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Posted by Doomslayer on 03-19-2005 11:51 AM:

Video 10
Audio 10
Movie 6
All Menus there

Posted by omega59 on 03-19-2005 04:49 PM:

interlaced.

Posted by omega59 on 03-19-2005 08:18 PM:

i ran it through dvd2avi and here were MY results.

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/clip.5.jpg

can we say interlaced.. and can we say wtf is with that message? lmfao.

Posted by JoshNya on 03-19-2005 10:25 PM:

Volume Name CHRISTMAS_WITH_THE_KRANKS
Application id Derrow UDF/ISO Applicat
Implementation id Derrow UDF/ISO Library
Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 3/18/2005 20:41:39

Actually this might be worth it. I ran my tests, the DVD was just stripped of FS vobs with DVDXCopy. Not my preference to strip a movie, but I guess it works. I dont know if it altered any menus or not. But as far as the movie goes it appears to be untouched, french track and foreign subs there too. I didnt see any visual signs of interlacing, that pic in DVD2AVI above will display that for any picture.

I don't like MPT, they owe me about 30-40 gigs of credit. But this DVD looks like a no-brainer.

Posted by hackteck on 03-20-2005 03:54 AM:

its gotta be 10/10/4 video is untouched original is dvd9 with fs and ws on the disk fs was ripped so there was no encoding needed finally a nice release from mptdvd lol and i agree with you totally i hate them for making me waste credits only to find out their release was dvdshrink or x but props for this release

Posted by porco556 on 03-20-2005 05:23 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by omega59
i ran it through dvd2avi and here were MY results.

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/clip.5.jpg

can we say interlaced.. and can we say wtf is with that message? lmfao.

A lot of times, stationary credits (no movement) are left interlaced, even on the retails. The video then switches quickly to progressive/film when the actual movie starts. Check the video type on the 2nd VOB and see what it says.

Also, by seeing the interlaced/progressive mix, it's a good indication that the video really is untouched.

Posted by omega59 on 03-20-2005 05:52 AM:

i had checked and still says interlaced.
o'well!

Posted by porco556 on 03-20-2005 06:18 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by omega59
i had checked and still says interlaced.
o'well!

That's messed up then... It's rare to see a NTSC retail that's interlaced these days. Dunno. It's on my D/l block since I haven't seen the traditional MPT nuke yet

It is a R3 retail (assuming from the Chinese, Thai, Korean subtitles), but I doubt that would change anything with the encode.

Posted by willrick on 03-20-2005 12:27 PM:

I ran the second VOB trough DVD2AVI, and it's definitly progressive.

it's at least 99% progressive, with a very few interlaced frames. So, video is untouched.

10/10/4 (The book is so much better)

Posted by dlbyrd40 on 03-20-2005 05:55 PM:

video seems fine on my 27 inch screen. I think it is worth rhe d/l.

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Posted by SHaKiNGBRaVe on 03-21-2005 10:34 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by hackteck
its gotta be 10/10/4 video is untouched original is dvd9 with fs and ws on the disk fs was ripped so there was no encoding needed finally a nice release from mptdvd lol and i agree with you totally i hate them for making me waste credits only to find out their release was dvdshrink or x but props for this release

not to nit pick, but just because it's untouched doesn't make it an automatic 10. dvds from the factory can come with artifacts, etc, that are beyond the group's control. although in this case i agree the video is near perfect, it's not always the case with untouched releases.

9/9/6

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Posted by porco556 on 03-22-2005 01:43 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by SHaKiNGBRaVe
not to nit pick, but just because it's untouched doesn't make it an automatic 10. dvds from the factory can come with artifacts, etc, that are beyond the group's control. although in this case i agree the video is near perfect, it's not always the case with untouched releases.

9/9/6

99% of the time, the video score on this site is relative to the retail copy. If the video is untouched, it's perfect compared to the retail (as in best you'll get until HD-DVD or special edition).

If picture quality reviews is what you seek, then there are hundreds of sites with super picky guys that do it for a living and write full length reviews.

Posted by Redemption1980 on 03-22-2005 11:25 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by porco556
99% of the time, the video score on this site is relative to the retail copy. If the video is untouched, it's perfect compared to the retail (as in best you'll get until HD-DVD or special edition).

If picture quality reviews is what you seek, then there are hundreds of sites with super picky guys that do it for a living and write full length reviews.

While i agree with what u mean in principle, since we dont have the Retail DVD to compare it to every time, the i think we have to review it on how it looks, not whether its Untouched or not, as we dont know if the NFO is correct or not.

SVCD's and XVID's are judged on the quality of the pic, so if the Retail DVD is poor then they will be even worse, so will a DVDR if it has to be re-encoded, and might get a poor score, even though its no fault of the group.

Ive saw excelent Downsampled DVD's getting a 8 and poor quality Untouched get a 10, even though the downsampled one looked better, I dont think thats a fair system, we shouldn't have to know if it Untouched or not to judge it, and im sure load of people read the NFO, see Untouched, 5.1 and give out 10/10 scores, even though they dont have even a sample.

Rant over

Posted by porco556 on 03-23-2005 12:01 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Redemption1980
While i agree with what u mean in principle, since we dont have the Retail DVD to compare it to every time, the i think we have to review it on how it looks, not whether its Untouched or not, as we dont know if the NFO is correct or not.

SVCD's and XVID's are judged on the quality of the pic, so if the Retail DVD is poor then they will be even worse, so will a DVDR if it has to be re-encoded, and might get a poor score, even though its no fault of the group.

Ive saw excelent Downsampled DVD's getting a 8 and poor quality Untouched get a 10, even though the downsampled one looked better, I dont think thats a fair system, we shouldn't have to know if it Untouched or not to judge it, and im sure load of people read the NFO, see Untouched, 5.1 and give out 10/10 scores, even though they dont have even a sample.

Rant over

Hehe... You are also correct also in principle. Good point too when you mention we don't have the retail to compare to. And even if we did, only a very small select few would actually pay money to rent it when they have the "rip" already. And the ironic part is, when a movie is re-encoded, I gripe on flaws that I find out later are in the retail too (ie: The Incredibles for example).

I guess this is the 4th time it has come up in this forum (different threads, different people... can't remember them off hand)... Never any real solutions either. I guess everyone should just continue what they're doing

I actually may start griping on these untouched videos a bit more (especially since I heard Spanglish ain't too hot for untouched, and Christmas with the Kranks' colors looked washed out too [like a early 90's movie]).

8/10 Video

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