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wow... about time groups are called out for their TC antics.... Glad they switched to Xvid, definately kills most if not all competition for a Race... watching WUF TS right now, so I can sleep, If I waited for this itd be too late, but from a few starting rars its great definately clearer and more defined... the sound is good, like many recent TS... this rls without a full watch is 9/7/9 greatmovie ...SAME AS WUF JUST JUST FILTERED
nice quality, audio is superb, and video is good even for a dark movie. glad they have moved over to xvid.
8/9/x
very nice release. i nearly shit myself with teh fastness of this.
9/8/9 (this is up there with the matrix reloaded TS by CTP)
oh and nice NFO!
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Great quality pic and audio and nice to see MaVen doing what more groups should be doing.. Binning the SVCD and moving with the times. As they arn't the quickest at releasing it also helps them avoid having to release as INTs or being nuked for duping other lesser groups TS's that have lesser standards and don't care about quality.
Very amusing nfo and really put's PRODiGY and their "TCs" to shame. I imagine if they had sources this good they would be releasing them as DVDscr
Top job MaVen and more XviDs plz
8.5/8/7
GREAT JOB maVen
This film is so clear and vivid
Video - 9
Audio - 9
Movie - 8
GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!
Excellent release, Fast & Quality a rare combination.
***XVID!!!! only 24 mins till dvd for me
8.8/8.8/9
Best rip so far
For a TS its great
9/8/?
i like the xvid format
keep it up maven
v=8
a=8
m=6 (didn't like the first one and this wasn't any better)
9/8/?
thanks....maven 2 for 2 enjoyed Stay as well....
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Oh noo :( XViD isn't what the majority want!
I believe there'll be dubbed XViD > SVCD reencodes here in our country, just to satisfy the majority :/
But reencodes aren't what we really want.
Please encode in SVCD-format again.
XViD is for pr0n on PC-screen, always used SVCD for TV, because it's the best, and supported by ALL standalone-players.
Btw. have seen the sample .. nice job, as usual :)
Regards, cx
EDiT
".. XViD, to better suit our supreme quality .."
But TSs are always a little bit blurry, so SVCD is OK ;D
Make a SVCD-rls, too. And let the ppl decide what's best ..
Traffic doesn't matter ..
Anyway - when the movie starts here in cinema (06/feb/09) there will be a DVDRip in SVCD-format :D
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nice to see they're not doing svcds anymore, much better size and slightly better quality than what we usually get from them
video 9.5/10 I dunno how these guys do it, but most of there TS' look as good as telecenes, sometimes even better, this is just as good
sound 9/10 can't really complain as its direct sound, cant get any better unless its surround sound
movie 8/10
Well MaVen this is Goooooddd guys
Video 9
audio 8
Movie 8 thought it was grt for a followup
Btw can someone enlighten me as to if theres a rule about releasing a higher quality ts in a different format that it wont get Nuked as a dupe
Because if not this is a grt way around the dupe rule
Very nice and fast .. Just watched the whole thing and its preaty great! All there also:
8/a
8/v
9/m
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Originally posted by SaabZ
Well MaVen this is Goooooddd guys
Video 9
audio 8
Movie 8 thought it was grt for a followup
Btw can someone enlighten me as to if theres a rule about releasing a higher quality ts in a different format that it wont get Nuked as a dupe
Because if not this is a grt way around the dupe rule
bit too much ass kissin going on
as a ts...........8/5/?
video is quality telesync with some motion blur but very watchable
audio is non direct and is hollow and muffled to the point that some scenes are hard to follow.
this is how to convert xvid to dvd format very very easily.
grab a piece of software called vso divxtodvd converter.
load up the xvid and click convert.
it produces a VIDEO_TS folder after about an hour. this can be burnt using nero as a dvd movie or i like to convert this to iso format using imgtools and keep it stored on my hard disk.
this is real simple newbie stuff to do.
so....grab xvids, better quality and save bandwidth.
::EDIT:: I wish you peeps would stick to reviewing the release, transferring xvid>dvd has been discussed to death on the forum already - NS::
MaVen come out on top again, just seen the sample, looks nice, u can see the grainy ness in the background abit but the xvid format helps that out more, Video is so nice, nice colour and very clear, the audio is fine but great but good enought for my eyes . I also got the Stay sample for some reason and that looks quality. MaVen always have the video, its just getting the sound now a-days, keep up the good work guys.
V: 8 (For a TS, very nice)
S:7.5 (Abit hissy but fine by me)
F: Will Watch Tonight.
PS Cartel used to release the TS on xvid format, like Spiderman 2 etc, they never got nuked and was great viewing
Excellent release from MAVEN :-)
v:9
a:9
m:8
oh my god, that's awsome!!!
best colours, horny audio and xvid!
thanks a lot maVen, you know how to cap a movie
9/9/9
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Awesome XVID Switch!!
XVID is by far a superior way to download movies!! There is no quality loss between it and svcd and you are able to burn it to one dvd rather then 2 cd's!! If your DVD doesn't support XVID then buy a new one with all the money you saved from these sweet releases!!! Keep it up maVen!!!
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XVID is it!!
Why anyone would complain about XVID...lets see the facts...smaller files for downloading...usually only 1 disk...if you have a DIVX player like Phillips DVP643 or the new LG or if your in Canada Crappy Tire has a DIVX player for $69...now if you dont have a player...then 1 hour convert using Nero 7 in to DVD format....seems like a winner to me!!
Now the movie...
Great job Maven!!
A=9
V=8(a tad dark)
M=8.5 Good sequal
great rls, and i for one am happy with the changeover to xvid
as a ts:
9/9/?
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the difference between compression and encoding is:
compression software works the same way as trying to get The 404, who is 350lbs, through a normal door. its method is to basically keep kicking The 404 until he gets thru the door. This works quickly, but leaves a nasty mess.
encoding software is the equivalent of The 404 going on a diet and walking thru the door. takes longer and sometimes more skill, but ultimately worth it.
v=9
a=8
m=10
No questions about that i was waiting for this a long time ago.
Wow! The quality on this release for a TS is damn good! Haven't seen TS's like this since TMM or some of CTP's TS.
I don't like the idea of XViD only releases, because you have to convert them to play on a standalone...but if Maven keeps quality releases like this coming, then I'm all for it .
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Hi! i�m new...aand i�ve a question:
What means a TEG-vcd
do i need a special codec to watch "teg-vcd�s"?
excellent quality on both picture and sound
glad to see there doing there movies with the xvid format
keep it up maven
just wasted a DVD on this
its wicked-bad quality, but i just burned this to dvd using nve3 and am watching it now only to realize that the dvd is not in sync. i've never had this problem before though. im not bashing the release since it is the best one so far
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I quite like the new format. No break in the middle, better quality. Keep it up. Plays really well on XBMC
May only just be me but it aint as good as people are saying!!! Yeah its pretty good for a ts, but 9.5 video!!???
Video 7
Sound 7.5
Movie 6
i dont know whether i can ask but is this release in 25fps or 23.9...?
Cheers
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xvid is the easiest conversion ever for a dvd. Just use Winavi, or dvd santa, they convert xvids real easy and real fast. Depending on the speed of your processor withing an hour maybe 2 the latest you can have your movie completely converted to dvd and ready to watch on standalone. Trust me they work.
Now SVCD's are longer file sizes and harder to convert. I normally use dvd santa or nero concerter for svcd's but they take forever. I mean like 5 hours to convert whereas the xvid takes no less than an hour and a half for the work.
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Awsome TS, as we used to from maVen.
The pucture is perfect (for a TS dont expect a DVDRip kind of quality), And sound is great, haven't had any problem understanding what they saying.
V=10 - For a TS i dont think u can ask for more.
S=8.5 - (Great but not perfect, i saw (or heared) better from maVen actually).
M=8 - Very good, but not as good as the first one (but thats HARD).
excellent release excellent film 9/8/10
why do people whine about xvids? buy a bloody standalone player for £30 that will play them jobs a goodun take half the time to download and better quality.. i dont see the problem
hmmm anyone else notice that
the release title is Saw 2 *XViD* - TELESYNC - maVen
yet the nfo says
"Here is another great TC for you to enjoy, "
and " when we're making our
great Telecines "
lol
alot of ass kissing! .. quit that shit...
from being a top-rated SVCD TS release group ... to re-econding to XViD .. tahts really sad .....
Movie - 7
Audio- 8
Movie- 9
Why is it really shit, is it because you cannot put it on to svcd and sell it to your mates. The quality is better and its not split into 2 part just one xvid.
holy/fucking/shit
AKA
9/9/?
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Superb TS. Good but not fab audio and superb video for a dark film.
I much prefer divx/xvid as a format. Smaller file sizes, better image quality (in my opinion.
A large number of dvd players support xvid now (and let's face it, not all dvd players support vcd/svcd anyway).
And an even larger number just output to xbmc.
Come on what can you say its a MaVen rls. MAVEN MAVEN MAVEN MAVEN. Anyone that has anything to say about MaVen's work needs to leave now. Yeah I am swinging from his nuts. Why? HE is my personal hero. I say that cause every group out there has let me down at least once. Not MaVen Always quality. Always!! And the "call out" in the NFO is classic. Well by my comments you already know how I feel about this release but for those that want number
8.5/8/10 This movie is sick and I loved it!
GREAT work once again maVen. I ( for one ) am VERY happy that you have switched formats. Much smaller DL's and better quality
9 / 8 / 10 ( better than the first
Not a TS. It's a CAM. You can hear the guy cough throughout the movie who is filming and an early cam mic brush (along with hollowness). Great quality, but kind of ironic seeing as how they stated in the NFO about the TC mislables.
8/6/8.
Still better than the majority of cams that are put out.
SAME VIDEO
this is the same video as WUF just filtered. sorry spae a|\|d other keys died... the krop is esaktly the same.. sorry for the skrewed keyoard
I HOPE \/ is |\|ot talkig aout me... |\|ot rekode still same video worked a|\|d filtered, same silver dvd sourse tho
let me add the audio is |\|ot as good as Wuf good though
For all the people who are saying this is a re-encode, learn what the word means first. This is not a re-encode, this is the original. A re-encode is taking media, and changing it to another format. There are no other formats of this release, therefor it is not a re-encode.
A Re-ecode would be like Maven releaseing an SVCD and then another group releasing the same source in Xvid.
Anyways... After checking out a few rars and a the sample...
V: 8 - SUPERB for a TS!
A: 8 - A bit bassy, but it'll do...
M: n/a - Will watch all of it later
all this talk about re-encodes makes me wanna head over to tmd and download a 200mb avi file that looks like garbage and has the tmd-moviez tag across the bottom ruining the release. just kidding, i wouldn't waste my time
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Well I purchased my replacement standalone like 3 or 4 months ago and paid a little extra for it because of DivX playback capability. So far I've had success with one DivX/Xvid format disc playing on it w/o big blocks everywhere and the color/image being extremely distorted (Philips DVP-642 I believe).
So I was reluctant to get this copy at first, I had planned to convert it. I didn't think the WUF svcd was gonna be worth it. To my surprise, this copy works on my standalone AND looks/sounds good. At least good enough for me. It is a little discolored in dark spots for me, could just be my player. Minor motion blur, not distracting though.
Sound seems good for me as well, I don't have the volume up very high at all and I'm hearing everything clear, the parts where they play the cassette player need some additonal volume.
Decent, fast work maVen.
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Originally posted by pmcx9
this is how to convert xvid to dvd format very very easily.
grab a piece of software called vso divxtodvd converter.
load up the xvid and click convert.
it produces a VIDEO_TS folder after about an hour. this can be burnt using nero as a dvd movie or i like to convert this to iso format using imgtools and keep it stored on my hard disk.
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Originally posted by Neomic2005
For all the people who are saying this is a re-encode, learn what the word means first. This is not a re-encode, this is the original. A re-encode is taking media, and changing it to another format. There are no other formats of this release, therefor it is not a re-encode.
A Re-ecode would be like Maven releaseing an SVCD and then another group releasing the same source in Xvid.
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v-8 a-7 m-8
xvid = smaller filesize and thats enough for me.
im sure everyone loves having ten million svcds laying around.
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ack, 1hour?
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my pc aint slow either, 1.5gigs ram
Re: SAME VIDEO
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Originally posted by Iammyself
this is the same video as WUF just filtered. sorry spae a|\|d other keys died... the krop is esaktly the same.. sorry for the skrewed keyoard
I HOPE \/ is |\|ot talkig aout me... |\|ot rekode still same video worked a|\|d filtered, same silver dvd sourse tho
let me add the audio is |\|ot as good as Wuf good though
9/8/8
Overall, the quality is great...best of the releases for this movie without a doubt. However, I have my doubts as to whether the audio is direct. I swear I hear coughing a few times throughout the movie...take for example the very beginning when the TV comes on and the puppet says, "Hello Michael, I want to play a game." Listen carefully in the pause between "Michael" and "I want..." and you will hear someone coughing.
No big deal, as I said quality is still great, just warrants mentioning.
This release is awesome. I sure hope maven gets the movie "Get rich or die tryin". keep up the good work maven your the best
v-7.5 a bit bluured at times
a-7-kinda hollow
m-watching as i type
burned to dvd and lookin good so far, good job guys
best ts i've ever seen maven....
9/8/8
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Originally posted by cra-xxx
Oh noo XViD isn't what the majority want!
I believe there'll be dubbed XViD > SVCD reencodes here in our country, just to satisfy the majority :/
But reencodes aren't what we really want.
Please encode in SVCD-format again.
XViD is for pr0n on PC-screen, always used SVCD for TV, because it's the best, and supported by ALL standalone-players.
Btw. have seen the sample .. nice job, as usual
Regards, cx
EDiT
".. XViD, to better suit our supreme quality .."
But TSs are always a little bit blurry, so SVCD is OK ;D
Make a SVCD-rls, too. And let the ppl decide what's best ..
Traffic doesn't matter ..
Anyway - when the movie starts here in cinema (06/feb/09) there will be a DVDRip in SVCD-format
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ok, well in future when you join a community that is very anti-sellers, you really should choose a username that isn't going to cause confusion and annoyance. its like joinin an arabic forum with the name BUSHRULES because you like the australian outback.
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Originally posted by Avenue_2
This is the original... so maven used an xvid camcorder to capture this?
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hmmm anyone else notice that
the release title is Saw 2 *XViD* - TELESYNC - maVen
yet the nfo says
"Here is another great TC for you to enjoy, "
and " when we're making our
great Telecines "
lol
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Thank you, maVen, for leading the charge to abandon the older MPEG formats in the pre-retail universe. The scene needed a high-profile group to take this big step, and I didn't think it would happen so soon. You have my support. (No more nukes for XviD TS! )
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xvid is the easiest conversion ever for a dvd. Just use Winavi, or dvd santa, they convert xvids real easy and real fast.
I think peeps are being generous on this one.
V = 7 - OK but too blurry for an 8
A = 6 - Not that good. The bass is high and quite often drowns out the dialogue.
M = ? - Got pissed off with the bass and decided to wait for a better release (If one comes along!).
Thanks for the release maVen and who gives a fuck what format it's in? Keep up the good work!
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is this copy missing some of the film? it seemed to end suddenly and im sure there is a scene with a woman either cutting her finger off or getting them cut off that i never seen
Definately a Cam not a TS. Can hear coughing in places. Anyhow it doesn't really matter as i am a great fan of Maven for excellent quality of releases. They always get it right. I am also in favor of them of just releasing xvids, makes total sense to me. Smaller file, saves bandwidth. Encoding is straightforward, its at least you can do since Maven has done all the hardwork, and as pointed out already xvid playable players are widely available and cheap. Thanks again Maven for a fantastic and quick release .
As for film, much prefered first one, as the ending was the best i seen in a long time in a film. With Saw ii you dont really get the excellent twist in the ending as in Saw i. But was enjoyable anyways.
Now for ratings
V - 8 TS or not its still very good
A - 6 A bit disappointed, hollow in places. (Maven have released much better quality in the past) But heck i aint gonna knocked them cos of the effort they go through for us
M - 6 Saw i had a much better ending.
Once again thanks for a top release Maven
nice release maven xvid is the way to go.
standalone players made by phillips are $80 US at Kmart.
not a bad release but not Mavens best
7, 9, 8
Whats all the fuss about what format its in? I don't care if its Xvid/Divx VCD SVCD DVD WMV etc.. I'm happy with a high quality release thats watchable(new word) and FREE. Buy a freakin player that plays everthing. The time and energy you spent learning how to convert every format to DVD standalone could have easily been spent sellin girl scout cookies to come up with the measly 60 bucks for a decent player. Stop bitchin so damn much. Some of you think that the people who release this films actually give a shit what you think. Appreciate the fact that you are benefiting (For Free) from the hard work of others much more talented and motivated than yourself and you have the privledge to comment and discuss the quality of their releases on this forum.
V= 8
A= 7
M= 7 a lot better than expected
i have not seen the video yet, but all I want to say is how the fuck do you people get the idea this is free for anyone? You got to pay for your online internet service to get here to read the comments, then you need to have your internet service to downlaod the damn movie. Unless someone has 100% free internet service and then get this movie, there is no way in reality this is free. And if it is so damn much trouble to convert the file then watch it on your pc, stop the damn bitching and give some comments on the video it's self. No one comes to these reviews for bitching about conversions, they want to know about the video's quality.
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I just used Nerovision Express to convert this Xvid to DVD...Only noticed the audio was a little hot and some small popping in the sound because of it...
Xvid's are better than SVCD for the simple reason is that xvid is mp4 written code while SVCD are less quality mpeg2...Technically, you're down-coding an xvid to mpeg then creating vob files for DVD compliance...
You people bitching about standalone or not are just too lazy or stupid to know how to keep the audio in sync or what???
Video 9.0...No real problems, just a little dark...
Audio 6.5...Popping after conversion but the original is fine if you're gonna watch on the PC or a standalone...
Movie 7.0...Trippy Stuff!
could use a custom made subtitle file for this one.... got any?
version (ts rating)
v9
a7
m?
Nice, somebody is finally starting to make XviD-TS
TS-Rating:
Video: 8
Audio: 6 (sounded a bit echoic to me)
Movie: 7 (nice, but almost the same as part 1)
Agree 100% with maVen to ditch SVCD/VCD. For too long now SVCD has been the standard format for most releases, problem is it only works well if you have a 4:3 TV set, and I don't know many people at all that still have 4:3 sets. Sure they are ok on the pc, but then you would just use XviD anyway. As I recode all the movies to DVDR anyway it matters little to me, but I guess it is still better quality.
Anyway,
for a TS.
video: 8 - nice and clear
sound: 7 - a little "hollow" sounding, sounds like they had a very hissy source and had to filter heavily
movie: havnt seen, might later
Good release, sound was a bit naff in places but still good.
Video: 7 (bit blurry in places).
Audio: 6 (bit CAM-ish in places).
Movie: 6
Everyone talking about converting xvid to dvd needs to invest in a modded xbox. Its like $150 for the xbox and modding it is simple as hell now. Then you just hook the xbox up to your network and stream all of your downloads through it onto your tv.
Loved this release except for the audio. It need to be nuked for being a cam tho. Im serious guys, its a cam. Take a look at the last few seconds where it goes silent.
V=9 -- amazing for a telesync
A=5 -- as a telesync (which its a cam)
M=8 -- pretty good, lacked the view and direction of 1st.
Our Kitty and me good self reckon this is the cult movie thing for the fiture. maVen get it sorted again, filter etc etc etc
V:9 for a cam source this is really well cleaned up. The mirky atmosphere took the gory edge off it for her.
A:8 ermmm shes heard worse. For me I gave it a 5 the jury is still out on it being direct
M:10 SAW RULED BEFORE THIS RULED. A worthy sequel. Play the game!
Hmmm... just heard the whole thing. Occasional pops get annoying after a while, but about coughing, well if the idea is that the gas that is pumped into the rooms makes them cough up blood (dont think thats a spoiler as it is pretty clear all the way through) I am pretty sure then the coughing is actually part of the film.
Just watched the first and second ones. Both movies where very, evry strong. This one more gory than the first, but not to the extent it makes the movie hard to watch. Defiinatly more thriller than horror.
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but about coughing, well if the idea is that the gas that is pumped into the rooms makes them cough up blood (dont think thats a spoiler as it is pretty clear all the way through) I am pretty sure then the coughing is actually part of the film.
v - 7 (a little bit dark, even though i know the movie is dark)
a - 8 (clear, but not clear enough)
m - 7 not that good, ending was okay i guess
saw 2 xvid telesync maven
quality is ok, evrybody is rating this as a dam dvd screener.
video is a bit dark, audio is not direct, hollow. you can hear someone caughing at times during the movie. audio bothered me the most. video is a TS not a DVDSCR rate as what it is, when the screener does come out everyone will rate it the same or lower.
rating system doesnt seem to work around here.
V:6
A:4
M:8
rated as a TS.
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i watched this movie last night,i am sorry to slag off something that is free,and that has taken up someones valuable time to produce,but the quality is rubbish,the video is almost a total wash out,and the audio is so mummbled you need to concentrate so hard it makes your brain hurt.are people giving 9's just because its maven,if so stop lying to yourself's and the rest of us 5/4/8
DIVX is by far the best format
Why are people so confused about DIVX and playing in there players...if you use Nero Vision it converts to a TS folder in about 1.2-1.5 hours...and its done...burn to a dvd and it will play on any player new or old...if all these wankers would realize the smaller download files required everyone would post in this format..which is about 98% of what I go after these days. Excuse the rant but I was reading some of these posts and had to say something.
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Conerning the burning to DVD To watch on a player:
A suggestion, it is ALOT better to grab a Xvid / DivX capable, you can chuck about 6 700mb XviD movies on the DVD as a data file, and just select what you want to play. Forget encoding
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Originally posted by KOLZ
i have not seen the video yet, but all I want to say is how the fuck do you people get the idea this is free for anyone? You got to pay for your online internet service to get here to read the comments, then you need to have your internet service to downlaod the damn movie. Unless someone has 100% free internet service and then get this movie, there is no way in reality this is free. And if it is so damn much trouble to convert the file then watch it on your pc, stop the damn bitching and give some comments on the video it's self. No one comes to these reviews for bitching about conversions, they want to know about the video's quality.
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have to agree I think this is being slightly over rated on the video front even for a TS
imo
v6/a6/m? not watched all yet waiting on a better version
and yes I know its free and I'm not bitching just commenting on the quality
thanks maven great release
8/7/8
quote:3 things you must remember.
Originally posted by BiggD23
already posted on quality above...but i couldn't resist replying to this. as i said before, there is coughing in literally the first scene in the movie...right after the puppet says "hello michael." right at 1 minute 53 seconds. way way way before anything with the gas happens.
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just a quick note
subs for this one in many languages: www.rdwsubs.com
video 8.5, audio 6, film - 9
lots of bass, so i turned down my subwoofer, but you can make out what the actors say in some bits due to background noise, hoping for some direct audio to go with a nice tc soon.
Just adding my two cents after finally finding a spare couple of hours to watch this masterpiece of scripture.
Video - Lovely stuff, you cant beat MaVeN. Ass kissing or not they know what they are doing. The picture isn't perfect a little dark around the edges but the camera is held still throughout. Nice colours, no major dulling in effect.
Audio - pretty good, perhaps not as clear as some of their previous stuff but most definately audible, as for the coughing issue, get over it - if there was indeed any coughing it is barely noticeable. All in sync unlike the VCD rls'.
Movie - another chapter of the Jigsaw's game, and yet further twists to keep you on the edge of your seat! Truly complelling viewing. IMO much more violent and bloody than the first and perhaps that rarest of things........a sequel that outdoes its original.....
8.5/8/10!!
Just to add on the NFO....damn right Maven tell it like it is, thanks for the accurate labelling as always.
8 good vid for a dark film
5 audio a little dull and hissy
9 thought it was a very good sequel
8 good video quality
8 audio was clear
6 not as good over the original & a very corney ending
great release im watching it on my dvd player right now. looks fantastic.
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