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Posted by eighty5 on 06-11-2004 11:40 PM:

Region 1 Retail dvd and it doesnt come with English subtitles.

Thanks guys, you told me right there not to download your fake release.

Nice try

Posted by playstationer on 06-12-2004 03:59 AM:

wtf are you talkin' about eighty5?

This release is very nice

thanks ALLiANCE

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Posted by porco556 on 06-12-2004 06:25 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by eighty5
Region 1 Retail dvd and it doesnt come with English subtitles.

Thanks guys, you told me right there not to download your fake release.

Nice try

I don't have this release as I am currently out of town, HOWEVER, just because a release doesn't have subs doesn't mean it's a fake. Could be that Alliance simply doesn't know how to rip subs, or they are out of sync and not sure how to fix that. Or of course, maybe the subs are just not there.

The retail is hitting the stores in early July, it's not unrealistic time release either. Plus the director's commentary is a good indication it's a R1 also.

I hope this is a good rip cuz I've been waiting a long time for this movie. Hopefully not a TPMEG 3.0 Express encode

ACTUALLY, re-read the NFO just now. It would be nice to know something about the encode or if it is untouched video.

Posted by JoshNya on 06-12-2004 07:28 AM:

Looking at the dvdr its definataly interleaved with inifinifilm with directors cut version. Subtrack is there but no subs. I assumed they were probably out of sync due to the 2 versions of the film being together in one vobset, so they wiped it.

Definatly untouched video and menu.

Disc is wiped of everything and jumps straight to the menu.

Works good, I'm gonna purchace when its available for the extras.

2nd best movie this year next to Dawn Of The Dead (just my opinion)...

Posted by vip3r on 06-12-2004 09:10 AM:

Bah...been hearing nukes for this, but the nfo states they stripped 'em and i'm gonna have to believe that..great movie, great quality, great sound

call me crazy but.. 10/10/10 - i loved the movie

Posted by Extractor on 06-13-2004 12:35 AM:

I heard Theatrical Version has a total different Ending than DC... so it's not just more scenes but different scenes. Pity it's ripped.

P.S.: Original had subs

Posted by saosin on 06-13-2004 06:03 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by JoshNya
Looking at the dvdr its definataly interleaved with inifinifilm with directors cut version. Subtrack is there but no subs. I assumed they were probably out of sync due to the 2 versions of the film being together in one vobset, so they wiped it.

Definatly untouched video and menu.

Disc is wiped of everything and jumps straight to the menu.

Works good, I'm gonna purchace when its available for the extras.

2nd best movie this year next to Dawn Of The Dead (just my opinion)...

Agreed. Awesome movie, and works fine. Nice release, although, since this is directors cut, i'm curious how the theater version ends...supposely different ending, and shorter.

Props for this, been waiting for it

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Posted by cloudspear on 06-13-2004 07:07 AM:

yep this dc does have a different ending from the theatre version. also this does look like to me the real retail version of the movie. i guess i have to buy this to get both version of the movie on july 6

Posted by nxt on 06-13-2004 09:51 AM:

Correct, retail has theatrical and director's cut. this release they cut out the theatrical (when you press play there's an option to choose which you want to play, can only pick director's cut).

Director's cut has a totally different ending which is very over the top and not as great imho.

It's a shame. I'd figured the movie would branch off to the new scenes??? e.g. Terminator 2 style. or is it actually two complete versions of the movie on the same disc (sounds unlikely). too bad, hope someones releases a better rip.

Posted by saosin on 06-13-2004 01:17 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by nxt
Correct, retail has theatrical and director's cut. this release they cut out the theatrical (when you press play there's an option to choose which you want to play, can only pick director's cut).

Director's cut has a totally different ending which is very over the top and not as great imho.

It's a shame. I'd figured the movie would branch off to the new scenes??? e.g. Terminator 2 style. or is it actually two complete versions of the movie on the same disc (sounds unlikely). too bad, hope someones releases a better rip.

Since ALLiANCE has retail...I say they just rip the theater version too. That would clear everything up

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Posted by Extractor on 06-13-2004 02:54 PM:

It's technically possible to rip both version on one disc if it is seamless branching, also using CCE as an encoder. I usually don't care about it when the DC version just has additional scenes but in this care it has different scenes and a total different ending.

Posted by bcool2k on 06-13-2004 11:41 PM:

Fantastic DVDR and Audio Commentary and Directors cut only.. I'll take it.. Lose the new ending though.. bah.....

Great Job ALLiANCE!!!

9.5/9.5/9

Posted by bcool2k on 06-13-2004 11:44 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by eighty5
Region 1 Retail dvd and it doesnt come with English subtitles.

Thanks guys, you told me right there not to download your fake release.

Nice try

Looks to me like you speak English what u complaining about.. Of course its retail... Menu maybe altered but Dir cut and Audio commentary are all that would fit without a loss in quality..

Posted by DethStar on 06-14-2004 02:47 AM:

I am impressed with this release... just wish it was widescreen..

Posted by jpcdvj on 06-14-2004 03:28 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by DethStar
I am impressed with this release... just wish it was widescreen..

You may want to double check your copy because it is most definatly wide screen

Posted by ToolTime on 06-14-2004 09:46 AM:

Been having problems with my apex lately i dunno but anyways this release is pretty good but it got stripped of everything basically the menu is untouched but all the extras are rapped. like stated about no subs at all but they do have the DC audio which is kind of cool. It sucks that it doesn't have the other ending of the movie but oh well.

As for the ratings

10/10/8

Pretty damn good movie

Posted by solidusuk on 06-14-2004 02:20 PM:

well thats bad isnt it, I didnt like the fact the option for Directors Cut or Theaterical comes up why didnt they remove that?????

Otherwise very good, but thats really annoying me now I feel as though ive missed something important.

Why couldnt they keep both???
is it cuz retail has got both full versions of each movies on it???

its must be like full DVD-9 !!!

Posted by porco556 on 06-14-2004 04:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by solidusuk
well thats bad isnt it, I didnt like the fact the option for Directors Cut or Theaterical comes up why didnt they remove that?????

Otherwise very good, but thats really annoying me now I feel as though ive missed something important.

Why couldnt they keep both???
is it cuz retail has got both full versions of each movies on it???

its must be like full DVD-9 !!!

If the retail was done correctly, the two different versions are in the same VOB files, except there are two different VOBID paths (or you can also do it by angles). Alot of movies do this, especially recently with the rush of "unrated" versions (American Wedding was a good example).

It would have been really simple to rip both. All they needed to do is completely extract the VOBs untouched. Which then makes me think the video actually is re-encoded and that's why only one version of the movie is there due to lack of knowledge (encode and then re-create the VOBIDs exactly so the menu picks up on it is not the easiest thing).

I am just going to buy this one since it is a good movie (despite Ahston's presence in it)

ADDED NOTE: After looking at the VOBs, the possibility is also that there just wasn't enough space for both versions and the HUGE ass menu. The disc is pretty packed. But there is also no evidence of untouched video also, but the video does look pretty good.

Posted by videoFreak on 06-14-2004 11:25 PM:

I had to register just to let you guys know....

if you look at the menu screens in menuedit you will notice that the screen you would see after the directors/theatrical version screen if you selected theatrical (which you can't get to because the button was diabled) flashes a screen that says turn over the disc for theatrical version... this implies that it was a DVD9 flipper with directors on one side and theatrical on the other.

Which makes me says why did thestudio author like this and not just make it seamless branched like every other DVD that does this.

Posted by jeff__bates on 06-15-2004 03:01 AM:

9/10 - video
9/10 - sound
8/10 - movie

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