer disk 3. Will just have to tidy up the office or do the washing up or something. maybe talk to my partner and child.

thanks again for this great film.


Posted by Resnullius on 01-11-2003 09:45 PM:

great release the movie didn't deserve the effort and quality tho happy i didn't pay to see this one.
10/10/5


Posted by nitemare on 01-12-2003 03:44 AM:

9/8/4

9 - PIC - Great. looks fantastic

8 - Sound - A bit disappointed. expected more in surround sound. just ok.

4 - movie - Very Disappointed! Violence? are u kidding me? all u need to watch in this flic is the first 10 minutes and last 10 minutes. the rest is crap.


Posted by dank bref on 01-12-2003 05:13 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Kbu11Dude
Good job V4F, 8/8/9

And check out Spicoli from Fast Times at Richmont High in the top right sample jpeg, lol.






fawking sheet ...I thought I was the only one that saw that..LOL

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Posted by lo.pro on 01-12-2003 01:17 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by SilentRAGE
nuked on lots of places, a proper is in store (NUKED - *EXCEEDS MAX VID RATE OF 2450KBIT* ), movie was very good btw


i just watched this, it was a great release. i know that it was nuked in places for the reason you say... but it's stupid; the 'svcd council' rules of 2002 have that 2450 max bitrate thing, which is lower than the SVCD standard specs dictate for SVCD, which makes no sense. maybe that's why TCF and some other groups didn't endorse those rules.

this release has a video bitrate with peaks of 2530Kbps, and 224Kbps audio; by even the most conservative interpretation of the SVCD standard specs, this is 2Kbps lower than the max combined bitrate, and 9Kbps or so lower than max for the video. So nuking according to those rules is lame. if you have a dvd player that says it plays svcd, and it falters at this bitrate, you was robbed. take it back and tell them it doesn't perform as advertised.

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Posted by target on 01-12-2003 08:21 PM:

i really love this movie.
great sound, great pic, great movie.
i wonder what this will sound like in german...hehe
i guess the natives will talk bavarian accent then?
and the irish like ppl do talk in northern germany?
i m just glad i got this fine screener.
thanx v4f


Posted by (s)vcdman on 01-12-2003 08:43 PM:

just got the 3cd vhs screener, abit pissed this is out. Gud release tho nice stuff


Posted by kidrock_uk on 01-13-2003 01:57 AM:

gangs of new york

could someone please tell me how to get my hands on the gangs of new york dvd screner!!!! please!!! thanks


Posted by Jaded4Ten on 01-13-2003 04:35 AM:

No Requesting!!!

figure it out yourself


Posted by Gee on 01-13-2003 09:46 AM:

Easiest way is, in future, win yourself an oscar, then you will be sent these screeners for nothing.

Bingo.

Oh and this is another worthy release.


Posted by kidrock_uk on 01-13-2003 11:39 AM:

gangs of new york

lol,phuck u nerdy boy and get a phucking life and stop being a little bitch on a keyboard,lol


Posted by timmay007 on 01-13-2003 12:31 PM:

i knew this looked like a bad release when i saw the sample and now i have proof:
this is from the /EXTRA dir from within the bin file (cause it was made with DVD2SVCD and whoever ripped it decided to show his stupidity by putting this in):
VIDEO INFO:
- Encoder: Cinema Craft Encoder 2.50.1.0
- Encoding mode: Multipass VBR
- Passes: 2
- Max. bitrate: 2530
- Avg. bitrate: 1729
- Min. bitrate: 300
- Image Quality Prio: 17
- Antinoise filter: No
- Linear quant. scale: Yes
- Zigzag scan order: Yes
- Upper field first: Yes
- Progressive frames: Yes
- iDCT Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX
- Resize method: SimpleResize
- Temporal smoother: No
- Sharpen: No
- NTSC Field Operation: Inverse Telecine, using Donald Grafts Decomb dll
- Deinterlace: None
- Pulldown: Yes
- Matrix:
--------------------
and gee...looking at the nfo it says : Video Bitrate - 1810

so not only did they lie about the bitrate saying its higher than it actually was...they only did a 2 pass rip of it. anyone with a clue how to encode knows that 2 pass is pathetic...3-5 needed for a quality rip...not only that but Antinoise filter was left off...come on now...dvd screeners are not fully mastered and would benefit greatly from that...but it was left off im sure to increase the encoding speed. And last but not least simpleresize was used...sad.
thx V4F, but no thx...ill wait for an internal of this


Posted by Jesus H Christ on 01-13-2003 06:52 PM:

nah m8, it's the dog's bollox!


Posted by A@ron on 01-13-2003 07:27 PM:

anyone else notice the bad packet at about 49 mins in the first cd or am I the only one? Wish I knew how to fix that problem.

A@ron


Posted by Gee on 01-13-2003 10:11 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by timmay007
i knew this looked like a bad release when i saw the sample and now i have proof:
this is from the /EXTRA dir from within the bin file (cause it was made with DVD2SVCD and whoever ripped it decided to show his stupidity by putting this in):
VIDEO INFO:
- Encoder: Cinema Craft Encoder 2.50.1.0
- Encoding mode: Multipass VBR
- Passes: 2
- Max. bitrate: 2530
- Avg. bitrate: 1729
- Min. bitrate: 300
- Image Quality Prio: 17
- Antinoise filter: No
- Linear quant. scale: Yes
- Zigzag scan order: Yes
- Upper field first: Yes
- Progressive frames: Yes
- iDCT Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX
- Resize method: SimpleResize
- Temporal smoother: No
- Sharpen: No
- NTSC Field Operation: Inverse Telecine, using Donald Grafts Decomb dll
- Deinterlace: None
- Pulldown: Yes
- Matrix:
--------------------
and gee...looking at the nfo it says : Video Bitrate - 1810

so not only did they lie about the bitrate saying its higher than it actually was...they only did a 2 pass rip of it. anyone with a clue how to encode knows that 2 pass is pathetic...3-5 needed for a quality rip...not only that but Antinoise filter was left off...come on now...dvd screeners are not fully mastered and would benefit greatly from that...but it was left off im sure to increase the encoding speed. And last but not least simpleresize was used...sad.
thx V4F, but no thx...ill wait for an internal of this



Erm, yeah thats very pretty, but have you actually watched it ?? Apart from the sample.


Posted by timmay007 on 01-14-2003 12:16 AM:

No I haven’t and I don’t need to...I’ve seen enough releases in my day to know which are worth watching and which are crap by the encoding methods. It’s a real shame that quality groups like iV take the time to encode properly (5 pass, bicubic resize) and groups like V4F can release a quick and shitty encode and people will go bonkers for it and rate it an 8.7...just cause it’s a DVD screener. Why even waste the time to do a quality rip? All u need to do is a 2-pass, simpleresize with dvd2svcd no less. It really is sad. And those of you that think that this is a good rip...I fart in your general direction! Use your eyes and your brain for once before you vote a 9 on video that honestly deserves nothing more than a 5...and that's being generous.


Posted by Scat on 01-14-2003 10:02 PM:

Nice bloody movie.

8/8/8


Posted by Pra3t0 on 01-15-2003 08:36 AM:

Video quality very good. Audio also good. Movie? Mehhh....

The costuming is a bit silly in this one. 2 ft tall tophats, etc. They may have dressed like that back then but those Red and Blue brightly colored sashes? C'mon, that just looked stupid.

Instead of Cameron Diaz they should've found a cuter, younger redhead, like Jennifer Garner maybe? Cameron was hot in The Mask but she ain't anymore.

Daniel Day Lewis was great as the Butcher. But why didn't more people try and shoot this bastard?

DiCaprio was... tolerable. The movie didn't pick up for me until after Leo recuperates from being "butchered". THEN the movie really kicks in.

But... overall it just felt like a live action cartoon... like that Popeye movie starring Robin Williams. Not realistic. Sorry, this one can't beat The Pianist.

9/9/7


Posted by Faceman on 01-15-2003 12:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Pra3t0
The costuming is a bit silly in this one. 2 ft tall tophats, etc. They may have dressed like that back then but those Red and Blue brightly colored sashes? C'mon, that just looked stupid.


While what you said before this was your opinion, which of course I will not argue like other morons on this forum, but they did wear stuff like that then. Anything with colours was fashionable. People even had purple houses or striped colour houses. Colour clothing was new and different and desirable.

@timmay007

Coming from your name I can see what type of person you are.

Anti-noise only softens the picture and you lose detail. It should only be done on high noise or pixelated sources. You want to keep the film look. The movie was perfect and I kinda wish LOTR2 was only 3cds. No need for that extra bitrate IMO.


Posted by lo.pro on 01-15-2003 02:57 PM:

i agree that 2 passes is pretty low. however, i do not believe that that reckoning takes into account the production of the *.vaf file, which in cce settings would count as another pass, making this the equiv of a 3-pass encode. not sure on that one. in any case, having watched the flick, i've got to say that it looked pretty good.

i agree that if you don't have to use a noise filter, you shouldn't.

simpleresize is fast, and generally does a pretty good job, actually. in fact, some are of the opinion that, for instance, bicubicresize is *not* ideal for reducing image size, only for enlarging... and that when reducing, one should use something more akin to bilinearresize (which is basically what simpleresize is).

decomb is an excellent ivtc/deinterlace filter.

so the bitrate doesn't match by a few k. what the average is set at is not necessarily what average bitrate was acheived, particularly when using cce, which has a tendency to run a bit over the average setting.

as for the movie itself, i thought it was decent but not outstanding. i think a lot of people are sort of missing something about the style: it's *supposed* to have that sort of "larger than life" quality; whomever said something about the popeye movie is actually on the right track; tho i think that perhaps "desperado" or even "charlie's angels" is a bit closer to the mark. like those flicks, this film was not supposed to be trying to convince you that it was an accurate portrayal of historical realities or convince you that it were 'really' happening, but more to present an almost mythopoeic image using archetypical figures (for those of you to whom this means anything, think roland barthes meets tarantino, but not as well done :p ) set in an era and place that many people have given little consideration to (generally when most ppl think of that time period, it's either images of the 'old west', or of civil war battles in the south... ppl rarely consider what might have been happening in new york back then). it was a good idea, only half pulled off -- tho i'll admit i thought this was one of dicaprio's better roles, usually i can't stand the guy.

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Posted by Gee on 01-15-2003 09:21 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by timmay007
No I haven’t and I don’t need to...I’ve seen enough releases in my day to know which are worth watching and which are crap by the encoding methods.



So why do you then ask me to....

quote:

Use your eyes and your brain for once before you vote a 9 on video that honestly deserves nothing more than a 5...and that's being generous.


So you vote based on the encoding method rather than actually downloading the movie ??

You gotta be kidding me ??!!


Posted by metaLmusiC on 01-16-2003 03:41 PM:

haha seen a few post cant say i really seen any post about any one saying they actually watched all this release but i didnt go through all of them all i mostly heard was sample this sample that bah STFU

this is a nice release great sound and picture nothing wrong with any of the cds...
good work keep them coming


you are a moron if you have problems with this release when clearly it is better then the others and i doubt you see another release of this for a while unless some group wants to be a asshole and release another one over people's comments...

btw...
this is a great movie i do wish there was more gang fights though really there is only 1 huge gang fight
i'm glad it took place in 1800s...
great story line
if you get a chance get this release and check out "the real gangs of new york" on the history channle.


Posted by SharkeysMachine on 01-21-2003 07:16 PM:

I waited for the Dvd Screener on this one, and it was well worth the wait. I can't say anything bad about the movie at all. Great performances by everyone (especially Daniel Day Lewis), and the big gang rumbles were cool. Watched this one on my Dvd player and had no problems with anything through all 3 disks. Great Release V4F!

9/9/10


Posted by btz on 01-22-2003 02:19 PM:

This movie worth watching? dont really like leo, but if the movie is good il download it


Posted by Dspot on 02-04-2003 10:26 PM:

No, this movie fuckin sucked. I usually can tolerate dicaprio, not that i like him cus hes a faggot, but i can usually tolerate his movies, like catch me if you can that was pritty good, and so was beach but this movie fuckin sucked ass. I was basically pissed that i lost two hours of my life watching this piece of shit movie. It could have been ok, but half way through the movie it went to hell. The first scene was the only good part, atleast thats my opinion, so if you want to waste two hours to be pissed off afterwards then watch it, but otherwise watch something decent.

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Posted by lo.pro on 02-05-2003 01:10 PM:

if you thought "the beach" was good, you've got no business recommending movies ;P

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