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oh yes!

finally! looks really cool also!

ughhh Fuckin Fags

theres no chance in hell this is a screener, just from the quality it blows, damn they just added a ticker how gay....Nuke.....

Well i just saw this sample, and in my opinion its the best sample out there, there is room for a proper though..

The boarders on the top and bottom (that make it widescreen) are WAY OFF, it appears double (could be this way if they didn't set their source aspect ratio..

the sound quality apperas fine, and the video isn't 100% but its decent , (not GREAT though considering its a screener)


hopefully videocd will learn how to encode soon, they get stuff fast, if they learn what they are doing maybe we can see some good releases from them

lol screener? VideoCD might beable to pass it off to their own members as a screener, but give me a break..

oh yeah and learn what a aspect ratio is before u release more junk

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quality is just fine.

Nope Not A Sceener I have the same thing on a pdvd from asia they edited the movie added the timer and property marks. Nice try but I think it deservs a Nuke...

WTF Is Your Problem???

Swim J... Have You Seen This Release... Probably Not... So STFU and Let Others Comment On It... People Who Have Actually Seen The Release... What U'r Judging From The JPG's?... Great Quality... Not Mislabled Or Any Shit Like That!!! By Far The Best Release... Thanks VideoCD 7.6/8/7

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theres no chance in hell this is a screener, just from the quality it blows, damn they just added a ticker how gay....Nuke.....

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Rappa I see alot of your post, and you sound stupid. Seems as if you know nothing about shit. Its not a fucking screener its a ts pdvd from asia u stupid fuck and can be found for sale on some sites. VideoCd is fucking gay for acting as if it was a real screener. And it needs to be nuked every where.

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theres no chance in hell this is a screener, just from the quality it blows, damn they just added a ticker how gay....Nuke.....

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its just a poorly encode of a screener..stfu all of you forever speaking is bad for your health

i've heard its a workprint....

HEH its funny that videocd has duped its own rls heh first the xxx internal rls then the proper then the screener heh i like em but dupe heh

XXX.SCREENER-VideoCD nuked, reason = bad workprint

Im coooooooooooooooool.

nuked mislabled= bad workprint

Ehhh

dled the sample and i have to say that it is better then any version out so far But its still poop if u really wanna see the movie wait for a better version this one is watchable though props for rlsing something watchable

I don't know why you morons are complaining, it's a nice release and is 100 times better than the last ones. And it's free so why complain. Who cares what the hell it is, if the film comes in nice and it does.

Please tell me why .....
Not a very good release

5/5/8

this movie is pratically unwatchable.......way over cropped and pixialted

Best release so far... Sound is better than the other releases, pic a bit blocky. Props to VideoCD but I hope we get a FS screener soon.

6/7/8.

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HAHAHAH how can u add a timer...fucking retard..its a screener definetly and the best rls out..props to videocd..i saw this in a theatre and couldnt wait for a good copy to come out...also

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check it out for the real ss...mine r the 1 w/ the green writing..this other admins is the ugly yellow ones..u tell me witch r nicer.

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i guess its mislabeld but its still the best rls out there if it aint nuked on ur sites download it its a good movie and quality aint bad really watchable....not sure if its a workprint tho -=D

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C'mon! These guys risk a lot of shit and spend a lot of time doing stuff for us, just so we can watch this movie. Even if its a poorly encoded version of the movie, we should give them props for trying (as long as they'renot credit whores :P )

IMHO, it's not a workprint

umm its nuked for not being a scr but its from the same source as tcf's mr.deeds and a few others they rlsed...like mike..its the same screener as that but some people dont think its a scr so plz stfu if u dont know.

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Just watched the Sample, the video quality is very bad for a screener, I have seen many telesyncs and even some cams with better video quality than this. Very blurry, and becomes blocky in fast action parts, I personally think this is not watchable and will not be downloading it. It gets a 3/7/? from me.

RaPpA, fyi genius... you CAN add a frame counter and/or timer to pretty much any video format.

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good rls, just mislabeled so if its not nuked on ur site grab it

LoL

sorry Phucker didnt mean to just didnt wanna get rapped on for say "uckfha"

ok, fuck that there is a timer or promotion shit...no one cares...it happens, and its free. lets review the release itself...sound, good, like a 7, video, not screener worthy at all, like a 5, movie itself is ok, give it a 7 as well. best version of what is available no doubt, screener worthy ? nah, for the good sound, should be telecine labeled, the pic is just not good...been nuked on already 4 sites of mine, and the number is growing, mainly cause of the bad picture quality and the timer...like i said the timer doesnt bother me, i have seen worse screeners, but the picture is definitely not the best, hopefully they will proper this Avenging Angelo style, and find a real screener tape...hehe or maybe a real encoder, oh well, for the folks who want to save the 9 bucks on an ok film, this is the release you get, the other ones were terrible...

Ok, this is totally OT and not aimed at this release/group specifically, rather its a generalisation.

In all honesty i don't understand how/why they mislabel in the first place. I mean sure, there are times when the group will have no idea what it is themselfs and make a judgement call and label to the standard of quality it is. But many times i see a release mislabeled, generally TC or WP being mislabled as SCR or CAM being called TS. What does it achieve to mislabel, nothing. Half the population will pick up on it and know its mislabeled, so the only thing it does is lowers group respect.

IMO, anything that the nukers see as blatently mislabeled(with no explanation) should be nuked regardless. Don't let it through just because the quality is good or whateva, if it gets properly nuked at the top, all the group has to do is relabel and FXP it again. (obviously that is a littke more work than it would seem, but then maybe they'd get the idea and not knowingly do it)

Well enough rablings, im sure 99% of the boards don't give a rats ass about mislabeled release, inproperly named propers or internals that are just labled internal so they don't get nuked for dupe/bad quality etc but the increase in all of the above lately shits me so bleh.

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Preach on ^Om3n

Actually im in the middle of watching it now..it is a scr cuz it says property of bla bla bla...but ALSO THEY didnt put in there NFO that it goes black/white during wen it says property of bla bla bla..Just thought some of u might wanna know cuz ppl complained during THCiso's rls of spiderman....And OM3N, who in the world WOULD ADD A TIME Counter...Just plane stupid and why would they waste time doing it,

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I think certain movies bring out the dregs in this forum, and even some of our favorite contributors have sunk to the occasion. Only RAPPA, bts and Wowsa made any sense. This is a screener, obviously, whatever your feelings about the encoding work.

But I must consider both arguments. Hmmm.

A) VideoCD got ahold of a screener, or
B) VideoCD decided to re-encode its own work, laborously add a counter to the rip, magically improve the picture and sound quality, and release it FALSELY to the public, thereby trashing their reps beyond repair.... all because.... um what was their reason again??

That said, re-encoders are welcome to get rid of that f**king counter and replace it with a black bar. It's centered, and it's showtime-accurate, both of which are more distracting than the usual counters.

Damn, VideoCD-- first Avenging Angelo and now this. Who'd have thunk it? MANY THANKS from the corner of the room.

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RaPpA, i agree it would be stupid. Point was that you insulted somebody else for thinking it was not a screener and used the argument that the counter would not be there if it wasn't.

I'll stop waisting everybody's time with my OT posts now.

RaPpA's jpgs make this release look very nice. Can only hope that the motion blur and pixelation in the posted jpg' don't reflact how the release looks whilst playing

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Whoa I was scared to D/L this after the 6.0 reviews and all these post. Finally got my hands on the sample and this thing rocks. Definetely a screener and even a decent encode. Without the bar would be nice but with it I don't mind. Getting this now and should be watching it in an hour. Man VideoCD rock on guys. I hope TCF gets their hands on this screener and can find a way to remove the bar and the black&white logo. But for now I can deal with both those issues for a GOOD release of xXx. Sorry to sound so excited but I have been waiting for a watchable version of this movie. Only had to wait 2 weeks past release for a decent screener. Keep it up guys.

i jsut got finished watching it....Ok..for my reviews..The source is a screener tape..but the source is direct from the reel so its more of telecine quality...A better encode is wats needed...it was a lil pixelated but idk my mom was fucking w/ the settings cuz i bought a bourne identity silver and it was a pos so she played w/ the settings so then i had to play w. them and w/ contrast at 0, the pixels r very low...so overral its the BEST release out and should be the only 1 out until a REAL screener or a dvdrip.

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Nice review rappa. That sounds much more informative then the semi-flame post that were going around. Quality is pretty decent. Doesn't look too pixelated on my tv. I wont be downloading another release unless its a proper/reencode or a TCF screener.

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Whoa I was scared to D/L this after the 6.0 reviews and all these post. Finally got my hands on the sample and this thing rocks. Definetely a screener and even a decent encode. Without the bar would be nice but with it I don't mind. Getting this now and should be watching it in an hour. Man VideoCD rock on guys. I hope TCF gets their hands on this screener and can find a way to remove the bar and the black&white logo. But for now I can deal with both those issues for a GOOD release of xXx. Sorry to sound so excited but I have been waiting for a watchable version of this movie. Only had to wait 2 weeks past release for a decent screener. Keep it up guys.

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How can some people claim it's a TS when there's a counter?...Correct me if I'm wrong, but the odds of this being a shitty quality Screener was much higher...AND since it has copyright text the issue is over.

Propers are 'supposed' to only be let through if the previous release had some sort of technical flaw. You cannot release a proper on the basis of bitrates/settings, subs, counter/no counter, because its higher quality etc. If it gets through, then the nukers are not doing there job properly.

At least this is how i understand it to be after reading the scene guidlines.

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exactly Philly,

is free just not good enough?

I think nuking is dumb unless it is just unwatchable, this rls is the best one out there and if you don't like it, don't get it and even if its not the best encoding, for their effort to get this out FOR US, we should be givin them respect


Just rate this rls accordingly, that's what the site is for, but don't degrade the rls or its rlser

Definetely the best out there. Watched it last night and completely watchable with good video and sound. Timer didn't even bug me after a few minutes and the black and white thing wasn't a serious issue. I could definetely see myself watching this release again.

Unless they come out with a screener with no property marks and no timer or a dvdrip this is going to stay on top.

VideoCD thanks for coming through. Good things from you and FTF lately.

Quality and other things...

This is a much better copy than any of the others. I would give this a 7/7 where the others were 5/5 at best. The movie is pretty stupid, but it had good action scenes, so I give it a 6.

Far as the question, "To nuke, or not to nuke?" I think this is a question that really can not be answered one way or the other. It is all up to "point-of-view". Sometimes, it seems that a release will get nuked for mislabelling when it is really a close call. This means they felt the quality was such shit that they wanted to nuke it and found a reason. or maybe they just nuke anything from the group because they don't like them. Then there's the technical questions...is there flaws? are there parts missing? is there a counter? or God Forbid...an almost invisible red line that comes across every 5-10 minutes that completely ruins the show for us ?

Here's my 2 cents...and it is ALL opinion as I don't know a single person in the scene anywhere...at least I don't think I do

IMHO...the underlying reason a release is nuked is so people don't waste their bandwidth downloading a shit release. If there are problems in the nfo/cue files, I think people should figure out how to fix them without the release being nuked. If the release is mislabelled, it needs to be nuked by everyone and here's why...let's say they label it a scr and it is really a wp. Then while the quality may be good, it may be missing parts from the actual release movie. Whereas the screener won't be missing anything, or at least it shouldn't be. Also, and I believe this should be in the commandments of every groups nuking policy...ANY RELEASE THAT IS MISSING MORE THAN 1 MINUTE OF THE MOVIE SHOULD BE NUKED. How many of us have sat down to watch a movie only to discover later that 5, 10 or sometimes up to 15 minutes of the show are missing. And I don't give a rat's ass about the credits...I mean inside the movie itself.

So if it turns out this is not a screener, then it should be nuked...not because it is "unwatchable" but because it is misleading.

Crazy

are you guys kiding me i dont make many post but i have to when i see shit like this.First easy to add timer 2)this is no screener 3)learn what the fuck a aspect ratio is Video CD.Now there lots of room for a great proper of this but ill wait for a REAL SCR.

So Says THE MYYZTIKAL ONE

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I don't know why you morons are complaining, it's a nice release and is 100 times better than the last ones. And it's free so why complain. Who cares what the hell it is, if the film comes in nice and it does

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Movie sucked ass, so did the lame ass line
"The things i gotta do for my country when he's about to fug that girl" but release was watchable i guess.

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My time looking for this isn't free, my time spent getting it ins't free, my wasted badwidth that coulda went to playing cs isn't free, maybe for you it is, but for people with social lives it's not.

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C'mon! These guys risk a lot of shit and spend a lot of time doing stuff for us, just so we can watch this movie. Even if its a poorly encoded version of the movie, we should give them props for trying (as long as they'renot credit whores :P )

IMHO, it's not a workprint

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nobody puts a gun to there heads to do this job!!

and in my opinion if its so much risk and cost them so much money, then why release junk?

this is junk

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gay group, not a bad release?

I'll say straight out first off, that I haven't watched this entire release, just the sample. I haven't bothered to download because I'm waiting for a good screener release.

For everyone who says "STFU, and don't download it if the quality is shite", use your heads. Releases like this is one of the major downfalls of the scene (and as i said earlier, I'm judging based on the consensus that this release is NOT a screener, and the quality is nowhere near what screener releases are). Groups like this intentionally mislabel a better quality TS as a screener because they're preying on the stupidity of the average user, which apparently alot of the people who post here are. They lie about their release so that they can get their group's name up in the ranks as being the first group to release a xXx screener. If it weren't for groups like this, we wouldn't need propers, and 14 releases of every movie that waste everyone's bandwidth and time. IMHO, in my internet utopia there is just a telesync, screener, then dvd-rip. Three releases, stop wasting everyone's time.

Well, congratulations, everyone's talking about you guys, it's just too bad that everyone's pissed off that you care more about popularity than bringing quality and truth to the scene. Anyone who defends this release needs to give their head a shake. The quality may be slightly better than previous releases, but I refuse to give props or respect to a group that lies to 'better' themselves.

-MrB

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How can some people claim it's a TS when there's a counter?...Correct me if I'm wrong, but the odds of this being a shitty quality Screener was much higher...AND since it has copyright text the issue is over.

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You're starting to sound like I_Drink_24_7. If you dont want it, dont get it and shut up. Comment on the quality, not if you think it's junk, assuming you've actually watched it. It's a decent release, mislabled, but decent.

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what are you talking about? wtf is i drink 247 mean? this some foreign language? or you you drink so much you have no idea what you are saying?

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this is a bad release and all people on top of the scene know it!

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I'll say straight out first off, that I haven't watched this entire release, just the sample. I haven't bothered to download because I'm waiting for a good screener release.

For everyone who says "STFU, and don't download it if the quality is shite", use your heads. Releases like this is one of the major downfalls of the scene (and as i said earlier, I'm judging based on the consensus that this release is NOT a screener, and the quality is nowhere near what screener releases are). Groups like this intentionally mislabel a better quality TS as a screener because they're preying on the stupidity of the average user, which apparently alot of the people who post here are. They lie about their release so that they can get their group's name up in the ranks as being the first group to release a xXx screener. If it weren't for groups like this, we wouldn't need propers, and 14 releases of every movie that waste everyone's bandwidth and time. IMHO, in my internet utopia there is just a telesync, screener, then dvd-rip. Three releases, stop wasting everyone's time.

Well, congratulations, everyone's talking about you guys, it's just too bad that everyone's pissed off that you care more about popularity than bringing quality and truth to the scene. Anyone who defends this release needs to give their head a shake. The quality may be slightly better than previous releases, but I refuse to give props or respect to a group that lies to 'better' themselves.

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umm its nuked for not being a scr but its from the same source as tcf's mr.deeds and a few others they rlsed...like mike..

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gay rip of a screener then

If you truly have to wonder whether or not a release is a screener or a TC/TS or whatnot, then it shouldn't have been released. If this is a screener, then it should be nuked for being a poor rip. Yet another downfall of the scene, they should've taken an extra day to make a good rip instead of rushing. Don't pretend this isn't just going to be propered any day now.

-MrB

hey can anyone email me the .cue files for part 1 and part 2 of this movie.... please.....i really need it....thanks in advance
-josh


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I have been a member of this forum for a while. I stopped posting after a bit do to bashing \ bickering... The fact of this release haveing a counter. b\w and or property signs are not a proven indication as to if this is a REAL Screener or not. I have released movies in the past and know a bit. I do know for fact you can add All of those settings plus more. If it were maybe a UTI quality cam i would see it being able to be misslabeld the stuart little 2 cam looked better. The aspect ratio is far off. IMO I do not believe this is a legi screener. If it is props to VideoCD on the fixing the tape it must of been garbled first. Oh well a DVD Rip is gonna be out eventually lets all just drop this issue.

FIXING IT

say i wanted to make it better
what can i do
run it tho tmpeg or somtine?

in order to make this worth my 2 cds
anyone have any suggestions on a new aspect ratio and a
new sound settings
thx
pz

This release is pretty good, Sound is better than the other releases and picture too, only problem is the timer, i can put up with it but it would be better if it was a black bar, maybe they can release it again like that, nice job though

Sound=7 Video=7 ( maybe could of been 8 if it wasent 4 the timer) Movie=10 (wicked movie)

I dont think this is a screener.

Whatever, ill wait for the SVCD

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say i wanted to make it better
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run it tho tmpeg or somtine?

in order to make this worth my 2 cds
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hahha

ok man i wont

so is this worth my time
anyoen?

nice rls

but the encoding is poor. i will crop the movie to remove the timer. i'm not bitchy. Nice Job!

*But the color goes into Black/White when the "Property Of" comes on, then goes to back into color when teh "Property Of" goes off.

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Propers are 'supposed' to only be let through if the previous release had some sort of technical flaw. You cannot release a proper on the basis of bitrates/settings, subs, counter/no counter, because its higher quality etc. If it gets through, then the nukers are not doing there job properly.

At least this is how i understand it to be after reading the scene guidlines.

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Im getting this 2day and I will tell you all - how it is, look out for this space

I just got finished watching this version.

The quality is damn good and so's the audio.

If you want to see this movie, this is the copy to get.

This is definatly a screener and definatly the best release, the audio is great and picture too, only minor problem is the counter clock, but many screeners have them but this is the best release i think were gonna have for a long time until a dvd screener or dvd rip, so for those who are not sure of what to get, u should get this one.

Seems to me that when a release is made that is not up to standard (from what i read a bad Aspect ratio/Cropping) it should be nuked in order to let other groups have a crack at it.

In a Perfect world there would be only ONE release.. The first (GOOD!) release .. the rest should be nuked.. so people don't download a 2 disc from different releasegroups

They should use the Divx scene as an example.. there rulez where made and the same rulez should count for VCD/SVCD

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are you guys kiding me i dont make many post but i have to when i see shit like this.First easy to add timer 2)this is no screener 3)learn what the fuck a aspect ratio is Video CD.Now there lots of room for a great proper of this but ill wait for a REAL SCR.

So Says THE MYYZTIKAL ONE

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finaly someone who knows wtf he's talking about, all these other lamers kissing ass saying oohh eee ahhh a free movie, this looks amazing, are retards!


i agree with you

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I second that notion Azrael. Anyway, this rls was just fine to watch. Better than the previous. If you wanna see this film this will definitely suffice. Pic is fine, audio is fine. Just d/l , sit back, watch and stfu. If you wanna complain some more, get your own hands on the real screener and please, for the love of God, encode it and make it soooooooo much better than the groups releasing shit for all us peons right now.

Thanks VideoCD. I'm quite sure I said this in another thread as well, but some of us do appreciate your work. We're not here to nitpick and say what's good and bad. Sure there are some groups that do do a better job than others, but that's not what I am here for at least. I am definitely not pro this group or anti that group. I just like to sit back, watch movies for free and keep my goddam mouth shut whether the movie sucked or if the quality sucked. I will post on the orum to let others know what's the deal with the quality, but that's where I hope the line begins to be drawn on this forum. I am tired of reading 8,000,000 posts on a topic only to fine 3 of them tell me about the quality of the release. But anyway, just starting to babble on here. Thanks again guys.

Firt off I dont care if this is not a true screener . The quality is the best so far ( I have d/l'ed two other versions) . I rate this one a 6/7/4 didnt like the movie

Wow. Just looked at Rappa's screenshots -
http://inimical5.bsdlink.net/comparison.jpg

Those ones on the site really do the release bad. So many people looked at the jpg's and judged. How can you hate this release? So fucking what if it might not be a screener. Its 10 times better than the other releases...

piss poor, maybe it's my TV out, or the dvd player but this seems worse than the much earlier release's. Shit film as well or maybe that's just 'cos I find Vin Diesel about as appealing as Van Damme, and half as smart.

SCR???

This is way better than the first release but it is pretty low qual for a scr. I was thinking more of TS Proper.

I believe this is a screener but it is shitty as hell. I think TCF could come through with a good release pretty soon.

i just want to know how they was able to put the numbers on this cam rls...

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Just my $.02, shit movie but that's not what were here for, were here to comment on quality. OK quality defintely better than the last releases. I noticed that a lot of films that people keep slagging off the ratio look fine if you have a tv out you can set for anamorphic 16:9, if you don't know what that means just type it in any search engine and you'll soon see so don't misquote about aspect ratio when you've missed the point. Minority report telecine was another one like this.

shit 6/6/6

Hmph! Respectable quality for a screener. Looks a bit like it's been soaked in piss or something though. Sound is average and the movie is a total ballsack.

8/6/4