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Aug 2001


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dug123
May 2006

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What a retarded proper reason
who cares if its 127 minutes on 1 cd when it looks as good as it does?

Yes, if this release looked like crap for video quality, then a 2 cd proper would be needed. but this looks just fine!
no s--- proper reason my butt.

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guyver2k5
Feb 2005

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i like this release better

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K-FurY
Apr 2002


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quote:
Originally posted by dug123
What a retarded proper reason
who cares if its 127 minutes on 1 cd when it looks as good as it does?

Yes, if this release looked like crap for video quality, then a 2 cd proper would be needed. but this looks just fine!
no s--- proper reason my butt.



Sorry, but the DMD release looks like shit. XviD is supposed to preserve DVD quality at a smaller file size, not look drastically inferior. The DMD release suffers from a number of problems. Not only do blacks come out really crappy and grainy, but almost all dark colours. Lighter colours are also blocky, when viewed in full screen both problems are really obvious.

As for this release, I haven't seen it yet, I'm at work .nfo doesn't specify but I hope it has a higher res, and glad that it has AC3. Edit when I go home.

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sar
Sep 2004


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do they have illiterate monkeys writing the nfos? or something less intelligent?

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pedantics
Sep 2004


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judging by the sample, this is about on par with the internal. however, that did come first - and internal or not, it makes this release somewhat unnecessary.

to be honest, unless you're watching on a big ass plasma or monitor and 5.1 surround setup, diamond's rls is adequate anyway.

note tff: having a shit nfo with no technical details is fucking annoying.

9/8/?

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skooter
Oct 2005

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*sigh* all xvid should be 1 cd anyways. It's pointless, because if your planning on downloading 2 cd why not just stick with svcd and get a bitrate in the 2000 range. I f your a quality whore you are probably going to download the dvdr anyways. I've never understood a 2 cd xvid. It seems useless.



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a-10
m-8

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pedantics
Sep 2004


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quote:
Originally posted by skooter
why not just stick with svcd and get a bitrate in the 2000 range

because mpeg2 is not as efficient a codec as mpeg4 - so bitrate comparisons between the two don't apply at all.

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Redemption198
Jul 2004


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I do agree the Diamond release was pretty poor, but there was nothing that it could be nuked for, so there is absoutely no need for a Proper.

Yes an Internal is needed, but not a proper, so TFF as usual are being gimps.

skooter, most movies should be 2CD XviDs, SVCD's are shit, and most 1CD XviD's look better than a 2CD SVCD. also alot of people want or need 5.1 on movies these days.

TBH, the only people i see these days who are still fans of 1CD XviD's are people who have no TV, just a PC and are on low end Net Connections, ie, 512, 1mb.

This does appear to look and sound better, but it just mislabled.

9/9/?

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jbm666
Dec 2005

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"Qualitative propers are not allowed, nor are propers based on decisions made by a ripper (i.e. No. of CDs, AC3 or MP3, etc)"

taken from the The XviD Releasing Standards 2005

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Vorph
Dec 2003


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quote:
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"Qualitative propers are not allowed, nor are propers based on decisions made by a ripper (i.e. No. of CDs, AC3 or MP3, etc)"

taken from the The XviD Releasing Standards 2005



Which is just further proof that the release rules are completely retarded. Making a minimum running time per cd but no maximum is completely ass backwards from how it should have been done.

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Wanderer22
Aug 2003

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The Code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual "rules"...

The "two hour rule" was put in place for films that are significantly longer than two hours. 150 minutes, 180 minutes, etc. 127 minutes? I can understand Diamond's choice.

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Normanb
Jun 2006

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quote:
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do they have illiterate monkeys writing the nfos? or something less intelligent?


Yah did you notice that the "Plot" for this movie is actually for You, Me and Dupree.

Wonder how they made the leap there. haha.

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chiv
Dec 2003

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quote:
Originally posted by skooter
*sigh* all xvid should be 1 cd anyways. It's pointless, because if your planning on downloading 2 cd why not just stick with svcd and get a bitrate in the 2000 range. I f your a quality whore you are probably going to download the dvdr anyways. I've never understood a 2 cd xvid. It seems useless.



v-9
a-10
m-8




a 1.4 gb dvdrip can tend to look only 30% worse than the actual dvdr, and i sure as heck dont need to download an extra couple of gigs just for 30% more quality, THATS why xvids arent useless. your obviously a diamond fanboy, or haven't actually downloaded their rip of this film, otherwise youd agree that it was pure rubbish, and given that its a good film and worthy of decent quality AND 5.1 surround, a proper wasn't just a good idea, but completely necessary.

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torxxx
Oct 2002


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I really dont see why tff proper'd dmds release. I watched it last night, and it was great.

780 megs was fine for me, no reason for a 2 cd Xvid.. just my 2 cents

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WaBasH
Aug 2006

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Having seen this movie in the theaters I have to agree with this release. I don't care about AC3 as I watch this on a standard TV and don't have a 5.1 system. But watching this video in fullscreen on my TV just looks bad especially in the dark scenes. I don't care about scene rules but anything over 90 minutes really needs to be a 2CD release for quality that's worthy of a DVDRip. However most poeple here are over reacting. DiAMOND's release is very watchable, if I was on a slow connection I'd have no problem watching there's instead but given that I have a fast connection I want the highest quality I can get for a DVDRip therefore I'm gonna get this proper or the internal (since the proper is technically nuked).

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Jayhab
Aug 2006

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I have to agree with torxx, watched Diamonds copy last night on big tv - no problems at all.

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ambientmike
Feb 2006

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Noone seems to have mentioned here that this release doesn't even have AC3...

It is still stereo MP3.

Invalid proper - waste of time (even though video quality is obviously better)

There is an internal going around with 2CD AC3 - that is really what diamond should've chosen in the first place to avoid all this rubbish...

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Merle
May 2006

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quote:
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Noone seems to have mentioned here that this release doesn't even have AC3...

It is still stereo MP3.

Invalid proper - waste of time (even though video quality is obviously better)

There is an internal going around with 2CD AC3 - that is really what diamond should've chosen in the first place to avoid all this rubbish...



you mean the MOMO version?

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pedantics
Sep 2004


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there's better versions around than the momo rls - that looked like a one pass rush job to me

you really seem to like posting about momo though! what's going on there?

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