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Posted by VCDBITCHES on 01-29-2005 12:25 AM:

any one no why?

any one no why the convertor "WINAVI" processes its video encodes so fast.

i have yet to run in to another convertor with such speed.

a movie that would take 4 or 5 hours in diko/tmpgenc/cce/anything

takes 45 mins to an hour with WINAVI. why

what are they doing in there program that the others dont.
i have converted all forms of formats with record speeds.
dvd convertion takes 1 hour 30 mins. why.

if any one here can explain it would help my under standing.

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Posted by gee1556 on 01-29-2005 05:45 AM:

Good question... but from what I've seen, I get better results with TMPGenc than WinAvi.

With WAvi, I had my converted movies with the audio out of sync.
As for pic quality, I didn't seen much differences...

I'll stick with TMPGenc/VirtualDub combo


Posted by chiv on 01-30-2005 05:46 PM:

ive never had a problem with audio syncing - you using version 6?

as for the original question, really good one, no idea...ive found version 6 gives me awesome results, they look good on the pc, so look VERY impressive (to me) on the television...

it probably runs faster because it cuts some corners - of course that means it wont have a nicer result than the others, but as i said, it still looks damn nice, and it does the trick if i just want to dump an xvid movie onto dvd rw to watch on the tv with friends...


Posted by katsushin on 01-31-2005 09:27 AM:

Its fast because it uses a Compressed Domain TRANScoder as opposed to an ENcoder.
simply put:
Mpeg ENcoders work by analysing frames in the stream in relation to each other and then converts the images of the movie into frequencies, using a process called DCT or Discrete Cosine Transform. These frequencies are what facilitate "Compression" thus making the movie a Compressed Domain.
Compressed Domain Transcoders work NOT by returning the frequencies back to images (iDCT) then analysing and re-encoding, but by analysing and changing the DCT data within the compressed domain. That is why it is able to be so much faster. However, depending on the movie you are working with the quality difference can be between none or little all the way to ALOT!
Hope this answers your question.


Posted by dvd r on 02-26-2005 06:46 AM:

wow kat your answer gets a 10 plus !!!


Posted by BGspoonz1 on 03-08-2005 09:35 AM:

Re: any one no why?

quote:
Originally posted by VCDBITCHES
any one no why the convertor "WINAVI" processes its video encodes so fast.
i have yet to run in to another convertor with such speed.
a movie that would take 4 or 5 hours in diko/tmpgenc/cce/anything
takes 45 mins to an hour with WINAVI. why
what are they doing in there program that the others dont.
i have converted all forms of formats with record speeds.
dvd convertion takes 1 hour 30 mins. why.

if any one here can explain it would help my under standing.


ummm, i never had a movie take 4 or 5 hours! I wouldnt let it run that long... TMPG...plus takes me 1hour (regular 1hour50min vid). settings and hardware may play more of a role for you...or convert/encoding from 352x240 to full screen 720x480 can take longer, or added filters, or 1pass/2pass... there are too many parameters to compare encoding/converting speeds unless u state all ur settings and source vid qualities and numbers.

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Posted by katsushin on 03-08-2005 12:42 PM:

Re: Re: any one no why?

quote:
Originally posted by BGspoonz1
... there are too many parameters to compare encoding/converting speeds unless u state all ur settings and source vid qualities and numbers.


Id like to know YOUR settings for the speed you described above. What youre saying is that for an NTSC movie encoded originally using forcefilm, you are re-encoding at 44fps(and thats without executing 3:2 pulldown!) or a PAL movie at 45.83fps.
Would you please list your settings in tmpg, your source (xvid/divx,mpg2 svcd, mpg1 vcd) and its frame size (if xvid/divx), your output file format and bitrate and the encoding method used (single pass cbr, two pass vbr or any in between).

Also, since hardware does play a huge role in encoding speed, what proccessor do you have?
Your post has me very curious because in my experience this speed is unheard of in an mpeg encoder. Especially Tmpg which is generally a good deal slower than CCE.
thanks


Posted by FUCKIN_CUNT on 03-08-2005 07:18 PM:

quote:
ummm, i never had a movie take 4 or 5 hours! I wouldnt let it run that long... TMPG...plus takes me 1hour (regular 1hour50min vid). settings and hardware may play more of a role for you...or convert/encoding from 352x240 to full screen 720x480 can take longer, or added filters, or 1pass/2pass... there are too many parameters to compare encoding/converting speeds unless u state all ur settings and source vid qualities and numbers.


you are a fucking lier. 1 hour my ass, with tmpgenc slow ass.

what you have 10GHZ processor. on lowest motion with a half of pass. 30 min clips dont count




Posted by manal on 03-08-2005 11:09 PM:

in all actuallity, on lowest queslity i do encodemovies in a hour myself,thats on interlace no percision and searc acuracy, anyways im on a athlon xp 2200 1.25 gigs of ram and a geforce fx 5500. but im the type of guy that just plops everything tomax quality and leaves it on while i sleep.


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