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Posted by Wizard1 on 02-03-2003 06:02 PM:

[poster is retarded]

Posted by ekenet on 02-03-2003 06:06 PM:

Fast release as with National Security. Keep up the good work guys!

Posted by Truman on 02-03-2003 06:16 PM:

The pic is good sound a little on the tinny side but i want to see this movie cos the other rls was err short..

Posted by b00bie on 02-03-2003 06:33 PM:

screener or telecine , that is the question

I wish videocd would make up there mind on what to label these , telecine one week and screener the next , it is in fact a telecine as this is not what is distributed by the company to the movie stores , however the quality is ok, sound is average is it is fairly fast, if only the fags at videocd would label things properly, remember there TS release of moonlight mile , they cut about 40 % of the picture off so they could get rid of the subtitles (trust me i had the original and was dumbfounded when i saw what they did) so all in all videocd lies and only releases to get creds and does anything in there power to do so, however nice release if labeled correctly

Posted by intensmile on 02-03-2003 06:33 PM:

This is great! Thanks for the quickness on this one. I will be watching this one soon.

Thanks again VideoCD!!

Posted by Swimj on 02-03-2003 06:36 PM:

keep it up videocd and we wont have a need for telesyncs! =D
8/7/

Posted by Phantasmical on 02-03-2003 06:47 PM:

Wow nice and quick, thanks VideoCD

Posted by |sw1tch| on 02-03-2003 07:04 PM:

glad i didnt grab the TS

Posted by VonRashniek on 02-03-2003 07:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Swimj
keep it up videocd and we wont have a need for telesyncs! =D
8/7/

Agreed

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Posted by Jeomite on 02-03-2003 07:10 PM:

Nice.

Posted by aXs-SVCD on 02-03-2003 07:33 PM:

Just downloaded the Sample, Great Quality and good sound. can't say more! keep bringing great movies in SCR

Keep up the good work VideoCD

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Posted by [dj-mike] on 02-03-2003 07:49 PM:

Very nice

Posted by Mystic Slippers on 02-03-2003 08:08 PM:

Just finished grabbing the whole thing. Looks good. Sounds good. Movie looks like it sucks.

7/8/?

Posted by brr8760 on 02-03-2003 08:21 PM:

Re: screener or telecine , that is the question

quote:
Originally posted by b00bie
I wish videocd would make up there mind on what to label these , telecine one week and screener the next , it is in fact a telecine as this is not what is distributed by the company to the movie stores , however the quality is ok, sound is average is it is fairly fast, if only the fags at videocd would label things properly

B00BIE, seriously, you are the Geek of the Week. What VideoCD did with NATIONAL SECURITY and now DARKNESS FALLS is amazing-- if these early screeners continue, this group goes right to the top. So, here comes January 2003 lame-ass "b00bie" calling them "fags" because he feels a past release or two was mislabeled. Do the scene a favor, boob: LEAVE. WTF is your problem? I like proper labeling as well, but your flame is way out of line here (and the only negative post on this page). Loser. This probably IS a "screener" for theater owners or executives (not movie stores).

VideoCD-- you are killing, guys! I think I'll wait on future Sony dl's.

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Posted by Medievalchimp on 02-03-2003 08:28 PM:

lol wow fast! keep up the awesome work videocd!

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Posted by rappa on 02-03-2003 09:14 PM:

If you guys havent noticed, VideoCD does 1 week later scr's/tc's of sony/columbia pictures..VideoCENTRAL does 1 week later scr's of FOX pictures..so whenever theres a movie rlsed from those company's a scr will be released a week later most likeley..VideoCD pointed that out in there nfo..so thats a good thing cuz bad boys 2 witch ill see in the theatre is comming out from columbia/sony and daredevil is comming out from fox, w00t..anyway back to the release...7/8/7..i liekd the movie, i watched regime's ts bcuz i had nothing else to watch over the weekend and i found it not a bad flick and that rls was prob ONE of the best ts' rlsed in months.

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Posted by OzZyOz on 02-03-2003 09:15 PM:

Just snagged a sample on kazaa but it looks more like the TS I dunno but thanx I will be dling this one on Kazaa tonight! 7/7/?

Posted by dc_man on 02-03-2003 09:15 PM:

Nice work. VideoCD good job as of late staying on top of the game .

7/8/6.5

Posted by /^/-Flikz-\^\ on 02-03-2003 09:20 PM:

Video good, audio bearable... 7/6/5

Posted by THING on 02-03-2003 09:23 PM:

this should be nuked because it has NO ENDING at all. this flick stops at the middle of all the action... someone plz proper these little kids

Posted by rec0de on 02-03-2003 09:29 PM:

quote:
originally posted by : OzZyOz
Just snagged a sample on kazaa but it looks more like the TS I dunno but thanx I will be dling this one on Kazaa tonight! 7/7/?

hahaha thats a joke right hahahaha

nice quality yea sound is a lil tinny as the man up there said but fuck i guess there's them ppl who wank off to dolby 5:1 and there's them who dont, presonally if i can hear what they're saying its fine to me nice rls forget what the bitches say do it ur way

Posted by your name here on 02-03-2003 09:41 PM:

movie sux but hey its a nice rls and 1 CD great job with this one guys keep it up

8/6/6

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Posted by phoR20 on 02-03-2003 10:09 PM:

Re: screener or telecine , that is the question

quote:
Originally posted by b00bie
I wish videocd would make up there mind on what to label these , telecine one week and screener the next , it is in fact a telecine as this is not what is distributed by the company to the movie stores , however the quality is ok, sound is average is it is fairly fast, if only the fags at videocd would label things properly, remember there TS release of moonlight mile , they cut about 40 % of the picture off so they could get rid of the subtitles (trust me i had the original and was dumbfounded when i saw what they did) so all in all videocd lies and only releases to get creds and does anything in there power to do so, however nice release if labeled correctly

what a fucking ass fuck...hey dickface, I'll buy u a ticket for a ride in the space shuttle

Posted by RAM on 02-03-2003 11:08 PM:

ending is there man

the credits role at 1hr 15 mins

so u not seen it !!!

or your copy is corrupt

Posted by Roscoe on 02-03-2003 11:54 PM:

so is it a short movie then?

so is the ending there? i have heard that it is missing scenes and all this other shit....so is it just a short movie or is there scenes cut out to make it fit to 1 disk

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Posted by LiQuIdMuNkY on 02-03-2003 11:54 PM:

Good Video, Sound could be better but still great, I am grabbing this because the sample scared the shit outta me, and i like to be scared

BTW, why do most people insist on saying "I just got the sample" or something along those lines...like are you trying to prove to someone you have access to shit, nobody cares! If you do, good for you...if you dont use Kazaa like that one guy, LMAO!

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Posted by Jc100 on 02-04-2003 01:37 AM:

Ah damn all you folks with the better access to this movie!!!! off with your heads. Havent seen sample but getting now. Ill give honest review tom. Figure id state that since hay many folks post and dont even see anything but the jpg.. cough lamers cough. Ill have this done d/ling by tonight but wont get ot watch. Anyway, will give review on it from actual movie soon.

Posted by b00bie on 02-04-2003 01:37 AM:

To phoR20/brr87560!@3 or whatever your name is .....

Iam sorry you thought my post was negative , i did say however the movie wasnt bad quality and fast, yet when groups mislabel this shit gets nuked and people lower in the scene like you probly dont get to see it , and then you ask people like me why, so i guess iam just letting you know before hand this is why, take a look at Maid in Manhatten for instance , if you can tell me that is a different source then this movie and that this movie is a screener and that is a telecine well then your blind def and dumb, if you wanted to see this and thought to ignore the actual discrepencies with this release i can understand why you both were mad at my post ,however anyone who is part of a major group or has any knowledge of the scene will tell you videocd are lamers only out for the credits , the only respect i have for them is they got lucky and found 2-3 good suppliers, but thats as far as it goes, labeling a decent release( as i said earlier) correctly is a very important aspect of the *scene* as brr39837!P stated and should be followed accordingly, and i the more a group mislables things no matter who they are they will get flamed by non bias/ knowledgable people such as myself , props to getting a release for videocd , other then that your still lame , and for you other 2 your not lame just not as experienced as i, and that will come along , just be patient young padawans

Posted by HoldDaSalad on 02-04-2003 01:49 AM:

Re: Re: screener or telecine , that is the question

quote:
Originally posted by phoR20

what a fucking ass fuck...hey dickface, I'll buy u a ticket for a ride in the space shuttle

Hey Penis breath if i give you a penny will you jump out of an airplane without a parachute? please do mankind a favor and rid us of your lameness! Do you usually take it in the ass or is that just some kind of way to relieve frustration? since your calling people ass fucks i figure thats a way of spreading your insecurities. So please do us all a favor and at least shoot yourself in the hand so you can't type anymore. or hell just finish yourself off since you havn't a care for human life, Your daddy told me a while back that you were found in a trash can i'm just wondering if thats true? Your real mommy never wanted anything to do with you. She thought you were a disgrace to the human race.

Posted by HoldDaSalad on 02-04-2003 01:54 AM:

Re: Re: screener or telecine , that is the question

quote:
Originally posted by phoR20

what a fucking ass fuck...hey dickface, I'll buy u a ticket for a ride in the space shuttle

You know i'm just fucking with you right? its all in good fun. The sample aight, sound isn't the best its about as good as the screener to just married, picture is sub par but i'm not complaining i'll watch it. I downloaded the first version of it and it was terrible, i couldn't watch that for nothing.

Posted by astrostock on 02-04-2003 01:59 AM:

quote:
hey dickface, I'll buy u a ticket for a ride in the space shuttle

Not funny

On the other hand, very impressive VideoCD, looks damn good.

Video = 8
Sound = 8
Movie = 6

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Posted by target on 02-04-2003 02:06 AM:

really? the end is missing?
i was wondering why i am downloading a 776 meg file for a screener....:?
hmmm. well hopefully this will be propered.

Posted by jammi® on 02-04-2003 02:50 AM:

just watched the whole thing movie is oki not the best bit too short nice pic sound done well VideoCD and everything is there only thing that looked funny was the pic size really really widescreen or that could be just my tv i give it 7/8/6.5

Posted by rec0de on 02-04-2003 04:03 AM:

NOTHING IS MISSING!! ok there ya go for that guy who needs to know tiz fine it dont need to be propered its fine the way it is good as it needs to be for a vhs scr but if ur that worried about having the most crisp quality vers wait for the dvd scr and dont bitch other than that buy the damn dvd when it hits the stores and to the guy with the space shuttle comment.....y3r a f00l and about as funny as watching paint dry...spare us the explanation go put ur head in a plastic bag and bury yer head in the sand we need less morons like you.

Posted by phoR20 on 02-04-2003 04:12 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by LiQuIdMuNkY
Good Video, Sound could be better but still great, I am grabbing this because the sample scared the shit outta me, and i like to be scared

BTW, why do most people insist on saying "I just got the sample" or something along those lines...like are you trying to prove to someone you have access to shit, nobody cares! If you do, good for you...if you dont use Kazaa like that one guy, LMAO!

people post that they got the sample so people know what they are rating it against...u stupid fuck.

go back to your winmx and edonkey u fucking lamer

Posted by OzZyOz on 02-04-2003 04:36 AM:

Dude Kazaa is great I just picked this up from SMR its awesome! I got the sample Kazaa has 0-sec shit and if u dun dl from there all ur movie needs are missing! Kazaa rules 10/10 I am dead serious. Now this movie is kew as hell am watching the SMR right now thanx dudez!

Posted by DeathChilde on 02-04-2003 04:50 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by OzZyOz
Dude Kazaa is great I just picked this up from SMR its awesome! I got the sample Kazaa has 0-sec shit and if u dun dl from there all ur movie needs are missing! Kazaa rules 10/10 I am dead serious. Now this movie is kew as hell am watching the SMR right now thanx dudez!

Really SMR huh?? I thought the TMD was waaaay betta....LOL

Posted by astrostock on 02-04-2003 04:51 AM:

LMFAO

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Posted by lo.pro on 02-04-2003 05:04 AM:

ok, first of all, the movie's all there, i just watched it, and the quality is fine, better than a lot of crap i've seen these guys put out. there's certainly no need for a proper.

as for the screener/tc thing, first of all, whether it is a tc has nothing to do with whether it's going to video stores or whatnot, and yes, there are more than one type of screener. something is a tc because of the method used in making the thing.

that being said, often movies fall into more than one catagory. there are tc's that are also screeners, and workprints that are also tc's. personally, i think that if it's got a timer it should be called a workprint, since i can't think of any reason why the timer would be left in the movie unless it were possible that something more was going to be done with it. i'm not positive that there isn't some other reason, i just can't think of what it would be. however, that's probably never going to happen, just becasue wkpts are usually considered somewhere below scr and tc (tho that's not always the case as far as quality goes. and on second thought, maybe it is best that that one be reserved for instances when the movie is obviously missing something (tho that's not always so easy for the group to know. sometimes it's pretty glaring tho... 'the rookie' having no background soundtrack at all was pretty weird, like when they're in a bar talking about the music playing when there isn't any, or when he's on the ball field & you're supposed to be hearing a roaring crowd & it's totally silent lol)).

overall, this was a well-done release, and it *is* nice to see these pictures so early. i'm not really a fan of videocd, as i've been burned too many times by their crap, but i give credit where it's due.

btw, the movie itself is nothing to write home about.

this, however... i'm speechless... words simply fail me:

quote:
Originally posted by OzZyOz
Dude Kazaa is great I just picked this up from SMR its awesome! I got the sample Kazaa has 0-sec shit and if u dun dl from there all ur movie needs are missing! Kazaa rules 10/10 I am dead serious. Now this movie is kew as hell am watching the SMR right now thanx dudez!

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Posted by DownTheSun on 02-04-2003 05:40 AM:

video good
only 1 cd

Posted by Vtec on 02-04-2003 05:56 AM:

VideoCD's last 2 releases have been pretty good/decent compared to what we usually get from them. The only complaint I have that plagues almost all of their releases is the motion, is it me or does the video always seem jerky (sometimes slightly, sometimes heavily). Let me go into detail, the fast motion scenes seem to have like a blurring/ghosting effect (not too bad in this release) and sometimes slow motion or rough edges look like a poorly interlaced dvd even though the source is vhs (you know who jagged lines thingy). Audio also lacks the BOOM found in other screeners. Other than the usual down points, very nice and early release.. I wish someone can get screeners for every other studio this early besides VideoCD and VCDCentral.

Posted by VonRashniek on 02-04-2003 05:57 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by phoR20

what a fucking ass fuck...hey dickface, I'll buy u a ticket for a ride in the space shuttle

I'd like to know where the humor is in that statement. I've seen some assinine posts before, but never one like this. Kid your now in charge of the "I'm a total fuck-up group." congrats you ignorant bastard.

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Posted by THING on 02-04-2003 06:05 AM:

i just want to state something the whole movie is not there.. when u guys get it go to the end and u'll c what im talking about

Posted by Jc100 on 02-04-2003 07:54 AM:

You people are fucking retards. Can we ban these folks who get off kazaa and download the smr or tmd reencodes then complain its missing, sucks, doesnt work, and what not. I got the whole release now. I just sampled it quickly, it looks all there to me as the credits roll... No clue what dude is referring to. Pic doesnt look bad. Tomorrow ill burn and watch on my dvd and give full detailed review. SO far though it looks fine.

Posted by flipp0r on 02-04-2003 09:31 AM:

This aint no TC.
This is def a SCR - Ur gonna see Property of CTHE if u actually watch the movie. and is goes black and white like 3 times
The counter is there. Some SCR's do have counters.

Anyway Video was awesome. a litltle on the darkside but def high quality.
Sound was good too.

This movie scared the shit out of me. It was a little predictable at times but it def. owned.
tx VideoCD

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Posted by Ragin on 02-04-2003 09:32 AM:

I just wish these idiots could learn to lable the release right, it's NOT a screener, it's a god damned WORKPRINT!!!!!!!!!

sheeze...the lables are there for a reason boneheads!!!!

Ragin!

Posted by hpv on 02-04-2003 09:39 AM:

Re: screener or telecine , that is the question

quote:
Originally posted by b00bie
I wish videocd would make up there mind on what to label these , telecine one week and screener the next , it is in fact a telecine as this is not what is distributed by the company to the movie stores

First off, fucktard, you don't seem to know what a telecine is. Second, screeners are NOT exclusively used for sending around to movie stores.

Please, come back with a clue next time. Thanks for playing, though.

Posted by HoldDaSalad on 02-04-2003 11:02 AM:

ha ha ha

quote:
Originally posted by OzZyOz
Dude Kazaa is great I just picked this up from SMR its awesome! I got the sample Kazaa has 0-sec shit and if u dun dl from there all ur movie needs are missing! Kazaa rules 10/10 I am dead serious. Now this movie is kew as hell am watching the SMR right now thanx dudez!

You have got to be joking!!! SMR is pure shit, SMR codec isn't even a real codec dude, its a hacked version of the old divx codec, picture is small as hell, when you go to full screen its pure shit, and i used to use kazaa a while back, you can't get half of the releases on it. and 90% of the shit on kazaa is fake. But hell i bet you allready have LOTR:ROTK??? right............ I'm so glad i don't think your serious.

Posted by wesslan on 02-04-2003 11:32 AM:

Nothing is missing u say??
Well imdb has it on
Runtime: USA:123 min / USA:85 min

Not sure what time is correct but in both cases there is something missing. Don´t think they do credits for 9 min do u??

So i´ll definiately wait for another version to be sure.

Posted by zcar on 02-04-2003 12:43 PM:

Re: screener or telecine , that is the question

quote:
Originally posted by b00bie
I wish videocd would make up there mind on what to label these , telecine one week and screener the next , it is in fact a telecine as this is not what is distributed by the company to the movie stores , however the quality is ok, sound is average is it is fairly fast, if only the fags at videocd would label things properly, remember there TS release of moonlight mile , they cut about 40 % of the picture off so they could get rid of the subtitles (trust me i had the original and was dumbfounded when i saw what they did) so all in all videocd lies and only releases to get creds and does anything in there power to do so, however nice release if labeled correctly

how in the hell is this a telecine
it is timecoded therefore it is obviously taken from a promotional copy
a telecine is taken from a reel of the actual film stock via a telecine machine
isnt it great when people chat bubbles about stuff which they are clearly unable to comprehend

Posted by knweedo on 02-04-2003 01:43 PM:

Nice release, all there too. Yes, the credits end but do you want two CDs or one CD and not all the credits? Props on doing a one CD, I hate when groups put an 85 min movie on two CDs just to have all the credts... who watches credits anyways? Quality is nice, I hate counters but that's beside the point, 8/7/6. Maybe some of VideoCD's stuff isn't great, but this is very good, review something based on it's quality, not wether you like a group or not.

For all you wankers that download off Kazaa, or get TMD/SMR encodes, don't review them here. Those groups fuck them up beyond belief, reviews here reffer to the original VCD encode, not some mangled Divx encode that's half the size and half the bitrate. If you want to watch low-quality shit that's your buisness, these boards are for reviewing VCD Encodes.

Posted by borkafatty on 02-04-2003 03:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by b00bie
To phoR20/brr87560!@3 or whatever your name is .....

Iam sorry you thought my post was negative , i did say however the movie wasnt bad quality and fast, yet when groups mislabel this shit gets nuked and people lower in the scene like you probly dont get to see it , and then you ask people like me why, so i guess iam just letting you know before hand this is why, take a look at Maid in Manhatten for instance , if you can tell me that is a different source then this movie and that this movie is a screener and that is a telecine well then your blind def and dumb, if you wanted to see this and thought to ignore the actual discrepencies with this release i can understand why you both were mad at my post ,however anyone who is part of a major group or has any knowledge of the scene will tell you videocd are lamers only out for the credits , the only respect i have for them is they got lucky and found 2-3 good suppliers, but thats as far as it goes, labeling a decent release( as i said earlier) correctly is a very important aspect of the *scene* as brr39837!P stated and should be followed accordingly, and i the more a group mislables things no matter who they are they will get flamed by non bias/ knowledgable people such as myself , props to getting a release for videocd , other then that your still lame , and for you other 2 your not lame just not as experienced as i, and that will come along , just be patient young padawans

This has to be the longest fucking sentence I have ever seen ROFFL

wITH your so call ellite ness / experiance you should at least know how to type in complete sentences.
But as you stated we are all to young and you are the great scene knowledge base.
I laugh at all you so call ellite you come here and preach your knowledge of the scene and your stature on various boards...no one cares. A true scener does not talk of his or her elliteness.

I bet half of you here would NOT! know a scene if it was right in front of you. Oh wait you are the Kaza ellite thats it...as always thanks for a great laugh BfAtZ

seen the flick good job m8's

Posted by lo.pro on 02-04-2003 05:21 PM:

Re: Re: screener or telecine , that is the question

hey, borka! :D

quote:
Originally posted by zcar
how in the hell is this a telecine
it is timecoded therefore it is obviously taken from a promotional copy
a telecine is taken from a reel of the actual film stock via a telecine machine
isnt it great when people chat bubbles about stuff which they are clearly unable to comprehend

ouch, it must be hard to walk (not to mention eat) with your foot stuck in your mouth like that.

in this application, the timecode format most often used is SMPTE VITC format (if it weren't VITC, you wouldn't be able to see the timecode in freeze frame or at lowered playback rates on the original tape). SMPTE codes are most often streamed onto the video by the TC machine itself, as the tape is being produced from film. this, in fact, is the most common way for them to be generated, all the later copies just being dupes of the original SMPTE (or, it can be put there at any one of a number of later stages of duplication, by various devices -- hell, i've got an svhs player that can generate an SMPTE tone -- however, generally, VITC timecodes can not be added to an existing tape, as can LTC formats, because the timecode is part of the video stream, as opposed to being streamed to one of the audio tracks; therefore, it must be created at the time of the orignal telecining, or else while duping to another tape).

in any case, my point is, the TC machine can easily produce an SMPTE stream, and this is in fact the most logical time for one to be produced, since this is when the framerate etc is being adjusted, and will set a standard against which future dubs and edits can be compared (in the US, the NTSC 30fps "drop code" format is most often used, when dealing with a feature-length film).

it's not a big deal when ppl don't know what they're talking about, but it's really lame when some smartass jumps in trying to put other people down by spouting shit about which he knows nothing. next time, do your homework before you try to make yourself feel smarter by putting others down, asshole.

Posted by OzZyOz on 02-04-2003 05:30 PM:

Yes An Matrix 2 and The Third I lubs my kazaa. /me loves maknig people laugh!

Posted by zcar on 02-04-2003 05:34 PM:

hmmm
i think you will find im fully conversent with using a DV-8
or i wouldnt have the position in the scene that i have

Posted by backoff on 02-04-2003 05:48 PM:

Its good being sick

I have been sick since Friday (today is Tues.) so I sit home, watch TV and download movies. Well since nobody who downloads is home then, I get free reign over xdcc bots, I just got this in 1hr 20mins with NO QUEUES!!!! woot woot. I would say 7/7/? (have watched about 1/4 and think it is weird, but cool)

Posted by lo.pro on 02-04-2003 06:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by zcar
hmmm
i think you will find im fully conversent with using a DV-8
or i wouldnt have the position in the scene that i have

oh, man, you just insist on shoving that leg further and further down your throat, don't you?

when you did your "ask jeeves" query for "what is the name of a telecine machine", you should have specified that you meant one *other* than one for home movies :p... i'll bet you've really managed to achieve a l33t scene position transferring all those hollywood films that are shot on super-8 film :D

or oh, wait, i'm sorry... did you mean this? http://www.dv-8.com/

Posted by knweedo on 02-04-2003 06:13 PM:

b00bie it is obvious you don't have the superior intelligence you claim. People that really are good at something, or really do know how to do something don't go around telling people they are the best, and how smart they are. If you really are so 1337 just downlad movies and rate them, none of this "I'm better than you and that's why I have this movie and you'll never get it!" shit. I personally don't really care if this is a screener or not, it's damn nice quality, and it looks like a screener to me. I don't see why a group would lie about wether it's a screener or a telecine.

Posted by blacks on 02-04-2003 06:15 PM:

As much as i hate to read through the entire piece of technical crap, i am fairly sure that lo.pro has a fine knowledge of the technical aspects of such media as he has demostrated before. So my advice to you(zcar) would be to keep quiet and dont flaunt your scene position.
For all you know, lo.pro might be someone more "influential"(?) than you are.

So please, for our sakes(yes, most of us cannot take those long essay replies from lo.pro), and yours, just keep quiet.

Have a nice day fellas.

Posted by lo.pro on 02-04-2003 06:24 PM:

hehe pfft i don't have any influence over anything, that's for sure :D

on the other hand, i don't go around trying to justify my putting ppl down by talking about how my mastery of the 8mm film format makes me scene-mastah :p

but you're not the first to note i'm a bit long-winded, blacks, and i'm sure you won't be the last... sorry bout that ;)

Posted by KPJake on 02-04-2003 07:17 PM:

This release from VideoCD is great. The sound, video, and quality stay consistent throughout the movie. I accidently pressed 8 for how i liked the movie, and wanted to do a 6 because it wasn't the best movie, but good. I gave a 7 for video because it is clean and almost exactly like having the original videotape it came from. The sound was also great, and I gave it a 7 as well. Thank you for the quick & good release VideoCD

Posted by b00bie on 02-04-2003 10:42 PM:

my post achieved what i had wished

lo.pro is very intelligent or a very good actor, speculating , albiet with good reason is a far cry from actual knowledge and maybe experience in the field , he has further assured me that iam correct. Zcar calling me a fucktard was only funny ,yet name calling doesnt prove anything , i asked why was maid and manhatten and darkness falls the same source yet labled differently (i could give many more examples but this is the most recent) when you can anwser this qeustion with "i dont know" or "one is mislabled" then you will rise above your fucktard comment and earn some respect on this post, until you anwser thatquestion please save us all from your uneducated posts ....as far as Knweedo post in regards to mine.
"I'm better than you and that's why I have this movie and you'll never get it!" shit. I personally don't really care if this is a screener or not, it's damn nice quality, and it looks like a screener to me. I don't see why a group would lie about wether it's a screener or a telecine.
I never said any of you wont get it for the fact that you dont have the capabilities , but merely for the fact if things are labled wrong they get nuked and dont make there way down, if you dont care whether or not its a scr/tc then thats fine i hope you cna get it and enjoy the movie, as far as why a group would lie about something like that, a vhs scr is more tradable then a a telecine mind you not a huge difference, but if you were going to try to sell gold or silver and thought you could pass it off as either which would you do ?<--- (shit that was a good analagy) anyways videocd still lame, yet fast release , borkafatty how about sparking a convo or bringing up a new topic, rather then complaining about people who do, or if your worried about my puncuation you could just rewrite my forums and post them later so people can read something interesting

Posted by deathw on 02-04-2003 11:59 PM:

nice, keep up the good work ;]

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Posted by Mr_Grinch on 02-05-2003 01:23 AM:

howdy folks.

Back from my mini-holiday. Quality of this is nice. Person who said it's a ts... look again. If this is a ts it's one of the prettiest ts's I've seen! Anyway, I loved the film but I'm a horror junkie, my friends found it pretty much average. Quality of this is very watchable, wasn't a scene in it where I had to strain to see what was going on.

Oh and to the guy getting SMR releases... or TMD... or whatever. They're pure shit. They don't give a good indication of the true quality, after all it isn't actually the VCD release.

Oh and if anyones noticed that I don't vote on here much it's because I only like to give comments on samples... I'd only vote on the FULL release and cos it normally takes me so long to get it I don't bother

Posted by johnnygetz on 02-05-2003 03:08 AM:

thankz alot dude

Posted by lo.pro on 02-05-2003 09:19 AM:

Re: my post achieved what i had wished

quote:
Originally posted by b00bie
lo.pro is very intelligent or a very good actor

can't i be both? :*(

but yeah, i wasn't actually disagreeing with you b00bie; like you say, if they label one one way and another just like it another way, it's inconsistant. but it's also true that whether something is a tc or screener, or the rules for how a tc should be handled by the scene, are themselves vague and inconsistant. really, a good TC can be far superior to a normal, blockbuster-type screener; but nevertheless, a screener can follow a tc, which in that case wouldn't make sense. so if a group has a tc that looks excellent, as good or better than a screener, they'll naturally label it a screener, because of the 'heirarchy of quality" that the scene assumes. i've maintained for some time now that we need a rethinking of that whole heirarchy, since we now have dvdscreeners, svcd ts's, etc etc (tho i don't claim to know exactly how it should be reworked to solve this type of problem).

that's why i don't really agree with you when you said something to the effect that the only proper answer to 'why are the two different' is either "i don't know" or "one is mislabelled". i.e., if a flick falls into more than one category, and there aren't any scene standards to dictate which a release should be labelled as, then it's hard to blame the group for labelling it one thing one time, and another, another. i mean, if the release is a telecine screener (and yes, such a thing does exist), then it's not really 'mislabelled' whichever you call it.

*shrug* seems that way to me, anyway.

Posted by knweedo on 02-05-2003 12:34 PM:

Your post achieved proving that you think you are superior than everyone else, and openly say so. It also proved that you don't know where the frikin period is on your keyboard. Tell me, *why* do you automatically assume that you are superior to everyone?

As for the debate of this being a TC/Scr, in the so-called scene, stuff isn't labled so much for actual source as it is for quality now. Groups call a crappy TS a Cam, and a good Cam at TS. If something is passable as a screener when it's a TS, then why not call it one? Really there's no way to tell.

Posted by Phantasmical on 02-05-2003 07:19 PM:

I just got done watching this, and for all the post debating what it is, its a screener theres a few black and white bits with property of messages during it. The video isnt too bad a little dark in parts but its watchable, as for the movie itself, I give it 2 out of 10 it fucking sucked.

Posted by MinisterSiniste on 02-06-2003 05:19 AM:

OK, so this was an OK screener. The colors are a little washed (looks like a BBC film or something) but that is normal for the screeners. As for the movie, they have a creepy kid the bad woman is after, like in the ring, they can't get out of the light, like in PItch Black, they are obsessed with drawing their nightmare image, like in Mothman Prophecies and Dragonfly, The bad guy looks like the killer in Scream, and was burned for killing little kids and is back to terrify the children (Yes that is Nightmare on Elm Street).
I was unable to find anything original in this movie. I thought at least special effects might make up for it. No. The bad girl just flies around in her Scream outfit, and I swear to God David Copperfield does a more convincing fly through the air on stage in person than they do in this movie.
I'd say 6.5/6.5/2
Mr Sin

Posted by Jc100 on 02-06-2003 05:56 AM:

Ok copy of movie. A few scenes where motion appears odd and like trailing.. IE fucked up framte rate. ALso, 3 40 sec- 1 min areas where property of shows, and movie goes B&W. Rather annoying since on is in a vital scene. Aside from that, movie itself is ok. Nothing to write home about. Id say 6/6/4, though i might be a little bit dvdscr spoiled. Tops on video is 7 if i wanted ot be lenient.

Posted by Mak Man on 02-06-2003 05:22 PM:

This was a decent looking release, can't complain for watching a movie free either.

My only beef with VideoCD is, why don't you update your version of winrar? Your release is 55 rar files. When I compressed the bin/cue with the most current version of winrar I only had 46 rar files. Go figure.

Other then that, well done VideoCD. Finally a movie that should fit on 1 disc isn't spanned onto 2.

Thx.

Mak.

Posted by flipp0r on 02-06-2003 05:46 PM:

most groups don't compress the rar's. They just use normal compression rather than fast, or best.

thats why if u looked at the unpacked size its like
844mb and the compressed size is also 844mb
rather than 798mb compressed

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Posted by Mak Man on 02-06-2003 05:55 PM:

Ummm....I used normal compression too. Are you sure they aren't using fast?

Mak.

Posted by flipp0r on 02-07-2003 12:25 AM:

usually they dont use any compression.
other than just splitting up the archive into
15mb files.

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Posted by lo.pro on 02-07-2003 01:29 AM:

yeah, normally video groups use "store". this comes from the mistaken belief that you can't really compress movies (while it's true that you can't compress an mpeg all that much, you *can* compress a bin file significantly).

maybe another reason theirs is bigger is because they added a recovery record and you didn't. recovery records are a good thing. i have one every morning with my breakfast.

Posted by ergibson83 on 02-07-2003 09:26 AM:

Can whole movie Truly fit on 1 Cd???

Why is it that I have the videoCD screener and it is 766mb? I thought the average cd can only hold 700mb. Can someone please explain to me (I'm kinda lost)?

ergibson83

:: next time do a search

Posted by phoR20 on 02-07-2003 11:30 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by OzZyOz
Just snagged a sample on kazaa but it looks more like the TS I dunno but thanx I will be dling this one on Kazaa tonight! 7/7/?

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kazaa...junkaa.. very surprised to hear of a decent rls is on that garbage....i put my $ on it that its a fake....a AVI file that dont do nothin or infects yer dumbass-

Posted by cx on 02-07-2003 11:45 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by lo.pro
recovery records are a good thing. i have one every morning with my breakfast.

lol

I need one of those

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Posted by Gorax on 02-07-2003 01:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by OzZyOz
Dude Kazaa is great I just picked this up from SMR its awesome! I got the sample Kazaa has 0-sec shit and if u dun dl from there all ur movie needs are missing! Kazaa rules 10/10 I am dead serious. Now this movie is kew as hell am watching the SMR right now thanx dudez!

Finally someone that really knows what he's talking about! SMR is the way to go, i already have a huge collection of SMR reencodes (got them via Kaazaa/Edonkey of course). I usually convert them to DVD-R so i can watch them on TV and have better video quality. And I sincerely hope to see all the big groups switching to SMR in future as well... quality is the only thing that matters.

Posted by lo.pro on 02-07-2003 07:08 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Gorax

Finally someone that really knows what he's talking about! SMR is the way to go, i already have a huge collection of SMR reencodes (got them via Kaazaa/Edonkey of course). I usually convert them to DVD-R so i can watch them on TV and have better video quality. And I sincerely hope to see all the big groups switching to SMR in future as well... quality is the only thing that matters.

sing it, brudda!

Posted by scottymac on 02-08-2003 02:33 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Gorax

Finally someone that really knows what he's talking about! SMR is the way to go, i already have a huge collection of SMR reencodes (got them via Kaazaa/Edonkey of course). I usually convert them to DVD-R so i can watch them on TV and have better video quality. And I sincerely hope to see all the big groups switching to SMR in future as well... quality is the only thing that matters.

I love it! First time I've ever seen "SMR reencodes" and "quality" mentioned in the same post.

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Posted by flashman on 02-08-2003 02:39 PM:

Nice job,execellent video and good audio,a dark movie of course though 9/8/8.

Posted by AntiChrist on 02-08-2003 03:19 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Gorax

Finally someone that really knows what he's talking about! SMR is the way to go, i already have a huge collection of SMR reencodes (got them via Kaazaa/Edonkey of course). I usually convert them to DVD-R so i can watch them on TV and have better video quality. And I sincerely hope to see all the big groups switching to SMR in future as well... quality is the only thing that matters.

HAAHHAahahaha fucking p2p Lamer

this has got to be the ffunniest shit ive ever seen on this lame forum ahahahahahahahahahaha

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Posted by call2die4 on 02-09-2003 05:25 PM:

Darkness Falls

well waited a little longer for a better release
and this one was able to watch
5-6-7
still quite blocky in dark scenes
but what can you expect on one cd
Thanks

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