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Posted by Academy Membe on 01-17-2005 10:59 PM:

This was surely needed the hafvcd rip was nightmare. Thanks you Pv for you recent dedication and hope you get your thingy worked out. Would be glad to see more high end vhs screeners considering during the off season of screeners you basicly get vhs untill oscar time. 9/9/7

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Posted by OASVstar on 01-17-2005 11:29 PM:

Another seed of chucky releaese SO MANY am waiting for the RETAIL already anyways

A: 9
V:7

Movie: 6 1/2 WHY???

Because it was a bit funny thats it

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Posted by Horton on 01-18-2005 12:06 AM:

A for the IDEA, E for the execution. sure VCD screeners blow me harder then a korean hooker, but please dont start duping VCD :/


Posted by BlackOut on 01-18-2005 12:33 AM:

Good job Pv. Really good rel

9/9/?


Posted by Neversoft on 01-18-2005 12:40 AM:

IMPORTANT, PLEASE READ

1 NO REQUESTING MOVIES OR SAMPLES

2 DO NOT DISCUSS WHERE TO DOWNLOAD MOVIES OR SAMPLES

3 NO FLAMING

4 NO "SPOILERS"

5 COMMENT ON THIS RELEASE, NOT WHAT OTHER GROUPS MAY OR MAY NOT RELEASE

6 ONLY COMMENT IF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS RELEASE OR A SAMPLE OF IT

7 NO DISCUSSING ILLEGAL TRADING/SELLING. IF YOU SELL COPIES, GO AWAY YOU'RE NOT WELCOME HERE


*** PEOPLE IGNORING THE ABOVE RULES WILL BE BANNED ***


Posted by MarketMakerz on 01-18-2005 01:04 AM:

utterly absurd rls,
should be .internal.

here's snapshots of why its nuked:

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/2684/se...enerhafvcdv.jpg

1. its most likely stolen source as both are have the exact same top/bottom/left/right crop area, almost down to the millimeter.
2. taking the same source and reencoding it to a slightly better quality is never allowed, otherwise there would be a dozen rls for every TS.SVCD and screener.
3. i watched the ~4min mark in the audio of hafvcd's rls as mentioned on the other thread....didnt notice any audio freeze problems
4. as for the actual quality....Pv's seems brighter, and less grainy, and sound seems bigger, but that just bcz its louder. but hafvcd's seems sharper when looking close-in; tho haf's grainy-ness is worse in pv's
5. HafVCD = Video: MPEG-1 ~1.1 Mpbs Audio: MPEG 2.0 223 Kbps
6. -Pv = Video: MPEG-2 ~2.4 Mpbs Audio: MPEG 2.0 223 Kbps


Posted by Horton on 01-18-2005 01:08 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by MarketMakerz
utterly absurd rls,
should be .internal.

here's snapshots of why its nuked:

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/2684/se...enerhafvcdv.jpg

1. its most likely stolen source as both are have the exact same top/bottom/left/right crop area, almost down to the millimeter.
2. taking the same source and reencoding it to a slightly better quality is never allowed, otherwise there would be a dozen rls for every TS.SVCD and screener.
3. i watched the ~4min mark in the audio of hafvcd's rls as mentioned on the other thread....didnt notice any audio freeze problems
4. as for the actual quality....Pv's seems brighter, and less grainy, and sound seems bigger, but that just bcz its louder. but hafvcd's seems sharper when looking close-in; tho haf's grainy-ness is worse in pv's
5. HafVCD = Video: MPEG-1 ~1.1 Mpbs Audio: MPEG 2.0 223 Kbps
6. -Pv = Video: MPEG-2 ~2.4 Mpbs Audio: MPEG 2.0 223 Kbps




your picture talks about it being a proper - i think in the NFO there trying to say theyre setting an example, by doing something new - possibly starting to dupe VCD screeners [that are out, such as here] with a SVCD encode - not necessarily something i agree with, but more the merrier ?


Posted by bcool2k on 01-18-2005 02:27 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Horton
your picture talks about it being a proper - i think in the NFO there trying to say theyre setting an example, by doing something new - possibly starting to dupe VCD screeners [that are out, such as here] with a SVCD encode - not necessarily something i agree with, but more the merrier ?


Sorry guys but the the SCENE has decided that this is NOT allowed.


Nuked:

Seed.Of.Chucky.SVCD.SCREENER.READNFO-Pv

Reason: reencoded.propering.for.minor.quality.improvement.never.allowed


Posted by ESPN on 01-18-2005 02:28 AM:

How bout...the better the quality, the merrier


Posted by Arthur Daily on 01-18-2005 02:56 AM:

i must agree, its not that much better than the other one,
even with there so called fancey gizmo.

i for one think its verry strange that a grp
should be so open about there workings.
why tell us about the TXLR they got
from god knows where, if at all they have one.
you wanna inpress ?
then let your releaces speak for themselves.
nobody needs to know what you got
for christmass.


too much info = irresponsible or Bull


Posted by T-H-E-W-H-O on 01-18-2005 03:03 AM:

its a shame that you guys put them down so easy. If you read the nfo, and have apreciation for advances in technology, you would apreciate the people at Pv trying to inovate shit and try something new. Pv, thanks for the experimentation. I like to see groups trying new things.

gracias.


Posted by Horton on 01-18-2005 03:16 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by bcool2k
Sorry guys but the the SCENE has decided that this is NOT allowed.


Nuked:

Seed.Of.Chucky.SVCD.SCREENER.READNFO-Pv

Reason: reencoded.propering.for.minor.quality.improvement.never.allowed




thats someone opinion - that does not represent 'the scene' - it isnt a place or a thing, one decision doesnt make all, stop talking nonsense.


Posted by se7ensoftware on 01-18-2005 03:42 AM:

the trend started with the SVCD.TS-CTP everyone always called them dupes of VCD.TS but eventually it became an accepted pratice that SVCD.TS doesn't dupe VCD.TS Like someone said earlier I think they are just trying to raise scene standards for VHS Screeners, which if the quality of the tape warrants it I think it is acceptable, I think SVCD.Screener should be treated the same as SVCD.TS nuke it if it sucks otherwise be thankful for the release. This is by far the best release of this flick out. picture and audio are right on.

8/9/movie grows on ya.. ;-)

But we should stop bashing groups for trying to bring us quality releases. I am sure if it doesn't work out they will stop or if your siteop doesn't think they belong then they won't be on your site taking up HDD space or wasting BW. So kudos to Pv for bringing about another innovation. Look forward to future SVCD.Screener-Pv

::EDIT:: checked spelling and fixed mistakes i saw ;-)


Posted by Lab on 01-18-2005 03:48 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by se7ensoftware
But we should stop bashing groups for trying to bring us quality releases. I am sure if it doesn't work out they will stop or if your siteop doesn't think they belong then they won't be on your site take up HDD space or wasting BW. So kudos to Pv for bringing about another innovation. Look forward to future SVCD.Screener-Pv [/B]


Posted by VonRashniek on 01-18-2005 04:23 AM:

not much better

Well it is better than hafvcd's, and I prolly woulda grabbed this.
But it's really not that much better, and for them to say haf's was pure shit. LOL! haf has been around a long time, and has brought us way more releases than they prolly ever will. Why they would bash a good "old" group is beyond me. When their quality wasnt much better.
8/8/movie is pure shit =P

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Posted by alanisrox69 on 01-18-2005 05:19 AM:

finally, a group that understands how I think!

I can't stand VCD Screeners, that ruins the whole purpose of releasing it in my opinion. VCD is generally too pixelated and just not good overall. Why release a Telesync (cammed in a theater) in SVCD when the Screener is much better quality yet suffice it to VCD ?

well, keep em coming PV! It's about time SVCD Screeners come along.

Downloaded the first few rars, and I'd say

8.5/9/?

Video down points for the scrollers, but hey, doesn't bother me!

-Derek-


Posted by a1catraz on 01-18-2005 06:30 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Horton
thats someone opinion - that does not represent 'the scene' - it isnt a place or a thing, one decision doesnt make all, stop talking nonsense.


word


Posted by ^Om3n on 01-18-2005 08:08 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Horton
thats someone opinion - that does not represent 'the scene' - it isnt a place or a thing, one decision doesnt make all, stop talking nonsense.

Err, actually thats the MAJORITY of the 'scenes' opinion.
And to clarify, when i say the 'scenes opinion' i am refering to those who are members of a groups counsil, are a 'nuker' for topsites/presite or infact run them, and so on.

There is a very simple reason that VHS screeners are not generally encoded to anything other than VCD, that is because the resolution of a VHS is less than that of an SVCD. Enlarging from such a source isn't the greatest idea. S-VHS on the other hand has a higher resolution, and given the proper capturing and encoding technique's im sure would produce quite a nice SVCD vhs screener.

FYI, Centropy's SVCD TS's were rarely nuked. The reason for this was largely due to timing. There first svcd ts release was of a film not yet availible, the reasons were explained properly in the nfo, and they were are long standing and highly 'respected' group. And of corse, the quiality difference was infact quite substancial.

Personally i dont think a VHS screener should be encoded to SVCD, because the majority of VHS screener tapes are not of the best quality, or are a low generation, to begin with.

As for this release, i have only viewed the sample but it a little improvement over the HafVCD release, although the colors are not so great.

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Posted by ^Om3n on 01-18-2005 08:11 AM:

PS. The world is built on evolution. Everything is always evolving, and so shall the 'scene'

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Posted by motabus on 01-18-2005 09:31 AM:

if anyone thinks a member of a top site takes the time to post on the vcdquality boards.. you are out of ya mind.. If im wrong then the scene really is going down the tubes


and nuked or not everyhing spreads round the "sub-top" sites in a heatbeat anyways.. who gives a crap if its nuked or not. If you want it grab it. the word "top-site" is getting more meaning less as time pass's.


[EDIT:: Thanks for imparting some of your wisdom oh wise one, but next time rate the release (in other words follow the very simple rules) or I'll stab you in the eyes - Neversoft]


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