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Posted by IRC_Moviefan on 04-22-2005 07:58 PM:

Alrighty , i know theres a rule here , "No Making fun of groups" .... but VCDQ modz , this one is too good to pass up!!!!

-TheEnd gets my stupidest release group of the year vote !!!

Why ?

Well for starters this "TELECiNE" of theirs, they shoulda knowen it was from the XviD DVDScr to start with , just major cropped to take out the subs.

Now also they shoulda noticed how pixelated and blocky this copy was ...

This copy is floating around the streets of NYC being sold as a Silver , all it is, is the XviD DVDScr re-encoded (as mentioned) , and cropped to take out the subs.

(Im assuming they got the silver , and werent dumb enough to download it from an xdcc channel and release it)

Now Silver .... since when has a Silver EVER been a TELECiNE ??? ...

So not only did they lable this Silver (which they bought) as a TELECiNE ... TheEnd didnt even take the time to notice the TMD/LMD whatever watermark bottom right of the screen , which came from a public IRC channel or BT.

Nice Scene released TELECiNE -TheEnd

Hope this gives you all a good laugh as it gave me.

0/0/?


Posted by -={EtHErZ}=- on 04-22-2005 08:24 PM:

Well well well!

Brilliant analysis IRC_Moviefan!

But don't knock this release, its not been nuked yet!


Posted by milkybrkid on 04-22-2005 08:27 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by -={EtHErZ}=-
Well well well!

Brilliant analysis IRC_Moviefan!

But don't knock this release, its not been nuked yet!



Yes it has.


Posted by D0BB0 on 04-22-2005 08:28 PM:

well recode of the "dvd screen" cropped to hide subs ar is shite, why bother releasing this ill never no specialy being that what they codded from was nuked.


Posted by eagle1 on 04-22-2005 08:31 PM:

This aint no telecine

Its a XviD DVDScr re-encoded of the MoF - Screener

Already watch this and it is good copy

I really dont care about scene politics of releases....

as for the quality

7/8/8


Posted by lozman on 04-22-2005 08:44 PM:

so im assuming this is still missing the begining as just as
re-encode :-(


so this will be a total waist of time ?


Posted by Neversoft on 04-22-2005 08:47 PM:

BETS REALISE EVAR!

V - 10
A - 10
M - 10

YUO GOYS R 14MERS, TMD IS A LEET TOPSITE!

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Posted by Wanderer22 on 04-22-2005 08:48 PM:

Okay, let me see if I've got this right:

DVDScr>XviD>TMD>Silver>TheEnd

So it's a re-encode of a re-encode of a re-encode? Gee, and they're probably surprised by the nuke.. lol.

Do the groups even LOOK at what they're doing these days? Some of the things I've seen lately makes me wonder...


Posted by NewbieSnipa on 04-22-2005 08:50 PM:

This group is like the real XPC, way to go!

10/10/1000


Posted by Horton on 04-22-2005 08:59 PM:

Holy hell, how do you miss that? when cutting the sample you obviously must see the video, so they have no excuse for this. the TMD logo is like the ice cream on the cake, and i find it funny at the labeling, too. go correlation for the source w00t..



1/1/x


Die TheEnd - silly reencode group..although they did do the I Robot DVDSCR..hmmm..


Posted by bmvtoys on 04-22-2005 09:00 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Neversoft
BETS REALISE EVAR!

V - 10
A - 10
M - 10

YUO GOYS R 14MERS, TMD IS A LEET TOPSITE!



even this made me post..which rarely ever happens..can anyone tell me how to be as leet as this group?

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Posted by lindoors on 04-22-2005 09:04 PM:

1 what is this crap......jesus worst release ive ever seen //TMD they should have gave up ages ago,bad enough there compressed to the max avi/s


Posted by dvddavee on 04-22-2005 09:04 PM:

movie is missing 18 mins from the start,watched this at theatre last weekend & it is definatly missing 18 mins.if you want this (missing the start) get xvid dvdscr correlition


Posted by vip3r on 04-22-2005 09:05 PM:

Long time no post, huh? Well, i hate to stop your laughing and jokes, but, as mentioned in the xvid's nfo..there was a 30 second watermark in the bottom right hand corner, that they had to cover up, so, they chose to cover it up with LMD, not TMD..

We had a 30sec watermark to cover, so excuse the small temp \
\ logo, LMD, Last Mark Done /
\ Has Spanish subs, so live with it

..and trust me, if it said TMD to begin with, they would have covered it up with something different or blurred it out, because we all know TMD is lame. Anyways, i will take this over the xvid..i don't give two shits if it came from fucking India - it has 2 channel audio, subs are cropped out, and the picture isn't bad, oh and wait..it just went into theaters today and it's a dvdscr! So as far as im concerned, you people need to fucking wake up and smell the coffee as this is a plenty good release until retail.


Posted by DTB on 04-22-2005 09:07 PM:

sorry ,my inglish is BAD ,very Bad

TMD? or LMD(p2p web spanish)?

This logo is present in 99% "rls" of LMD(limitedivx)

I'm spanish and i see this logo previously.


Posted by younpadawan1 on 04-22-2005 09:11 PM:

I'm usually the first to defend any group who tries but this release has a false beginning, a universal logo to start, a few seconds from the trailer that gives the title and the two stars, then cuts to the a scene way past the beginning (ie they have tried to disguise the missing beggining) Sorry but films missing large chunks of story are of no use to anyone


Posted by IRC_Moviefan on 04-22-2005 09:37 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by younpadawan1
I'm usually the first to defend any group who tries but this release has a false beginning, a universal logo to start, a few seconds from the trailer that gives the title and the two stars, then cuts to the a scene way past the beginning (ie they have tried to disguise the missing beggining) Sorry but films missing large chunks of story are of no use to anyone


Actually from what i understand , that was added on by the wonderful people selling the silver in NYC. Just like Sin City DVDR , once a group releases a nice copy online , usually makes its way to the black market with some addons like trailers for SVCD or Custom menu's , added audio/subs for DVDR.

In the end . This came from a Silver , its from the original DVDScr XviD , and its a re-encode .


Posted by conagra100 on 04-22-2005 10:03 PM:

late april fools boys

i give this release a 100% waste of time ha ha... there is no need to rate it it is already out somewhere else copies dont count thanx for trying!!!!! The end


Posted by HaLiKuS on 04-22-2005 10:26 PM:

It is kinda funny. THERE IS btw a non-subbed 1 cd xvid The.Interpreter.WS.DVDSCR.XviD-MoF. Is this missing the beginning also like every other release?

TMD = The Movie Downsamplers


Posted by XAVeRY on 04-22-2005 10:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by HaLiKuS
TMD = The Movie Downsamplers

you're wrong...they're The Movie Depot!
well, it seems that l33tness is taking over the world it's just funny that such a group (TheEnd) does a shitty re-encode of a re-encode of a re-encode (as Wanderer22 said) : just look at their NFO - it says "the end of the scene is near...blah blah...blah blah..." just like they wrote about themselves

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Posted by IRC_Moviefan on 04-22-2005 11:11 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by HaLiKuS
It is kinda funny. THERE IS btw a non-subbed 1 cd xvid The.Interpreter.WS.DVDSCR.XviD-MoF. Is this missing the beginning also like every other release?


Its fake ..


Posted by thomasball on 04-22-2005 11:16 PM:

yes, its a fake, its not really a MoF release. Its the other cropped one re-named.


Posted by Anno on 04-22-2005 11:19 PM:

Don't comment too often on releases but thought i would for this 1 as every1 seems to be

I tried to watch the XviD but couldnt stand the right channel only audio, subs were tollerable though. All the same i gave up watching it.
I realise there are scene rules and understand the reasons for the nuke and also how stupid this group are for trying to pull a fast 1, but.. This version is better imo to watch sound is much better and even if the subs are cropped out you don't feel you are missing a huge part of the picture.
Cant really vote numbers on it though for obvious reasons, but if you want to watch a nice quality copy of this movie (thats only just hit the cinemas) then my vote would go for this 1.

I hear another XviD encode of the screener with fixed audio and the missing minutes from the start will be availble on usenet this weekend, not a scene release but will probably be the best to date for any1 that cares.


Posted by IRC_Moviefan on 04-22-2005 11:32 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Anno
This version is better imo to watch sound is much better and even if the subs are cropped out you don't feel you are missing a huge part of the picture.
Cant really vote numbers on it though for obvious reasons, but if you want to watch a nice quality copy of this movie (thats only just hit the cinemas) then my vote would go for this 1.



The sound is no different from the Correlation XviD DVDScr as its the same source. Also ... nice quality ? This copy has half bodies which are very noticeable so yes you do feel your missing lots. Also ... this is very blocky & pixelated unlike the Correlation DVDScr. The only pixelation on the Correlation copy was during a codec issue , this was just dropped down tons of frames , resolution , etc ...

Still to this day if you want a copy , my opinion would be to get the Correlation Copy and just "Fix" CD2 glitches (read Correlation thread)


Posted by Dupey on 04-22-2005 11:39 PM:

lmao at this rls and grp, but
just to correct ppl saying begining is missing, the xvid, this reencode and any other version is not missing anything (except a few ENG subs are needed in 2 scenes, at least, when another language is spoken and is not a scene where anything is being interpreted , and begining credits) as the first scene is nicole kidman hearing "in a whisper; someone is going to be assasinated" ,etc.
pretty good movie though

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Posted by infinityfsp2002 on 04-22-2005 11:55 PM:

quote:
[i]
I tried to watch the XviD but couldnt stand the right channel only audio, subs were tollerable though. All the same i gave up watching it.
I realise there are scene rules and understand the reasons for the nuke and also how stupid this group are for trying to pull a fast 1, but.. This version is better imo to watch sound is much better and even if the subs are cropped out you don't feel you are missing a huge part of the picture.
Cant really vote numbers on it though for obvious reasons, but if you want to watch a nice quality copy of this movie (thats only just hit the cinemas) then my vote would go for this 1.



Do you understand what a re-encode is? this cannot be better than the original copy, you cant gain quality through a re-encode. Plus its mislabeled, a TC would obvious not have a watermark. So even if its not TMD in the corner (which would be very funny), TheEnd are just a bunch of idiots releasing crap.

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Posted by UltrA1 on 04-23-2005 12:02 AM:

omg stolen/ get a clue...


Posted by krazyfoo on 04-23-2005 12:34 AM:

dont care what anyone says... its a fuckin TMD watermark.

you can tell how they might want to pass it off as a large L..for LMD.. too ease the embarresment.. but nope folks.. its blatantly TMD..

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Posted by Arthur Daily on 04-23-2005 12:35 AM:

BUSTED!!!





lol but im happy, coz i couldnt get cd2 of the Xvid to work, so i'll watch this one

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Posted by directv on 04-23-2005 01:39 AM:

ever again mention where to get releases and you're banned

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Posted by scousethief on 04-23-2005 01:41 AM:

looks more like Lmd the underline doesnt go to the end the letters also the underline is closer to the | of the L than it is to the other letters og and it doesnt look anything like a t


Posted by snozzler29 on 04-23-2005 01:47 AM:

i was wondering if they had used that for the source as i didnt wanna download a svcd just to check lol


Posted by DJ_Laher on 04-23-2005 01:54 AM:

it indeed is LMD (limitedivx.com)

As for quality, it being a re-encode, i don't mind and as for scene politics couldnt care less.

5/7/X


Posted by bob0r on 04-23-2005 02:21 AM:

Thumbs down

dvdscr yellow subs (spanish)
tc white subs (english)

why cropped? only the kiddies know


Posted by Califax on 04-23-2005 03:37 AM:

LOL

I love your post IRC Movie Fan, but does this even deserve a vote? 0/0/?

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Posted by TMA-2 on 04-23-2005 04:27 AM:

Maybe they're making a joke similar to XPC, but taking it a lot farther. I hope.

Seriously, great release TheEnd. Video just looks better each time it's re-encoded.

0/0/x


Posted by scottyb25 on 04-23-2005 06:23 AM:

lmfao

i didnt even know tmd was still around the last tmd movie i watched was panic room!!!!! it was so damn dark you couldnt even see it that was pre bt how funny


Posted by Xlander on 04-23-2005 06:38 AM:

TheEnd is Near, TheEnd of the scene, due all the faggots
around and call em self sceners,
Look in the mirror you won't miss the reflection there of yourself for this release.


well we have seen what happend to the scene the last year,
And you do this kind of release?

all the busts all over and what is the reason?
Because other groups rather release something of THEIRS... not re-done stuff

well selling.
Would anyone want to buy this... if they knew it's "history" of re-encode?

insecure sites etc...
Like TMD?

TheEnd wants to encurage all the fucking lamers out there who are ruining the scene to stop it and make it what it was before a secure place BY sceners FOR sceners!!!
Hmmmmm... with this release you are a fucking lamer! And you just fucked up your "rep" with this fucking release

not for DC kiddies or eBay ppl to buy....
Or go and get TMD movies (props to them for being the source of course, lol) and label it theirs!


I think they need to have a Fucking sweet.. prefect ass release NEXT or you might wanna have a name change for this release fucked your rep the fuck up.. lol


Posted by Anno on 04-23-2005 06:57 AM:

I normaly agree with your posts here IRC_Moviefan more times than not and repect your opinions but on this release i have to disagree..
I have watched this release from start to finish on my TV, the ONLY pixelation/blockiness occurs for less than 2 seconds in the opening credits (yeah those fake 1s bolted on) and not at all thru the rest of the film so no need to apply any fixes to this. both CDs play fine with decent encoded SVCD picture. (certainly is on a TV anyway) You also say that the cropping results in half bodies, well if you had said tops of heads missing i would half agree yes, in the close up scenes the tops of heads are missing but those scenes are few and far between and there certainly isn't any scenes showing half bodys that i noticed. I myself am normaly quite critical about cropping but with this release there is the obvious reason for it (cutting out the subs) so it's all down to personal prefrence on this 1 whether you want a larger pic with hard coded subs or the cropped without. The lesser of the 2 evils for me on this is the cropped 1 and gave me more viewing pleasure without the subs than with. (but hey i can understand others not agreeing on that)
But the clincher for me to prefer this release over correlations is the audio. You say this is the same audio as correlation which obviously as it's the same source will be but, correlations had voice audio from the right channel only and background sounds from the left, this encode they have tinkered with it and the result.. audio plays evenly from both which imo is a big plus. (don't believe me stick some headphones on and listen to correlations and then try this 1)

Yes this group was very foolish in their actions on this release and probably deserve all they are getting but i am glad they released it (even though i probably shouldn't be) no pixelation, fixed audio and removal of the subs in a way that is acceptable. (iv'e seen many others cropped worse that get less comments passed here about it )

Just wanted to add this as it seems that i am the only 1 that has actually watched this version lol.


Posted by staggersw on 04-23-2005 09:05 AM:

Funny you guys would say that that's a reencode of a tmd reencode... The Correlation DVDscr had the same damn watermark popping up in that and a some other scenes.

Also the watermark appears in the lower right corner of both releases and that would probably be cropped off too if TheEnd really did reencode correlation and crop the subs.


Posted by moby008 on 04-23-2005 09:09 AM:

I' m sorry, but the only thing I can make of this "release" is utterly crap

TMD: The Masters of Disaster

1/1/?


Posted by IRC_Moviefan on 04-23-2005 10:40 AM:

One more jab .. just wanted to post on their nfo :

quote:
Originally posted by TheEnd nfo
TheEnd is Near, TheEnd of the scene, due all the faggots
around and call em self sceners ..... not for DC kiddies
or eBay ppl to buy .... like we said if this continues TheEnd is near....



Ohh the irony

All their English releases have been nuked all because encoding problems or they didnt research properly ..

http://www.vcdquality.com/index.php?genre=1&grp=1247

The.Interpreter.TC.XviD-TheEnd
The.Interpreter.SVCD.TC-TheEnd
RE-ENCODED from: The.Interpreter.READ.NFO.DVDSCR.XViD-Correlation

The.Jacket.TC.SVCD-TheEnd
The.Jacket.TC.XviD.REPACK-TheEnd
RE-ENCODED from: The.Jacket.SVCD.TS-SAOSiN

SuperBabies.Baby.Geniuses.2.2004.WS.SVCD.DVDRiP.REPACK-TheEnd
Problem: 48khz audio & Superbabies 2 was only released as FS DVD , so obviously cropped & nuked.

The Only releases of theirs in which havent been nuked are all forgien releases such as SWESUB/SWEDISH releases.

In my opinion , buying silvers isnt working as if its released online already, its more then likley the same copy on that silver. Tryin to trick , hide , mislable , etc the releases , just pisses people off and as you can tell by this thread , TheEnd has lost any respect it might have had. The need a new English Movie supplier , either that , or stick to what they do best , Swedish movies. I appreaciate when grps bring new releases , but the same movie re-encoded over n over n over ... by not just TheEnd , but a few other grps , is getting pretty lame .

But then again .... my opinion doesnt count


Posted by Redemption1980 on 04-23-2005 11:21 AM:

Its been a while since i have saw a TMD release, nearly 3 years i think, but from what i can remember, aren't they like split into two sub200mb files, which are very low resolution and have a framerate of about 10-15fps, there is no way this is from anything like that, the quality on this is actually quite good and there are no framerate problems that i can see.

I think everyone here is just to easy to jump on the flaming bandwagon, my girlfriend saw this thread, and the first thing she said was "What a bunch of bitchy women".

So i have a question, How many people who have posted, have the full release of this and watched it or at least went through it properly.



7/7/8


Posted by IRC_Moviefan on 04-23-2005 11:34 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Redemption1980
So i have a question, How many people who have posted, have the full release of this and watched it or at least went through it properly.




Actually , this Copy hit the steets of NYC 3 days ago, remembering that -TheEnd bought a Silver from there also (which was SAOSiN's TS of The Jacket) and tried to release as a telecine, it was easy to assume right when first seen the dirname, after downloading the first rar , assume turned into confirm

Seriously, i dont understand how they thought a Silver could be anymore then a TS at best , like i said , how many silvers are TELECiNE's ? (before online release)


Posted by Redemption1980 on 04-23-2005 12:03 PM:

Im not denying that IRC_Moviefan, or that The End are a bit of a stupid group, but i think the TMD stuff is aload a crap, and the majority of the post on this so far as just people who dont have this, just looking for an excuse to flame someone, especially when it look like some people can tell the Difference between a T and a L


Posted by jakobie on 04-23-2005 02:28 PM:

Question Where's the ending...........lol

Well everyone here seems to know that the beginning is missing. However the ending is missing as well. I could have a bad file. has anyone else noticed this?


Posted by Da Postman on 04-23-2005 02:42 PM:

OK, everyone has been laying the wood to these guys. Few and I mean few have rated the release, if this release was just a TS...you people would be giving them props. You guys are sick, the video is good and clean. Yes, there is some cropping, but to have this release the same day of the movies. Come on, anytime anywhere else you guys would be happy. The sound is good also, I'm happy with it and will download it. If there is another one without cropping, I'm there until then this is a good copy.

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Posted by BiggD23 on 04-23-2005 02:43 PM:

Obviously mislabeled but it's not from TMD...I've had the misfortune of seeing some TMD avis in the past and they tag their releases with their *full* channel name and not with a logo. And if I remember correctly they tag somewhere in the black bar on the bottom, not over the video itself.

(Besides the fact that the logo clearly looks like an L and not an T.)


Posted by SaabZ on 04-23-2005 04:30 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by IRC_Moviefan
Its fake ..


Your wrong bro its not fake i watched it last night
However its a re-encode of the Correlation release with the subs cropped off
Kinda funny really because in a couple of parts you can still see the top of the cropped subs in it


Posted by krazyfoo on 04-23-2005 06:10 PM:

it wasnt an actual pre from MoF .. SaabZ

hence its fake.

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Posted by EViL-EWoK on 04-23-2005 07:23 PM:

ur so fast to point the finger.
wow wee u found the tmd watermark.
congrads you can see

you gotta remeber this shit is
FREE, you dont do jack for it.
all you do it double click ur mouse

take it or leave it.
and i dont give 2 shits about a tmd watermark.

8/8/?

cheap source? yes
but im glad they did it , now i dont have to fix the audio myself.

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Posted by dontgiveafuck on 04-23-2005 08:04 PM:

haha. this is not fake?

ok then i'm watching this. I don't care what you guys say.


Posted by vip3r on 04-23-2005 09:17 PM:

Exactly! This is why i stopped posting here. Fucking kiddies thinking everything has to be 100% quality. If it wasn't for these groups, there would be NO SCENE. I mean shit, this is a dvdscr..and it just hit the theaters. Who fucking cares if it is TMD? I sure don't, i'll watch the release and enjoy it while you kiddies bitch on this forum...all i have to say


Posted by Scouse1 on 04-23-2005 09:39 PM:

In my Opinoion.........Iwatched it and enjoyed it! so all you "group groupies" stop kissing arse cast your votes....If you wanna watch this movie then watch this one.....It may have a bit missing but it doesn't matter....(honest). To all scene Gurus either put up or shut up!!!! I appreciate all scene releases as they are free!! both free as in" free beer" and free as in "free speech" so when you have to pay you have the right to complain! most people read this site to get an idea of the quality of the release so stop bogging us down in sh*te with your f*cking scene snobbery as most of you have never had f*ck all....(and never will do) have anythig to do with the "scene...my rant over!!

::EDIT:: What's the point in having a QUALITY review website if people can't point out little problems like missing scenes ect? How useful would this site be if everybody just went "w00t, great release!"? - Neversoft::

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Posted by eagle1 on 04-23-2005 11:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by vip3r
Exactly! This is why i stopped posting here. Fucking kiddies thinking everything has to be 100% quality. If it wasn't for these groups, there would be NO SCENE. I mean shit, this is a dvdscr..and it just hit the theaters. Who fucking cares if it is TMD? I sure don't, i'll watch the release and enjoy it while you kiddies bitch on this forum...all i have to say



Totally agree !

This is still a very watchable release 7/8 + it only hit cinemas on friday - I would like to know what the guys on here with the big mouths bring to the scene party - probably nothing but leechers i guess

This is a DVDSCREENER released same day as it hit the cinema , would u rather have some crappy cam ? Guess not !

Another thing its not pixelated until after the movie finishs for about 10 sec - IRC_Moviefan - I suggest u look at your codecs , cause this is the second time i seen u post this and the movie aint pixelated its actually fine.

I respect people who keep releases coming good or bad - and yes i agree with the nuke as this was defo mislabed , defo no telecine but i think respect is due as it is decent copy . The
question is do u want to watch with subs or not ....my answer would be the latter !

I think the flaming going on here is unjust and not needed ,

end of rant


Posted by IRC_Moviefan on 04-23-2005 11:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by vip3r
Exactly! This is why i stopped posting here. Fucking kiddies thinking everything has to be 100% quality. If it wasn't for these groups, there would be NO SCENE. I mean shit, this is a dvdscr..and it just hit the theaters. Who fucking cares if it is TMD? I sure don't, i'll watch the release and enjoy it while you kiddies bitch on this forum...all i have to say


Alrighty , so its ok that RE-ENCODED movies can be scene released ?? Seriously who wants 10 Copies of the Exact same Movie ?? ... Just cause one group thinks they can encode better then the next . This is the exact same issue when there was the flood of silvers 4 months ago (TS's) , Exact same shitty quality movie just different formats and a shitload of propers cause the next grp *thinks* they can encode better.

I cant believe any of you are actually saying this is good , from what i seen this was overcropped , extremly blocky and pixelated. No Matter what you guys also says this had been passed down from the original XviD DVDScr at least 3 times. As we all know the XviD DVDScr had major encoding issues. So by re-encoding it more n more , the same screwed source , how is that improving it ? You cant make that AR better , cutting the subs off makes it the screen and the movie look lame , like the COBRA TELESYNC's they tried to cut off the subs. Only thing that could have been fixed better was the sound *IF* someone had DTS Disk audio , not some recorded audio , or of course , the actual DVD Sound. Each time the same source gets re-encoded the frames per second , among other things on the picture do get messed up.

Which brings me to a point, you guys keep praising these re-encode grps , now say TMD , SMR , LMD , whoever started *affil'n* sites and releasing re-encoded movies, is that alright??? ... i didnt think so , but yet you guys are praising their quality on this release and saying how much better it is. If you guys want re-encoded movies , theres public IRC channels and bittertorrent . The Scene isnt the place for it ... imo.

Also remember , if it wasnt for grps such as SAOSiN, TUN , Wastedtime, VideoCD , NOX , Corrolation ... groups such as TheEnd, iNVFX , WESTSiDE , etc wouldnt be around to have these released ... why ?? cause all they do is take real grps sources , re-encode it and either lie saying *** grp gave them permission , OR mislable it call it a TC, DVDScr whatever.

If i was in a *real* release grp , by real i mean actually got the original source , and released for fun but yet some kiddies kept taking my source , re-encoding it , mislabling it , propering you with your own source , etc (as whats happening in the scene right now), just so they can get leech on their rented sites. Id be on the verge of saying fuck it , and fuck the scene.

Which im sure also is gonna happen if re-encode grps keep flocking in like they are.

2 years ago if anyone even thought about taking another grps source and re-encoding and releasing it , not only were they flammed but got banned on mutiple places. Like i said , if you want to re-encode , IRC channels , BT is a great place to release ... sites arent.

I do agree though , that formats like XViD are becomming more and more feeasable , 3 years ago if someone said do you download DiVX movies , i prob woulda replied "i wouldnt touch it with a 10 foot pole" . Months ago i stopped touching VCD TV and only download HDTV XviD now. Since i got my phillips dvd player (xvid) , i dont touch SVCD anymore unless its the only format out of a movie i want to see. I agree a 1CD XviD TS from SAOSiN would be a lot nicer then a 2 or 3 CD SVCD. Mabey someday they will release an XviD format TS .

Now back to *Quality* .. lets use TUN's TC's as a perfect example:
The.Pacifier.TC.SVCD-TUN was released as we all know ..
The.Pacifier.TC.AC3.5.1.XViD-iNVFX a few days later.

iNVFX is nothing but a re-encode of the TUN SVCD. the AC3.5.1 track is mislabled and its still the same sound as the SVCD. Now cause this re-encode grp quickly downloaded the SVCD , re-encoded it to XviD , and released it. We still havent seen a copy from MoF (TUN's XviD grp), and im sure they said fuck it. You (the people who praised this re-encoded release) prob are saying who cares , its out. This is exactly the issue im getting at ... TUN has vob files from the TELECiNE and encodes it to SVCD , now MoF will also use those VOB Files to encode to XviD. What is iNVFX's source ?? Oh ya the SVCD ! As said on many occasions XviD is better quality then SVCD. So now we got an re-encoded XViD of the SVCD , and MoF with the original vobs is saying fuck it. (rather then propering this lame re-encode grp)

RE-Encoded TS's , TC's , DVDScr , etc are like the "DVDShrink" of XviD/DVDScr . We all perfer CCE encoded DVDR's as their nice copies of retail. DVDShrink on the other hand is nowhere near the same quality as CCE , although DVDShrink copies are good for home use , they shouldnt be scene released. Quality is moderate but not outstanding.

TheEnd's copy of this movie, i dont care what any of you say. Other then stripping the sound and replacing it with a DVD Source , or DTS disc audio , nothing gets "better" but only worse. Each time its passed down , re-encoded , etc , it gets butchered more. You loose frames , birate , etc.

Pretty soon unless these grps stop being gay and re-encoding real release grps movies, trying to proper them with their own source or releasing diff format so they can keep their leech wherever , im sure alot of real grps will say fuck it ...

.. and then where will your good copies of TheEnd be ? Oh ya they wont have a source !


Posted by Califax on 04-24-2005 12:19 AM:

Great post IRC, made a lot of sense. MoF is one of my favorite groups and when groups do a reincode that does shit, why would they bother sometimes when someone else failed

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Posted by leecherRus on 04-24-2005 06:40 AM:

i remember tmd, lol, before i learned about mirc


Posted by NightLong on 04-24-2005 10:08 AM:

the ratings are up the wall on this site,nothing wrong with this movie

8/8/9


Posted by infinityfsp2002 on 04-24-2005 12:12 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by NightLong
the ratings are up the wall on this site,nothing wrong with this movie

8/8/9



Another retarded comment. Yeah, theres nothing wrong with it apart from the fact its mislabelled and is already released by Correlation.

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Posted by Redemption1980 on 04-24-2005 12:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by infinityfsp2002
Another retarded comment. Yeah, theres nothing wrong with it apart from the fact its mislabelled and is already released by Correlation.


I dont remember any SVCD vesion of this, never mind a Correlation SVCD of this, could be wrong though, but as far as i know this is the only SVCD version and is a perfectly fine release.

I think people prefer first releases to be Cam's, cause they are so much better than this.


Posted by scousethief on 04-24-2005 02:08 PM:

some people need glasses


Posted by Ace25 on 04-24-2005 06:54 PM:

I think some people have waaaay to much time on their hands. For the layman who is just looking to get a decent copy of the movie, this one is great for the speed. I could care less if group 1 and 2 put it out first, because this is the only copy I could find. So if there are 2 other versions and this is a reencode, so be it, maybe the other groups should share their files.

That being said, my ratings for this movie (And I am actually rating it just on what your supposed to!)

Video - 8 (to bad the english subs are cut in the few scenes where they are needed)

Audio - 7 (seems to get slightly out of sync every so often but quickly corrects itself)

Movie - 6 (ok movie, but just didnt keep me in my chair)

Its not often you get something of this quality within 24 hours of release in US theatres.


Posted by dontgiveafuck on 04-24-2005 07:39 PM:

hmm. on second thought, i would have rather watched the xvid release, even with the spanish subs...


Posted by Lord_Gandalf on 04-24-2005 11:40 PM:

Holy horseshit batman....

Movie: 7
Effort: F
Respect: -999*











*repeated


Posted by mongo on 04-25-2005 12:52 AM:

just a ?

ok it is a nice release but isnt the first of the movie missing


Posted by savman on 04-25-2005 12:54 AM:

yup..this release is ok...but trailer has been added 2 the beginin..lol...but both where ok...lets just hope a full release comes soon as both are missin beging and end?....7/7/6


Posted by Redemption1980 on 04-25-2005 06:00 AM:

All the release of this film are a bit fucked up, thats what ive found, and its of no fault of the group, they all have AR problems which can be fixed though, they all appear to have missing footage, although since i havent saw this at the Cinema, i cant confirm how much, and they all either have Subs or a severly cropped.

This is a perfectly fine release compared to the others.
"Worst release Ever" not a chance, its not even the worst release this week, that has to go to Cobra's release of State Property.


Posted by Sn1tZ on 04-25-2005 09:15 AM:

Angry tisk tisk tisk

what a pity, a nuke. Not a good start for a new group definetly leave it alone.


Posted by fluffinator on 04-25-2005 12:56 PM:

wow, what can be said?

slightly lower quality then the original xvid.

Logo in the bottom right corner shows this is a blatant lie. It's a reencode of the xvid encode of the dvd scr.

Watch the xvid if you need to.

not even bothering since it was nuked.

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Posted by spotme on 04-25-2005 01:08 PM:

is this the same release that is missing the first 20 min. of the movie?


Posted by virtualpal on 04-25-2005 02:33 PM:

I didnt mind the movie at all, I can live with the cropping, its not that bad if you just want to watch the movie its fine.
but why cut out the english subs, there are parts of the movie where they are actually needed, like when the Africans are talking COOGIE or what ever lingo it was.
cant blame a group for trying though....

V - 8
A - 9
M - 6


Posted by Anaconda on 04-25-2005 03:57 PM:

great release, but how do I fix the aspect ratio?!

plz help! big thnx in advance!


sorry for my bad english


Posted by antihero on 04-25-2005 04:36 PM:

out of curiosity, just checked out newzbin and looked at the comments left on this movie, with some shocking results...

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Comment created by Member leigho [privmsg] at 12:23PM -- Saturday April 23 2005 GMT


Do not bother with this release as it uses the original bad upload and they've managed to make it worse. If you want to know more check out vcdquality.com




with the reply...

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Comment created by Editor bratt2k [privmsg] at 03:54PM -- Saturday April 23 2005 GMT

Dont be a sheep and listen to what the vcdquality idiots have to say (they often never watch releases b4 commenting and this is an example, nearly all there comments are aimed at the group and not the release) check it out for youself b4 saying "dont bother with it"....


lol


come forth and flame!!

dammit, i knew you guys didnt know what the fuck you are on about.....think ill just wait till TMD reencode this re-re-reencode and download that


Posted by Anaconda on 04-25-2005 06:33 PM:

how can i fix the aspect ratio?!

big thanks in advance!


Posted by Brisse on 04-25-2005 08:52 PM:

Smile

I must say this thread is long.
I have 3 versions of the movie.

1 Original xvid 2 cd´s with spanish subs.
1 Mof xvid without spanish subs.
1 VO dvdrip no spannish subs.

First of all, they all start the same way, in a speaker room where she overhears a phone talk, dont know if this is the real beginning.

Second, they all have the LMD mark, in the movie, it comes and goes.
The two movies without the subs, are cropped, no doubt, comparared the same frame on all 3.

The strange thing is, taht the ones without subs, still show the LMD mark, in the bottom of the movie, and the one with subs shows the mark the same place.
The mark should be gone on the cropped ones.

People say that its a shame the english subs are cropped out to when they talk spanish, I think its because its a screener for spanish speaking people so there ate no english sub, and no there is no english subs in the so called original.

But the mark thing is strange, I think.

Quality on movie, is 8, cropped or no crop, i judge the sub one,
Sound is 5, no good 48Khz 128
Movie ?


Posted by Dupey on 04-25-2005 08:54 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Dupey
lmao at this rls and grp, but
just to correct ppl saying begining is missing, the xvid, this reencode and any other version is not missing anything (except a few ENG subs are needed in 2 scenes, at least, when another language is spoken and is not a scene where anything is being interpreted , and begining credits) as the first scene is nicole kidman hearing "in a whisper; someone is going to be assasinated" ,etc.
pretty good movie though



seeing how ppl cant read this when i orignally posted it, it got covered by mostly grp bashing and arguing and ppl keep asking the same question . I QUOTE Myself. K?
K...

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Posted by wickedpigme on 04-26-2005 12:03 AM:

To fix the aspect ratio, either re-encode it AGAIN, or use the 16:9 option on ur tv if u've got one, or watch it in some software that can change the ratio (like media player classic). But whatever you do u'll be watching a thin strip across the middle of ur screen

Now, my 2 pence worth...
That is NOT, the TMD logo. Anyone who has seen a TMD re-encode will know that. This site is making itself look VERY foolish by saying that it is the TMD logo.


Posted by Induna on 04-26-2005 08:21 PM:

It's just a few passionate/frustrated members getting miffed about the recent batch of shite quality rls' at the moment and the rest jumping on the flaming bandwagon trying to look clever.

But I still think VCDQ is an informative site to get a decent idea of the quality of a release. If only for the sheer number of users. (somebody is bound to be right

May VCDQ continue.


Posted by jrkey2 on 04-28-2005 03:40 AM:

gots to do more research on this biz audio 6 glaring:video 6 would have like to know what they were saying : movie 5 kept zzzzzzzzzz ing out


Posted by Phreaker47 on 04-29-2005 07:45 PM:

I watched this release on my old pioneer dvd player and the sound and picture were just fine, other than the known issue of the beginning of the movie being just slightly cut off.

Other than that, only complaints were that since the subs were cropped, so were the english translations of some of the foreign languages spoken in the film, but there aren't too many of these and it doesn't ruin the whole thing.


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