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Posted by X69 on 03-12-2006 04:47 AM:

IMPORTANT, PLEASE READ

1 NO REQUESTING MOVIES OR SAMPLES (THIS INCLUDES REQUESTS FOR OTHER GROUPS TO RELEASE THIS MOVIE!)

2 DO NOT DISCUSS WHERE TO DOWNLOAD MOVIES OR SAMPLES

3 DO NOT ASK FOR "RAR PASSWORDS" COS WE DON'T KNOW THEM. CHECK WITH YOUR SOURCE

4 NO FLAMING

5 NO "SPOILERS"

6 NO SCENE-RELATED DISCUSSION/RUMORS (ESPECIALLY REGARDING BUSTS)

7 COMMENT ON THIS RELEASE ONLY (AND ONLY IF YOU'VE SEEN AT LEAST THE SAMPLE). THIS IS THE SOLE PURPOSE OF THE THREAD!

8 NO "NOOB" QUESTIONS SUCH AS "HOW DO I WATCH THIS?" ASK IN THE APPROPRIATE PART OF THE FORUM

9 NO DISCUSSING TRADING/SELLING. IF YOU SELL COPIES, GO AWAY YOU'RE NOT WELCOME HERE

* Newbie questions? General questions unrelated to this release? Internet LOL's? Right here dudes

*** PEOPLE IGNORING THE RULES WILL BE BANNED ***

Posted by Tallguy on 03-12-2006 10:33 AM:

Untouched DVD-9 with 95 X 50mb files? and a 3 hour movie?
come on now!
Ok must be a nfo error saw it posted at 85 x 100mb files
wow good luck compressing this one.. looks like a needed dvd 9 burn to me
125mb menu
7.67 gig movie
110mb extra whatever

10/10/8

Posted by cadillact on 03-12-2006 12:06 PM:

Way to go ANBC

With this movie length and action its the only way to go.

Posted by ntscuser on 03-12-2006 02:11 PM:

There are likely to be as many playback issues with DVD+DL as there were with BoCCa's release. You can't make a test burn so stand by for flood of posts to the effect "I've burned 5xDL discs so far and every one has been a coaster".

And for what? There's no DTS track or director's commentary. I'm usually in favour of DVD-9 uploads but on this occasion I can't see the point. Few of us will make a better conversion than BoCCa managed so it becomes a waste of bandwidth and/or blank dual-layer discs.

And the purists who pleaded for this release? Are they now going to download this version or - as I suspect - simply wait for the retail disc to come out in a couple of weeks time?

Posted by elamericano on 03-12-2006 02:25 PM:

Video 10, audio 8, movie 7, no problems burning or watching.... No DTS thats why the audio 8, they are probably saving that for the Extended edition Final directors cut , something that will sell more dvds..TY aNBc

Posted by Triffid on 03-12-2006 02:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ntscuser
Few of us will make a better conversion than BoCCa managed so it becomes a waste of bandwidth and/or blank dual-layer discs

BoCCa used a 1-clicker so I don't see how you can make that statement.

For me, this is a so-so movie. At times, the special effects looked so fake it made me laugh. Anyway, I'll probably strip the 20 minutes of end credits and use CCE. If I can get it to the quality of The Aviator (BHP's release), I'll be content.

Of course, you can just split it to two dvd-5's. It's easy to do and preserves the quality.

Posted by shawners on 03-12-2006 02:58 PM:

Actually, just download. Unrar it, and split it into two dvd5's. You can use dvd shrink to just split it without compression, and the other part of movie on another disk.. Maybe when they get to the island, split it up. Leave menu/extras and all on the first disk with first part of the movie.

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Posted by chaotic646 on 03-12-2006 03:15 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ntscuser
There are likely to be as many playback issues with DVD+DL as there were with BoCCa's release. You can't make a test burn so stand by for flood of posts to the effect "I've burned 5xDL discs so far and every one has been a coaster".

And for what? There's no DTS track or director's commentary. I'm usually in favour of DVD-9 uploads but on this occasion I can't see the point. Few of us will make a better conversion than BoCCa managed so it becomes a waste of bandwidth and/or blank dual-layer discs.

And the purists who pleaded for this release? Are they now going to download this version or - as I suspect - simply wait for the retail disc to come out in a couple of weeks time?

What the hell are you talking about? Ive downloaded, unrared, burned, and watched with no problems. Burning DL's isnt hard. Just use pgcedit to set your layer break and imgburn to burn.

For what you ask? Because the Bocca release looked like crap on my tv. It even looked bad on my 20.1" monitor. You dont need a DTS track to justify a DL on this movie because its over 3 hours long. And even if you do end up compressing it yourself, you can get a lot better result than bocca's one-clicker job.

Posted by Redemption198 on 03-12-2006 03:26 PM:

This looks alot better than the Bocca release, but still not that great video, seems to be a tad grainy, but thats seems to be getting more common recently.

Audio is fine, but obviously no better than the previous release.

I have about 60% of this so far, and plan on burning it to a DL disc for myself, and ntsc user, i have yet to have a bad burn with DL discs, so people having problems are either using a dodgy burner or cheap discs.

Also gonna try a DVD5 version of my own, possibly with a custom script and maybe a KDVD matrix.

9/9/?

Posted by Shown on 03-12-2006 03:32 PM:

What DL media are yall having the best luck with.Anyone here used Playo brand.

Posted by hajj_3 on 03-12-2006 03:36 PM:

just use dvd decrypter and set booktype as dvd-rom, so it will play in all dvd players. hope a collectors edition or something is released with dts es 6.1 or something.

any extras on this, nfo dosent say?

Posted by chaotic646 on 03-12-2006 05:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Shown
What DL media are yall having the best luck with.Anyone here used Playo brand.

I use Verbatim DVD+R DL. Its the only brand Ive found that gives error-free consistant burns that pass the "verify sectors" check every single time. Other brands that Ive used are Memorex and Ritek. 4 out of the 10 Memorex DL's were coasters, and 6 out of the 10 Riteks were. They were all burned with a Pioneer DVR-108 and a NEC ND-3550A with latest firmware.

Posted by biggbyte on 03-12-2006 06:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Redemption1980
This looks alot better than the Bocca release, but still not that great video, seems to be a tad grainy, but thats seems to be getting more common recently.

Video looks top notch on a 48' widescreen, not grainy at all if u ask me. Video is untouched. aNBc did a great job on this one.

10
9
9

quote:
Originally posted by Shown
What DL media are yall having the best luck with.Anyone here used Playo brand.

Verbatim DVD+R DL are the only DL media I use. Superior to everything else I've tried. The Memorex DVD+R 4.7GB work fine, but they are coaster city with their DL media. As far as the Playo discs go, I have never tried them. They seem a bit cheap on the price which makes them suspect.

Posted by Shown on 03-12-2006 06:18 PM:

Thx for the info. I ordered a 10pk of Verbatim DVD+R hope they burn in my NEC 3550a.sre15.2re15.2ss

Posted by ntscuser on 03-12-2006 07:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by chaotic646
I use Verbatim DVD+R DL. Its the only brand Ive found that gives error-free consistant burns that pass the "verify sectors" check every single time. Other brands that Ive used are Memorex and Ritek. 4 out of the 10 Memorex DL's were coasters, and 6 out of the 10 Riteks were. They were all burned with a Pioneer DVR-108 and a NEC ND-3550A with latest firmware.

A box of 10 Verbatim photo-printable DL blanks costs 40 UK Pounds where I live (that's approx US$64) plus postage and have a maximum burn speed of only 2.4X so it would take the best part of an hour to burn one full disc. Point made?

Posted by chaotic646 on 03-12-2006 07:31 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ntscuser
Point made?

I was answering a question by Shown. I get verbatims for $2-$2.50 a piece or $20-$25 per 10-pack and they burn up to 8x. I only burn them at 4x though just to be safe and it takes about 30 minutes. I could care less about "photo printable"...

Posted by ntscuser on 03-12-2006 07:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by chaotic646
I was answering a question by Shown. I get verbatims for $2-$2.50 a piece or $20-$25 per 10-pack and they burn up to 8x. I only burn them at 4x though just to be safe and it takes about 30 minutes. I could care less about "photo printable"...

I appreciate that. The point I was trying to make was that a reliable brand of DL discs is still prohibitively slow and expensive compared to its single layered equivalent. I use photo-printable Verbatim 16x DVD-R now and there is no way I am going to downgrade to 2.4x or stick-on labels or marker pens with DVD+DL.

Posted by Redemption198 on 03-12-2006 10:37 PM:

I use Ridata ones which i get for £2 each, might only be 2.4X but im not usually in a huge rush to watch something, and the PC is still usable when its Burning.

So your saying you would rather have a pretty label on ur disc and substandard video quality than perfect quality on a normal disc with the name written on it.

I download DVD9's all the time, but very rarely do i burn them onto a DL disc, mostly rip them to XviD and 2Disc versions with Movie on 1DVD and Extras on the other, last one i burned was a Star Wars LaserDisc DVD9 rip, just sometimes you have to, and if i dont feel like wasting a Dual Layer on this, i will just rip it to a 4gb XviD which will look alot better than the Bocca release, and burn it on a normal DVD5.

Posted by moovyguy on 03-13-2006 02:35 AM:

If I use RecordNow to burn this IMG, so I still have to somehow set the layer info, or will RN do this for me?

I've never used PgcEdit

Posted by porco556 on 03-13-2006 05:11 AM:

Wait... I haven't got this release yet (just got back in town) so I am not 100% sure, but are you guys telling me the MDS file is NOT included!?! That has all layer break information and everything needed to make a perfect 1:1 DVD-9 copy. All you need is DVD-Decrypter or IMGburn, set burner to DVD-ROM (optional, I find DVD+R works just fine also), and then select the MDS and go...

And I use RITEK discs (which are branded Memorex) and they work 100% of the time. Zero coasters and over 50 burned. I REALLY dunno how I keep reading people are coastering these all the time, but I've never had problems. Verbatim discs ARE the best, but bling-bling for cost.

But I agree, 2.4x is a REAL pain in the ass, plus I DO verify to ensure I've got a 100% copy. Which takes up to 60 mins (not including the reading of the disc to begin with). All DVD+R DL RITEK burns I have done work on my stand-alone and my friends players also (which vary from Toshiba, JVC and Pioneer...)

Well, getting this release now, I sure hope I see the MDS file in there or I will have to make up a fake layer break using PGCedit... Can't imagine the stupidity of not including it, so I am probably jumping the gun. 8 gigs and then leave out a tiny file which will save people ALOT of work. Plus not all brakes happen at 50%, so I may have a break in the middle of a critical action scene.

:: EDIT - Well, the MDS file is not included... IMO that is absolutely retarded. Now I have to make the layer break to be able for this to be able to even think about playing on a standalone...

Any better methods out there other than PGCEdit? ::

:: EDIT 2 - OK... Maybe I am using an old school approach. When I say MDS, I refer to DVDDecrypter... Have people stopped using that altogether for IMGBurn? It's been good to me for years, so I never switched, but if I need IMGBurn for DLs, then I guess I should switch over ::

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