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Posted by saasphil on 12-28-2004 01:12 AM:

What a bunch of jerks...


Posted by Horton on 12-28-2004 01:18 AM:

its all homerotic scene gayness to me


Posted by Neversoft on 12-28-2004 01:26 AM:

Black and white and no audio!!




... oh wait, it's an .nfo



8/10 Lost 2 marks due to lack of the word "Aubergenes" in the text.

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Posted by mooseman2070 on 12-28-2004 01:40 AM:

6/7/9

colors a bit off, sound is scratchy, enjoyed the part when he says "your mother gets rapped by 10 men with aids and you die a shity death you pc of shit..... "

it really shows the emotion within the main character, yet also shows he is full of love

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Posted by cyanidec on 12-28-2004 02:05 AM:

black and white shows really well on this, bit of an angle. 8/8/?


Posted by apache-vampire on 12-28-2004 02:13 AM:

lol

rapped ...lol set the mind to 10 men rapping to some guys mother

but seriously why bother even putting this nfo out ?

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Posted by se7ensoftware on 12-28-2004 02:13 AM:

Nuked 4x Mislabeled Cam

If you check the 3 rar from CD2 you will hear some laughter as the "mother raped" comment is said.


I love how they say no one in our groups name is frank. Like everyone is using their real names, especially when doing an interview for a magazine that is read world wide. I am thinking that one of the three members was Frank and the interview is legit. Now Frank regrets his loose lips, and didn't tell his buddies. Frank you are indeed an asshole.

8/8/?


Posted by Dan88 on 12-28-2004 02:39 AM:

Question

When I first heard about the article, I thought surely no group would be that dumb to do an interview like that. I mean first off, who the hell is named Frank nowadays? Even to make up the name and use it, they should've made up a better name than "Frank"... Fuck a frank!
Wired mag sucks dicks anyway...


Posted by xjules on 12-28-2004 02:46 AM:

Aw, I was kinda hoping it was an actual rls... maybe they could've recorded some guy reading the article to himself or something.

I was amazed Wired let the guy drop names like CTP and VideoCD... hell, they didn't even change the name of the site he mentioned.

In keeping with the spirit of the thread:

4/9/2

vid: bad crop, major angle, blurry.
aud: DTS! WHOO!
mov: mostly crap, though I feel terrible for that guy's mom.


Posted by DJtheory on 12-28-2004 03:25 AM:

Would someone care to post a link of the article this is refering to?


I'd actually go and read it.

=-D


Posted by Ryan166 on 12-28-2004 03:31 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by DJtheory
Would someone care to post a link of the article this is refering to?


I'd actually go and read it.

=-D


ditto, im consused


Posted by Carson on 12-28-2004 03:39 AM:

I'd kinda like to read it myself.

2/7/3.2

video is very grainy, audio is amazing, typical DTS and no hiss. actual movie sucked balls.


Posted by CARLlTOS on 12-28-2004 03:57 AM:

Not good

video 5
sound 7

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Posted by LoNeR on 12-28-2004 04:47 AM:

:: Printed articles are copyrighted. Don't request them. -K::

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Posted by bryehn on 12-28-2004 05:25 AM:

the article will be posted on wired`s site this week...

a simple scan of the site was all you needed to do.

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Posted by LaLooLa on 12-28-2004 05:41 AM:

I'm subscribed to wired, but havn't recieved this issue yet. I'll scan it for you guys when I get it, if no one else beats me.


Posted by HypoLuxa on 12-28-2004 05:53 AM:

First of all I think its funny you guys even read these threads. Secondly my comments that you so generously wrote me a personal .nfo about is rather interesting. My whole point was that shit is getting way to dangerously main stream for brake downs to happen in a mag like Wired…pathetic I tell you. Its funny though that being the big time mag that wired is, it would let one of its writers ramble off some random bullshit in a 3 full page (And very full detail I might add) article without any validity. I think not. I guess my point was in the first place that leaks like this will be the downfall of the scene. Flame away bitches…and by the way…Your Spy Kids 3D TS that was referred to as “High-Quality” rls that the article refers to as your foot in the scene blew ass (or at least so I noticed from the sample =p ). So who knows where the actual source they got all there information came from but regardless…SHIT LIKE THIS IS BAD BAD BAD!!!!!

Anyone interested in the article (even though I already posted this once so for all you ADD basterds out there) its in the January 2005 issue of Wired Mag.
Articles called “The Shadow Internet” page 155-159
Front cover of this particular issue has the dude that built the space shuttle to give space tours in this last year…the front of the mag say’s “ARE YOU READY TO ROCKET”

And as I said before…

+Flame


Posted by HypoLuxa on 12-28-2004 06:21 AM:

Personally I feel this rls should be nuked for bad AR (Absence of Reasonability) and wasting the scenes time.
I give it a
- / - / Read the article before you flame retards


Posted by vcd fogie on 12-28-2004 06:27 AM:

getting rapped is like, totally chill, g. word.

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Posted by LoNeR on 12-28-2004 07:35 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by LoNeR
:: Printed articles are copyrighted. Don't request them. -K::


LOL... What EVER was I thinking?

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Posted by DJtheory on 12-28-2004 07:42 AM:

"Printed articles are copyrighted. Don't request them"

actually, in the printing world, it's OK to reprint an article for informative reasons as long as you site the source.


-Your friendly neighborhood legal-geek

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Posted by HypoLuxa on 12-28-2004 07:50 AM:

Sorry, but totally forgot to post something...articles by a Jeff Howe.


Posted by vegasguy on 12-28-2004 08:09 AM:

Yep, was nuked for mislabel CAM, audio was hollow as hell, like talking in a cave. At one point some ass decide to stand in front of the camera and talk on his cellphone.

Anyways, I would also like to read this when it surfaces online.


Posted by LocK on 12-28-2004 08:10 AM:

I read the wired article. Pretty interesting read; I was surprised they could go into as much detail as they did. When a news reporter can drop site names like that, there's definately a problem. And whoever gave that reporter an interview are twats.


Posted by FamilyGuy2005 on 12-28-2004 09:35 AM:

Is this only a info theres no video or audio on this file is there?


Posted by spymaster on 12-28-2004 02:25 PM:

the article is by Jeff Howe (as mentioned above) and is entitled; "The Shadow Internet".

according to the wired website the article will be available online on december 30th.


Posted by crackerjax on 12-28-2004 03:33 PM:

it says on the wired website that the article will be posted on 12/30/2004 (couple of days) and then it will be available for "us" public to read ...

If a MaTinE member did have loose lips, he/she should be shot, if they didn't ... it wouldn't be hard for this Jeff fellow who wrote the article to get names like CTP & VideoCD either ...

MaTinE has been around for a while ... you'd think they'd know better?

/end rant


Posted by Jc100 on 12-28-2004 04:49 PM:

I got a logical question no one raised, that kind of points to Matine might be full of shit.. Even if there is no "Frank" in the group, who is to say one didnt do it and is regretful as someone said... Second, and the part that has not been raised, if it wasnt a member, then how the fuck would someone know that the L.A. times is requesting an interview. I imagine they didnt use a spammer and send it to everyones email address. Therefore, if it got to Matine, and other groups, Someone in a GROUP.... and most likely matine, would have then responded.. Not to say someone in another crew didnt do it, and lie on matine, but that is pretty unlikely, unless this group has serious enemies. I think they did it, and now with the flack, they are regretful for it, and trying to play it off... shoot me if im wrong.


Posted by kevlar on 12-28-2004 06:11 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jc100
I got a logical question no one raised, that kind of points to Matine might be full of shit.. Even if there is no "Frank" in the group, who is to say one didnt do it and is regretful as someone said... Second, and the part that has not been raised, if it wasnt a member, then how the fuck would someone know that the L.A. times is requesting an interview. I imagine they didnt use a spammer and send it to everyones email address. Therefore, if it got to Matine, and other groups, Someone in a GROUP.... and most likely matine, would have then responded.. Not to say someone in another crew didnt do it, and lie on matine, but that is pretty unlikely, unless this group has serious enemies. I think they did it, and now with the flack, they are regretful for it, and trying to play it off... shoot me if im wrong.


very good point...as you said, they busted themselves out in their own nfo by sayin they got that email from la times....i believe that they were thinkin about doing it, then said no, but someone in the grp went off and did it and the editor didnt change names like he was supposed to and now they are tryin to cover there ass's....for ever did this article...this shows you how insecure the scene really is cuz of n00bs....damn MaTine...or whoever, this is prob the down fall of a lot of sites and grps


Posted by baha on 12-28-2004 06:32 PM:

I had one of my best experiences ever with this dl - I clicked and it was there! Wow! Do they get any better than this?

Unfortunately the video and audio weren't quite as good...

0 - mine stuck on the rather unusual copyright warning - first time I've seen the copyright owners dissociating themselves from the content...if only we could convince sony, disney and dreamworks to go down the same route.

0 - hmmm...long time since I've seen a silent movie. Hardly in the Chaplin or Keaton class. In fact, not even up to Mel Brooks' Silent Movie. And as for the fansubs...obviously a non-native English speaker: "rapped by 10 men with aids" - there was me expecting "Two Thousand Maniacs!" and all I got was a Village People music video

8 - kept me amused, beats rubbing your knob up against a cheese grater (which is considerably less amusing). Not sure that I really want a sequel, but I'll have to see the "Making Of..." when it appears on the Wired site.

So, that's my hollywood arthouse dl for this month, I'm getting back on the Meet The Fockers, hopefully that has slightly more straightforward humour.


Posted by a1catraz on 12-28-2004 09:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jc100
I got a logical question no one raised, that kind of points to Matine might be full of shit.. Even if there is no "Frank" in the group, who is to say one didnt do it and is regretful as someone said... Second, and the part that has not been raised, if it wasnt a member, then how the fuck would someone know that the L.A. times is requesting an interview. I imagine they didnt use a spammer and send it to everyones email address. Therefore, if it got to Matine, and other groups, Someone in a GROUP.... and most likely matine, would have then responded.. Not to say someone in another crew didnt do it, and lie on matine, but that is pretty unlikely, unless this group has serious enemies. I think they did it, and now with the flack, they are regretful for it, and trying to play it off... shoot me if im wrong.


did you ever think about just sitting on your computer and just THINK... howww could the LA times have gotten an email address?
Did you ever think that they just looked at MaTiNe info? Where an email address is probably listed right on there?


Posted by Yosho on 12-28-2004 10:42 PM:

All I have to say is wtf!
why the hell would anyone call out the scene.
ur a moron who ever frank is.
I think matine should be scene banned.
anyone with me on this?
-Yosho


Posted by baha on 12-28-2004 10:52 PM:

Question

quote:
Originally posted by .Th3
Maybe you retard should learn about antisemitism, which is a bad bad thing ( if retardiphobism existed, you would be totally alone bud ) and know that JEW is not equal to RETARD, except for f*gs like you. Sorry about the flaming, but this got my attention.

About the nfo.. lame. That's it

i saw that post too and i presumed it was a l33t scene reference that i wasn't aware of or just didn't get - the capitalisation of 'JEW' made me think that i guess.

if it isn't and is a straight out anti-semitist slur then is that acceptable on this site? would the replacement of 'JEW' with 'CATHOLIC' have been acceptable? i've seen far less inflammatory posts edited on this site.

[ps: i'm neither jewish nor catholic. in fact, i don't subscribe to any "organised" religion at all, but simple respect for the beliefs, customs and lives of others makes me think the post referred to is far from acceptable.]

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Posted by Bazacko on 12-28-2004 10:59 PM:

Whether an MTE member gave an interview or not, that whole article was a load of crap. This is the second article to appear in "Wired" about piracy, and both have been huge fallacies designed to entertain Kazaa kiddies. The article from a couple of months ago mentioned "IRCs" and "Usenets."

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Posted by se7ensoftware on 12-28-2004 11:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by DJtheory
"Printed articles are copyrighted. Don't request them"

actually, in the printing world, it's OK to reprint an article for informative reasons as long as you site the source.


-Your friendly neighborhood legal-geek

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Actuallly you can only reprint four paragraphs without permission to not violate copyright laws. Will look for specific law and edit post.


Posted by HypoLuxa on 12-29-2004 03:21 AM:

Just incase anyone is interested.....

Wired.Magazine.Of.MaTiNE-NsANECREW


Posted by Jc100 on 12-29-2004 04:13 AM:

a1catraz, dude, seriously.. you are very very tired or FUCKING retarded.. re-read my post SLOWLY... very slowly.. anyone could have emailed them, but once its sent off, they need a username and password to check that box, numbnuts.. holy shit.. how do some people breed in this world..... Internet... definied as connection to information stored on database.. Email... sent to a person, requiring a username / password to check i most cases.. webpage, the place you log on to get the email... Does this clarify it or do i need to buy you some common sense to understand only a group member would have access to this?

Edit this for flaming, but i deserve this one, how moronic can some guys response be to the most logical of posts!!

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Posted by th3_d0c on 12-29-2004 08:05 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Yosho
All I have to say is wtf!
why the hell would anyone call out the scene.
ur a moron who ever frank is.
I think matine should be scene banned.
anyone with me on this?
-Yosho



I am guessing you havent seen "Welcome to the Scene"?

welcometothescene[DOT]com

Defianitly seems skripted.. Well I noticed it more in pt2. Seening how he had the NFO on his desktop the whole time. I figure it to be a little Audio/Video Major from NYU.


Posted by lorddusty on 12-29-2004 04:09 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by th3_d0c
I am guessing you havent seen "Welcome to the Scene"?

welcometothescene[DOT]com
.



LOL.. u'r joking right?


Just got done reading the article and as a whole its pretty much what I would have expected from that mag. They have a lot of things right on the workings of the scene (its really not so secret anymore as it used to be because of articles just like this and fucktards in the scene that contriubte to these articles). Giving out sitenames in articles.. tisk tisk. The people they choose to interview for this article just strike me as stupid and not worthy of top site access. I did enjoy the bittorent article though, good to see mags acknowleding that the currents sales medium of entertainment is going to change A LOT and real soon (I find this really ironic as I just finish reading the wired article online before it hits newstands)


Posted by Dark12345 on 12-29-2004 04:13 PM:

Has anyone this article? I want to read it! Pls PM me!

[EDIT:: It'll be online soon, read the previous posts! - NS]


Posted by JT_Ripper on 12-29-2004 05:02 PM:

Won't play in my standalone.

NUKE.


Posted by FirePixie on 12-29-2004 08:39 PM:

hmm, just read the article...sad that these people give away such information, I presume they got paid for it though. It's quite funny that the information still isn't 100% accurate despite the fact they interviewed 3 people. As for MaTinE they probably would have been better off not making this nfo...it's just brought more attention their way. This Frank guy does seem like quite a bullshitter


Posted by LOLobo on 12-29-2004 09:22 PM:

They mention the Hulk workprint being compressed from 9 GB to a single CD, released by SMF.

SMF's release was 2 CDs not one.


Posted by Movieman420 on 12-29-2004 10:39 PM:

The scene has enuff to deal with at the moment without shit like this comming out!! Whatever their role, matine has gotta go. The info divulged may not be super secret but it sure as hell didn't need to become common knowledge. Matine should be nuked as a scene group for this stunt. /rant

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Posted by Jc100 on 12-29-2004 11:52 PM:

The hulk workprint was available on kazaa first, by some guy who got it from his friend.... huge article on it.. His friend worked for advertising company, that was doing the stuff for movie company, forget which, that was releases hulk... As a result, the advertising company get a promotional tape, and this guy leaked it to his friend... His friend then put it up on kazaa and got his ass busted.. LOL matine had nothing to do with that...But regardless, to do such an interview and disclose such volatile information is stupid.. way to go group... im sure you'll be nuked and banned from lots of sites for this fiascal.


Posted by Califax on 12-30-2004 01:28 AM:

I just read it. I assume Movie Theatres know about this stuff, but why bring attention to it Dumbasses


Posted by a1catraz on 12-30-2004 05:29 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jc100
a1catraz, dude, seriously.. you are very very tired or FUCKING retarded.. re-read my post SLOWLY... very slowly.. anyone could have emailed them, but once its sent off, they need a username and password to check that box, numbnuts.. holy shit.. how do some people breed in this world..... Internet... definied as connection to information stored on database.. Email... sent to a person, requiring a username / password to check i most cases.. webpage, the place you log on to get the email... Does this clarify it or do i need to buy you some common sense to understand only a group member would have access to this?

Edit this for flaming, but i deserve this one, how moronic can some guys response be to the most logical of posts!!

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dude, i think the best thing for you to do is to type out your shit in Microsoft Word, grammar check + spell check, then maybe just MAYBE you should post it here. How could I understand what you tried to say when you have commas in the wrong places and the paragraph was so choppy that i had to literally read out loud.

and to be straight out with you, your shit don't make sense.
la times requested an interview, they could have sent it to all the groups via email. they get the email from the nfos. matine check and refused the interview. la times could have mentioned something about the wired interview. the possiblities are numerous but yours is from what i could understand (and not much) is farfetched and should be ridiculed.


Posted by dapoopta on 12-30-2004 06:27 AM:

hmmm... rapped... always thought these guys had more brains and would be able to spell "RAPED", or maybe there were talking about rappers, like the music type

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Posted by DJtheory on 12-30-2004 08:12 AM:

The article should be posted sometime tomorrow.....

.......If I find a link, I'll post it here


Posted by vegasguy on 12-30-2004 09:15 AM:

Here is the link to the story:

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.01/topsite.html


Posted by HypoLuxa on 12-30-2004 11:27 AM:

That’s a very cut down version of the actual article. That’s funny though because LooSeLips(Mat)ine isn’t mentioned anywhere. Then again the actual physical printed mag version is as I said before—page 155-159—So obviously its more than a few paragraphs unlike the version printed on wired’s actual site.

*Cough…….Wired.Magazine.Of.MaTiNE-NsANECREW………/Cough*


Posted by LoNeR on 12-30-2004 12:07 PM:

Just finished reading this article. What a moron. He was prolly denied axs when he stumbled across that topsites name. And since he couldn't cut it in the scene, he's gotta get pr0pz for his l337 self somewhere else.

"Hmmm... I know. Why don't I just call up this tech-rag and tell them I have some uber info that goes to the top of the underground movie scene, drop a few names on them, and bada-bing-bada-boom, I'm important!" -Frank

Rot in a putrid cesspool of cat piss, traitor.

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Posted by shark on 12-30-2004 01:09 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by th3_d0c
I am guessing you havent seen "Welcome to the Scene"?

welcometothescene[DOT]com

Defianitly seems skripted.. Well I noticed it more in pt2. Seening how he had the NFO on his desktop the whole time. I figure it to be a little Audio/Video Major from NYU.



This is a PR trip guys. Have a look over here: http://junentertainment.com/ who created 'The Scene' downloadable TV show, Forest is one of the Principals.

From Wired article: "in fact, Forest believes the scene will eventually go legit, and he's even started a company, called Jun Group, that uses the topsites to promote movies, musicians, and TV shows."

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Posted by F0ur2o on 12-30-2004 04:22 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by HypoLuxa
That’s a very cut down version of the actual article. That’s funny though because LooSeLips(Mat)ine isn’t mentioned anywhere. Then again the actual physical printed mag version is as I said before—page 155-159—So obviously its more than a few paragraphs unlike the version printed on wired’s actual site.

*Cough…….Wired.Magazine.Of.MaTiNE-NsANECREW………/Cough*



Try the Next Page button. Tool.

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Posted by HypoLuxa on 12-30-2004 04:46 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by F0ur2o
Try the Next Page button. Tool.



Damn good point
Thats what you get for trying to read an on-line article drunk as hell..


Posted by Jc100 on 12-30-2004 05:49 PM:

Its alright alcatraz, the 3 people that quoated me understood me just fine. It's over your head, we will leave it at that... You simply do not get it, and I am not wanting to get banned explaining it to you.... stupid fucking kids... Anyhow, its said and done, and the article is out, this grouped blew it, and now i hope they are delusered off every site they pre from... Possibilities they didnt slim to none... They might have emailed every group, but as i said, which some slow people are to stupid to decipher, I highly doubt someone is going to pose as matine and do an interview.. this group is not the biggest name, and mostly does sub par work.. no one cares about them... So i doubt they got enemies. They did it, they got the email, now someone is covering their own ass... what more to be said.


Posted by satanwantsme on 12-30-2004 07:22 PM:

Link

Not sure if I can post it or not, so Ill play it safe and ask you all to PM me if you would like a link to a scan of the article (Its uploaded on yousendit.com and can be viewed on acrobat)

PM me if you want it


Posted by rockomania on 12-31-2004 01:12 AM:

Re: Link

quote:
Originally posted by satanwantsme
Not sure if I can post it or not, so Ill play it safe and ask you all to PM me if you would like a link to a scan of the article (Its uploaded on yousendit.com and can be viewed on acrobat)

PM me if you want it


Thanks satanwantsme, but I think the link to the wired article has already been posted but if there is something missing from the online article I read I stand corrected. I know little about all the stuff going on behind the scenes, but as to what was told in the article it seems like old news. Even a dullard like me knows the majority of the things mentioned in this article. But if it can be confirmed that someone in Matine gave out this info or gave an interview, sure boot there asses out; scene ban or whatever. This Bruce Forest idiot from junentertainment.com , the self-described "elder-statesman" in the piracy scene as the article reads, sounds like a freakin wanna-be. He says in the interview that he's a double agent. Another word for a SNITCH. A Rat to all of us in here. Like I said, I'm a newbie, but I know that if I use google I can find that Jun Entertainment lists Bruce forest as a "principal." If I look on their site I can see that the site lists NBC enterprises as one of it's clients. NBC is 80% owned by General Electric and 20% owned by Vivendi Universal. Vivendi Universal game labels include Blizzard Entertainment (warcraft series), Fox Interactive (Aliens vs. Predator) and of course Sierra Entertainment (Half-life + NOLF). And GE lists UNIVERSAL Pictures as it's film division. In the article Bruce says in referance to the whole HULK release incident "Here's what actually happened: Universal gave the workprint to its Manhattan ad agency. Then the print got to SMF. And bam!" SMF, Forest explains, is a piracy group that specializes in acquiring movies in theatrical release. So was bruce inpart responsible for turning in people in the scene by helping the cops/studio track down those responsible? Maybe he knows, cause I don't.
Now why am I talking about all this crap? I was wondering because in the article from WIRED it says "As a consultant for one of the world's largest entertainment companies, Forest notifies his bosses whenever one of their movies appears on a topsite. " Bruce states "Basically, I'm a double agent," he concedes. "Though I don't fink anyone out. I'm not a cop." GIVE ME A BREAK. So he's a good guy that tells his employers when a movie/game is released but a bad "elder statesman in the piracy community" by NOT telling his employers where that movie came from, who released and where they can find these guys who did the pirating (YARRRR). This guys screaming for attention so much it hurts. But hes in the wrong scene to be drawing attention. I might be playing comspiracy theororist but maybe there is some knod of connection, maybe there is not. Peace

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Posted by crackerjax on 12-31-2004 01:21 AM:

No need to upload it anywhere, it's clearly posted on Wired's website. Wow, after reading that article, that Frank guy really is a stupid idiot. Way to give up your group name, and be a sitting duck for the next round of busts ... but after reading the article, I think Frank has already been busted and well ... he's turned States' Witness.

Oh well ... another stupid f*cker in the scene ... another scene ban coming ... much overdue for MaTinE, they've been producing quality crap for ages now, they are very shady and risk a lot, the scene won't miss them, at all.

/end rant


Posted by Bazacko on 12-31-2004 03:31 AM:

I assume I can post article scans now.
If anyone wants them they're here:
http://www.kylerdotson.com/images/wired

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Posted by .Th3 on 12-31-2004 01:39 PM:

Just pure LAME ! Do the interviewed people realise how retardish they are ? This is just bullshit, scene is a confident and secret thing, how do they dare giving away topsites name ? Anyways, not so much ulta cool information was revealed here, but I guess that a perm scene-ban for MaTiNe would be a good thing ( considering a real MaTiNe's member was speaking, of course ).

0/0/0


Posted by SHaKiNGBRaVe on 12-31-2004 11:36 PM:

i don't get the reaction some people are having to this article. you must have been living under a rock for the last 4 years or so since the big busts started happening. the fbi/feds/etc have always and will always have moles in the scene to moniter it. they have known/will always know how the scene works. there is no fool proof way to guard it. so in the end all this article did was publish information that the public may have not been privy to, but law enforcement has known for years. it wouldn't surprise me if the feds had a comprehensive list of topsites/ips/other information about them. i mean jeez even the legendary, secret, and thought to be impenetrable c* was discovered, publicized and taken down. all i'm saying is, what's the big deal about this??

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Posted by sleeper0 on 01-01-2005 08:16 AM:

whoever posted the link to welcometothescene.com should be shot - i downloaded the episode 2 and watched 2/3rds of it - i want that 10 minutes of my life back. This was produced by the same company mentioned in the wired article right? Jesus christ, they need to get a clue - just because everyone you know spends all their time on irc doesnt make it worthy of making a video out of.


Posted by Ripper on 01-02-2005 04:30 AM:

SHaKiNGBRaVe i think i know what u are talking about and if so it was summin to do with a user called batgirl that started that off i think, so much has happened since then its hard to remember lol.

Also this frank guy if he tells his bosses what has been released on the net be it movie company or whatever cant the fuckwit boss just click on this site and 1 or 2 others and find out him/her self??

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Posted by weedchemist on 01-02-2005 06:27 PM:

1 thing no1 mentioned

I have read most if not all of the comments on here for this, and altho the info is not that great no1 in the scene should reveal anything... even tho i do agree with SHaKiNGBRaVe, the article wont do much to help fbi and such... but 1 thing that wasnt mentioned in any post is dont u all remember that fiasco that matine had with the great ts they did of barbershop 2? they had like 2-3 repacks of cuz some1 inside the group slipped an unfinished version out.... i bet they didnt kick him out, he found out about the interviews, and needed some $$... and hes stupid, how are u gonna say u have been questioned by the fbi, and then say that u had something to do with halflife slipping and that would definately get u busted...?? hopefully it does my friend, even if it isnt true


Posted by a1catraz on 01-02-2005 08:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jc100
Its alright alcatraz, the 3 people that quoated me understood me just fine. It's over your head, we will leave it at that... You simply do not get it, and I am not wanting to get banned explaining it to you.... stupid fucking kids... Anyhow, its said and done, and the article is out, this grouped blew it, and now i hope they are delusered off every site they pre from... Possibilities they didnt slim to none... They might have emailed every group, but as i said, which some slow people are to stupid to decipher, I highly doubt someone is going to pose as matine and do an interview.. this group is not the biggest name, and mostly does sub par work.. no one cares about them... So i doubt they got enemies. They did it, they got the email, now someone is covering their own ass... what more to be said.


man, ANYBODY can have enemies. half the school probably hates you and the worst thing is, you think they are your friends.


Posted by ksyme99 on 01-02-2005 09:06 PM:

'The' article

I agree with what people are saying that this isn't new stuff this article is saying. I have only been with the 'scene' for a couple of years, and I know everything from that article. Anyone who has had any experience with the scene or has been remotely interested to find out, their are thousands oif people out there to ask.
Having said that, I still think 'Frank' is still a little feckier for doing this interview.
I also find it strange that it seems to be the people who knew this stuff already that have gotten most upset about it. Don't quite know what to make of that.
Also, any member of the public might be curious to know this, but none of them are going to go to their local police station and tell them all about it. No one gives a fuck. As many have said before, the government agencies already know about all this and probably know more than anyone about the scene, save a select few.
Just thought I'd give my two cents, since everyone else has

P.S. Could certain people make a bit more effort with grammer and punctuation, you don't want to end up like Frank do you


Posted by horizonstar on 01-03-2005 01:16 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jc100
Anyhow, its said and done, and the article is out, this grouped blew it, and now i hope they are delusered off every site they pre from... Possibilities they didnt slim to none... They might have emailed every group, but as i said, which some slow people are to stupid to decipher, I highly doubt someone is going to pose as matine and do an interview.. this group is not the biggest name, and mostly does sub par work.. no one cares about them... So i doubt they got enemies. They did it, they got the email, now someone is covering their own ass... what more to be said.

FYI, the interviewers did in fact e-mail a bunch of groups in the first few months of 2004. Small release groups have enemies too -- especially when they've splintered off from other groups due to bad blood -- so it's plausible that someone was pretending to be a MaTinE member. Who knows.

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Posted by HypoLuxa on 01-03-2005 04:21 AM:

Thought you guys may get a kick out of this article too... specially since it mentions this site and all

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050102/D87BV1I00.html


Posted by LoNeR on 01-03-2005 04:58 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by HypoLuxa
Thought you guys may get a kick out of this article too... specially since it mentions this site and all

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050102/D87BV1I00.html



**DUPE**

That's a reprint of an article from Yahoo...

see: http://forum.vcdq.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52720

::edit: Made it to 100 posts! Now I must be 1337

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Posted by zacjedi on 01-03-2005 05:11 AM:

Yeah I saw that same AP article on MSNBC.

The funny thing is how stupid the media sounds when it tries to explain the scene like its the new big thing the feds have to worry about, when really its been going on for years. All it is is another way for the media to put ideas in the politician's mind that going after "the scene" should be their next big cause.

Nevermind that DLing movies is a harmless vice, not unlike smoking. What the feds should be worrying about are the dangerous criminals: terrorists! To hell with VCD groups, try finding some terrorists!

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Posted by Skrilla_Shady on 01-03-2005 11:09 AM:

yo this is hilarious. The "scene" has been around since 386 computers and 2400 baud modems. I remember BBS' that u would get 0-day games that would take all night to download (they were like 5 disks (3.5")) and then 14.4 modems came out and it started to get a little faster...

the fact is that none of the information in that article is really all that new.... I mean my parents know that us kids download and burn movies. They dont know how to do it themselves but do u think they care when they are watching the new disney crapper for free only to find out it sucked. Shit man IMO its very LAME to mention names, because if there has one thing the scene has been about its being ELITE and having the best shit, and getting it first. Not blabbing all about it to your friends how you get it....

Keep Doing your thang as the bandwidth gets better and better and watch these fuckin dumbass' like RIAA and MPAA try and stop it. Only makes it more laughable....

reppin the scene since early 90z

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Posted by UglyNaked on 01-03-2005 03:57 PM:

Scene? What scene? When I think of 'The Scene' - I think of actual release groups that cracked and coded - groups like Fairlight or DoD et al. While I appreciate someone dragging their DigiCam into the theater, or taking the time to rip the promo copy of an unreleased flick that fell off a truck, this is not exactly a display of esoteric skills. I don't know or remotely care whether or not the Wired article is authentic - but if the NFO really came from MaTine - they should stick to uploading their rips and not speak out in public as they lack MaD vErBaLSkIllZ.


Posted by Moloko_Plus on 01-05-2005 02:49 AM:

Will wait for the MAVEN version, kthxbye.


Posted by HypoLuxa on 01-06-2005 07:44 AM:

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight ^


Posted by T-H-E-W-H-O on 01-06-2005 11:18 PM:

this is all a huge conspiracy... The only reason that article was made is because they knew the news would hit vcdq. And what you all failed to realize is, wired knew we would get the link to the article, so the link when viewed launchs an activex that install to %systemroot%/system32/ (lsass.exe gets replaced) and this file then installs a bounce on your system and sends your flash fxp sites.dat file to wired.com/fbi affiled servers. Then with the bounce and then dns the program assigns to your machine, the authority can now login to all you're sites. There is aso an indexing file that comes with the activex installation after viewing the site. The indexing file looks for folders with *.vcd*/*.svcd*/*xbox/etc etc. Yes, the maagazine article may have been highly in-acurate and off source, but what you all failed to realize is that was the crust of the pie for thier new anti-piracy campaign. And yes, you all took the bate im sorry to say. And if you dont take my word for it just do a search for "project +fastlink +anathema -isp" The moral of this lesson is...
your bases are now belong to them.

i recommend encrypting your sites.bat and looking in task manager for lsass.exe and ending the process.
This is no joke.


Posted by Robert Jones on 01-07-2005 12:21 AM:

lol


Posted by horizonstar on 01-07-2005 03:26 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by T-H-E-W-H-O
this is all a huge conspiracy... The only reason that article was made is because they knew the news would hit vcdq ...

Yay! Does this mean all Windows users in the scene will be busted!?!?!

Can't wait.

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Posted by T-H-E-W-H-O on 01-07-2005 05:39 AM:

yup horiz, that means more leeching for u on ur unix based pile os. lol


Posted by Wehrmacht on 01-08-2005 02:56 PM:

I've always thought it funny, and encouraging, that public exposure such as this often revolves around groups that won't be missed.


Posted by T-H-E-W-H-O on 01-08-2005 07:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Wehrmacht
I've always thought it funny, and encouraging, that public exposure such as this often revolves around groups that won't be missed.

as in whom? ctp would be missed... anathemas site would be missed.............

matine... well..... ok i agree there. lol


Posted by a1catraz on 01-09-2005 07:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by T-H-E-W-H-O
as in whom? ctp would be missed... anathemas site would be missed.............

matine... well..... ok i agree there. lol



I can tell you someone who won't be missed.
You.


Posted by Bazacko on 01-09-2005 11:15 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by T-H-E-W-H-O
this is all a huge conspiracy... The only reason that article was made is because they knew the news would hit vcdq. And what you all failed to realize is, wired knew we would get the link to the article, so the link when viewed launchs an activex that install to %systemroot%/system32/ (lsass.exe gets replaced) and this file then installs a bounce on your system and sends your flash fxp sites.dat file to wired.com/fbi affiled servers. Then with the bounce and then dns the program assigns to your machine, the authority can now login to all you're sites. There is aso an indexing file that comes with the activex installation after viewing the site. The indexing file looks for folders with *.vcd*/*.svcd*/*xbox/etc etc. Yes, the maagazine article may have been highly in-acurate and off source, but what you all failed to realize is that was the crust of the pie for thier new anti-piracy campaign. And yes, you all took the bate im sorry to say. And if you dont take my word for it just do a search for "project +fastlink +anathema -isp" The moral of this lesson is...
your bases are now belong to them.

i recommend encrypting your sites.bat and looking in task manager for lsass.exe and ending the process.
This is no joke.


AHAHAHAHHAAHhAHAHAHHA great stuff.

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Posted by T-H-E-W-H-O on 01-11-2005 06:19 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by a1catraz
I can tell you someone who won't be missed.
You.



AHAHAH cause ur like a leet scene wh0re h@x0r right? And everyone knows who you are? So your more important and respected than me right? lol.....

OMFGZ L3TS S7@RT TALKIN6Z SH1T On ThE inTR@WEB OMFGDZ!

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/tmd.JPG


^view a1caztraz3z sites.dat file!!!!


Posted by a1catraz on 01-13-2005 07:04 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by T-H-E-W-H-O
AHAHAH cause ur like a leet scene wh0re h@x0r right? And everyone knows who you are? So your more important and respected than me right? lol.....

OMFGZ L3TS S7@RT TALKIN6Z SH1T On ThE inTR@WEB OMFGDZ!

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/tmd.JPG


^view a1caztraz3z sites.dat file!!!!



WaaOW. You got me. Good one.

I'm acutally happy i'm not all LEEETTT AND SHIETTTTNIZZZ in the scene. I'd take my social life over your pathetic IRC life anyday. :]

To think that you actually feel the need to spend time on making that TMD.JPG shit, really cracks me up. I'm done with you, bitch.


Posted by T-H-E-W-H-O on 01-13-2005 07:36 PM:

lol yeah cause i used my super photoshop skills to do it. it took about 6 hours to render. That was my best piece of work yet!


Posted by Bazacko on 01-14-2005 04:23 AM:

If I were a mod I'd lock this thread.

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Posted by Koonie on 01-15-2005 01:26 PM:

the fact of the matter is, the wired article, this thread, or any other public exposure is not a good thing to put out there, but the MPAA or FEDS already know there's not alot they can do, they can only try to control it in small ways (which they have attempted time and time again). I agree that the Wired article was a tactic of some kind to try and stir things up a bit, which worked obviously!, but that's all it is.

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