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Linnets
Jul 2005


Rubbery

Thieving Pikeys!

Right first things first - I'm fucked off.

Some cunt has nicked about a grand from me and I wanna know who it was.

Allow me to explain. I had a load of cash in my drawer at work. Cash that was from jobs. I know fuckin stupid to leave it in an unlocked dawer, but I've only got about 15 employees and I thought I could trust them all. Obviously not. Shit heads.

So the likelihood is that it is a keyholder that has come in out of hours and nicked it. (There are only 3 keyholders). Obviously I have my suspicions but I have no way of proving anything. So what I want from you bunch of reprobates is a way of setting this goon up for a fall. I don't think whoever it is will be able to resist a honeytrap, cos I'm sure they have also recently nicked a flat screen monitor from the office too.

Fire away with your suggestions. I wanna catch this fucker red handed.

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Ripper
May 2002


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Hidden camera with infa red activation, leave it a week or 2 (xmas time be perfect) and leave a few hundred around and when you lock up turn the cctv on and soon as someone crosses the beam it gets recorded

Theft from an employer is a lot worse than theft itself and if u contact the police and he gets charged then it will be on record and he have a hard time getting ANY job with theft from an employer

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olskoolfife
Mar 2005


AWRITE FANNY BAWS ?

Usually when something goes missing in the office the finger is always pointed at The Cleaners or Security but 99%of the time it isn't them it's the staff themselves.

Set a trap.

When the money went missing did you cause a scene?
It would be good if you could play it down if you know what i mean.
Pretend that you haven't even noticed the money has gone.
Then there is a good chance the person that stole it will strike again.

If you made your mouth go about it, and nobody could blame you if you did,then they probably won't try it again.


That's fuckin bad news though especially at this time of year.

Hope you catch the fucker

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HoldDaSalad
Nov 2002


aka parasiticgannon

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Originally posted by Ripper


Theft from an employer is a lot worse than theft itself and if u contact the police and he gets charged then it will be on record and he have a hard time getting ANY job with theft from an employer

Who gives a fuck? He deserves what he gets.

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Ripper
May 2002


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Who gives a fuck? He deserves what he gets.


What a slap on the wrist pfffttt, if you really want to hurt someone hurt em in the pocket and theft from an employee will pretty much mean he will be picking up dead animals off the road if he's lucky

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ZootedLooter
Feb 2003


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fuckin hippie

def set the trap...but the problem is...if you let him grab more cash to catch him on tape...youll lose that too

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Arthur Daily
Feb 2004


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as an ex-installer of covert cameras and CCTV systems i can tell you
there are shed loads of options open to you.
cams in smoke detectors, cams in books and even cams in the cross of a Philips (cross head) screw head.
but all these options need to hooked up to something, and that something can cost money.

IMO your best bet should you choose the cam approach would be a standard (quality) web cam and some motion capture software.
this can be setup to start recording when motion is detected and or setup to take pictures and have them pictures (or footage) immedatly emailed to an email address.

this emailing is important as any tea-leaf with an ounce of brains would also nick the tape or nick the pc.

A web-cam isn't that out of place in an office and may not look suspect to the thief.

if you choose this option, try it out at home first to get your head round the software.


remember to take the serial numbers of the money you leave as a trap.

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Munson
Sep 2006

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quote:
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Who gives a fuck? He deserves what he gets.


You're an idiot.

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HoldDaSalad
Nov 2002


aka parasiticgannon

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What a slap on the wrist pfffttt, if you really want to hurt someone hurt em in the pocket and theft from an employee will pretty much mean he will be picking up dead animals off the road if he's lucky
I thought you meant, not to press charges. My bad yo. I misunderstood you.

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Iammyself
Oct 2005



camera thing is obvious, heck id assume there is a comp in that room, hook up a webcam, make sure you have enough HD space and just leave it on overnight, and delete next day, cover flashing lights on the tower, just thinking thrifty instead of full blown security...

although at this point it may make a good future investment to go hi tech

I know the culture is diff there from here in the USA, but i think its safe to say as the economy slumps, even good people can and will become shady, hope your insurance covered it!

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David Cameron
Nov 2005


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Wait until your Christmas party and beat the shit out of the person you suspect most. Take his wallet and fire him.

At least that way you get some money back and you get some pleasure too

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Linnets
Jul 2005


Rubbery

I'll give the cam option further thought, although the office the theft took place from is not used now. I moved all the office employees into the boardroom to save money on lights and heating. I think I said before I sell into the housebuilding trade so times are fuckin tough at the moment. Maybe 40-50% of last years volume of sales!

Because of the environment a web cam would definately look out of place at the moment unfortunately. I could do without the expense of "high tech" security installations. What I'm really after is something dirty and ingenious. A way to get him to trip himself up, and if he had to reveal himself to me without knowing it that would be the ideal outcome. Trouble is I'm not a sneaky enough little fucker to be able to hatch sucha plan. I know someone who almost definately is, but I think that he's the cunt who's nicked it.

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Darlowad
Oct 2007


Gade joodey

Yep if you do find out who it is "save" the evidence untill say crimbo week and unload the bombshell then !!!!

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Jan 2002


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Edited it because I wrote what I wrote out of anger.

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Avenue_1
Apr 2008


Need Bummed?

There is transparent security powder you can get, that when the thief comes into contact he does not realise until he washes his hands, then he is dyed for up to a week.
Dust some money with it and bobs your uncle.
Will try and dig a link up for it later.

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RIP@Youceff
Apr 2006

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That's shit mate, being robbed by those you employ is an insult and a half.

as a cheep option you could try sticking some cash or whatever in a bag that is not transparent and add a good spinkling of Potassium permanganate, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_permanganate

easily available at any pet store as its used to get mites of reptiles.

as soon as it hits the oils in fingers it will dye the skin purple and cant be washed of for about a week..

I got cought myself with this at school years ago nicking magnesium ribbon to blow things up.
so i can deff' say it works.

just another option to think of.

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Dec 2004


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quote:
Originally posted by RIP@Youceff
That's shit mate, being robbed by those you employ is an insult and a half.

as a cheep option you could try sticking some cash or whatever in a bag that is not transparent and add a good spinkling of Potassium permanganate, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_permanganate

easily available at any pet store as its used to get mites of reptiles.

as soon as it hits the oils in fingers it will dye the skin purple and cant be washed of for about a week..

I got cought myself with this at school years ago nicking magnesium ribbon to blow things up.
so i can deff' say it works.

just another option to think of.

RIP


Good option, but it can backfire if you use substances not intended for the purpose (allergies and such): guy I know from watching footy with got done with potassium permanganate on his stag do - they pulled his boxers down and sprinkled it liberally over his arse and took pictures. He nearly couldn't get married cos of the rash and the swelling it caused

Not worried about the thief's state of health, but if it causes a medical issue the police - in this country at least! - are more likely to prosecute the health hazard creator than the thief!

Like someone said above, there are 'invisible' powders/dyes that are made to security mark valuables that don't have any associated risks, they just stain, better to look into those.

EDIT: 15secs on google: http://www.glowtec.co.uk/uv-security-info.htm

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RIP@Youceff
Apr 2006

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quote:
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Good option, but it can backfire if you use substances not intended for the purpose (allergies and such): guy I know from watching footy with got done with potassium permanganate on his stag do - they pulled his boxers down and sprinkled it liberally over his arse and took pictures. He nearly couldn't get married cos of the rash and the swelling it caused

Not worried about the thief's state of health, but if it causes a medical issue the police - in this country at least! - are more likely to prosecute the health hazard creator than the thief!

Like someone said above, there are 'invisible' powders/dyes that are made to security mark valuables that don't have any associated risks, they just stain, better to look into those.

EDIT: 15secs on google: http://www.glowtec.co.uk/uv-security-info.htm


A very valid point mate, I'm talking 25 years ago when they caught me that way.

but hay, thats when they could kick the shit out of you and force a confession off a 14 year old. LOL

and the bastards would not let me anywhere near the new comps in school, thought I might nick one I think

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Apr 2008


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quote:
Originally posted by baha


EDIT: 15secs on google: http://www.glowtec.co.uk/uv-security-info.htm



That's something like the one i was talking about. Mark the cash, dust the cashbox, then when moneys stolen call everyone in and catch the cunt red handed

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RIP@Youceff
Apr 2006

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I agree, far more likely to catch the fucker using UV

I used to run a community centre where the whole main roon was decorated in UV pen, no body had a clue until the UV lights came on when the music nights were on. then the place looked tops. even the kids used to paint themselves with various logo's and comments (thank fuck thair pareents didnt have UV lights, some of the shit they wrote on themselves was well fucked up.

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