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Posted by bcool2k on 11-22-2004 06:47 PM:

NUKED: pal...

An odd reason, but be fair, its NOT labeled as such..basically nothing wrong with it other than some sites dont allow pal

Posted by overdrive on 11-22-2004 07:29 PM:

hmmm... no menus, may aswell just get the svcd

Posted by Redemption1980 on 11-22-2004 07:37 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by overdrive
hmmm... no menus, may aswell just get the svcd

Yeah, and menus are the only reason DVD's are better than SVCD's.
The higher resolution, higher bitrate, and 5.1 sound dont make a difference.

As for the Nuke for being PAL, first Ive heard it, crazy if it is, as most of the time PAL is better quality.

This is nice for a screener, could be easily passed a DVD-Rip, sound is great too.

9/9/?

Posted by omega59 on 11-22-2004 08:54 PM:

do dvd scrn usually have menus??

Posted by crackerjax on 11-22-2004 11:51 PM:

First of all ... PAL/NTSC has nothing to do with quality ... just FPS. So whoever said that PAL was better quality than NTSC releases, needs to check their eyes again.

Second of all ... no, usually DVDSCR do NOT have menus, no need for them really, as there are no extras on the screener discs. Meant to play on repeat all day at blockbuster (or other respective rental joints).

Decent Quality ... will wait for the retail DVDR so I can file this one away on my shelves. Good movie, worth watching once every 3 to 4 years. Nice Release TEG-DVD.

Posted by xDRUNKx on 11-23-2004 12:18 AM:

PAL

Since PAL has more lines of resolution than NTSC, yeah, the quality is better.

Posted by hackteck on 11-23-2004 12:23 AM:

quality was good i'll probly download the svcd though dont wanna waste a dvdr till the r1 retail

8/9/7

Posted by inipi on 11-23-2004 01:43 AM:

How you can have around 200 posts to this forum and not know PAL has a higher resolution (and therefore better picture) than NTSC is beyond me...

Posted by JoshNya on 11-23-2004 02:20 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by bcool2k
NUKED: pal...

Most JAP and USA sites NUKE PAL, just because it's PAL. PAL isn't as universal (can play on all players) as NTSC.

Posted by Redemption1980 on 11-23-2004 02:33 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by crackerjax
First of all ... PAL/NTSC has nothing to do with quality ... just FPS. So whoever said that PAL was better quality than NTSC releases, needs to check their eyes again.

It more than just FPS, PAL has a higher resolution than NTSC so with a good bitrate, it wll look slightly sharper, also NTSC was designed for Black and White, unlike PAL, so it also has better color.
TBH most people cant tell the difference, but it is there.
Do Region1 DVD players still stuggle with PAL, i though Universal players were becoming more of the norm now.

Posted by Kleine_Muck on 11-23-2004 05:10 PM:

quote:

Language :: English, German, Nepali
http://www.vcdreview.com/info.php/i-44057.html

That does not tune however the language is there only English

Posted by aTTicA on 11-23-2004 09:25 PM:

its a tradeoff ntsc has slightly higher fraps pal has slightly higher resolution.. i dont think either is really better than the other. However i live in the US and my pioneer dvd player does not play pal. i think the nuke is for not putting it in the rls name. At any rate this retails in like a month or 2 anywyas.. late dvdscr. im jsut ognna wait a few weeks for a R1 retail dvdr

Posted by ~$t&lker~ on 11-23-2004 11:06 PM:

pic/10
film/10
audio/8....did anyone else notice a slight high pitch whine?

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Posted by jimboe on 11-24-2004 12:50 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ~$t&lker~
pic/10
film/10
audio/8....did anyone else notice a slight high pitch whine?

video is 10
audio gets 6 because of that omni-present annoying metallic "tinnyness".

Posted by inipi on 11-24-2004 01:22 AM:

quote:
its a tradeoff ntsc has slightly higher fraps pal has slightly higher resolution..

NTSC does indeed have a slightly higher framerate. But how does it get that higher framerate when the movie was originally 24 frames per second?
It artificially makes the extra 6 frames from the exisiting 24 *real* frames, using a combination of fields, in a telecine process.
It's a rather nasty kludge.
PAL's kludge is to speed the movie up by 4% to go from 24 frames to 25 frames per second. After pitch correction on the audio you can't tell the difference though.

Posted by Essefgy on 11-24-2004 02:29 AM:

Thanks. I thought I was the only one who ended up with bad sound. Funny how the video looks so good but the sound is so scratchy.

Posted by raexon on 11-24-2004 10:54 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Redemption1980
Yeah, and menus are the only reason DVD's are better than SVCD's.
The higher resolution, higher bitrate, and 5.1 sound dont make a difference.

As for the Nuke for being PAL, first Ive heard it, crazy if it is, as most of the time PAL is better quality.

This is nice for a screener, could be easily passed a DVD-Rip, sound is great too.

9/9/?

All those things together make it worth the download, otherwise it's too much time and bandwith.

Posted by Arthur Daily on 11-24-2004 04:09 PM:

verry nice

Dolby Digital 5.1 448Kbps
no trailers at the start
zipped from start to finish at 32x and didnt see any B&W or water marks.
no Tickers (property of etc etc)

so yes, as was said above it could pass as retail.
with no menus or extras ofcorse

more dvd screeners like this plz

PS i only ever noticed the FPS pal v ntsc thing back when playing Tekken on the PS1.
ntsc was faster naturly.

but as for movies i dont notice it now.
with progressive scan and all the knobs n wistles now days it dont make a diffrence to me.

Posted by chr on 11-24-2004 07:22 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ~$t&lker~
pic/10
film/10
audio/8....did anyone else notice a slight high pitch whine?

yes i did notice that also.

Posted by pedantics on 11-25-2004 05:20 AM:

9 / 5 / ?

absolutely BEAUTIFUL picture quality

audio doesn't actually seem to be in 5.1 channels - I did a quick scan through the movie (that's right, there's NO CHAPTER STOPS) and was getting nothing out of left/right/surrounds. and yes, there's a high pitched whine in the background throughout the whole film (which can be EQ'd out - with some compromise to the dialogue quality).

good enough to watch, but far from perfect audio takes this off the "must get" list.

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