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Posted by porco556 on 12-16-2004 05:42 AM:

Oh baby... Christmas is early this year And I must say I am pleased with Corrupt too (despite some of their "authoring problems" which never impacted me)! New group is sure hitting up the big hits early. Getting it now, but sounds good (untouched video again... my personal fav).

::EDIT:: Is this the "Un-Rated" version? I think there is only an un-rated edition coming out.

Posted by Mercenary13 on 12-16-2004 05:53 AM:

this movie is great cant wait to watch it agian

Posted by JoshNya on 12-16-2004 06:30 AM:

I think this is the RATED Verion

I think I'll wait for the Unrated Extended Version.

Posted by Air1 on 12-16-2004 08:10 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by JoshNya
I think this is the RATED Verion

I think I'll wait for the Unrated Extended Version.

what makes you think it's rated? b/c the menu doesn't say 'unrated' or doesn't appear to be? i'm just curious, i'm not disrespecting or saying you're wrong. just curious.

had to rate this rls a 10/na/10 --

b/c 10/10/10 not allowed (even though people do it) b/c it IS untouched video and the MOVIE was the funniest comedy of the year. Dodgeball comes in at a close 2nd for me and maybe 50 First Dates a 3rd. can't think of any other memorable comedies of the past year....

anyway if this is the rated version i'll dl the rated version too. why not? i'm a movie collector and i'd love to see some of the unrated stuff. this movie rocks and i'll probably buy it.

Posted by Jc100 on 12-16-2004 03:33 PM:

BE WARNED>>>>>> RIPPED BY THIS DAMN GROUPS MEANS STRIPPED.... I had my heart set on the special features and its fucking locked... thanks for fucking that nfo up... Can i have my BW and DVD back. For this ill give you a manual to the english language so you understand the word RIPPED.

Posted by porco556 on 12-16-2004 04:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jc100
BE WARNED>>>>>> RIPPED BY THIS DAMN GROUPS MEANS STRIPPED.... I had my heart set on the special features and its fucking locked... thanks for fucking that nfo up... Can i have my BW and DVD back. For this ill give you a manual to the english language so you understand the word RIPPED.

Yes! You go girl... Here is the manual to the english language for the word rip (ripped):

use force to remove something: to remove something from a place where it had been firmly set, especially by tearing it out forcibly without taking time or care
(nb.: Most of the original features of the house were ripped out.)

Oh wait, the NFO was correct.

:: EDIT :: <--- SARCASM

:: EDIT :: You know, that definition really defines CoRRuPT

Especially the part "without taking time or care"... haha... But seriously, unless it's a DVD-5, there's NO way could ALL the extras and untouched video be present.

Posted by KrackZaa on 12-16-2004 04:03 PM:

what the hell did u think ripped meant

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Posted by Extractor on 12-16-2004 04:54 PM:

this is the theatrical cut. Anyone know if that PAL version is the extended?

Posted by porco556 on 12-16-2004 05:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Extractor
this is the theatrical cut. Anyone know if that PAL version is the extended?

Yep... This is for sure the theatrical... 88 mins and 14 seconds, and the un-rated is 93 minis (5 bonus minutes of who knows what).

I'm getting sick of all these "Un-rated" and "rated" versions. I liked what American Pie did with the crossed VOBs. That way you choose on the ONE SINGLE DVD which version you want. I'm sure other movies done it too. I mean, come on, they do it all the time with French and English credits (VOBs stream switches and bang you've got French credits, or English credits...). Ah well. It's free, can't complain. Worse part is I'm buying the un-rated... So I mind as well keep the rated and add it inside the case.

Posted by Jc100 on 12-16-2004 06:42 PM:

BIG difference between ripped and ripped out . I ripped the movie means you took the contents and made a copy.. Ripped out the extras means taken out bro... in context of copying.... so lets not be all smartass here.. RIPPED = copied... and you know it, I know it, and so the nfo lies.

Posted by Extractor on 12-16-2004 07:12 PM:

Yeah, I hate the term "UNRATED" I only speak of extended and theatrical cut. In earlier times UNRATED stood for "more violent or more sex than an R-rating would have allowed". Now they just don't have the extended version rated in order to advertise with the UNRATED term.

Think American Pie 1 was the first of that kind. At least when you compare the two versions, you notice besides a pair of tits and a different angle of that pie scene, there is no difference. As if that version wasn't suitable even for the prude american theatres.

I agree with porco that seamless branching is the way to go. It's been used on several DVDs (Alien DC, Robocop DC, American Pie 3 unrated, etc). That credit thing is a bit different though. When they use different credits language in Disney movies or whereever, they mostly use "Multiple Angle". While Seamless Branching needs to be a different PGC because it can vary in LENGTH (unrated or DC's are usually longer than the theatrical cut while credits in different language usually have the same length).

The only negative aspects of seamless branching is that some really gay cheapo players have trouble with it (fuck them if they can't make the specs) and that they need to encode the movie as CLOSED GOP (which means a quality loss, at least on lower bitrates... guess explaining this would take to long).

Posted by Jaded4Ten on 12-16-2004 07:38 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jc100
BIG difference between ripped and ripped out . I ripped the movie means you took the contents and made a copy.. Ripped out the extras means taken out bro... in context of copying.... so lets not be all smartass here.. RIPPED = copied... and you know it, I know it, and so the nfo lies.

DVD9s usually say "complete"

Rip implies that something is missing or at least downsampled

Posted by porco556 on 12-16-2004 07:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jc100
BIG difference between ripped and ripped out . I ripped the movie means you took the contents and made a copy.. Ripped out the extras means taken out bro... in context of copying.... so lets not be all smartass here.. RIPPED = copied... and you know it, I know it, and so the nfo lies.

Ripped I think (in my opinion) became a slang/scene word. I will admit I do use that expression (proof in link below):

http://forum.vcdq.com/showthread.ph...d=51272#newpost

It's just that you attacked with the "manual to the English language" thing that got me going

But going by the English dictionary, "rip" is remove. Technically, if you keep what is "ripped", then you are correct. But then, you mind as well drop the word "ripped" and just use the word "kept" or "removed".

Either way, I think we need a "Warez-ford Dictionary"

I don't think the dictionaries will ever incorporate the scene words and definition.

Posted by Extractor on 12-16-2004 07:47 PM:

By the way,

the CORRuPT (r1) release has a total time of: 01:28:15
the SuperHero (nordic PAL) release has a total time of: 01:23:41 (converted to NTSC FILM: 01:27:16)

don't know where the 1 minute difference comes from (probably different pretrailers or more black after the credits, although 1 minute is much) but if the UNRATED is supposed to be 93 minutes, neither of them is unrated.

Posted by porco556 on 12-16-2004 07:51 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Extractor
Yeah, I hate the term "UNRATED" I only speak of extended and theatrical cut. In earlier times UNRATED stood for "more violent or more sex than an R-rating would have allowed". Now they just don't have the extended version rated in order to advertise with the UNRATED term.

Think American Pie 1 was the first of that kind. At least when you compare the two versions, you notice besides a pair of tits and a different angle of that pie scene, there is no difference. As if that version wasn't suitable even for the prude american theatres.

I agree with porco that seamless branching is the way to go. It's been used on several DVDs (Alien DC, Robocop DC, American Pie 3 unrated, etc). That credit thing is a bit different though. When they use different credits language in Disney movies or whereever, they mostly use "Multiple Angle". While Seamless Branching needs to be a different PGC because it can vary in LENGTH (unrated or DC's are usually longer than the theatrical cut while credits in different language usually have the same length).

The only negative aspects of seamless branching is that some really gay cheapo players have trouble with it (fuck them if they can't make the specs) and that they need to encode the movie as CLOSED GOP (which means a quality loss, at least on lower bitrates... guess explaining this would take to long).

I believe you're right, but ironically, I've ripped (HAHA, there I go using that word again) Shanghai Noon english PGCs (OR was it the English angle?) and I also did American Wedding the exact same way (with IFO edit, kept only the PGCs that corresponded to the Unrated). I guess it's similar when "ripping" the movie, but re-encoding it would be MUCH harder (especially the chapters for both).

Ack... I think my favorite method is the Butterfly Effect method. DVD-5 flipper disc. One side "director's cut" one side "theatrical"

haha Straight copy.

:: EDIT :: Ya, the un-rated I read off a site was 93 mins... But personally, when I have it in my hands, I'll then 100% believe it. But 5 mins sounds about right to "justify" the un-rated'ness of the release

Posted by Extractor on 12-16-2004 08:02 PM:

You can rip movies including seamless branching, also with CCE encoding. You need to extract the video as VOB-IDs then encode with CCE (closed GOP enabled) then build it together in Scenarist. Quite some work though (prolly easier to do a DVD9 copy these days, heh... getting cheaper too).

Posted by WildFxP on 12-16-2004 10:08 PM:

anothr topic?

shouldn't this kind of stuff be discussed elsewhere (another thread)? i always thought this was just for rating the movie...

also, i hope the people that rated the movie ACTUALLY watched this release. Watched as in, DLed it and went through the whole movie (not the sample).

Posted by porco556 on 12-16-2004 10:26 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Extractor
You can rip movies including seamless branching, also with CCE encoding. You need to extract the video as VOB-IDs then encode with CCE (closed GOP enabled) then build it together in Scenarist. Quite some work though (prolly easier to do a DVD9 copy these days, heh... getting cheaper too).

Ya, that's an insane amount of work. If a movie means that much to me I'll buy it or do the DVD-9 route. So many good movies coming out though.

Posted by Disillusion on 12-16-2004 11:45 PM:

Wow this release looks craptacular...
I'm sure that dvdshrink was used but if
it wasnt I'm sure as hell not buying this.
6/9/10

I watched it all the way thru and its the unrated version
as there were a few things not in the theatrical one.

Posted by pHo on 12-16-2004 11:51 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Disillusion
I'm sure that dvdshrink was used

Release notes: Video-Untouched

yes, obviously dvd shrink was used... *sigh*
and imo, ripped very obviously means "not there." hence a game RIP is called.. a RIP.. because there are things missing....

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