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Posted by vip3r on 07-11-2004 11:37 AM:

Yeah yeah, you're all gonna say this; OMG CENTROPY IS BACK!! IM SO SHOCKED..well you know what, get over it, cause they aren't..

Anyways, this is a good release, i was surprised to see that the sample is 1 minute 30 seconds long @ 14mb.. but whatever, the pic & sound are both great..great colors as always, props Centropy (been waitin on this one - even though Michael Moore is a tard imo)

8/8/?


Posted by Mystic Slippers on 07-11-2004 11:39 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by vip3r
Yeah yeah, you're all gonna say this; OMG CENTROPY IS BACK!! IM SO SHOCKED..well you know what, get over it, cause they aren't..


If anyone does, they'll be banned. I'm fucking fed up with it. And no, i don't give a shit what anyone thinks of me anymore.


Posted by Debo on 07-11-2004 11:50 AM:

...

video looks great
audio looks great
i dont know about the "movie" yet but it points fingers at Bush so i cant wait to watch it

::Flame again and you're gone. I already don't like you. -K::

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Posted by Muzak on 07-11-2004 12:00 PM:

decent release for a shitty movie from a lying pile of shit.

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Posted by bigd25x on 07-11-2004 12:01 PM:

hmm, dident moore say he dident care if his movie was all over the internet and everywhere he just wanted people to see it lol, then where the hell is the dvd regin 1 retail rip of this :-D

just jokeing, good work guys allways pulling in every now and then when we need yea

Video - 7 "good for ts"
sound - 7 "good for ts"
Movie - 10 "bush sux, i could of told you that but no ... gotta make a movie about it"


not a newb, just to the fourms :-D


Posted by SToNERUK on 07-11-2004 12:11 PM:

o.k. , downloaded sample, so scores are just from it, am d/lin full movie atm so will edit after i watch full release.

Vid - 8 : looks like a pretty good picture
Aud - 8 : sounds clear, no hissing or pops etc.
Mov - Will let u know


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Posted by vip3r on 07-11-2004 12:12 PM:

LOL .. i dunno why i'm doing this, but if you read what i said, i stopped, but you haven't..grow up

ohhh, and if i probably didn't even mention shit about people going crazy about centropy being back, Mystic wouldn't have said anything ( i think ), so i have the right to comment.

/end of rant for real this time


Posted by stezo2k on 07-11-2004 12:19 PM:

Video is nice, a little worse than their last year releases, but is still excellent for a TS

Sound is excellent as usual, shame about the movie though

8/9/5


Posted by ch0pp3r on 07-11-2004 12:40 PM:

From sample 8/8/9(watched the cam)

The speed is usual, like two weeks after release, even more

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Posted by TrV on 07-11-2004 12:58 PM:

I see this forum is still full of losers......fuck all rlz grps i say, they all suck anyway ;p

oh!

8/8/sucks


Posted by toejam66 on 07-11-2004 01:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by TrV
I see this forum is still full of losers......fuck all rlz grps i say, they all suck anyway ;p

oh!

8/8/sucks



As soon as you leave there will be one less.


Posted by desertboy on 07-11-2004 02:20 PM:

Not a bad release, not the best TS either.

7/8/5

(I only watched the sample but I watched POT's release)

crap film but the bit about Monkey's was funny.

If you hate Bush worth watching but a bit too much of a personal attack and not enough a good documentary in its' own right.

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Posted by bigmouse64 on 07-11-2004 02:24 PM:

7/8/?


Posted by nobleskill on 07-11-2004 02:33 PM:

7/8/1

not bad, not the best either.


quote:
decent release for a shitty movie from a lying pile of shit.


couldn't have said it better myself


Posted by Redemption1980 on 07-11-2004 03:07 PM:

From Sample, Good pic and sound,saw better but for a film like this perfect picture and sound isnt a necessity as long as its watchable and u can hear it.

Haven't saw the film yet, i liked Bowling For Columbine though and i think most of the bad reviews are by Americans blinded by Patriotism.

7/7/?


Posted by Fear345 on 07-11-2004 03:50 PM:

not bad at all 7.7.na


Posted by VOorheES-ToUcH on 07-11-2004 04:07 PM:

7/8/8

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Posted by dank bref on 07-11-2004 04:12 PM:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mystic Slippers
If anyone does, they'll be banned. I'm fucking fed up with it. And no, i don't give a shit what anyone thinks of me anymore. [/QUOTE



9/9/7 Good movie use your brain to sift through Moore's bullshit and see that he does make some interesting points. Why do people get their panties in a wad when someone says the "C" word? They are just a group and happen to be a little bit better than most . All you goons come out of the wood works hating , poor souls.

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Posted by firefighter on 07-11-2004 04:28 PM:

I couldnt give a shit about bush or these points but wanted to see once , to see what the hype was. POT's copy did that for me so dont think ill ever watch this movie again. Interesting seeing Centropy squeeze a movie in here and there. From the few rars i downloaded to base on quality, The Picture is pretty good looks like the cameraman couldnt get autofocus figured out and keeps going blurry to non blurry (faintly). Colors also seemed washed. Sound DTS disk so perfect audio. This is an ok TELESYNC at best but nothing to knock you out of your seat over.

7/9/5

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Posted by SToNERUK on 07-11-2004 04:29 PM:

Havent seen anyone else comment on this maybe its just my copy , but is the bitrate on this release a bit high for svcd, 6.0mbit ?

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Posted by jmur on 07-11-2004 04:35 PM:

anyways...this is a good release whether ctp or videocd, or even tun released it, and thats all that matters. now il can finally watch this movie.

8/8/?


Posted by Miller on 07-11-2004 05:01 PM:

good release. video and audio were good from the sample. no anoying hiss's er poping sounds. not bad for the recient Ctp but not like the rls they had b4 they lost their old source
7/7/9
ps: god this movie make me hate bush
fuckin saudi lover! /end rant!

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Posted by heavyc on 07-11-2004 05:21 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by vcd099
dumbasses. anything in the movie you think is bullshit, list it, and refute it. otherwise, take your ignorant, unpolitical asses to church and pray to allah to give you some insight.


ROFLMAO, nice. the allah bit is the cherry on top. I hate bush like the next guy, but at least im canadian so i dont have to live under his yoke of confusion and tyrany.. wait a second. isnt this a forum about a video rls?
8/8/10

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Posted by TigerLord on 07-11-2004 06:03 PM:

8/8/10

love is the air...

kickass movie !


Posted by EViL-EWoK on 07-11-2004 06:06 PM:

great qual
8/8/6

This movie had way too much hype. It was interesting to watch but anyone can manipulate facts and make it sound like a government conspiracy. He twists facts and makes it sound the worst.

thats what i think

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Posted by directv on 07-11-2004 06:15 PM:

one thing that no one has yet to say is whether or not this release is complete. well, is it?


Posted by firefighter on 07-11-2004 06:37 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by directv
one thing that no one has yet to say is whether or not this release is complete. well, is it?


You can almost be positive its complete. When a grp like VideoCD or Centropy uses DTS Disks for audio, if the release isnt complete then they have to find what frames are missing, cut the audio out ... etc and turns out to be a big pain in the ass or next to impossible to sync if missing footage.

CD1 .cue is screwed by the way , gotta use vcdgear to make the bin > mpeg then burn ;/

CD1 = 1 hr 0mins 0sec
CD2 = 58mins 30sec
Total = 1 hr 58 mins 30 sec (118.5 mins)
imdb.com runtime = 122 min

Take away the credits and ya got a full movie/documentary.

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Posted by d00d84 on 07-11-2004 07:00 PM:

great audio, picture much better than pots, but the colors are faded/blurred at parts. the movie has a good point and approach to bush, its just quite biased. learn some more about the half-truths moore used at: http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/?GT1=3584.


Posted by Neversoft on 07-11-2004 07:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by firefighter
You can almost be positive its complete. When a grp like VideoCD or Centropy uses DTS Disks for audio, if the release isnt complete then they have to find what frames are missing, cut the audio out ... etc and turns out to be a big pain in the ass or next to impossible to sync if missing footage.

CD1 .cue is screwed by the way , gotta use vcdgear to make the bin > mpeg then burn ;/

CD1 = 1 hr 0mins 0sec
CD2 = 58mins 30sec
Total = 1 hr 58 mins 30 sec (118.5 mins)
imdb.com runtime = 122 min

Take away the credits and ya got a full movie/documentary.

^^^ And this is why I say this guy is one of the best posters on this site and anybody who has a beef with him needs stabbing in the eyes! Thanks Firefighter, some of us appreciate it!

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Posted by Chewsmoka on 07-11-2004 07:36 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by TrV
I see this forum is still full of losers......fuck all rlz grps i say, they all suck anyway ;p

oh!

8/8/sucks



Could agree more with the statement, and the review. Micheal Moore " The people's man " - hah, living in his 1.5 million dollar condo on Manhattan island must be hard on the blue collar stiff.

7/8/Fat, Hypocrite, Lieing, Fucker


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quote:
Originally posted by platinum_bomb
Dude, It wasn't there and still isn't... I was waiting to see what the pic looked like cuz the release was up, but there was no pic and i didn't find the sample, mo fo. Don't make me come and tie ur arms to ur chair and beat u silly with your own keyboard

lol

Will edit this after i get it.


Posted by mgrd on 07-11-2004 07:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by firefighter
CD1 .cue is screwed by the way , gotta use vcdgear to make the bin > mpeg then burn ;/



You can just open up the .cue in notepad or something and remove all the shit in front of the bin name i.e.(c:/documents and settings/blah/blah.bin would become blah.bin)

Save you the disk space and time to extract the bin.

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Posted by deusx on 07-11-2004 07:51 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by vcd099
dumbasses. anything in the movie you think is bullshit, list it, and refute it. otherwise, take your ignorant, unpolitical asses to church and pray to allah to give you some insight.


Here you go:

http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/
http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fif...renheit-911.htm
http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica...railer_lrg.html

Dave Kopel is an admitted liberal, btw.

8/8/3. Video and audio is solid, but Moore's apparent A.D.D. kicks in after about 40 minutes and the movie goes all over the place as he tries to fill another 50 minutes of screen time. And, as explained in the links I posted, Moore himself often doesn't seem to know what it is he is trying to say, or what actions *he* would recommend to have been done differently. As usual, his main goal is to simply get people riled up. I give it a "3" because it has a couple amusing moments and because it almost turns into an actual documentary towards the end.


Posted by KrackZaa on 07-11-2004 08:28 PM:

actually all you gotta do for cd1 is just add ".bin" after the "ctp-911a" and ur golden. did ctp make a sample the sites ive been on didnt show a sample, only the two cds. well ctp thanks again, i had a feeling that videocd was not going to be able to release this since they get french video source. the cam was ok, but not really up to par, this is great quality, perfect sound, video is good too. nice work boys, you always come in the clutch

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Posted by Jurai on 07-11-2004 08:46 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by vcd099
dumbasses. anything in the movie you think is bullshit, list it, and refute it. otherwise, take your ignorant, unpolitical asses to church and pray to allah to give you some insight.


http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fif...renheit-911.htm
http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/

rawr

7/8/-1

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Why is this nuked? I pay for my downloads and I don't like to waste.


Posted by SToNERUK on 07-11-2004 08:57 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by directv
one thing that no one has yet to say is whether or not this release is complete. well, is it?


Yup, firefighters correct in his mathmatics.
Also scanned thru it and end credits are there (not cut off so u dont know if its ended) just after bush speaks so it def. seems full release.

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Posted by safri_duo_nuter on 07-11-2004 09:07 PM:

yeh the cue file is screwed but dont bother going anc converting ans stuff like that.

Any easier way to do it is to open the cue file with note pad and change the first line to:

FILE "ctp-f911a.bin" BINARY

they forgot to put the .bin in the text DOUH!


Posted by firefighter on 07-11-2004 10:32 PM:

Great Job Centropy! Default in DVD2SVCD heh.

Type: MPEG2
Bitrate: 6.000 Mbps
Framerate: 25.000 Hz
Resolution: 480x576
Aspect ratio: 4x3

Bitrate higher then 2450 isnt allowed due to crashing standalone players (which this copy is doing). If you put this movie onto DVDR it will still work , but useless for CDR on alot of standalones.
Repack?

Change for this copy:
7/0/5

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Posted by firefighter on 07-11-2004 10:55 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by mikeyrana
don't be silly pointing out the obvious - firefighter likes people to think he is intelligent but once again he fucks his own ass with pointless information - hehehehe


actually mikeyrana in case you havent noticed alot of the people who post on these forum dont know what the hell their doing , fixing a cue is like telling them to leech from sites (they dont understand) .... but yet alot have vcdgear as they watch movies on computer so was a safe assumption to tell them to go bin > mpeg.

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Posted by mikeyrana on 07-11-2004 11:00 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by firefighter
actually mikeyrana in case you havent noticed alot of the people who post on these forum dont know what the hell their doing , fixing a cue is like telling them to leech from sites (they dont understand) .... but yet alot have vcdgear as they watch movies on computer so was a safe assumption to tell them to go bin > mpeg.



i'm sure if they are clever enough to use vcdgear then they can fix a cue file hehe hardly rocket science


Posted by firefighter on 07-11-2004 11:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by mikeyrana
dunno bout anyone else but i just burnt it onto dvdr and it played in 3 machines and my xbox ?? am i doing something wrong firefighter ???


heh mikeyrana trying to bash me once again , and once again makes an ass out of himself .

Lets look at what i said: If you put this movie onto DVDR it will still work , but useless for CDR on alot of standalones.

Now lets look at what mikeyrana said: dunno bout anyone else but i just burnt it onto dvdr and it played in 3 machines and my xbox ??

mikeyrana YOU ARE MY DUMBASS OF THE DAY! fuck off now k.

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Posted by mikeyrana on 07-11-2004 11:30 PM:

:: Ladies. Stop with the flaming. -K::


Posted by huggy on 07-12-2004 12:22 AM:

Nice to see CENTROPY are still doing their bit for the community. After them taking a back seat for a few months.

Your average telesync here but still worth watching if your into this kind of thing.

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Posted by Redemption1980 on 07-12-2004 12:32 AM:

Has anyone else noticed that the majority of releases in this forum now, have very little comment on the actually quality, more shit about the film and arguing about pointless stuff.

And i personally dont care about what isn't true in the film, it makes good entertainment anyway, and thats what movies are about.

7/8/8


Posted by 28_days_later on 07-12-2004 12:42 AM:

7/8/5

I'm not a regular poster, but I am a regular viewer. Why don't we just focus on the quality of the movie's video/audio, rather than fighting over trivial matters? Kinda seems like a waste of time to me. Just my two cents...

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Posted by Mr E on 07-12-2004 12:43 AM:

quote:
Has anyone else noticed that the majority of releases in this forum now, have very little comment on the actually quality, more shit about the film and arguing about pointless stuff.


Was just thinking ths same myself! A lot of shit throwing going on.

7/7/8 for me!

I didn't realise how strongly a lot of you US folks felt about Bush until I read some of the comments on here!!!

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Posted by BLUE-NEO on 07-12-2004 01:03 AM:

pretty good...not that bad..but not all that either..

7/8/8

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Posted by GuitarGuru on 07-12-2004 01:17 AM:

This worked fine on my DVD player, and I used CDR's. I guess I was lucky.


Posted by kalvaitis007 on 07-12-2004 02:18 AM:

Listen up people. If you want to comment on the quality of the movie, you're in the right place. If you want to discuss politics or CTP, you're in the wrong place. NO MORE flames, or Off Topic drivel, alright?

Come on over to the Movie Discussion section and play with me. I love you Moore fans.

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Posted by SToNERUK on 07-12-2004 02:27 AM:

nuked now, BITRATE 6.0MBits, didnt know whether it was my copy or not...guess i was right

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Posted by Swirls on 07-12-2004 04:02 AM:

Yeah... Except for the 5000 or so that died during 9/11... Fucking tard.

8/8/3... Michael Moore is a fat propagating pile of shit.


Posted by lerkster on 07-12-2004 04:13 AM:


8/8/1


Posted by eighty5 on 07-12-2004 06:15 AM:

looks a bit blurry, and very blocky..

and its nuked. go centropy go.


Posted by dark101 on 07-12-2004 06:35 AM:

Exclamation Nuke reason.

Ok blotchy?? No not really, this rls looks very nice, a little to nice. The reason for nuke is not the cue messup it is because centropy encoded the svcd at such a high bitrate not all dvd players can play it... All that is needed to do if this doesn't play in ur dvdplayer is to run it through with tmpgenc once with svcd option and itll be all fixed... (U gotta use somethin like vcdgear to convert to mpg to be able to use it with tmpgenc and if u want to convert the new encode back to bin/cues to burn also)

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Posted by hoozdapimp on 07-12-2004 08:31 AM:

the movie may look a little blocky, but to be fair, it was like that in a lot of parts during the theatre (where stuff was taken from the news, and other stuff)....


Posted by Snoopus on 07-12-2004 10:38 AM:

Waited for a good copy before watching this one all the way through. No matter how good this one looks, couldn't help the flick. Nice rls though. 7/8/Blows Dog


Posted by I am X on 07-12-2004 01:34 PM:

Glad to see that a group of "weight" put this out. POT'S release was simply not good enough quality to d/l and watch. Glad to see that Centropy is still putting out stuff from time to time too.
I didn't worry about the 6,000 bitrite issue. I converted it to DVD compliant 4,500 bitrate and watched it THAT way. No problem. Colors were a tad off, and during very fast motion scenes there were some slight artifacts, but even so, this release was MUCH better than POT'S. This release was good enough to d/l and watch. Even if they were to proper this, I wouldn't waste my time with it. The entire film has that "grainy" look to it, even if you see it in the theater, but that was intended. That look is not a result of poor encoding. For what it is, this is a very good release, save the color hue and tint, and the infrequent blockiness.
The movie itself made me think of this liberal zealot that I work with. I SWEAR this movie could have been made by this guy at my job! He brings up the same EXACT issues in everyday conversation that come up in the movie.
As far as LIKING the movie, I found it entertaining for what it was, but I was actually more interested in the subject matter of "Bowling For Columbine".

Video - 7.5
Audio - 9
Movie - 6.5

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Posted by venompowers on 07-12-2004 05:50 PM:

Nice Release Centropy the bottom was a little cropped but sound was perfect along with video

Video: 8

Sound: 8

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Posted by xiaNaix on 07-12-2004 06:12 PM:

Isn't this site called VCDQuality and not VCDOpinion? Anyway, not the best SVCD I've ever seen but definately much improved over the cam version.

Video: 7
Audio: 8
Movie: 6

I think Bowling For Columbine was more entertaining. Most of the material in this film was already covered by Alex Jones.


Posted by brut7 on 07-12-2004 06:15 PM:

Hi,

7/8/5 the 5 being for neutrality and a five for the movie in general.

I'm sure their's some truth and I'm sure Moore is politically motivated.

Nero was grumpy about the cue on cd1, Alcohol burnt it without problems.

Bitrate wasn't a problem for either of my stand alones.


Posted by MiSSiONDVD on 07-12-2004 06:37 PM:

Not much to say about this except i think this movie suck.but everybody has there own choice's of film's.Oh yer Thanks CTPS.
ViD 7
AUDiO 8
MOViE 6


Posted by slaz on 07-12-2004 07:20 PM:

usual quality for ctp, not their best work, but certainly good none the less.

Glad to see someone did a good version of this movie. saw it in the cinema, and whille i think its a bit of a personal attack on bush, he does make some very valid points. like the bit about the bin laden family investing billions in usa....

i rated this 8/8/9 it would of been 7.5/8/9 but i cant do .5's

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Posted by RussTC3 on 07-12-2004 07:26 PM:

I'm new to this stuff but I have a few questions. Since this release is nuked, what exactly does that mean? Will another group release another svcd of it? Because the Pot VCD is pretty bad, and I was hoping to get a better version. Thanks.


Posted by a r e s ! on 07-12-2004 08:24 PM:

great Centropy release, the picture compared to POT is way better and the sound too

picture/sound/film - 7.5/8.0/8.2

the movie is interesting, but I liked the documentation of 'Bowling for Columbine' more

http://img24.exs.cx/img24/4454/Fahrenheit911SVCDTS-Centropy_vs_POT_small.jpg


Posted by NewbieSnipa on 07-12-2004 11:38 PM:

Good Copy wont find problem because I use VideoLan.


7/8/7


Posted by Bravo on 07-13-2004 02:52 AM:

A little cropped but good quality all in all. Sound was excellent.
Centropy came through in the clutch. 7.5/9/8


Posted by misfits138 on 07-13-2004 03:49 AM:

video gets a little too bright in some scenes.
plays great on my xbox hdd in xbox media center.


Posted by ElusiveHacker on 07-13-2004 07:36 AM:

played fine on my dvd player
works nice in my XBMC to

7/8/8


Posted by commiewhore on 07-13-2004 07:44 AM:

a year ago, your mouths all were wet with water, waiting for that big "c"ock ...now look at you

video = 8
audio = 7
movie = 7

if you honestly think all these facts were made up, you are a moron...they are all free available facts...all moore did was slow down for drama ...slow down scenes for you to question...why ? cause after 9/11 , no one else did...for all you moore haters out there...eat a dick, he might be really left wing, but in the same sense im glad he showed this movie..if you should call anyone non patriots , i would point the finger at media itself, for showing pictures and film of people burning as they jumped out of the towers on 9/11 and for those who were paid money for the footage they took while it was happening...for those of you not in the area , it may not mean anything for you, which is fine...but for those of us who had family there and who some of those burning people were fathers of our friends.....it meant something...and so did this movie, to question whether or not people were duped into things....anyhow..think before you speak, and if this must be an opinion forrum, then so be it..


Posted by RussTC3 on 07-13-2004 09:21 AM:

Man, there was A LOT missing in the POT release of this movie. The SVCD is pretty good quality, the color was too bright throughout all of the movie, and the sound is very good.

I enjoyed the movie. When watching every movie you have to understand that #1 it is entertainment. Don't take everything for fact.

But its hard for a lot of you to think that everything that Moore put in this movie was twisted, and that none of it is "fair and balanced".

I don't want to make a big discussion out of this. It's just my 2 cents. But I do hope that your only reason for not watching this movie is because "Michael Moore is fat bastard"

7/9/Thats for you to decide.


Posted by CANES1 on 07-13-2004 12:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by firefighter
CD1 = 1 hr 0mins 0sec
CD2 = 58mins 30sec
Total = 1 hr 58 mins 30 sec (118.5 mins)
imdb.com runtime = 122 min

Take away the credits and ya got a full movie/documentary.



I opened the bins with VideoLan just to see if it was the whole movie and it said both bins were an hour-and-a-half long! Whats up with that? VideoLan can't read VCD time codes properly? My DVD player showed the proper durations except CD1 was 59:59.


Posted by Killa_VN on 07-13-2004 01:44 PM:

i thought the quality was great works fine on my dvd player only problem was a nero didnt like the cue from cd 1 so i extracted it to mpeg and burnt to cd.

thought it was a great doco.

love centropys rips like the fact that they are nearrly full screen.

well done

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Posted by .Th3 on 07-13-2004 02:01 PM:

Gjob, quality is ok, not great, but very good, but too bad about the bitrate issues.

8/8/8: good film, I don't like bush at all, but I think it's a bit unfair to use his own methods against him, but still, good movie.


Posted by djj on 07-13-2004 06:38 PM:

Good video there, very watchable and audio is simply excellent.

8/9/8

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Posted by fresh55 on 07-13-2004 10:36 PM:

Lightyears beyond the quality of the POT release; this version had the entire film included, without the 45 minute chunk cut from the middle, not to mention music being present (which was mysteriously cut from the earlier release). Great job centropy.

8/9/9


Posted by toejam66 on 07-13-2004 11:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by mgrd
You can just open up the .cue in notepad or something and remove all the shit in front of the bin name i.e.(c:/documents and settings/blah/blah.bin would become blah.bin)

Save you the disk space and time to extract the bin.



Thanks for the tip. Saved me alot of time extracting the mpeg.


Posted by petrocs on 07-14-2004 05:54 AM:

Not bad quality..but the movie blew ass..I swear to God someone needs to stick a firecrack in Michael Moores ass cause he's horrible...whether you, me or anyone likes Bush or not is irrelevent...the movie was so extreme leftist its pathetic

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Posted by vcd fogie on 07-14-2004 06:16 AM:

video: 7 - very watchable, but lots of blur in heavy motion, and most of the shots are shot "documentary" style which makes it have a lot of motion in the first place. colors are slightly off. close to par with the recent VideoCD telesyncs, and not quite up to par with old school centropy telesyncs

audio: 10 - straight dts rip, perfectly synced

movie: (insert 0 or 10 here based on your opinion

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Posted by RussTC3 on 07-14-2004 09:21 AM:

I noticed at the end of it the picture starts to pixelate, and breaks up. Did I just make a bad burn? Or is the end messed up?


Posted by petrocs on 07-14-2004 04:08 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by RussTC3
I noticed at the end of it the picture starts to pixelate, and breaks up. Did I just make a bad burn? Or is the end messed up?


bad burn

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Posted by kefrif on 07-14-2004 08:46 PM:

Disagree with Nuke

I disagree with the nuking of this.

It's the best copy on the scene, and it's playable in a great many players, aswell as through DVD software on PC's. I've made comments about sheep-nuking before, and this, IMHO, is a prime example.

It's got good pic quality, excellent sound quality, and my concern is that anyone who wants to see this, and any other over-bitrate movie would be put off by the nuke and have distribution strangled.

IMHO, the rules for nuking are too tight. A warning about high bitrates and the consequences thereof would be a better way forwards on this site methinks.

Cheers,

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Posted by huggy on 07-15-2004 12:48 AM:

because your a new user. itll be like this for the first 10 mails you send in. it checks your posts to see if you abuse the service or not. after that itll be fine.

quote:
Originally posted by RussTC3
Yeah, its a bad burn. Just reburned it and its fine. Why is there such a large delay in my posting. Thats annoying.

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Posted by JT_Ripper on 07-15-2004 03:18 AM:

Not bad at all. Played great on my stand-alone, on a widescreen tv.

I think the pixely stuff is because Moore didn't always get source footage.

7/8/6


Posted by RussTC3 on 07-15-2004 03:24 AM:

Re: Disagree with Nuke

quote:
Originally posted by kefrif
I disagree with the nuking of this.

It's the best copy on the scene, and it's playable in a great many players, aswell as through DVD software on PC's. I've made comments about sheep-nuking before, and this, IMHO, is a prime example.

It's got good pic quality, excellent sound quality, and my concern is that anyone who wants to see this, and any other over-bitrate movie would be put off by the nuke and have distribution strangled.

IMHO, the rules for nuking are too tight. A warning about high bitrates and the consequences thereof would be a better way forwards on this site methinks.

Cheers,

Kefrif



I agree with you Kefrif. I think there are only 2 versions of Fahrenheit out there, this one and the POT cam (which isnt good at all).

I may be new to this stuff, but there really isn't all that much wrong with this. I don't think the high bitrate is causing too many problems. It shouldn't have been nuked.


Posted by rlxhustlr on 07-15-2004 09:38 AM:

Isn't nuking a Centropy release illegal in the lower 48 states. Played just fine in my DVD player anyways.

Sure Moore is telling one side but alot of what he has to say is right on. Ya I thought Columbine was better but 911 has some brilliant moments to.

The color seemed a little off but a solid telesync overall.

7-8-7


Posted by tenaciousdave on 07-15-2004 11:58 AM:

I understand why it was nuked, I normally convert TS or TC to MPEG first and it did have difficulty playing in Media Player and BS player, I had to open it through winDVD to play it properly, but once running it was fine.

Video is ok, gets too bright at parts and blurry at times: 7
Audio is good: 9
Film is a very good documentary, not as sharp as bowling for columbine, but definitley worthwhile seeing: 8


Posted by flippa on 07-15-2004 02:13 PM:

watched it using daemon tools and this copy is absolutelu fine.... the cue file seems fucked... worth probably extracting mpg and reburning with nero yourself.... trying to burn using straight bin file as is will cause you problems... have phun.... Bush is a twat

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Posted by MastaMp3 on 07-16-2004 03:41 AM:

Funny as hell wonder where he got all his info from good copy 9/7/10

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Posted by luckyluke80 on 07-16-2004 06:47 AM:

good video and sound 8/8/4
The movie was good BUT he is such a bush hater and everything he says is aganist him. So i can't tell whats the truth and what is a lie. The movie makes Hitler look like a better person than Mr. Bush. I didn't like it because it is sooooo 1 sided.

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Posted by Beelzebud on 07-16-2004 07:01 PM:

No need for a nuke. This release is fine. I've tested it on 4 different stand-alone players with no problems. Even played on an Xbox.

Video: 7
Audio: 9
Movie: 10

Vote Kerry.


Posted by alundrety on 07-19-2004 07:55 AM:

omg the part with the woman and her dead son

it was just so stupid

but haha

MM rules because he is sleezebag

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Posted by fccs on 07-20-2004 04:10 AM:

u fucking retards go suck bushes cock this movie is true fucktards u dont just make a movie and its fake

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Posted by TheQwerty on 07-22-2004 05:18 AM:

7/8/-

Yes I'm new here, so if you equate post count to intelligence just skip this post.
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I too understand why this copy was nuked, but it's better quality than POTs and it's actually complete.

Shouldn't an incomplete release be an automatic nuke?

It just seems worse to have part of the film missing than having a copy that isn't compatible with all players, to me. Because at least I can re-encode or try a different player in case two, but what am I going to do in case one?


Posted by Hairyhamster on 07-23-2004 09:38 AM:

makes ya think doesnt it!!!!!
audio=fine
video=not the greatest yet good
movie=well worth a look

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Posted by psyche on 07-23-2004 11:36 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by luckyluke80
good video and sound 8/8/4
The movie was good BUT he is such a bush hater and everything he says is aganist him. So i can't tell whats the truth and what is a lie. The movie makes Hitler look like a better person than Mr. Bush. I didn't like it because it is sooooo 1 sided.

all of the facts are there, it just depends on how you put it together. i'm glad it exposes bush and some of it may be theory but i wouldn't be surprised if they were true. 7/8/9


Posted by shark on 07-24-2004 03:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by luckyluke80
So i can't tell whats the truth and what is a lie.


The 'facts' as Moore states them are justified by him line by line at http://www.michaelmoore.com/warroom/f911notes/ for those who are interested. As someone else said it's about how you add them all up to come to your own conclusions.

Superior to the CAM and includes the Patiot Act scenes missing from that same rls. 7/7/7

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Posted by TheQwerty on 07-24-2004 07:15 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by SToNERUK
Havent seen anyone else comment on this maybe its just my copy , but is the bitrate on this release a bit high for svcd, 6.0mbit ?



That's the reason it was nuked.. and there's been quite a few comments already made about it.


Posted by Puzzlepants on 07-29-2004 09:11 AM:

I scanned through this release and found it to be pretty damn good.

Colors a bit faded and one other thing that others mentioned: the video in the actual movie is sometimes fuzzy and pixelated, which completely throws of the quality of the release because the quality can never be better than the source.

Oh well, I didn't even notice the bitrate issue in this release because I got the Xvid 1 CD Re-enc of this and it was perfect


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