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Posted by X69 on 12-09-2005 02:19 PM:

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Posted by porco556 on 12-09-2005 04:18 PM:

An interesting one again... Got the similar dilema that I had with Brothers Grimm. How good was the source to make this look this good?!

Well, per pixel, the bitrate on this release is technically better than Brothers Grimm. So for those that thought Brothers Grimm was awesome, this is better.

Brothers Grimm is a bitrate of 3730kbit/sec (I think) @ 1.85:1. Which is around a 2909kbit/sec @ 2.35:1... (RATIO COMPARE... 2.35 is 78% of the size of 1.85...)

Emily Rose is a bitrate of 3150kbit/sec @ 2.35:1. (or reversely is around a 4038kbit/sec @ 1.85:1)

So for anyone that accepted Grimm, should enjoy this 8% more

But again, how good was that source. The picture DOES look really soft (something I've noticed actually in ALL Replica releases lately), and I am sure that is key. Zero artifacting is impossible at these kinds of bitrates unless you blur things up a bit. Of course, on a CRT, you'll be in heaven. Even on a big TV it was pretty good. I think back to is how nice and sharp the untouched Fantastic Four was, and how blurrly the R1 JKR release was (also without artifacts). This just may be the same.

Video 8/10 - It's soft... That's my only complaint. Standard encoding issues, but that would be at almost any bitrate. No artifacting or any other problems. At 3130kbit/sec, it's as good as it gets.

DVD-R 6/10 - Being a movie only guy for years, I have to stay consistent. Bitrate could have been an easy 1000kbit/sec better, if not untouched... But credit for the effort. Keeping extras (not to mention re-coding them) takes time and glad to see they put quality and time before the stupid "warez race".

A+ for effort. If you like extras, this is a 10/10 release! If you have a 27" CRT, it's a 10/10 release. If you are a picky movie only asshole, it's a 6/10 The above was written from a "movie only" guy's perspective.

Posted by XtremeX on 12-09-2005 06:01 PM:

Put it in my DVD player like any nomral person would & the quality looks just as good as i'd expect from a store bought copy.

10/10/? will watch later

Posted by Air1 on 12-10-2005 01:10 AM:

Very great rls... First dvdr I've watched from start to finish in my Xbox 360... My standalone I think is dying.

10/10/8

I was pleasantly surprised how the movie was written and acted out - Not what I suspected. It's not your typical hollywood horror movie as of late (has a unique approach to it's story telling and it's not very cheezy at all).

I was very happy with it.

porco -- I'm not saying anything you said was inaccurate, but let me say I'm an A/V enthusiast and azzhole-prick but even I disagree with most all of your ratings and thoughts. Not that I think you're wrong, but I do think you're too critical most all of the time. I do appreciate your knowledge and insight, though, because it does surpass that of most.

Posted by porco556 on 12-10-2005 02:59 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Air1
porco -- I'm not saying anything you said was inaccurate, but let me say I'm an A/V enthusiast and azzhole-prick but even I disagree with most all of your ratings and thoughts. Not that I think you're wrong, but I do think you're too critical most all of the time. I do appreciate your knowledge and insight, though, because it does surpass that of most.

I've spent alot of time on this stuff... 99% of the stuff I mention in my posts most people don't care about... I actually agree I am way too critical and I take this way too seriously. I watch around 4 movies a week (usually more). Then when they're available in stores, I rent them, I compare them (usually screen caps at 400%). Usually toss out my current copy for my own rip, and then never watch it again

And then to top it off, I buy them when they are cheap at Blockbuster. So ya, I've got issues

Now I've been starting on the Dual-Layer burnings, which isn't all that much cheaper than buying it second hand at Blockbuster (rental price + the disc = approx price of buying it at $4.99 in couple months)...

As for the ratings... None of us can actually say much of a rating (including myself), especially when we have nothing to compare it to. I usually try to invision what defects wouldn't be in the retail by reverse encoding it in my head (calling the loonie bin myself). But all we can do is vote according to what we see. 8/10 for this release I think is fair (which is what I gave for video... and 10 is what people give "untouched" around here... so it was either 8 or 9). Who knows, I might rent it and say "shit! The retail is soft also..." Then go back to the forum and further post my findings

I think at that point I'd check myself into a mental institute.

BTW< how is the XBox360 for DVD video? It's basically a 720p component player I guess (with the 720p upconversion on regular DVDs)...

Posted by Air1 on 12-10-2005 03:43 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by porco556
BTW< how is the XBox360 for DVD video? It's basically a 720p component player I guess (with the 720p upconversion on regular DVDs)...

Contrary to what you may have heard, the Xbox 360 does -not- upconvert any DVDs. It is progressive scan, though (of course).

Since I've only watched the one DVD in it I can't really say how good it is compared to standalones. I have been impressed (for a console DVD player) but at the same time it's lacking the enjoyable features that seems to be so common place in standalone units these days. I like it, though, and would say it's probably 90% the same quality picture as any standalone I have here at home (I've got some 4-5 standalone units). I will say, though, that the people that have voiced their opinions so far saying "my standalone blows the 360s video out of the water" are very much overexaggerating.

Back in 2000 is when I went nuts for DVDs and I was watching around a dozen a week... I owned more than 550 DVDs that were all bought brand new from Best Buy from 2000-2002. Half of them I never opened and the other half I only watched once. I sold more than 550 of them only keeping a very small few for over $5,000 on eBay to help finance a new car. Ever since then I just get my DVDs non-retail if you know what I mean.

Anyhow, if you're interested, the Xbox 360's video for everything else is unbelievable. I've played many Xbox 1 games in 720p/1080i on my 720p native 50" DLP and although they looked good, none compared to the 360 by far (even though this is a no brainer, I was more surprised than I could have imagined with the 360 games).

Also, the 360 won't play WMV HD discs nor stream them from an XP or XPMCE machine... You have to encode the WMV HD discs onto your pc hard drive in order to stream them to the 360. Hopefully they'll fix this in the future.

Posted by porco556 on 12-10-2005 05:39 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Air1
Also, the 360 won't play WMV HD discs nor stream them from an XP or XPMCE machine... You have to encode the WMV HD discs onto your pc hard drive in order to stream them to the 360. Hopefully they'll fix this in the future.

Hmm... I guess my computer is still the best DVD player (at least for me it is)

I'm still on 720p through DVI myself. Looking for a new player to take advantage of the 1080p, but they are just coming out with 720p players now (seens some 1080p component players... not sure what to make of them)... It seems like technology is never lined up.

Either way, when BD-ROM or HD-DVD come out, all our (at least my) complaints about video will be remedied

haha... Only thing is, we'll get picky and DVD will look like VHS looks to us now

And most likely the cycle will start again...

Posted by Air1 on 12-10-2005 04:21 PM:

I've been talking about Blu-Ray for many years - when a simple search for it only returned two or three hits on google! I was very surprised when information on the HD-DVD format was being discussed a short time later.

Anyhow, this isn't a board about politics so I won't get into why I think one is better than the other. I will say, however, that for either new format to have as big of an impact as regular DVDs to american consumers they will have to wait a number of years... If this war continues between the new formats, too, it will make it even worse for both companies. I remember back when they were in serious talks to form a unified format (they still are talking about it but discussions have basically come to a hault).

Oh well. You're right, though, in that the cycle will continue for peoples' levels of expectation. That will always be the case, really, especially myself. When it comes to scene releases, though, I'm not so critical of releases. To each their own.

Posted by porco556 on 12-10-2005 06:59 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Air1
I've been talking about Blu-Ray for many years - when a simple search for it only returned two or three hits on google! I was very surprised when information on the HD-DVD format was being discussed a short time later.

Anyhow, this isn't a board about politics so I won't get into why I think one is better than the other. I will say, however, that for either new format to have as big of an impact as regular DVDs to american consumers they will have to wait a number of years... If this war continues between the new formats, too, it will make it even worse for both companies. I remember back when they were in serious talks to form a unified format (they still are talking about it but discussions have basically come to a hault).

Oh well. You're right, though, in that the cycle will continue for peoples' levels of expectation. That will always be the case, really, especially myself. When it comes to scene releases, though, I'm not so critical of releases. To each their own.

Same thing happened before DVD with the DVD vs. DIVX war. Lucas was pushing and pushing for that crap. Or lets go even further back with Beta

The future seems to always hold a choice between 2 formats

Personally I'm going for whatever looks best (and I think that's down to codec, not disc in this case).

And ya, the BD-ROM vs. HD-DVD war is a big topic...

Don't want to get into that one here (especially if we have a difference preference

) I wonder if Sony learned from its mistakes (Beta

)

Posted by Air1 on 12-11-2005 12:40 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by porco556
I wonder if Sony learned from its mistakes (Beta )

Sony only lost the Beta vs. VHS war, really, because of porn. If porn comes out strong favoring HD-DVD or BR then there's a very high chance that format will win in this millinia, too.

Posted by porco556 on 12-12-2005 12:18 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Air1
Sony only lost the Beta vs. VHS war, really, because of porn. If porn comes out strong favoring HD-DVD or BR then there's a very high chance that format will win in this millinia, too.

Umm... Not to mention the slow licensing process, the low recording time per tape (60 mins compared to 120 mins of VHS) and the more expensive to manufacture tapes/players

So even though Beta was BETTER, the cheaper alternative that had its act together first won. You can map out the exact battle out to HD-DVD vs. BD-ROM. Except with new words gigs = length, codec = production cost.

But I guess naked girls and guys getting it on might have helped VHS win

But we are WAY off topic of... The Exorcism of Emily Rose

Good rip... Solid encode...

Posted by typer189 on 12-29-2005 10:11 AM:

The scene in the church where she walks in after seeing all that crap and the dude follows her in, is it normal that it seems to freeze for maybe a second when it's focusing in on her eyes (right after the guy enters the door)?

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