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Source Bitrates

I'm curious what people think about these "PDTV" from UK digital terrestrial.

This episode is aired on BBC2, which has an awful bitrate (2mbit/s). I always associate PDTV with high quality, but this is just shite. Maybe "PDTV" is a bit too vague, or maybe the standards of tvripping are just dropping for credit whoring.

:: well its simply to do with the fact thats the source, its still going to be better than a normal sat/cable rip imo, its a shame BBC mux's use low bitrates now. they used to be a lot lot better-pHo

actually the average bitrate for bbc2 now is up to 3mbit/s, there could be new labels like ePDTV (euroPDTV) etc but as you've prolly seen it just confuses everybody

however it is pdtv because pdtv stands for (well means this way to most the people i know) Pure Digital TV as theres no digital -> analoge -> digital conversion

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cC.

it must vary then - last night's Buffy was 2.76mbit/s, with a max of 3.51mbit/s (for the part I recorded)

Compare that to what BBC2 on Sky use (5.5mbit/s average) and you can see there's a massive difference (especially when using such a high resolution)

That aside, i'd agree more acronyms means more confusion, but surely there must be some way of identifying the source of the encode? Imagine if a stream had 1.5mbit/s bitrate, but it would still be PDTV - a bit drastic but...

I've even seen better anaolgue caps that some of the UK PDTV, mainly because of the low bitrate and the rush to get them out.

sky one has a bitrate of avg 2-3mbit/s too, not ~5mbit/s

maybe you're refering to the movie channels?

and if it isnt decent quality, i agree why try to convince that pdtv is *always* better quality than an analoge cap, which what you say is true, a well done analoge cap can beat a pdtv from bbc2 etc

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cC.

Ah, I'm referring to BBC2 Scotland on Sky - not normal BBC2.

Anyway I never see many (for example) Cheetah encodes on sites because they're so old when they air in the UK.
I'd just like to see the scene have a higher standard prevailing over credit whoring, but I guess that will never happen.