VCDQuality Forums - The Punisher *SVCD* *PROPER* - TELESYNC

Pages (2): [1] 2 »
Show all 38 posts from this thread on one page

VCDQuality Forums (http://forum.vcdq.com/index.php)
- VCD (http://forum.vcdq.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=19)
-- The Punisher *SVCD* *PROPER* - TELESYNC - iMPERiAL (http://forum.vcdq.com/showthread.php?threadid=40033)

Posted by Rep- on 04-22-2004 07:45 AM:

Definitely better than the TCF, with much better colors. The sound is similar, not great, not bad. Pick this one up if you're interested in the film. 7/7/x

Posted by MoNoXiDe on 04-22-2004 07:50 AM:

Very Nice rls... colors are nice... sound is nice... all around good rls! 8/8/x... ty guys

/me leeches

__________________

..::HiGHONASCii::..

Posted by naptown on 04-22-2004 07:51 AM:

perrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrty!
great pic
great colors
nice sound

8.5/8/7

:::EDIT::: btw, i watch the full tcf release, and i must say the proper reasons stated in the NFO ARE VALID!! this is the copy to get if you are interested in this movie.

Posted by firefighter on 04-22-2004 07:55 AM:

Im impressed , Gj iMPERIAL. Watched the sample vob included also with the sample and looks like this movie was already perfectly cropped. Colors look way better then TCF & framerate looks better. Some people say it sounds the same but this doesnt sound as mic'ish in my opinion. Nice proper.

Will rate when finished watching the movie.

__________________
All the excitement of a trip to hell with none of the negitive side affects!

Posted by Mystic Slippe on 04-22-2004 08:13 AM:

Fair enough release. If you really must watch this dross, get this copy.

I do think it should have been VCD though...

7/7

Posted by XeroFightsAlo on 04-22-2004 08:19 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mystic Slippers
I do think it should have been VCD though...

My thoughts exactly.

7/7/x

__________________
soda box

Posted by firefighter on 04-22-2004 09:17 AM:

Well , i commented on quality - now im gonna comment on sheep baaaaaah

Seeing iMPERIAL's movie getting nuked *odd* places for reason: not.needed

Now lets look at the facts - PROPER usually means better right? Better quality , Better AR , Better Sound ..... among other things.

TCFs Copy - colors were washed , the frames were screwed, the picture was overall watchable but not nice. The Sound ... sounded a bit mic'ish and got bad at times during the movie.

iMPERIALs Copy - Colors were ok , Perfectly cropped , nice & clear , much better picture. The Sound ... resembles TCF's copy wont know if it gets good or bad till i watch the complete movie but sounds ok ... so far.

Now if the sound resembled each other - the frames were better on iMPERIALs , and the picture was much much better as it is .... sounds like a valid proper to me.

Now lets look back in Time ... ahhh a movie comes to mind - Hellboy! BAHA , MPT , Centropy all clearly *same sources* (unlike this movie - The Punisher ), what was the difference in them. Better Picture , Better Sound , Better Encoding. Wow Centropy didnt get nuked.

Which brings me to the point: (thinking to an nfo from BAHA 2 days ago SM3-VOB.NF0.nfo) Quote reason #3: "the scene still hates new groups"

I hate to say it but i will , Had this said -Centropy , -TCR on it or had iMPERIAL not propered "-TCF", they mighta stood a chance everywhere. Instead nukers love to hate new grps and even though this is clearly a much better copy then TCF - nuke it for not needed? pffff

No im not with iMPERIAL release grp. Im just tired of all the sheep nukers out there who need to go back to 10mb's.

__________________
All the excitement of a trip to hell with none of the negitive side affects!

Posted by Debo on 04-22-2004 09:45 AM:

7/7/1
gay movie
the best part was when i hit my delete button

__________________

Posted by BLUE-NEO on 04-22-2004 12:15 PM:

Just picked this up, got cd2 first cd1 downloading. skimming through and colors are great. Pic a little saturated but nice. Audio is right and strong. Saw a big russian in a candy cane shirt, skimming see one line of credits and off. Looks good. Can't judge the film haven't seen it. But looks a little above average. Might and might not be true to comic book. THE HULK WAS! AND IT SUCKED A MAJOR DIZZNICK!

Overal IMPERIAL GREAT WORK.

8/8/?

__________________
Reality Is Only A State Of Mind...

Posted by Logo-uTc on 04-22-2004 12:32 PM:

GOOD FOR NOW

This is a pretty good Rls video is ok a little bright but overall good... sound is also good.. this is a watchable rls .... maybe someone like TCR would release one that looks like the whole 10 yards that would be cool this movie need that kind of quality

7/7/??

__________________
uTcRew

Posted by cazuk on 04-22-2004 01:55 PM:

7/7/5 - movie sucks

Posted by Chino XL on 04-22-2004 03:42 PM:

good quality... nice colors. pretty direct sound.. overall nice release.. not up to par with TCR or VideoCD but still pretty nice

Posted by Justferfun on 04-22-2004 07:03 PM:

arg....everytime I just finish downloading one version a better one comes out....is this one worth the .5 rating difference :\ or should I stick with my TCF until a screener (if its even worth it)

Posted by NeVeRLiFt on 04-22-2004 07:50 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by firefighter
TCFs Copy - colors were washed , the frames were screwed, the picture was overall watchable but not nice. The Sound ... sounded a bit mic'ish and got bad at times during the movie.

Nothing the contrast/brightness and saturation could not fix.

And there was nothing wrong with the fps

23.97fps is FILM. 25fps is PAL and 29.97 is NTCS.

TCF could have been better.

Posted by huggy on 04-22-2004 09:00 PM:

Can we have your views on the film quality and not on what you think of the film. As, we can decide for ourselves if we like it or not. This site is to give your opinion of the quality of the release and not for knowing if you liked it or not. THANK YOU!!

I thought the quality was decent both sound and pic. Worth viewing.

[QUOTE

quote:
Originally posted by Debo
7/7/1
gay movie
the best part was when i hit my delete button

__________________
your never alone with Schizophrenia

Posted by nfg05 on 04-22-2004 09:50 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by huggy
Can we have your views on the film quality and not on what you think of the film. As, we can decide for ourselves if we like it or not. This site is to give your opinion of the quality of the release and not for knowing if you liked it or not. THANK YOU!!

Note the movie rating system is video quality/ audio quality / MOVIE quality so I think discussion about whether or not the movie is good is definitely on topic. I visit the site to check out the quality of a release AND peoples' opinions on the movie. That being said:

7/7/x

Posted by bcool2k on 04-22-2004 10:00 PM:

Wow man, I agree with Firefighter a 110%.. I saw this in the theatres first, so I wanted to wait for a very good watchable rls.. And yes TCF had a watchable rls, so props for being first.. However, this is some of Imperial's finest work.. I can't believe their rls right b4 this was Never Die Alone PROPER.. This is a true PROPER.. Good frame rate.. Excellent Color and Sound.. No tilt.. Direct Audio.. Will do me till Screener of better.. As for the movie.. Its actually pretty damn good if u actually read or have read the Punisher.. the Punisher is a Vigilante out for justice, Not a SuperPowers super hero.. and the actor portrays the voice and character right Absolutely no need for a NUKE.. Grow up PPL. If u wanna see this rls.. get this one.. IF not, stop complaining. Mega Props to Imperial for this awesome proper!!!

8/8/8

Posted by lo.pro on 04-22-2004 11:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by firefighter
Well , i commented on quality - now im gonna comment on sheep baaaaaah :p

Seeing iMPERIAL's movie getting nuked *odd* places for reason: not.needed

Now lets look at the facts - PROPER usually means better right? Better quality , Better AR , Better Sound ..... among other things.

TCFs Copy - colors were washed , the frames were screwed, the picture was overall watchable but not nice. The Sound ... sounded a bit mic'ish and got bad at times during the movie.

iMPERIALs Copy - Colors were ok , Perfectly cropped , nice & clear , much better picture. The Sound ... resembles TCF's copy wont know if it gets good or bad till i watch the complete movie but sounds ok ... so far.

Now if the sound resembled each other - the frames were better on iMPERIALs , and the picture was much much better as it is .... sounds like a valid proper to me.

Now lets look back in Time ... ahhh a movie comes to mind - Hellboy! BAHA , MPT , Centropy all clearly *same sources* (unlike this movie - The Punisher ), what was the difference in them. Better Picture , Better Sound , Better Encoding. Wow Centropy didnt get nuked.

Which brings me to the point: (thinking to an nfo from BAHA 2 days ago SM3-VOB.NF0.nfo) Quote reason #3: "the scene still hates new groups"

I hate to say it but i will , Had this said -Centropy , -TCR on it or had iMPERIAL not propered "-TCF", they mighta stood a chance everywhere. Instead nukers love to hate new grps and even though this is clearly a much better copy then TCF - nuke it for not needed? pffff

No im not with iMPERIAL release grp. Im just tired of all the sheep nukers out there who need to go back to 10mb's.

this isn't exactly true. sites need not (and should not) accept a proper simply because it's 'better'.

any group could take way more time & make a release better and thereby lose a race. but sites should nuke any 'proper' which is released unless they have previously nuked the release being propered, or unless the nfo for the proper brings up a previously unrecognized problem with the original release.

you are wrong in assuming that 'PROPER' means 'better'. PROPER means "the previous release was nukable, this one isn't". (for instance, you said "proper means better AR"... but AR isn't "better", it's either right or it isn't. bad AR is nukable, and justifies a PROPER.) if a site thinks that a release has poor quality, they can nuke it for poor quality, and wait for a PROPER. but just accepting every release that comes along until a better one is released makes for a ton of releases of every flick. also it's not fair to the group that released the original version, that was accepted, to be nuked 1x days later for quality, nor is it fair to the couriers who raced the original. if a site decides that a release is good enough not to be nuked, then it should nuke all future releases in that category, unless a PROPER is released with something in the nfo that identifies a nukeworthy problem with the previous release that went unnoticed.

the correct label for a release that is thought to have better quality than a previous, unnuked release is iNTERNAL.

__________________

This perceived misuse of Internet resources caused former Dutch education minister Loek Hermans to comment: "It would be nice if the students at Twente University would use their fast connections for information and education purposes, instead of downloading huge amounts of porn."

____________________________________ knowing is the easy part _____________

.

Posted by firefighter on 04-22-2004 11:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by lo.pro
this isn't exactly true. sites need not (and should not) accept a proper simply because it's 'better'.
the correct label for a release that is thought to have better quality than a previous, unnuked release is iNTERNAL.

I agree with you on alot of your points , but then again i have to disagree with you on alot of points.

Im gonan go off topic of this movie a bit as its a prime example - yet refers to the exact same scenario.
Hellboy.SVCD.Repack.TS-MPT
Hellboy.SVCD.TS-Centropy
For Starters - Centropy did NOT iNTERNAL or PROPER MPT yet was not nuked. Their reasons were in nfo quote:
Oversized, interlaced, whatever. Slightly better .. to the MAX!
Well the REPACK of MPT's wasnt oversized. Interlaced was a cop out cause it said -MPT. So the reason for Centropy to release was basically .... " whatever. Slightly better .. to the MAX! "
Slightly Better? The Picture & The Sound was slightly better gotta give them that yes. It was the EXACT same source as the previous 2 copies out just better encoded. But yet Centropy did not get nuked.

I agree with you on the point about another grp can take the same "source" and encode it better and use that as a "PROPER", then we got 6 TS's of the exact same movie which gets old fast.

iMPERIAL included a .vob Sample with their .mpg Sample to prove it wasnt same source as TCF. TCF quality picture & sound was off & not up to par with the TS's we been getting spoilt with latley. Also a reason for that - they messed up encoding - which can do wonders. (frames prove that point). Now iMPERIAL releases a different source - much better TS but got nuked *odd* places.

Now we got a double standard here & brings me to the "nukers love to hate new groups". Centropy doesnt get nuked but iMPERIAL does. I *hate* compairing grps as i think its great what all grps bring / release . But comeon - double standards here thats getting worse & worse each day.

My opinion - iMPERIAL's copy was better , picture , sound , framerate .... and gonna stick with it.

__________________
All the excitement of a trip to hell with none of the negitive side affects!

Posted by lo.pro on 04-23-2004 12:31 AM:

i agree that the same should hold true of ctp. you can read my thoughts on that subject here: http://www.vcdquality.com/forum/sho...5768#post115768

but i still feel the same about what is 'proper' and what should be 'internal'. the fact that ctp doesn't follow this standard is a comment on them, and on sites that allow this to happen, not on the labelling convention itself.

All times are GMT. The time now is 01:23 PM.

Pages (2): [1] 2 »
Show all 38 posts from this thread on one page