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Posted by Chaos on 03-03-2005 02:25 AM:

From Sample

8/8/?

Video - Is nice even in dark scenes.

Audio - is Good

Nice work Oracle


Posted by YooHoo on 03-03-2005 02:33 AM:

From Sample, video is dark, grainy and pixilated. Audio is nearly perfect DTS. Movie is awful.

6/9/2


Posted by IRC_Moviefan on 03-03-2005 02:34 AM:

This is the "Exact" same silver as COBRA's, only difference between the two was COBRA's was MPEG1 (VCD TS) .. how it shoulda been. This one was MPEG2 (SVCD TS) .. waste of bandwith , space & time.

For those who think it doesnt have bad AR , half the screen is clearly missing exactly like the other two copies out there. So now we got the same silver 3 times in 3 different formats.

For my review on how it looks/sounds check: http://forum.vcdq.com/showthread.ph...d=56145#newpost
... dont wanna repeate it again.


Wasted of time ... AVOiD

http://www.geocities.com/britney_sp...CD-ORACLE.2.jpg
(limited bw)
http://svcdshots.netfirms.com/

btw , notice the guy bottom right unnuking that , thats the same wonderful people who nuked TEG's DVDScr (same day for mislabled tc) , nice nukers in the scene.

also bottom picture shows with letters filled in how much is missing from the screen

As a SVCD TS (when already same copy out as vcd ts)

1/1/?


Posted by ozWolfbane on 03-03-2005 03:14 AM:

6/9/?

Audio perfect, Pic is quite dark, could have been easily fixed in encode

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Posted by immun3 on 03-03-2005 03:37 AM:

IRC_Moviefan exactly sums up the problems with this 3rd incarnation of the same poor, cropped and tilted silver above, not much else to say.

The decision to make this SVCD is beyond me. Good DTS audio is present, but for what? Cobra's had that on VCD format.

Video - same as before.....

Audio - nice DTS but frankly wasted on this rls.

6/8/*


Posted by BGspoonz1 on 03-03-2005 05:07 AM:

^^^^^ Thanks for all the detail! Glad to see someone sum it all up, and help avoid the waste of a DL! Thanks...

from a few rars...
V-5 (benefit of the doubt on source)
A-5 (benefit of the doubt on source)
M-3 Will there be a good scary movie this year?

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Posted by Sir Killalot on 03-03-2005 05:17 AM:

COUGH* Yes there is a very slight tilt, Yes it is slightly cropped on all 4 sides, there is full screen capabiity but pic is bad that way. Not recommended for burning. If seen at original size or double, the pic is great. The sound is Just fine. The commercials make it seem better than it is. If watching on the pc at original size I'd give it a 7/8/7


Posted by I Kick Kids on 03-03-2005 05:33 AM:

IRC_Moviefan pretty much covered everything. If u dont believe it, download the .rar on cd1 and see for yourself. If your gonna do a svcd.ts ... dont use the exact same source as a previous horrible vcd.ts ... and honestly it looks even worse than COBRA's.

1/8/? .... dont waste your time with this release


Posted by xXRomeoXx on 03-03-2005 05:34 AM:

7/9/?
Its watchable great job for another new group


Posted by dbg17891 on 03-03-2005 05:57 AM:

RIP Russell Sprague

Rest In Peace Russell Sprague u where a great man in my eyes and to most of teh people on here. Ok now on to rating this shi*.
video 3
audio 9
movie waiting for a decent copy


Posted by Rubberbandman on 03-03-2005 06:35 AM:

anyone else notice the weird sound on disc 2? btw the other ts is out of sync right after 2nd cd


Posted by JonBlaze87 on 03-03-2005 08:45 AM:

Out of curiosity why would any1 even download this crappy movie. sample looks crappy btw...


Posted by Neversoft on 03-03-2005 09:50 AM:


IMPORTANT, PLEASE READ

1 NO REQUESTING MOVIES OR SAMPLES

2 DO NOT DISCUSS WHERE TO DOWNLOAD MOVIES OR SAMPLES

3 NO FLAMING

4 NO "SPOILERS"

5 COMMENT ON THIS RELEASE ONLY (AND ONLY IF YOU'VE SEEN IT)

6 NO "NOOB" QUESTIONS SUCH AS "HOW DO I WATCH THIS?" ASK IN THE APPROPRIATE PART OF THE FORUM

7 NO DISCUSSING TRADING/SELLING. IF YOU SELL COPIES, GO AWAY YOU'RE NOT WELCOME HERE


*** PEOPLE IGNORING THE RULES WILL BE GIVEN ENEMAS ***


Posted by BLUE-NEO on 03-04-2005 02:55 AM:

nothing wrong with this release...great job Oracle...

8/9/? still yet to watch the movie..but good job here.

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Posted by IRC_Moviefan on 03-04-2005 04:10 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by BLUE-NEO
nothing wrong with this release...great job Oracle...

8/9/? still yet to watch the movie..but good job here.



You gotta be shitting me lmao , i hope you were tryin to give everyone a good laugh cause people cant take you serious on your post.

8 for a picture thats clearly missing half the screen, dark, grainy, blurry ... you must seriously be blind or an ORACLE member .

Thanks for the new tagline !

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Posted by Da Postman on 03-04-2005 04:25 AM:

This video gets a better rating then most may give it. The picture is clearer than most TSs and the colors are nice. Others can slam it, but since there isn't much to choose from and other grps releases aren't easy to come by. I can watch this and enjoy it. Sound is good too.

V-7
A-7
M-7


Posted by BLUE-NEO on 03-04-2005 09:11 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by IRC_Moviefan
You gotta be shitting me lmao , i hope you were tryin to give everyone a good laugh cause people cant take you serious on your post.

8 for a picture thats clearly missing half the screen, dark, grainy, blurry ... you must seriously be blind or an ORACLE member .

Thanks for the new tagline !



Guy no need for this, if you feel the need to rate it different...go ahead. Everyone has their own opinion, grow up and stop acting like your rating or opinion is the only thing that matter, and stop being such a jerk and a smart ass, my rating stands..this is fine on my tv. So shut up...

Update..same!

8/9/6 I'm a Wes Craven Fan, but with the supporting cast this film had it should have been better written.

As far as missing half the picture...I mean how many times do we have to say it. Its bootleg not the real dvd. You can't always expect a perfect aspect ratio.

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Posted by IRC_Moviefan on 03-04-2005 10:19 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by BLUE-NEO
As far as missing half the picture...I mean how many times do we have to say it. Its bootleg not the real dvd. You can't always expect a perfect aspect ratio.


Well looking at your Usersname:
BLUE-NEO
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 633

Looks like you have been around awhile. Most people lately are new and are only used to Silvers so vote on Silvers. The only reason i question your high rating is cause i have been around awhile now since ONS, TEG, VERiTY, TCR, Centropy, UTi, InR, LoGiStiC, VideoCD, NEWFXP , ... etc the list goes on & on.

Over the years i have seen all the various TELESYNC's. All the TS's nowadays even Centropy's dont deserve 9's , mabey the sound but definatly not the picture. I rate my releases (vote) on vcdquality compairing it to how i have seen past telesync's over the past years.

"The Scene" , mainly the CAM/TELESYNC part is overcome by Silvers last few months since the actual DV Cam grps are selective on releasing.

Its quite obvious ... i dont watch/like silvers , they glitch , their dark , they flicker, colors bleeding, their blurry and most the time either barley watchable or unwatchable.

Yes i understand TELESYNC's arent "DVD" Source and i dont expect that. If you been around for awhile , which im sure you havent people's standards on TELESYNC's sure have dropped.

Try and get ahold of TELESYNC's from 2 years ago, and then compair them to "Cursed" which you just voted 8 for on a picture and then you will understand my comment. All these silver movies at best deserve a 6 for picture , compaired how telesync's can be.

I miss enjoyable TELESYNC's and unless an actual DV Cam grp releases now , i just view rars to remind me why i dont watch silver and wait for a possible TELECiNE or Screener.

This post btw mod'z isnt a bash but to wake people up , their voting 8's , 9's on horrible Silver movies, when if they seen a real TELESYNC they would understand what this.

Everyone yes is entitled to an opinion. If i was new to movies and only watched whats been released latley sure i might vote and 8 also.... but as i said , when you have seen how nice TELESYNC's can be compaired to the recent flood of silvers ....

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Posted by bcool2k on 03-04-2005 06:15 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by IRC_Moviefan
Well looking at your Usersname:
BLUE-NEO
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 633

Looks like you have been around awhile. Most people lately are new and are only used to Silvers so vote on Silvers. The only reason i question your high rating is cause i have been around awhile now since ONS, TEG, VERiTY, TCR, Centropy, UTi, InR, LoGiStiC, VideoCD, NEWFXP , ... etc the list goes on & on.

Over the years i have seen all the various TELESYNC's. All the TS's nowadays even Centropy's dont deserve 9's , mabey the sound but definatly not the picture. I rate my releases (vote) on vcdquality compairing it to how i have seen past telesync's over the past years.

"The Scene" , mainly the CAM/TELESYNC part is overcome by Silvers last few months since the actual DV Cam grps are selective on releasing.

Its quite obvious ... i dont watch/like silvers , they glitch , their dark , they flicker, colors bleeding, their blurry and most the time either barley watchable or unwatchable.

Yes i understand TELESYNC's arent "DVD" Source and i dont expect that. If you been around for awhile , which im sure you havent people's standards on TELESYNC's sure have dropped.

Try and get ahold of TELESYNC's from 2 years ago, and then compair them to "Cursed" which you just voted 8 for on a picture and then you will understand my comment. All these silver movies at best deserve a 6 for picture , compaired how telesync's can be.

I miss enjoyable TELESYNC's and unless an actual DV Cam grp releases now , i just view rars to remind me why i dont watch silver and wait for a possible TELECiNE or Screener.

This post btw mod'z isnt a bash but to wake people up , their voting 8's , 9's on horrible Silver movies, when if they seen a real TELESYNC they would understand what this.

Everyone yes is entitled to an opinion. If i was new to movies and only watched whats been released latley sure i might vote and 8 also.... but as i said , when you have seen how nice TELESYNC's can be compaired to the recent flood of silvers ....

/end




Nice post and i've been around for awhile. This is definitely a cropped, dark and pixely silver to me. And does NOT deserve an 8 for Picture by any means. ONLY, a true homemade SVCD TS from the likes of the greats of OLD:
When the SCENE L33T pres of VideoCD, UTi, TCF and Centropy did there Tuesday after theatre release damn fine copies. Matrix 2 comes to mind and Spiderman both excellent damn SVCD TS of yester year. Groups like Centropy and VideoCD were NEVER about winning the race. The always stressed Quality over Quantity, and U knew b4 u even checked the sample that 9x outta ten. You were getting the best that the SCENE had to Offer.
Of course there was the issue of the boom mic dropping in from above, but man i miss the good ol days.
All the new groups get NYC silvers and even Subbed cams from overseas, shudder the thought. The scene is slipping but who can blame em when most ppl wouldnt know a good pre if it bit em in the ass. Its all about first to the scene and sloppy thrown together garbage mostly. I still give PROPS to anyone that tries dont get me wrong. I just miss the Excellence of a couple years ago. MEGA PROPS go out to TUN as well, there Telecines just keep getting better and better and i remember when ppl were always hating on em. Well all i have to say is Quality and Respect persevere.

Anyway, as for this film:

The opening frame with the credits shows just how angled to the right this release is.
The sound is nice of course because any damn group can get a DTS theatre source disk these days, but i'm still gonna hold out and wait for a better release.
However, if U must see this now. The movie is watchable. Which is more than i can say for some of the other films preing these days. IT makes u really appreciate what we had when VideoCD, UTi, TCF and Centropy kept giving it their BEST every time out.

From the Sample:

6 (Pic is dark and grainy and angled to the right just watch the opening sequence.
8 DTS Audio of Course
? Awaiting a better PRE i hope.

LONG LIVE THE SCENE!!! RESPECT YOUR ELDERS. ENJOY


Posted by infinityfsp20 on 03-04-2005 08:37 PM:

8/9 is completely stupid for this release, which is basically a dupe anyway, theres no need for an SVCD of a silver with this quality.

I would say 5/8 myself.

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