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Posted by porco556 on 12-16-2004 04:50 PM:

WOW... Christmas is here for sure now... Way to go Corrupt. I'm getting this after Harold and Kumar finish... Geez...

This is a GOOD comedy (my number one of the year!!). But you need a bit of British background (especially the show "Spaced") to get all the jokes. But even if you don't get ALL the jokes, it's still a damn funny movie!!

RIPPED = STRIPPED = REMOVED. This means, NO extras (just in case we get a Harold and Kumar repeat).

My PAL release might get company in the case (the PAL is technically better though... HMM)...

Posted by JoshNya on 12-16-2004 04:54 PM:

Doubt PAL is better, but its exactly the same release, as to the ntsc internal pred 3 months ago. No reason to upgade here.

BTW Ill wait for Kumar Extended Edition... I hate downloading the same movie more then once in both cases.

Posted by Redemption198 on 12-16-2004 05:06 PM:

The PAL release should look a bit better, but i doubt anyone could see the difference.

Wasn't the NTSC Internal a re-encode of the PAL release.

Still haven't saw this film, so i'll probably get this

Posted by porco556 on 12-16-2004 05:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JoshNya
Doubt PAL is better, but its exactly the same release, as to the ntsc internal pred 3 months ago. No reason to upgade here.

BTW Ill wait for Kumar Extended Edition... I hate downloading the same movie more then once in both cases.

The whole PAL versus NTSC thing is down to two pros/cons...

NTSC PRO: You can share it with your friends whole don't have a PAL standalone player (such as your DV-333).

PAL PRO: PAL resolution is 720x576, while NTSC is 720x480.

Now for the stupid part. IF you play a PAL DVD on a NTSC player than can play PAL movies, it will simply remove 176 lines from the picture (it will not resize it). Since PAL is interlaced only (I might get my ass kicked on this statement), they can pull it off I guess. I DO see once in a while a flashing scanline on my TV.

BUT, if you use PowerDVD (turn OFF hardware acceleration!! It makes it look semi-interlaced) and connect it to a TV with DVI or VGA, it looks amazing.

Here is a cool read. http://www.videophile.info/Review/FOTR/FOTR_01.htm

:: EDIT :: Oh and this is pretty decent too... For beginners (NOT saying you... Anyone interested in the difference between PAL and NTSC.)

http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Articl...C/PALvsNTSC.asp

BTW< you're right. It is the normal edition of Harold and Kumar... Only 88 mins and 14 seconds

Son of a bitch... Looks like I am downloading it twice

<-- Actually, the extras on this will be worth it... Buying it afterall (Un-Rated that is)

Posted by Mother on 12-16-2004 09:34 PM:

PAL/NTSC - what you need to know

Posted by porco556 on 12-16-2004 10:20 PM:

I've actually got a question for PAL, and see if you may know.

I tried converting a PAL film to NTSC (DVD to DVD), but I failed. When I rip the video, it gives me 20 FPS video. And as a result, no encoder will transcode that for me (23.976, 24, 25, 30 FPS only).

ANY help would be sweet... As this whole PAL/NTSC has me going crazy.

Posted by Redemption198 on 12-17-2004 02:34 AM:

porco556, what are you using to rip the video, and what software are you planning to use to do the encoding and authoring.

Also are you wanting to keep the menus or is it just the movie.

Posted by porco556 on 12-17-2004 06:02 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Redemption1980
porco556, what are you using to rip the video, and what software are you planning to use to do the encoding and authoring.

Also are you wanting to keep the menus or is it just the movie.

hehe... I guess I forgot those details... Movie only is fine

Ok, I tried to rip the movie with DVD2AVI and then frameserved it with VFAPI. Then I was going to encode it with CCE 2.5... Basically I was doing what I do for a NTSC movie.

It told me (when I was trying to encode) that it only supports 23.976, 24, 25 or 30 FPS video.

I am positive I am doing something wrong.

Oh ya... For authoring, I can use anything but Scenarist (ack... too much for me

I prefer Maestro personally). But I am sure I can figure Scenarist out, have to learn someday.

BTW< is there a program to convert PAL --> NTSC (for example, say I have a PAL DVD-5 that I want to turn into a NTSC DVD-5 without downsampling... Aside from losing 176 horizontal lines per frame)?

Thanks BTW! Any help is good.

Posted by Redemption198 on 12-17-2004 12:11 PM:

Im not sure where you have went wrong, so i'll give you a quick run through of what i would usually do.
I prefer to use avisynth, but VFAPI can be used too, if thats easier.

Either rip the DVD to your HD in File mode, or extract the VIDEO_TS folder from the ISO if not already.
Load the first movie VOB into DVD2AVI, usually VTS_01_1.VOB, and the others will be added automatically.
Go to Help and tick VFAPI plugin if its not already ticked, and Audio, Track 1, and Demux, then File and Save Project.
Now load the d2v file into VFAPI, and convert it, and then load the outputted avi into CCE.
Double click on the avi you added and click on Video, then Set and check 23.976, hit OK, change what other setting you need then encode.

Afterwards you will have to run Pulldown to get it to 29.97 and use BeSweet to slow down the audio, but Ive managed to do it with some music videos there and they worked fine.

At what point, and what program complains about the framerate being wrong?

quote:
BTW< is there a program to convert PAL --> NTSC (for example, say I have a PAL DVD-5 that I want to turn into a NTSC DVD-5 without downsampling... Aside from losing 176 horizontal lines per frame)[/B]

That depends on what doesn't play the PAL DVD, if its your DVD player then there is a Patch method that might work, if its your TV that wont play it, then no, you have to re-encode.

Posted by porco556 on 12-17-2004 04:15 PM:

Redmption1980,

Ya, that's pretty much what I do myself, except I use VFAPI instead of AVISynth (which might be the difference).

After I use VFAPI, I go into CCE 2.5, that's where it complains that the video I am trying to encode is 20FPS. The funny thing is, IT might be at 20 FPS. The movies I tried were Czech, and they are pretty low budget and might have some messed up/cheap stuff over there. Maybe it's PAL, but not true PAL.

I will try it again with AVISynth, that might have been the difference. Thanks for the help though! I probably would have forgotten about the sound slow down

Posted by Redemption198 on 12-18-2004 02:05 AM:

porco556, I doubt the framerate will be different, as PAL is pretty standardised.

Load the VOBS into DVD2AVI and hit F5 to preview it, it will tell you there what the framerate is, or open the vobs in PowerDVD to get the framerate, it could be a dodgy version of DVD2AVI or VFAPI.

You could also try a newer version of CCE, I get better and faster results form 2.67, despite what i was told by some people, it could also be the problem with this too.

Posted by omega59 on 12-19-2004 04:23 PM:

movie was very stupid, time to toss it into the trash!

video: 10 (for untouched)
audio 10 (audio is audio)

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