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Posted by X69 on 03-08-2006 04:27 PM:

IMPORTANT, PLEASE READ

1 NO REQUESTING MOVIES OR SAMPLES (THIS INCLUDES REQUESTS FOR OTHER GROUPS TO RELEASE THIS MOVIE!)

2 DO NOT DISCUSS WHERE TO DOWNLOAD MOVIES OR SAMPLES

3 DO NOT ASK FOR "RAR PASSWORDS" COS WE DON'T KNOW THEM. CHECK WITH YOUR SOURCE

4 NO FLAMING

5 NO "SPOILERS"

6 NO SCENE-RELATED DISCUSSION/RUMORS (ESPECIALLY REGARDING BUSTS)

7 COMMENT ON THIS RELEASE ONLY (AND ONLY IF YOU'VE SEEN AT LEAST THE SAMPLE). THIS IS THE SOLE PURPOSE OF THE THREAD!

8 NO "NOOB" QUESTIONS SUCH AS "HOW DO I WATCH THIS?" ASK IN THE APPROPRIATE PART OF THE FORUM

9 NO DISCUSSING TRADING/SELLING. IF YOU SELL COPIES, GO AWAY YOU'RE NOT WELCOME HERE

* Newbie questions? General questions unrelated to this release? Internet LOL's? Right here dudes

*** PEOPLE IGNORING THE RULES WILL BE BANNED ***

Posted by Striped on 03-08-2006 04:29 PM:

NFO is wrong it states dvd9 and its not, and secondly if this is untouched i'm Micheal fuckin Jackson.

5
9
8

Posted by aderant on 03-08-2006 05:15 PM:

Im with Micheal , bitrate takes a dive to the low 3000s but quality is still more than watachble.

Posted by porco556 on 03-08-2006 05:23 PM:

I will post the banner now...

*** STAY AWAY FROM THIS RELEASE ***

The encoding is SO bad, that I can't distinguish whether it's DVD Shrink or DVD X-Copy or what they used... The menu looks awful also. Almost looks like they took the XViD and went to DVD (which I know isn't the case, but it's that bad).

But they DID not say it was untouched, just the "extras" which there are none of.

This movie should just stay as a DVD-9... For those that don't have the dual layer burners, get one... They're SO cheap. Discs are not bad either now when they're on sale. Especially considering you have a 1:1 copy. Or just buy the movie... I know, crazy talk here...

But even without the menu and everything stripped, you can't even obtain a 3000kbit/sec average. Just to prove it, (3000+448)*186*60/8 = 4809960KB, where the max before authoring is 4485000KB (roughly, depending on the length of movie, but THAT is the +/- 10meg).

So, there is NO real point of a DVD-5 of this movie IMO. Maybe someone will do a 2-disc switcher... IF that is the case, I hope they include a MDS and instructions on making it back into one DVD-9 (for the others )...

This release gets a giant 1/10... The 1 is for magically winning the race...

Posted by chaotic646 on 03-08-2006 05:51 PM:

Agreed this release is terrible. Wait for a dvd-9. 1/6/7

Posted by elamericano on 03-08-2006 05:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Striped
NFO is wrong it states dvd9 and its not, and secondly if this is untouched i'm Micheal fuckin Jackson.

5
9
8

quote:
Originally posted by porco556
I will post the banner now...

*** STAY AWAY FROM THIS RELEASE ***

The encoding is SO bad, that I can't distinguish whether it's DVD Shrink or DVD X-Copy or what they used... The menu looks awful also. Almost looks like they took the XViD and went to DVD (which I know isn't the case, but it's that bad).

But they DID not say it was untouched, just the "extras" which there are none of.

This movie should just stay as a DVD-9... For those that don't have the dual layer burners, get one... They're SO cheap. Discs are not bad either now when they're on sale. Especially considering you have a 1:1 copy. Or just buy the movie... I know, crazy talk here...

But even without the menu and everything stripped, you can't even obtain a 3000kbit/sec average. Just to prove it, (3000+448)*186*60/8 = 4809960KB, where the max before authoring is 4485000KB (roughly, depending on the length of movie, but THAT is the +/- 10meg).

So, there is NO real point of a DVD-5 of this movie IMO. Maybe someone will do a 2-disc switcher... IF that is the case, I hope they include a MDS and instructions on making it back into one DVD-9 (for the others )...

This release gets a giant 1/10... The 1 is for magically winning the race...

In other words, this is probably the best/only release (other then internals) you are going to get with this movie.....Moving on to the release itself, video is not good, period end of story, audio is what it is (DD 5.1), it has everything stated in the nfo, BUT, and this is a big one, the extras are there, there is a "making of" VW toureg comercial and another "see more of NYC" which you can choose straight from the menu, had that been removed it wouldn't improve the video much more, PowerDVD says bitrate is 2.93, did not bother to check anything else....

Posted by porco556 on 03-08-2006 06:10 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by elamericano
This is a big one, the extras are there, there is a "making of" VW toureg comercial and another "see more of NYC" which you can choose straight from the menu, had that been removed it wouldn't improve the video much more, PowerDVD says bitrate is 2.93, did not bother to check anything else....

You are right, which is even more disturbing. I cancelled my transfer PDQ after seeing the quality. I guess the extras were the 72megs worth in VOB2 (more of NYC) was and 9megs in VOB3 (VW commercial)... Just guessing though.

But 2.93mbit/sec is also impossible. Can't trust PowerDVD on that one. I've had PowerDVD once tell me video was 5.1mbit, when I did the encode myself at 4700kbit... Actual calculation for this release would be 2.62mbit/sec... But I am NOT trying to fight. Either way it doesn't matter as this release is circling the drain on it's way to nukeville. Curious to see what happens, especially since the 3000 is impossible. Let's see what CCE can do

Come on Replica

No matter what though, this release will look much shittier than the DVD-9.

Posted by lostaznguy on 03-08-2006 07:12 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by porco556
I will post the banner now...

*** STAY AWAY FROM THIS RELEASE ***

The encoding is SO bad, that I can't distinguish whether it's DVD Shrink or DVD X-Copy or what they used... The menu looks awful also. Almost looks like they took the XViD and went to DVD (which I know isn't the case, but it's that bad).

But they DID not say it was untouched, just the "extras" which there are none of.

This movie should just stay as a DVD-9... For those that don't have the dual layer burners, get one... They're SO cheap. Discs are not bad either now when they're on sale. Especially considering you have a 1:1 copy. Or just buy the movie... I know, crazy talk here...

But even without the menu and everything stripped, you can't even obtain a 3000kbit/sec average. Just to prove it, (3000+448)*186*60/8 = 4809960KB, where the max before authoring is 4485000KB (roughly, depending on the length of movie, but THAT is the +/- 10meg).

So, there is NO real point of a DVD-5 of this movie IMO. Maybe someone will do a 2-disc switcher... IF that is the case, I hope they include a MDS and instructions on making it back into one DVD-9 (for the others )...

This release gets a giant 1/10... The 1 is for magically winning the race...

Yea, i looked at the NFO, and untouched from DVD9 to DVD5... and I was like no fuckn way......

As for the Dual burners...By now most of us should have dual burners... and for the Dual DVD+R disks...
at bestbuy: Memorex 50-Pack 2.4x DVD+R Double-Layer Disc Spindle "Our Price: $129.99"

For a DVD9 release, I wouldnt mind grabbing a pack of double layer dvd just for this king kong release!

For those who dont want to deal with DVD9, i'd like to see a 2 disk release untouched if possible....

Posted by elamericano on 03-08-2006 08:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by porco556
You are right, which is even more disturbing. I cancelled my transfer PDQ after seeing the quality. I guess the extras were the 72megs worth in VOB2 (more of NYC) was and 9megs in VOB3 (VW commercial)... Just guessing though.

But 2.93mbit/sec is also impossible. Can't trust PowerDVD on that one. I've had PowerDVD once tell me video was 5.1mbit, when I did the encode myself at 4700kbit... Actual calculation for this release would be 2.62mbit/sec... But I am NOT trying to fight. Either way it doesn't matter as this release is circling the drain on it's way to nukeville. Curious to see what happens, especially since the 3000 is impossible. Let's see what CCE can do Come on Replica

No matter what though, this release will look much shittier than the DVD-9.

yup, Pdvd is always wrong in the bitrate, but I posted just so people would get an ideia of the kinda of quality the video on this release is....

Posted by Twisted Nerve on 03-08-2006 08:13 PM:

howdy

I just have 32" w/screen TV, but this release looks fine to me

I guess u must all be watching it on your 8 foot plasmas, but to us mere mortals this release is good

thought the movie was a pale shadow of its Black n White grand-daddy tho

v9/a9/m4

tN

Posted by lickmyzack on 03-08-2006 08:18 PM:

Thanks for the release bocca, renting it and ripping it to DVD5 w/DVDshrink is all I would have done anyways, saves me the trouble.. as the film itself wasn't good enough to buy, they aleady got me for $75 at the theater.. it doesn't deserve any more.
As far as the bitrate goes, sometimes I convert 2 or 3 movies and put 'em on 1 disc and i'm satisfied with playback.. and I know i'm not the only one out there who does it, so a low bitrate is fine with some of us.

LMZ

Posted by _jadakiss on 03-08-2006 08:34 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by lickmyzack
Thanks for the release bocca, renting it and ripping it to DVD5 w/DVDshrink is all I would have done anyways, saves me the trouble.. as the film itself wasn't good enough to buy, they aleady got me for $75 at the theater.. it doesn't deserve any more.
As far as the bitrate goes, sometimes I convert 2 or 3 movies and put 'em on 1 disc and i'm satisfied with playback.. and I know i'm not the only one out there who does it, so a low bitrate is fine with some of us.

LMZ

$75 fuckin dollars.. wtf ... fuck outta of heea... i wouldnt pay that much for a movie... hope you mean $7.50.. wich is what i payed here in CALIFORNIA... anyways.. back to the movie.. hmmm .... looks horrible... kinda reminds me of CCAT release of Flight Plan.. guess that happens when you rush to pre it and be the first group to release it.. smh ... how does one check the bitrate on this dvd ?

Video-4
Audio-9
Movie-9

will wait for a proper or dvd9

Posted by XtremeX on 03-08-2006 08:35 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by lickmyzack
Thanks for the release bocca, renting it and ripping it to DVD5 w/DVDshrink is all I would have done anyways, saves me the trouble.. as the film itself wasn't good enough to buy, they aleady got me for $75 at the theater.. it doesn't deserve any more.
As far as the bitrate goes, sometimes I convert 2 or 3 movies and put 'em on 1 disc and i'm satisfied with playback.. and I know i'm not the only one out there who does it, so a low bitrate is fine with some of us.

LMZ

At least use DVD Rebuilder with CCE. I gave up on DVD Shrink a long time ago, only use it now if ripping the other languages can keep the movie untouched cos imo even on my little 14 inch telly I can see if DVD Shrink was involved...

Posted by Redemption1980 on 03-08-2006 10:46 PM:

I believe there should be a few releases of movies this long, a DVD5, a DVD9, and maybe 2DVD5's.
Not everyone is completely anal about quality, i know i am, but 80% of people i know, can tell the difference between a bitrate of 2000 and 8000.
Also most people dont want to pay for DL discs or change discs half way through, also 4gb is bad enough for most, never mind 7-8Gb, though i feel a good 3CD XviD will look better than a 4gb mpeg.

Rating this, it looks fine considering, but if you have high standards then i would avoid and buy it if DVD9's arent ur thing.

7/9/?

Posted by Happy13178 on 03-09-2006 12:18 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by porco556
I will post the banner now...

*** STAY AWAY FROM THIS RELEASE ***

The encoding is SO bad, that I can't distinguish whether it's DVD Shrink or DVD X-Copy or what they used... The menu looks awful also. Almost looks like they took the XViD and went to DVD (which I know isn't the case, but it's that bad).

But they DID not say it was untouched, just the "extras" which there are none of.

This movie should just stay as a DVD-9... For those that don't have the dual layer burners, get one... They're SO cheap. Discs are not bad either now when they're on sale. Especially considering you have a 1:1 copy. Or just buy the movie... I know, crazy talk here...

But even without the menu and everything stripped, you can't even obtain a 3000kbit/sec average. Just to prove it, (3000+448)*186*60/8 = 4809960KB, where the max before authoring is 4485000KB (roughly, depending on the length of movie, but THAT is the +/- 10meg).

So, there is NO real point of a DVD-5 of this movie IMO. Maybe someone will do a 2-disc switcher... IF that is the case, I hope they include a MDS and instructions on making it back into one DVD-9 (for the others )...

This release gets a giant 1/10... The 1 is for magically winning the race...

4/9/8.... How did you get (3000+448)*186*60/8....I get the 3000kb, the 186 minutes of film, and divided by 8 for kb/KB...what are the other numbers?

Posted by lickmyzack on 03-09-2006 01:38 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by _jadakiss
$75 fuckin dollars.. wtf ... fuck outta of heea... i wouldnt pay that much for a movie... hope you mean $7.50.. wich is what i payed here in CALIFORNIA... anyways.. back to the movie.. hmmm .... looks horrible... kinda reminds me of CCAT release of Flight Plan.. guess that happens when you rush to pre it and be the first group to release it.. smh ... how does one check the bitrate on this dvd ?

Video-4
Audio-9
Movie-9

will wait for a proper or dvd9

2 Adults
4 Kids
Popcorn, Candy, Drinks and Hotdogs

$74.83

It wasn't a typo

Posted by chaotic646 on 03-09-2006 03:00 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by lickmyzack
2 Adults
4 Kids
Popcorn, Candy, Drinks and Hotdogs

$74.83

It wasn't a typo

Damn, thats actually cheap for all that compared to how much it would be in my hometown.

Posted by JoshNya on 03-09-2006 04:20 AM:

Oh yeah, this is a one-clicker transcode. Using Ahead Nero.

Format Type UDF 1.02
Volume Name KING_KONG
Application id
Implementation id AHEAD Nero

DOITFAST gives me a 2672k avg on this transcode.

Ya this is crap-ola

Posted by kling0n on 03-09-2006 06:00 AM:

is there such thing as a dvd5 xvid. id rather burn an xvid to dvd than cd and have to flip between discs..

Posted by Redemption1980 on 03-09-2006 01:00 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by kling0n
is there such thing as a dvd5 xvid. id rather burn an xvid to dvd than cd and have to flip between discs..

There is, but not any Scene rips, they would have to be custom rips, ive done the first LOTR Extended movie with AC3 and DTS as a DVD5.

A DVD5 XviD would possibly be overkill for this though as the bitrate would be nearly 3000, you'd be best waiting for a 3CD AC3 Internal rip.

I ended up binning this after 15mins of trying to watch it, there is a horrible pulsating effect on it, that makes it look like the backround is alive, obviously a Transcoder problem.
A Proper with a customised avisynth script and proper use of CCE is definetly needed, this is a long movie, but ive got 5-6hours onto a DVD5 with better quality than this.

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