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grabbed sample as soon as pred. stable tripod cam, very hollow sound, couldn't tell whether it was mislabled cam from sample. Vid was pretty dark in some places but maybe better if there was less light in my room. subs in chinese not too annoying.
6/5/?
- also wondering why it is 97mins when cinema release where i live is 130mins.
looking at the size of the cds it would seem that the nfo is wrong in time, as 1200mb + in vcd is 2hrs+ 
just watched sample, ok video and audio 6/7/?
pretty good for a first title release (except those damn subs, but oh well). 6/6/?. heres an interesting note. i work at a movie theatre, and in our computer we have x2 as being 2 1/2 hours long...in the nfo it has x2 just over 1 1/2 hours...so im not quite sure what the story is there.
-jmur
Blah. Mislabeled CAM. Dark pic (although pretty clear with no blurring, mozaicing or artifacts), subs are annoying embedded on the bottom 1/4 of the pic.
Audio is hollow as hell. I'll dl it now to watch tonight, but will hold off burning it incase something else comes along.
5/4/7
EDIT: Watched it all now. DEFINITE CAM, audience laughter can be heard a few times. Good stuff though and a good movie if a little long. 
video is ok, sound is very sucky
6/4/?
Mislabeled CAM
as for the eso release... pic is very dark and the sound sucks
5/3/10
mislabelled cam
the pic is ok bit dark but yes the subs look annoying
this was capped last night so im guessing
uti? today?
Vid's ok = 6
Sound very muffled but hearable = 5
Movie = ?
Gonnawatch it later.
Congrats ESO for nailing the first watchable release of this biggie. Subs mean NOTHING to me-- counters and scrolling warnings are far more intrusive than Chinese (?) subtitles. THANKS!!!!
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Originally posted by jmur
pretty good for a first title release (except those damn subs, but oh well). 6/6/?. heres an interesting note. i work at a movie theatre, and in our computer we have x2 as being 2 1/2 hours long...in the nfo it has x2 just over 1 1/2 hours...so im not quite sure what the story is there.
-jmur
Some very fussy people out there .. judging from the sample I think this is a good realease and I'm looking forward to watching it .. who cares about subs!! I've seen a lot worse without them getting good scores
looks pretty fine for a first release.
Nice early release ESO. Though I won't be grabbing this release since the pic is a little too dark and the audio is much too cammy for a movie such as this. 5/4/?
6/6/8
lol, funny movie, nice ending, wait of part 3
Watched sample, watchable but sound is below average. Saw this at the movies couple of days ago, it rocks. Ill hold out for a better rls of this tho.......Bring on RELOADED!!!!!!
Tolerable video quality, though a bit dark. Horrible Audio, definately a Cam, and not a direct audio source. Subs are a minor annoyance, but at least the subs don't block out a quarter of the screen with a black background, they're just overlayed on the picture. Props on a quick release, lots of people will be all over this, but I think I'll hold out for something with better audio. 6/3/?.
k
Well this is pretty bad overall quality
5/4/?
I wont be downloading any rls of this movie i will be paying to watch in theatres this is the kind of movie that any rls other then a dvd would be worthless watching its a must see theatre movie
To the first post Star..its probably missing scenes..a few eso's releases have been missing chunks of movie
quality is shite..its a cam not a TS.
sound is very hollow as stated before
video is dark also stated before by many others
4/3/?
If you dont go see this in the theater then you're sad
and to Hadu..
#1 WAIT until you reply posts..stop hitting submit more than once
#2 how u voting 9 on the movie if you havent seen it in the theaters yet?
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6/4/?
pic seems pretty decent from what i can tell
yes a little on the dark side but watchable imho
sound aint to clever cammy n echoey
but hey
X MEN 2 BABBBYYYYYYYYYY
I just watched the whole movie. And no..i dont wanna goi to the theater;..bought this pc with my cinemamoney 
I think it's a veryy good qual for a first release. Ofcourse it's not all excelent but what u guys think;..first rls would be dvdrip?
I remember the first rls of latest 007 and that was reall garbage. This is viewable and for those who cant wait;..watch it.
6/5,5/9
Well I'm not Fussy.I'm in the UK where this is released tomorrow and will be glad to watch it a day before most.Now for the sample-Picture i am amazed by,looks a little dark but still impressive.Subs don't mean sh** to me.The Sound is a little hollow but then what the hey!.Thanks ESOTERIC,first release and a fairly good one at that.
good enough to watch, and finally get the anticipation outta my system, i'll wait to see CTP's attempt to burn it though...
5/5/?
must be a CAM but neways 6/5/??
Just got back from the cinema and for all the fans of part 1 this is (of course) a must see 
but IF you are a real fan go to the theatre and pay a few bucks because it's worth theatre quality instead of this 
still a good job on a first release, subs are not a big problem, i think the detail is, if you see the handshake of Wolverine in the sample, he got an icy hand there by the guy, and that was very nice in the cinema but you almost can't see it in this kinda TS at all, so for the details, go to the theatre, if you're just an eager guy who wants to see this for free asap, watch this 
6/5/8
Mostly all been said, pic is dark, but not too bad aside from the subs
audio is definitelly not from an external source, it's echoy, and mostly coming from left channel.
5/4/?
6/5/?... Sample looks pretty clear but kinda dark sounds like a cam really hollow. Getting cd1 now so imma prolly watch it tonight but ill wait to burn it cuz there will be a better release soon...
Only watched CD1 so far, but there seems to be a chunk missing @ around halfway thru the CD
this is not that bad of a rls jus mislabled cam
video is pretty clean very very watchable jus a tad dark
audio on the other and is very hollow and loud but hey its a pre and i wanna see this bad saw part 1 for the first time last night and i gotta have more thanx eso
7/5/cant wait ??
after watching about 20 minutes on the standalone there is some blurry parts then it gets sharp but the audio sounds reallly good on my tv cant even tell its a cam no audience noise jus a little loud
so far so good
7/7/good so far
overall aight movie 7/7/7 ......and yes the movie is all there no parts missing
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Originally posted by deftones6
How are you rating the video and audio without actually having the movie????
picture does look quite good, its nice and sharp despite some darkness to it. audio however ruins the release
7/4/-
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hm i found the quality not so great, the video is blurry and not really sharp. sound is hollow. i'll watch it in the cinema this weekend 
watched the first 10 min or so 
Real nice quality for an early release, granted its only pre in USA. It is a little dark, but on the TV, it looks fine, you can still see eveyrthing. the audio is hollow, but watchable by far. 
I dont know why everyone is saying the quality sucks?
it looks "OK" to me. its descent. The movie is just full of "dark" scenes.
7/6/X
Its Ok and watchable.Nice speed on rls.
instead of everyone saying exactly the same can we get a confirm on weather bits are missing or not? cheers.
not bad rls eso, video is quite good, just a bit too dark. audio is somehow cammish
6,5/4/?
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please give me a fucking break...!
alright first of all pic is decent, sound is unbareable imo... next
im soo sick of you people saying TCF or CENTROPY release this pleease... shut up, don't any of you people believe in seeing a movie like this or matrix reloaded, I for one sure do, watching it from a ts or cam ruins it... even a screener isnt good enough for a movie of this nature, so please quit complaining or leave it to your self... thanx 
(Not a flame, just a plea to quit this....)
:: Yes, people keep your desires for other groups to release something to yourselves. It has no bearing on the release at hand, and it sounds very infantile. -K::
well, came home from school and grabbed this.. Looks alright.. Pic is like a 6.5.. sound is hollow.. maybe i can fix on TV.. little let treble more bass..
.. good job..
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Good job eso on this release.. the video is ok audio i really dont like but its still audible. (video seems good a little dark.. but if brightend through overlay option from your vid card it helps it out, Audio a little muffled and hollow sometimes in a action sequnce and talking its hard to understand what the last few words were spoken) Subs do not bother me @ all.
Okay i would just like to say some things about posters on here. It really sounds weak when everyone is begging for other groups to release this. This is eso release . they did it first . im sure it will not be the best one but its better then most of you people on this board who are begging for another release from another group can do.
Another thing if i may... the people who just say the QUALITY SUCKS OR TERRIBLE SHIT BLAH BLAH or even tell a group to quit, you dudes are lame... because it does nothing for this board its not telling others whats wrong with the movie .. or why you didnt like it , its just you flaming away @ a release and this really makes you look worse then anything you are trying to flame.
Sorry for the long post people.. Just wanted to get that out of my system.
ok first Im not really in to the Xmen movies, first one was bad IMO.. but I dl'd this just to test
Sound was ok "despite the hollowness people reported" it was dealable. Quality was great for a "CAM" ...
i say 6/4/6.
My only dispute is that they say TS, TS my ass.. Im not exactly deep in to this scene, but I was under the impression TS (Telesync) meant Great Audio.
They should have left this at CAM and im sure the rating would have been higher.
AWESOME PRE! Good job esoteric
V- 6
A - 7
Movie - 10
grabbed the sample.the picture apart from being dark has good colours and definition not too grainy.sound is clean enough to watch but extreemly hollow maybe running sound through hifi and equilizer might beef it up abit.subtitles are not too annoying seen a lot of worse cams posted . 6/4/* will have to grab it for now.
update watching at minute if you turn your brilliance up slightly picture quite ok .hollow sound not too anoying the few minutes of blur in the early part of cd1 is dissapointing but brief.
i think this rel sucks pictúre 4 sound 4 early ts sucks like must other Ts do ....
i dont mind the sub but i mind the sound it makes you crazy.. and so the picture
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AWESOME PRE! Good job esoteric
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Damn pic looks good for a frigin pre, if ctp released the same exact release people would be rating this 8+, ah well. whatever, no like any of the big budget movies this summer will be worth watching home with 4 or 5 people, all should be watched with a full theatre
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Sound is bad. Why can't groups just label honestly? Telesync SHOULD be direct audio source and this blatantly isn't. Video is average, it isn't anything special but considering the fact this is an early release, this aint bad. Fact is, however, as with LOTR, there's likely to be 101 releases of this (proper after proper).
This would be a good release for any other film, however, with blockbuster films people expect quality and what's "average" for any other film just isn't good enough for the major releases.
I hope that post makes sense, cos I've just been to see this film in the theater followed by several J.D and cokes!
6/3/9
this release is very good, i can't believe that it is from esoteric. the quality is great and the sound isnt horrible.
8/7/? have not watched it yet
Just watched this sucker. The video wasn't too bad. it was pretty clear just a little pixalated during some action scenes. not too bad though. the audio is horrible. it sounds like i'm in a Hall or a Tunnel.
sound's like they recorded the sound outside the theatre. gotta love the subtitles though! :-D
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It Aint PRE? Is It
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6/4/? I Am Going 2 See It 2morrow @ The Cinema I Will Rate The Film Then

X MEN
NICE PIC !!! SOUND NOT TOO BAD ! GO'S BLURRY FOR ABOUT 5MINS , 10MINS INTO THE FILM , BUT FINE AFTER THAT 
Just downloaded it, its just like the recent spate of silver cam releases...
damn ESOTERIC....MISLABEL!!! again....can't they just label it properly....a waste of my time downloading this crap...
It's ok...for a cam.
A little dark.
The sound is kinda annoying.
Downloaded it but I'll wait with watching it until tomorrow night...some better release will hopefully pop up before then..
6 / 3 / ?
7/6/going to watch it tommorow
Seems very watchable, sound is hollow but not bad, video is better then what I expected. Still seems a bit dark in some parts.
Good release.
Edit: has to be a cam, you can hear people in the background sometimes.
Well from viewing the sample, I can say the pic is definitely watchable. Unfortunately the sound is very "tinny" and is kinda hard to make out.
I'd wait til something better comes along.
Decent for a cam
The first 5 minutes are out of focus then it clears up, hollow sound but not bad for a Cam definately not TS in my book 6/5/8 video a little dark at time some pixelation, hollow sound. Great flick.
I'm usualy not very inpressed but by the sample this looks to be a very good copy. Been waiting long to see this one and now I get lucky and get a good copy. Not the best i've seen but great for an early release. 8/7/? <-- But hopefully a 10..
Audio isn't that bad, it has a cam sound (lacking bass & a bit 'echo-ish'), but at least its clear, and youre not stuggling to understand words. (echo-ish as in hollow-sounding)
And the video is good, except the 5min blurry part, it seems pretty stable and straight/centered, not too pixelated in the high motion scenes, seems a little dark.
This isnt a bad release at all, I wouldnt say its kick-ass though either. I didn't really like X-Men that much (I watched the subbed cam of that when it was in theatres, glad I saved my $9) so this release is good enough for me, if it were Matrix2, or SW ep3, or LOTR3, and this quality, I wouldnt get it, but hey, its only X2!
Vid:7 Aud:5
Watched cd1 so far,
And by Cam Standards
8/7/-
I personally think it is very well watchable, video is perfectly centered, and only a few times did I notice it moving (which was only slight, and could only really be noticed by the sound.)
For a cam, the audio is quite good. No laughing or whatnot, just the general theater hallow-ness, but very much listenable.
Movie is pretty good thus far too. Gonna go watch the rest of it now.
If you want to see this film and a lot of you seem to want to. I would sugest going to the cinema I went last night and its worth the 5 pounds.
They have those messages up now warning about recording equipment.lol very amusing. oh err 4/2/8 from the sample
Someone mentioned this one is missing some scenes? Is this true?
Well, I'm in England so it'll be nice to see it before most of my mates, I've currently got 3hrs left of the download so I can't wait to see it.
I'll be putting it on my Sony Wega Widescreen TV so hopefully that'll help a bit, plus I can edit all the audio and I might even re wire my Stereo a bit so I can use the graphic to mix things up a bit. I'm just hoping it's watchable.
I'll edit my post when I've seen it with a rating.
EDIT: I just saw the movie and I'd give it 6.5 for picture, 6 for sound (sound was fine for me, I didn't get the problems some of you did, and no people laughing) and I'd give the film an 8.
The film does cut off in places which sucks and the end cuts off, but hey, not bad overall.
Video quality seems good for the most part, except for the occasional slip out of focus, for instance early in the movie, wolverine is reading some type of writing on a stone and you cant even read it since it was out of focus during that point, but it slips back into focus after awhile, dont know how it goes for cd2 since im still at 1. like what was said above sound is coming from mostly the left side, not a direct source but still you can listen to what is going on. Props on the nice pre release tho, nice try.
6/3/?
quote:it would appear that way... certin parts have these really abrupt cuts, but from my own personal judgement... nothing important could have happened between the parts
Originally posted by Kunio-Kun
Someone mentioned this one is missing some scenes? Is this true?
FYI
Disc 1 runtime = 1.01.13
Disc 2 runtime = 1.01.42 Movie ends very abruptly as soon as credits start to roll so i can't see that there's very much missing from this release if anything at all..
Pic is reasonable if you turn up the brightness, sound bearable, movie about the same as the first, good but could have been so much better.
6/5/7.5
Yeah it looks like the transition from cd1 to cd 2 is missing a lil bit
and the ending i'm curious to know if maybe there is a slight teaser about the next xmen :/
the good scenes in the movie are all too dark other then the very rare chances that you can hear the audience its pretty good
5.5/6.5/8
Pretty good
I thought this release was well done. Yea sound was a bit hollow, and the video was dark in some spots. But definitly watchable. For those "L33t" ppl that are above CAMS this one is worth the d/l if you want to see it. 6/6/7
watched the sample. very viewable, as long as you dont make it full screen. 6/5/?
I'd agree with those who say that this is the type of movie that deserves to be seen on the big screen. The special effects should be experienced, and will be ruined by watching it on a small tiny screen.
I saw this movie in the cinema last night, and then i watched the cam that i downloaded cos i like the film.
It is a really good cam, right up there with UTi's quality. The first cd DOES however have some cuts in it, somewhere round where the house is getting attacked, and the metal guy is talking to that nasty bloke with the crazy ass son. And there is a bit lost between the two disks. I would put a GUESSTIMATE at about 5-10 mins missing from the film, but nothing important is lost.
The cam itself is a bit dark, but i thought the audio was ok myself, only one or two times in the movie where i was straining to hear a word.
I gave this a 6-6-8.
S.
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can someone explain what x/x/x stands for, i know ones audio but what order are the marks out of ten?
e.g audio/video/?
just watched the whole thing. real nice quality. vid is real clear. goes a lil blurry at the beginning but thats not a big deal. sound is good for a cam. if it was better sound and no subs.... it would be comparable to a good centropy rls. def watchable
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can someone explain what x/x/x stands for, i know ones audio but what order are the marks out of ten?
e.g audio/video/?
Got this today. Not bad on the video, not bad at all(7). Audio, like they said, is hollow(5). Pretty good sequel(9). Definately worth the price of a ticket.My ticket is free 'cause I got X-Men 1.5, which came with a free ticket to Daredevil or X2. Good thing I didn't waste it on DD. I can't tell you about the missing scenes.
Anyway, my 2 cents
bush-x
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could we have him torched in the sequel?
Well as a Birt who really isnt a fan of this x men thing but who downloaded and watched it cos it was raining...
Missing scenes? maybe so at the end of cd1 / start of 2 but cant think its much and if there are missing bits elsewhere then there didnt seem to be any gaping plot lines to me, apart from the usual...
Pic is dark but seems a dark movie, ran it through tmpgenc to lighten it up and looks nice, nice pic, sound bit hollow but have heard much worse...
Sure there will be better but for now this is no bad effort.
6/5/6
I had to sign up here just to say that this movie and this release is really very good, despite what many have said here...
I am still trying to figure out where the sound was 'hollow'. It obviously wasn't perfect, but for a CAM this release is damn near perfect.
The video skips at one point in the movie though (this may be my own doing), but it really seemed as if about 20 seconds of movie was cut out. It's nothing that really detracts from understanding the movie at all though. The video didn't seem to be 'dark' or anything either.
The movie, of course, fuckin rocks hardcore. MUCH better than the first one.
More Mystique. Yum. Next movie needs to just revolve around her naked blue ass. heheh
8/7/9
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EDIT: I just saw the movie and I'd give it 6.5 for picture, 6 for sound (sound was fine for me, I didn't get the problems some of you did, and no people laughing) and I'd give the film an 8.
The film does cut off in places which sucks and the end cuts off, but hey, not bad overall.
just watched it man i did not think it would be worse than the first one o well 6/5/3
good cam
VERY watchable cam for sure! awesome movie also.
6/5/8
wow good job
I watched this movie yesterday and it was amazing! better than the first one! Quality was OK, sharp but blurry in the first 5-7 mins audio goes to your left speaker unless u play it on TV overall it was GREAAAt.
For a cam:
8./6/8.5
wow good job
I watched this movie yesterday and it was amazing! better than the first one! Quality was OK, sharp but blurry in the first 5-7 mins audio goes to your left speaker unless u play it on TV overall it was GREAAAt.
For a cam:
8./6/8.5
This is a very good release for a cam, just as good as UTi's (if not better if it wasn't for those damn subs).
8/7/?
the subs are fine. i just didnt like the blurryness. like in the beginning when wolverine goes to that thing with the plate and you cant read it. the movie is light in some parts and dark in others. sound is holly but understandable except in some parts. i needed this movie bad. thanks. it was kind of dissapointing tho. 6/6/6
I think this release looked really good considering that it was out a day before release. I didnt really have any problems with it except that a couple minor scenes are cut out and the sound was a little hollow but all in all I think it was really good. Oh and the movie kicked ass too :-D
It looks pretty good but it's a tab bit dark.
8/6/8
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this rls should have been nuked and never been put on the net since it's missing hella scienes n shit i just saw the movie yesterday and i saw this and a bunch of stuff was missing!
Ya scene's are missing....Audio sucks(gotta turn it up hella loud) video is very dark in some times and also blury for about 6 min in the begging which was by far the best part.Love the first one but this one was not up to standard....Not a whole lot of action. Had some funny lines but would have enjoyed more action..The teleporters was a execllent effect thow, that also was a major part of the film....Dissapointed that they had to make it worse then the first but mabye it will be like a LOTR type deal and x-3 will be a all out war...now that would make the price of my ticket worth it.
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The video wasn't all that bad, except for fight scenes in the dark, was hard to see what was going on, and the sound was alright, with the exception of a few laughs here and their. The movie was awesome.
7/6/8
and X400, the ending was sort of a teaser to let all the people who had watched the cartoon know that Jean Gray will become Phoenix, one of the big parts of the cartoon 
I hope to god they don't do the Phoenix storyline, intergalactic battles just wouldn't work in this story!
Anyway, I know it's not technically about THIS release but I'm shocked that there haven't been more releases. At least an unsubbed ts. Guess the warning they put on really has had an effect!
I really liked this movie! All kinds of subplots spilled from the X1. The Magneto's escape scene kicked ass!
The video quality was not so hot. There's 4½ minutes out of focus in the beginning which hurt the White House scene a bit. Compression effect wasn't too bad, but there's that slight jump in the pixels every single second. A couple of skips too, as when Magneto and Charles are together in the plastic cell. Audio sounded alright if you can get past the reverb. 6/6/8
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I hope to god they don't do the Phoenix storyline, intergalactic battles just wouldn't work in this story!
Anyway, I know it's not technically about THIS release but I'm shocked that there haven't been more releases. At least an unsubbed ts. Guess the warning they put on really has had an effect!
its a ok copy ill give it a 5/6/i hope it good
blurry, but at least there's more of the pic than the CTP rel that came later
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