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Posted by takwhori on 07-31-2008 04:56 PM:

Virgin again

Ok I know i've said a million times before i would be leaving these fuckers but now they are taking the biscuit.
The traffic shaping is meant to take effect after 4:00pm but i've just noticed my connection speed drop by 75% at 3:45pm

I've done a little bit of research and now they have a fuckin daytime throttle too! from 10am to 3 am

Jesus wept!

Posted by Neversoft on 07-31-2008 05:16 PM:

They were fantasic until they introduced the throttling and now they're a joke. 20Mb connection? OHYES... But don't fuckin use it! I'm glad I'm with O2 (BeThere to all intents and purposes), they seem to be one of the few ISPs that haven't turned to shit.

Ditch them, they wont learn until they lose an assload customers.

Posted by koodo on 07-31-2008 05:58 PM:

Thought there was a thread for this. Hmmm. Must be my mistake.

Posted by Arthur Daily on 07-31-2008 06:25 PM:

i know a crafty fella with 3 cloned modems all pulling 20meg,

and HE moans about the throttle lol

yes, telewest where the cats meow,
but these clowns with their 'fiber optic' are pissing me off.

only thing about 'Be' is i would need a BT line.
Me n BT fell out some years back and we ain't talking

bottom line is ISP's in the UK are a dam joke.
with no authority to slap their ass this is the way for now.

but anyways, i don't leech as much as i used to so I'm cool.
but don't get me started on it, i can feel my ISP-RAGE building up now just thinking about it GRrrrrrr

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Posted by olskoolfife on 07-31-2008 08:01 PM:

I'm with freeola and do most of my downloading at night.Probably just aswell as i only get 30gb peak times between 8 am and 10pm but I get 300gb off peak.
Total 330gb

Quite happy with them really.

I don't download as much as i used to either.
Probably ran out of things that i wanted.

Posted by ntscuser on 07-31-2008 08:07 PM:

Who thinks up their advertising slogans?

Posted by Vampire on 07-31-2008 08:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Arthur Daily
bottom line is ISP's in the UK are a dam joke.
with no authority to slap their ass this is the way for now.

Umm... Ofcom?

The problem isn't the ISPs anyway, it's the infrastructure. We've been running more and more advanced services over what is effectively just copper wire for years now. BT were previously reluctant to deploy fibre out to all of the exchanges to upgrade the infrastructure because of the lack of support in securing financial returns from Ofcom. Basically, any ISP can use BT infrastructure and they don't have to pay BT a penny because Ofcom don't want BT to be seen as a monopoly. So, if BT pay out to upgrade the core and access networks to fibre, the same could happen which makes it a very expensive move for BT if other ISPs can start using the newly upgraded network for free.

That restriction is still there (I believe) however BT realise that they can't wait for Ofcom to change the rules as the network is getting more and more congested with more and more traffic shaping being enforced so they've bitten the bullet and will have 10 million homes with fibre out to the exchange by 2012 (1 million of those will have fibre out to the home at 100mb, the rest will be copper from the exchange to the homes but running at 40mb using VDSL) at a cost of £1.5bn.

Posted by David Cameron on 07-31-2008 08:32 PM:

The thing that pisses me off is that BT don't even offer a similar kind of deal to the one described by olskoolife.

With BT, excessive usage incurs the peak hours restriction. Doesn't matter when the heavy usage is, only the total traffic is counted. Which is bollocks because if they only have a problem with fair usage during peak hours, why punish people who restrict their heaviest usage to off peak hours.

They're scum.

Posted by Vampire on 07-31-2008 08:38 PM:

I think it depends how congested your exchange is. I don't get restrictions off peak even if I download all day but I do drop to 512k from 6pm - 12am even if I don't download a damn thing all day.

Posted by David Cameron on 07-31-2008 08:46 PM:

Yeah same here. That is because your line has been put on the restricted list. If its the first time, ring this number, 0800076044, tell them you didn't receive any email about fair usage and you want your line unrestricted. That should give you another month of unthrottled bandwidth, depending on how much you download over the month will determine if you get restricted again.

I speak the truth, I have managed to get my restriction lifted twice, once through pleading ignorance, the second by agreeing to sign up for another year, this is ok because I can get out of the contract at anytime simply by complaining about the throttling. I'm still working on a third.

Posted by Vampire on 07-31-2008 08:48 PM:

Mine's a business line as well - you pay more but still don't get guaranteed speeds. What I need to do is stay clean for a month, download loads of shit from work so I exceed any restrictions and then complain that I can't work efficiently due to the traffic shaping and see if they can permanently lift it. I do work for them after all.

Posted by Arthur Daily on 08-01-2008 04:28 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Vampire
Umm... Ofcom?

ummm Pussys.

they had a chance with this 'up to xxx KBps' waffle

and they bite as hard as a granny with no teeth*

*leave it neversoft, leave it

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Posted by Mr_Grinch on 08-03-2008 07:29 AM:

From the title I assumed this thread was about Takwhori not getting any.

'cos, y'know, it grows back after a while.

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Posted by ntscuser on 08-03-2008 02:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Vampire
Mine's a business line as well - you pay more but still don't get guaranteed speeds.

When you say "business line" Vampire, do you mean one of those SSDL connections with 2Meg up/down that cost around £100 a month?

Posted by Vampire on 08-03-2008 08:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ntscuser
When you say "business line" Vampire, do you mean one of those SSDL connections with 2Meg up/down that cost around £100 a month?

Nope, just a standard ADSL line.

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