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Posted by tr1pp1n on 05-19-2005 01:52 AM:

ummm, this aint a screener, seeing as lucas doesnt release screeners...

ar is fine, the black bar is fuckin gigantic though

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Posted by lorddusty on 05-19-2005 01:53 AM:

Uhh notice how it's a workprint and it looks quite nice, seen nukes for bad AR but if it's off its not by much.


Posted by Cable Boy on 05-19-2005 01:53 AM:

Wow so far it shows to be legit. Quality looks to be that of a screener almost except the a/ratio. 1.5GB = DVDR hmm ill know in 5 more minutes


Posted by Cable Boy on 05-19-2005 01:58 AM:

i have the sample shows to be, very nice quality indeed. Sample takes places towards end where Obi and Yoda see the Jedi's killed in the temple


Posted by Freeder on 05-19-2005 01:59 AM:

This is indeed legit.

Should have been released as S/VCD, but too late now...

Two big ass counters across the top (as stated in .nfo), but if you really want an early look, then it isn't that big a deal.

Quality is watchable, audio is very good and video is a little... whats the word... 'not quite right'. The AR is slightly off as well, but again, not too bad if you just want to be 'the first' to say you've seen it.

Won't bother rating, but it is watchable and quite legit. Enjoy.

-Uncle Freeder


Posted by kalvaitis007 on 05-19-2005 02:00 AM:


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Posted by Kick on 05-19-2005 02:01 AM:

Ok this is not a screener but is def a finished work print its not fake and yes its been nuked!!! but i feel un fairly as they even state in there nfo if it aint a screener its a workprint lol y nuke them if they tell u it is> beyond me anyways the quality is nice for a workprint and very very watchable even thou them 2 damn massive timers still gonna see it before the movies hehehehe

Also rumours have it this been around for a while no one knows for sure anyways i gonna sit back and enjoy the show!!!

6/8/???

rating based on workprint!


Posted by Ch1c0 on 05-19-2005 02:06 AM:

^^ those jpgs make it look better than it really is...

either way its still worth going to see in theatre! which i plan on w/ in the next week.

i wonder whats missing in the WP...


Posted by rockford on 05-19-2005 02:11 AM:

This IS a legit WORKPRINT and not too shabby at that. I do NOT believe, however, that "ViSA" has anything to do with this release whatsoever. Exact same ISO has been floatin' around all day as a non-scene release. Gotta give ViSA props though for being the first to steal this incredible release!

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Posted by Oor on 05-19-2005 02:12 AM:

nukeee
i do appreciate the early release of this, but its two vobs, one thats 5 mins and another thats 13. They may as well include the word Cocktease in the rls name.


Posted by cartoon master on 05-19-2005 02:19 AM:

http://img263.echo.cx/img263/9881/sw3am.png

http://img265.echo.cx/img265/4295/sith18yn.jpg

the sample is flooding around about hours

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Posted by justgeoff on 05-19-2005 02:25 AM:

HAHHAHHHAHAA

It's NUKED....

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Posted by Bohagon on 05-19-2005 02:29 AM:

The AR is kinda crappy, but I can't complain. For what it is (and when it is)... nuked, unnuked, whatever... it's real, and it's the whole thing.

8/8/_

haven't watched the whole thing yet (obviously) but I will

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Posted by Dremy on 05-19-2005 02:29 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by rockford
This IS a legit WORKPRINT and not too shabby at that. I do NOT believe, however, that "ViSA" has anything to do with this release whatsoever. Exact same ISO has been floatin' around all day as a non-scene release. Gotta give ViSA props though for being the first to steal this incredible release!

I believe this to be the case as well since I downloaded a copy that didn't have a group tag, and the aspect ratio is really really bad on it. my guess is, based on comments here, that ViSA got a hold of the non-scene release, fixed the AR and rereleased it.


Posted by CoWs` on 05-19-2005 02:35 AM:

bad ar/pdvd


Posted by Jpizzle on 05-19-2005 02:37 AM:

i use divx player, just change the resolution to 16:9 looks fine


Posted by Lagwagon420 on 05-19-2005 02:51 AM:

Im told the workprint was missing quite a piece in the middle. Any one can compare running times?


Posted by BaDHellhound on 05-19-2005 03:00 AM:

This was stolen by the scene from a p2p site, but wat the hell its a good copy and nice to see it about so early, just a shame credit couldnt be given where credits due in the nfo.

timer bar is annoying but bearable

kudos to the pirates. you know who you are!

8/8/8


Posted by Horton on 05-19-2005 03:04 AM:

Rar it, burn to a few cd's, transport to a buddies dvd burner, copy all rar's off cd's, extract, burn


Posted by cartoon master on 05-19-2005 03:09 AM:

its only for collector dont ruin you that movie.
after watching it in cinema i looking this version , i love wps.

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Posted by SkullWolf on 05-19-2005 03:18 AM:

It is REALLY easy to use IFOEdit to change the aspect ratio to 16:9 when you play it in a DVD player.

Just thought I'd let everyone know.


Posted by Redemption1980 on 05-19-2005 03:22 AM:

This is actually quite nice, pic is very watchable, and sound is fine although not up to Star Wars quality, and the timer is annoying, but you could still watch it.

This is mpeg2 320x240 30fps at a CBR of 1.15mbps, with 224mp2 sound, so in other words its a mpeg2 VCD on a DVD.

If you dont have a DVD Burner, then just just extract the mpeg, chop it in half and burn it onto 2CD's as a Non-Standard VCD, should play on most players.

7/7/?


Posted by kalvaitis007 on 05-19-2005 03:34 AM:

I'm going to make this VERY SIMPLE. Post on the quality of this release, ONLY or you get banned.

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Posted by Anno on 05-19-2005 03:41 AM:

Big timers but nice early release, wait till after seen at theatre b4 watching this though, looks decent though


Posted by weedchemist on 05-19-2005 04:02 AM:

wow lucas will be mad

ok finally getting the movie and the sample was quite impressive for a workprint (not too many of them now-a-days) The audio well its less than impressive but it works and its clear enough. The video tho is nice for a WP, the wps i remember off the top are hulk, kill bill and soul plane (in order) all very welcome rls's, this is better than hulk, ill say its on line with the last 2 rls, (amazingly 2 of the mentioned WP rlsd on p2p) the last 2 were good for what they were. The negative is of course the counters but i dont grade down on what the groups cant control just what they can...
with this said so far i give it a 8/6/? as a WP not compared to anything other than the few WPs Ive seen - still would love the mib wps with stand ins instead of cgi (but anyway)
whoever rlsd this i bet will feel the wrath because of it, you thought the hulk dude got in trouble, woo hoo... but THANKS ALOT!! Not a true SW fan but more a WP fan altho i planned to get this cuz natalie portman is a hottie, I just didnt expect it before tomorrow. Supplier CONGRATS hope u dont get in trouble and can keep up future pre rls's and congrats to a small group for pre'ing this for everyone else, if you never rls again you will be remembered for this!


:: FINALLY WATCHED THE FULL RLS AND WOW THAT WAS A FANTASTIC MOVIE! I MIGHT ACTUALLY WATCH THE ORIGINALS ALL THE WAY THROUGH! PLEASE dont cry about the encoding, This is more than likely 1st gen vhs wp, now i remember that people were mad at scr as svcd because of vhs source, now truthfully id say since whoever wouldve had to use a capture card. shoulda just went to hi qual dvd, but you dont get everything you want from a pre! And in my eyes a damn fine one with fix applied! it was rushed out to trickle down without reencoding from the P2P rls to be scene complient and I cant say I blame them. The capper might be in jail right now for all we know, so I THANK YOU! weird noise spots especially when it goes kind of silent. I say FANTASTIC RLS counters suck and not anyones fault other than lucas himself! REVISED RATING: 8/7/9 (yup a 9! for me to say that about SW is well... not believable to me, def the best from what i can remember)


Posted by President on 05-19-2005 04:52 AM:

It would have been nice if these guys would have consulted with someone who knew a little bit about video conversion and encoding. 29.97 fps with the obligatory duplicate every 5th frame is just stupid.

Picture is as good as you would expect from a worpring, sounds is solid too, but you would have to be absolutely desperate for bragging rights to sit through the whole thing with those massive counters blocking the screen.


Posted by JoshNya on 05-19-2005 04:57 AM:

This is a bad ar vcd made as a DVDR.

Literality...

Size: 1.43 GB (1,537,671,168 bytes)
Menu: None
Type: MPEG1
Bitrate: 1.150 Mbps
Framerate: 29.970 Hz
Resolution: 352x240
Aspect ratio: 4x3
Sound: MPEG Audio
Bitrate: 224 Kbps
Number of channels: 2
Sampling Frequency: 48khz
Sampling Bits: 16
Volume Boost: Off
Quiet Mode: Off

Implementation id: Ulead Systems USA Inc.

Geeze.. and 2 huge counters to boot


Posted by Horton on 05-19-2005 05:02 AM:

http://img268.echo.cx/my.php?image=starwars30vg.jpg

Just a few more wp shots. as a WP VCD, its not bad, pretty good color, the counters are hella annoying tho..

its star wars, its before premier, and its free

8/9/10


Posted by K-FurY on 05-19-2005 05:31 AM:

great quality minus the stretched ar. shame, source is probably awesome, just packaged retardedly, either way very watchable, ill be waiting on a proper as im not a hardcore fan and not really in a rush to see this.

7/9/x


Posted by dontgiveafuck on 05-19-2005 05:31 AM:

based on the sample, the movie is watchable. and the special effects have been added in, though they do look a little amateurish.

now the burning question is whether anything that is in the final theater version has been left out of this workprint.

someone should report back on this....


Posted by qwertyu on 05-19-2005 05:39 AM:

My hats off to ViSA.

Audio: 7
Video:7
Movie: 10


Posted by Vegemite on 05-19-2005 05:41 AM:

Just use Theatertek's aspect ratio control to move the counters out of the picture. Sure, you'll lose some of the picture, but it's a good compromise for distraction free viewing.

Go to Edit in the aspect ratio control and then use the up button to move the counters off the screen.


Posted by weedchemist on 05-19-2005 05:46 AM:

with specs posted...

this couldnt have been much if any better with a higher encoding rate as its really a vcddvd technically. Im sure a (svcd/correct dvd) of this will be out as its a pdvd unless the original was encoded to vcd (dont know why) either way this is a great pre but im sure a TS/TC will improve it in the next few days... just sucks that the 2 groups making the magik now has no need to race just come up with the sexiest rls.. this is a keeper because of the rls category(WP), but better rls will be here, which one has more connects is the question


Posted by directv on 05-19-2005 05:51 AM:

remember when The Passion of the Christ came out and there was like a dozen cams? I thought that was gonna happen again, thank heavens i'm wrong. I think this might be a good enough copy for now. Its definitely a must-have for die hard star wars fans

7/8/7 (not a big fan)

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Posted by Enzomatrx on 05-19-2005 06:08 AM:

timers, bars, whatever. This is how I prefer to watch the third pile of crap in Lucas' abandonment of being a visionary director and pure "moy-chendising".

At least now if I am bored watching it through I can just count the pretty numbers on the timer... The episode 2 bootlegs needed this!

The AR is off of course, but playing on XBMC you can just adjust the AR on the fly, so I'm quite happy with this release based on bits from beginning (as much as I detest what Lucas has done to the series, I still am a movie fan who does not like spoiling it for myself; even for films I could care less about)

So, props to this WP. Is it nuked? Is it stolen? do I care? Nope

It's a very watchable copy of something I will not have to spend any money on.

7/7/X


Posted by Jc100 on 05-19-2005 06:09 AM:

From previewing about 3 rars.. if you take this into tmpgenc, and make it 16:9 it looks fabulous... ii previewed it so no guarantee but from what i saw it will be good. Grabbing it now and will report back.


Posted by lynxthecat on 05-19-2005 06:12 AM:

Great for a first one, even b4 premiere!

Don't bother to repeat what everybody's been saying 'bout bad AR, counters ETC, I don't know if ViSA is the original releaser, due to the facted stated that the WP has been floating out all day in a non-scene standard .ISO (no RAR counts).

Just gotta say at the end: for a movie of this format - LucasArts PROTECTS it wp's and I read somewhere they don't even MAKE screeners - (but that's a bit off-topic). A release in VCDquality (352*288) in this standard, same day or day before premiere, is the reason why I love "The Scene" with all it's Pimpers..

Anyone remember an old "Scene-name" like "1103"? For those who do - that's how long I've been around, and the Pimpin' has been going on ALL TIME!

Vid - 7/Aud -7/WP(MOVIE) - 10!!

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Posted by Zombie Jesus on 05-19-2005 06:49 AM:

The sound is good, the AR is off but that is easily corrected. This is a workprint but I watched the whole thing and it appears that all of the special effects have been added to it. The picture is slightly grainy which is to be expected if it was taken from a vcd source. Also, there are a few times where the movie skips back a second. This could have just been vlc, but it is probably due to a vcd disc change while making the dvdr.
I wasn't expecting much after the first two movies, but I thought this one was good.

for a work print:
7/8/8

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Posted by MiSSiONDVD on 05-19-2005 07:04 AM:

well for a workprint this is'nt bad just a pitty about the bad ar audio is ok but i not complaining
I take my hat of to WP for getting this out
so fast

Video 7
Audio 7


Posted by xiaNaix on 05-19-2005 07:04 AM:

Hmm... I wonder what the source quality of this was and why they released it as a VCD encode on DVD-R. Probably didn't want to rattle too many cages. It's great for a first release, though the res and low bitrate contribute alot of blocks.

7/7/4 (sorry, not a Star Wars fan)


Posted by BLUE-NEO on 05-19-2005 07:08 AM:

No doubt this is simply nice...if I could find a way to make 16:9 it would look great. But I haven't found a way since its in ISO format...

7/9/?

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Posted by HeartOfStone on 05-19-2005 07:15 AM:

Nice release.

8 / 7 or 8 / ?

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Posted by PlasmaWhore on 05-19-2005 07:28 AM:

I have the .iso, and I burned it in Nero, but it's completely out of sync. Should I burn it another way? Other than being so out of sync that it's unwatchable for me it's:

7/1(out of sync)/? haven't watched more than the first 5 minutes.


Posted by corf on 05-19-2005 07:29 AM:

has this been stolen, as from yesterday only one person had it and tuck all day to download of one site.

very bad encoding

Video 7
Audio 7


Posted by VidaGuerra on 05-19-2005 07:39 AM:

ima get it since i'm poor and i've been waiting for this forever and then when better release comes i'll get that too but i give this a 7/7/hopefully 10


Posted by Hanin on 05-19-2005 07:51 AM:

yes... there's the counters... and the ar is slightly off... but the ar can be fixed.... the video is clean enough... and it's out now.... so that's it

8/8/?

having seen the entire thing now... it is overly pixelated in high action scenes... it's way undersized for a dvdr leaving you thinking why they didn't make it a full size and up the bitrate..... still... it is quite watchable and the content of the movie is very good considering EP1 & 2 blew goats....

7/7/9


Posted by AIO on 05-19-2005 08:01 AM:

Nice release and props to VISA wit da quick release. Hope to see future pre's from this group...prob the reason for the nuke is due to all the dunno answers on nfo...not that the bars helped any.

8/8/? (still watching)


Posted by tibby on 05-19-2005 08:34 AM:

If you watch the first few seconds it flashes a few screens that say something along the lines of color timing. Which leads me to believe that this is the finished cut, effects and all. Films aren't usually color timed until they are about to stirike the prints for projection. The AR is definitely stretched. It appears to be a basic 16:9 (1:85) aspect ratio stretched to fit a 4:3 frame. Which leads me to believe whoever encoded this played a raw 16:9 video source (Hmmm...DVD, DV Tape maybe) into a device (recorder or PC) that had a basic 4:3 setting. Sooo... my conclusion is that some schmuck got ahold of this made a quick dump of it and put it back where he/she got it. Well whoever worked to color correct the movie is gonna have lucasfilm breathing down they're neck. The 4:3 to 1:85 is an easy fix. Still I cant wait for a proper AR. 1:85 is not too bad but I may hold out for a proper 2:35 Telecine at least.


Posted by AddNtoX on 05-19-2005 08:50 AM:

someone in some ad agency or something is gonna have a very very very bad fucking day in the morning. When lucasfilm find a leak of this quality has happened heads r gonna roll and it aint gonna be cuz yodas choppin em off either.

Gotta give props to the iron balls on the guy who ripped this

as for the movie i saw it tuesday and i thought it rawked

as for this rls dunno yet i'm still encoding it to the proper aspect ratio from the sample i made as a source and pre theatre id give it a solid 10/10 you couldnt wish for a better source for a movie


Posted by kidkrate001 on 05-19-2005 09:01 AM:

Fuck-Yes
8/8/10(how could it suck?)
big ass timer, egg shaped planets
who cares.
thanks visa


Posted by Arthur Daily on 05-19-2005 09:25 AM:

not bad 6/6/?

but whats with this i see...

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Posted by RussTC3 on 05-19-2005 09:55 AM:

I watched this movie at 12:01AM, was surprised to see it available when I came home (I didn't check before I left).

Judging from the sample 8/8/10.

It's not perfect, but props should be given for getting this out there so quickly.

Plus the AR issues are easy to fix.

This was a great movie, easily better than I & II, and perhaps better than some of the originals.



Posted by geoffbob30 on 05-19-2005 10:27 AM:

nice and early I had to force myself to turn it off as i am going to pic tonight to see it but quality looks good

v/7
a/9
m/8

best of the 3 prequals


Posted by lp0016 on 05-19-2005 10:29 AM:

I just saw the midnight showing. Awesome movie. 7/8/10


Posted by moby008 on 05-19-2005 10:30 AM:

6/6/?


Posted by Buster Hyman on 05-19-2005 10:31 AM:

7V 7A 9M

AR off, no biggie....definately one to save just for novelty.....Star Wars workprint...hell yeah.


Posted by Jc100 on 05-19-2005 10:51 AM:

Use ifoedit.. u can force title menu to be 16:9. Save the IFO and bup file to another place other than folder.. copy and paste them to replace the files in the folder ( as you know this means you had to extract the video_TS folder.. .. i used winrar to get VTS files)... anyhow once u do the above, simply burn movie and on most dvd players and on ur pc ull have 16:9 AR and itll look crisp.. very nice.. except for timers.....


Posted by thebra1n on 05-19-2005 11:03 AM:

pick pick pick

all looks fine to me plays in ws on my tv

video 8 would be 9 but for the time code
audio 8

why whine about the little things, would you have prefered a shitty cam or this pfffffffff


Posted by Moonie on 05-19-2005 11:14 AM:

here's how you can fix the ar with ifoedit:

Click “Open” and browse to the “VIDEO_TS” folder and load “VTS_01_0.IFO” when loaded, in the top window, click on “VTSI_MAT” then in the bottom window, double click on “0000200” a pop-up window will appear where you can change the Aspect Ratio, you should also tick “Automatic Letterboxed”
(Just open each IFO, find any reference to 4:3, and change it to 16:9. You should also select 'Automatic Letterboxed' too. Make sure you save each IFO when your finished.)

8/8/9


Posted by buddha2oo3 on 05-19-2005 11:15 AM:

quote:
Use ifoedit.. u can force title menu to be 16:9. Save the IFO and bup file to another place other than folder.. copy and paste them to replace the files in the folder ( as you know this means you had to extract the video_TS folder.. .. i used winrar to get VTS files)... anyhow once u do the above, simply burn movie and on most dvd players and on ur pc ull have 16:9 AR and itll look crisp.. very nice.. except for timers.....


did the above ... looks real nice on the 21" monitor .. even though it's MPEG1 .. very good considering .. sound isn't too bad, although it's only stereo. Bass rattles a little too much for my liking, but will DEFINATELY do until a 5.1 TC (hint, hint SAOSIN ) or even DVDR is posted .. *cough .. SAOSIN .. do it NTSC for this one -end-cough* lol

The biggest issue I had with this; some of the scenes were repeated (10-15 second parts) .. like the movie would be playing smooth, then suddenly it would repeat a small piece of it .. I thought I was losing it, I thought PowerDVD went nuts .. but it only did it 3 or 4 times throughout the entire duration of the movie ..

Overall rating:

Video: 6 / 10 - (loses marks for initial AR issue / MPEG1 blockiness / huge timers / random repeating; original video source was probably nice to look at.)

Audio 7 / 10 - (loses marks as it's not a digital source to start with, heavy bass-clipping during certain scenes; not that bad considering the source was most likely a video-tape)

Movie 9 / 10 - I was pleasently surprised .. that's all I will say about that

DVD-R 1 / 10 - (lost most marks because this didn't need to be a DVDR in my honest opinion).

Release 10 / 10 - getting it 4 hours before the premiere is NOTHING to cry about ..

Cheers all ..

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Posted by JunqueMan on 05-19-2005 11:36 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jc100
Use ifoedit.. u can force title menu to be 16:9. Save the IFO and bup file to another place other than folder.. copy and paste them to replace the files in the folder ( as you know this means you had to extract the video_TS folder.. .. i used winrar to get VTS files)... anyhow once u do the above, simply burn movie and on most dvd players and on ur pc ull have 16:9 AR and itll look crisp.. very nice.. except for timers.....


Or without reworking it and you just want to play it on the computer just use VideoLan's VLC Media Player and in Preferences just set the Source Aspect Ratio to 16:9 and play it..

Junque Man

btw - audio/8 video/7


Posted by iGotLaid_off on 05-19-2005 11:37 AM:

after watching this, it feels like a tuesday night scifi original movie with poorly mastered special effects similar to those seen on the power rangers series.

7/7/?

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Posted by ou812 on 05-19-2005 12:44 PM:

Bad AR, black scenes, repeats several times, only works in 1 of my DVD players, and if I pause it, it goes out of sync

I should have waited for a proper version and not downloaded this from the nuke dir.


Posted by Tork on 05-19-2005 01:04 PM:

got it the hour it was released

So far, a little out of sync problem during the middle of the movie, but this got fixed by using VLC media player. AWESOME release, bigtime props

The release is 2:21:32 Hours long

8.9/9/9


Posted by Lukero1977 on 05-19-2005 01:10 PM:

7/8/7


Posted by overlord---57 on 05-19-2005 01:31 PM:

:: Fuck you.


Posted by Cisek on 05-19-2005 01:49 PM:

Tell me something about this workprint. Is this longer than cinema version, or is exacly the same? Any new scenes?


Posted by Enzomatrx on 05-19-2005 02:12 PM:

After watching the whole thign I must change the score:
For when it was released and being a WP, video and sound are awesome (again, XBMC adjusts AR on the fly, so no issue here)

V: definite 9, yeah VCD or whatever it may be in encoding but I did not miss a scene
A: another 9 in my books... not a single bit of dialog or effect was not heard by my ears
M: Lucas tricks us all like he did with #2... drag..drag...drag...drag..then ending convinces you it was a great movie. Fuckin' same as ep 2. Still, sitting through the whole thing took a litre of liquor and a meal. Cut it down a notch!
So as such, it's a... 6. It will be remembered, but it's not something I will gladly sit through over and over.

Also, it's a good thing this WP was one of the "CGI included", or else thi smovie would be about 5 minutes long. My god I miss the days of models and 'technique' to establish a shot. now it's just "DRAW IN ON THE COMPUTER OMG L33T!"

I swear, the amount of actual "sets" in this movie and "actors" can be counted on one hand it seems.


Posted by corvex on 05-19-2005 02:52 PM:

masterpiece

good release, ticker on the top but still verry watchable.
If you compare this movie to ep I or II you definately arent a star wars fan, this is return of the jedi x5

DVDR rating

video=7
audio=7
movie=10

This aint complicated, this was a masterpiece


Posted by Subspsycho on 05-19-2005 03:00 PM:

Seems pretty good, especially in such an early stage. Based on what I've seen 'till now I give the release a 7. Gonna see it in the theatre though, I think.

About the A.R: Imo changing it to 16:9 is still not the solution, it seems to me that it actually �_s 2.35:1 or something near, however packed very badly (but hey, what do you expect from a stolen VCD put on a DVD in a very bad way )


Posted by overlord---57 on 05-19-2005 03:18 PM:

sooo..... to request (which is against the rules) is ok but me commenting that people shouldn't request from a grp who doesn't do that many releases is not okay... you moderators are weird sometimes

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Posted by Ripper on 05-19-2005 04:16 PM:

Ok there are 94 chapters on this spread over a few seconds for each chapter, plus it dosent matchtiming on the dvd which says 30 odd mins but the full film is there including the credits.
Also there is a little problem with the vobs structure which can be fixed with ifoedit as well as the aspect ratio being fixed the same way, pic is good considering the file size and vcd format
Overall not bad, nice pre just hope whoever ripped it off dont get caught like the hulk guy did, wonder what george lucas is thinking now since the security on this release is fecked compared to the 1st film

Gonna watch it in cinema 1st i think though!

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Posted by masop on 05-19-2005 04:43 PM:

Smile

I was a bit annoyed at the crappy job that the "ripper and packer" did. After seeing that the movie was basically nothing but a VCD put on a DVD, I really wondered why they didn't just release it as a 2 or 3 disc VCD. The only good thing of it being on a DVD is you don't have to switch discs. The blockiness is bad in high action scenes, and the counters are a real eye sore. It'll take some getting used to, to be able to ignore them, lol. I also noticed immediately that, although it is really a moot issue, the NFO seems like it was thrown together by a 5 year old, lol.

I do give them a thumbs up on the speed however, since I received it several hours before the North American release. I figure it will be a matter of hours, not days, before a better release is put out. :-) The below ratings are conservative and based on a 5 minute preview, not the sample.

Video - 5.0 (could be alot better, but not the worst I've seen)
Audio - 7.5 (not bad at all actually, very good considering)
Movie - TBD (looks like ALOT of action, which is welcome)

I'll form an opinion on the movie once I've seen the whole film.


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Posted by HaLiKuS on 05-19-2005 04:48 PM:

The force is strong with this release. Nice treat to have last night at 3:00 am after the cinema Thios is pretty nice, looks a whole hell of a lot better in 16x9, and after scanning through seems complete. Strange that a digital film has a Workprint, and that Lucas let this out of his clutches so soon.

7/9/9 Its a celebration bitches!

A proggie called DVDpatcher 1.06 works great for fixing the AR, but you need to multiplex the VOBs to MPV or the like, and it will automatically patch the MPVs AR in about 2 minutes without re-encoding. Just select 16x9 and 352 x 240 (it was VCD).
I personally used DVDlab to demux, fixed GOP header in tools, patched MPV with DVDpatcher for the AR, re-imported the MPV to DVDlab, transcoded audio to AC3 () and compiled.


Posted by Arthur Daily on 05-19-2005 07:57 PM:

it should be quite easy to fix, but anyways
this has turned up..

Star.Wars.Episode.3.Revenge.of.the.Sith.WP.DVDR-ViSA.Aspect.ratio.fix

Just watched it to the end, No Sync probs here
and scene's are intact

(rateing, as my post a few pages back )

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Posted by JohnnyboyD12 on 05-19-2005 08:24 PM:

Just applied the AR fix and this seems okay.

No sync issues...... 1 billion chapters is annoying, but hey, its free





Posted by Gwil on 05-20-2005 01:14 AM:

Just watched the sample, seems like a perfectly fine workprint, I'll save watching the film till the cinema.

But more importantly, VCDQuality is famous! This was on BBC news tonight on TV, if you go here and click on the link "See a clip of a cinema advert that warns against piracy" video link on the top left, about 35 seconds in you'll see VCDQuality!


Posted by Ave it on 05-20-2005 01:22 AM:

watching now, not bad at all audio synch slightly out and big time bar across the top but pic and sound are good! 8/8/8 i think. Thanks.


Posted by Fionn McCool on 05-20-2005 02:33 AM:

Good release for a workprint. Ar was rightly fuckedup until I fixed it with ifoedit. Don't mind the counters as its better than a massive blur in the screen. The group seems clueless though.....DVD-r ?. Saw this in cinema tonight and it truly is a terrible movie.

7/8/3


Posted by Jc100 on 05-20-2005 04:11 AM:

I watched whole thing, very very good quality except counter. Counter is intrusive on some parts where heads are covered briefly on speeches. Other than that, without counter this would be a 9... with counter probably 7.5... Only other gripe, I watched it at 16:9 but wish i could have gotten it 2.11:1. I previewed this format in tmpgenc and it looks MOST natural. However, at 16:9 its hardly noticeable but there are a few scenes you can tell AR is still abit off. Horrible? not in the least. Noticeable.. some. Thats my review.


Posted by yukichigai on 05-20-2005 07:42 AM:

Good release.. kinda

Okay, yeah, definite AR problems. I'm not sure why this release was dumped to such a crappy format, especially for widescreen material. And the constant bitrate just kills it, especially on a DVD. There's just plain no reason for CBR encoding to be used on a DVD, period.

As far as the nuke reasons....

Bad AR: Well duh. Definitely bad AR. If the workprint was a low-resolution workprint it could have been exported at Half-D1 A.K.A. CVD resolution using letterboxing and still been a DVD-R. Hell, with VBR encoding and 192kbps AC3 audio chances are it would have fit on a Mini-DVD. (P.S. The proper AR is 2.35:1, for any of you who are going to recode it before watching)

Wrong Format: *buzzer* Sorry, try again. Allow me to enlighten some of y'all on DVD specs, because apparently a bunch of you fell asleep when they discussed this: 352x240 MPEG-1 Video A.K.A. VCD resolution is in fact a valid DVD resolution. True, it's a really crappy resolution, but it's valid all the same. This is still technically a standard DVD, as the audio and video are both in spec.

Video: 7 - it's a decent transfer, but the choice of the VCD format with CBR encoding kills it. Try again at 352x480 MPEG-2 with letterboxing, guys; that'll look fine.

Audio: 8 - 224kbps mp2 audio... nothing special here. Unfortunately the equalization seems to be a little off, as certain high range noises make my ears itch. (literally)

Movie: ? - Haven't watched it all the way through yet. I feel the urge to convert it to something with the proper AR first.


Posted by pcmerc on 05-20-2005 07:46 AM:

weak

This is a crap job. Sure it's ok for what it is. But the way it was done is 1/2 ass.

If the disc doesn't play in your unit it's because an mpeg1 was used & forced to dvd format. The audio is mpeg1 which would explain why you might get video but no audio on a set top dvd player.

I re-encoded that video & audio to the proper formats & it works fine in a set top player. The audio needs to be mpeg2 48k.

If your gonna put your time in, atleast do it more than 1/2 ass. There is only 1 way to do something, thats the RIGHT way.

I do give props on the speed of the release.


Posted by nitemare on 05-20-2005 06:14 PM:

7/8/?

Decided to go for this release.
I edited files to say all 16:9, 720x480 resolution, automatic letterbox.
Played back fine on my xbox.
Picture was fine. A bit blocky. But colorful, bright, no dark spots.
Sound was fine. Direct.
Havent watched entire movie. I was having too much fine fixing ar..hehe


grab this release, fix ar. u are set to go!


Posted by Hockney on 05-20-2005 07:15 PM:

Not a bad copy of it really. Why they released it in the format they did beats me lol

Deffo the best out the 3 recent episodes of Star Wars

7/8/8

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Posted by sloth1234 on 05-21-2005 06:29 AM:

awesome release besides the timers..which really aren't a big deal considering how early this release is.

those of you saying the 1/2 ass job the ripper did...my guess is he had no time to do a good enough job, he probably swiped the disc, threw it in ripped it and put it back as soon as possible..no time to perfect it! i would not say half ass..i would say the ripper has balls! congratulations Visa!

audios good no complaints there for me..

video: some fair amounts of pixelation but i noticed it less when watching on a standalone then on the pc,
aspect ratio issue..this fixed it very nicely and takes all of less then a minute to do.. "Star Wars Episode 3 Revenge of the Sith WP DVDR-ViSA Aspect Ratio FiX-iND"

ripped the vts folder with DvdDecrypter, overwrote the bup and ifo files that came with the fix and then burned with nero..DONE no time whatsover.

all in all im VERY grateful for this release, although i did go to the theatre for the midnight showing, then again tonight (friday) and me and some buddies are planning to go again saturday..w00t!
THEN, i plan to get my DIY lcd projector up and running and having a Star Wars marathon at some point in time with all 6 movies! very excited...


Posted by jrkey2 on 05-21-2005 08:49 AM:

Just finished watching had a couple of stops and resat scenes but I guess that goes with a workprint got used to counter and all in all A-9 V-9 M-9


Posted by DEMENTA on 05-21-2005 10:30 PM:

I Think this one is almost perfect for a workprint when u get the ratio fix to replace the lost 16x9 picture. I Watched it all the way through twice after seeing it at the theatres and by rating as a workprint i would have to give it

Video - 9
Audio - 9
Movie - 9

BTW: Does anyone actually post to rate the movies anymore ?

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Posted by drboose on 05-22-2005 09:20 AM:

yukichigai, scene rules dictate dvd source for dvdr releases... did we fall asleep in class?

great release, blocky... but better than nothin.

7/9/8


Posted by Primer55 on 05-23-2005 05:11 AM:

No Audio?!?

I recently got a copy of the ViSA release and I was unable to get the audio to work...infact I went into the CD and there were no audio files present...am I missing something or is the audio possibly encoded into the video and just wont play on the Nero show player?!?


Posted by DJLink on 05-25-2005 03:00 AM:

Seen all the releases, read my post for the best iMO

For everyone who has got visa's or any other one floating around this one is the best so far imo and I've seen 4 different versions that were all quality, but this one is the best.


there is no nfo, but here is the description from the zone that people go to for nzb's. Get it? NABs are not illegal, but I'm not sure If I'm allowed to give the site url on these forums but you can figure it out. google zone and nzb.

anyway hare is the description

[WP Reenc Anamorphic WS *Corrected* 2.35:1 AR+Transcoded Dolby Digital - Sample Incl - PARs to follow] (NTSC)


Here is one of the file names for people who search usenet.

Star Wars Ep III: ROTS with correct 2.35:1 aspect ratio !PARs [1/1] - "sw3rots.oar


Posted by littlegreenone on 05-27-2005 04:21 AM:

after d/l'ing the visa wp, you can use ffdshow to change the aspect ratio to 2.35:1.


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