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not a bad release. was nuked for very low birate . video is find as well as sound . movie kicked ass

10/10/8

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so is this one better than the Centropy release? or is there any difference at all?

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forgive me if Im wrong doesnt complete mean it has everything that is on original disc? I very much doubt original only had english 5.1 audio which in turn makes this not a complete

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unless they used centropy's copy and just added the extras that were missing......then it would only have english 5.1, as always, I could be wrong

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complete means that it has all extras and subs as far as I know...

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I *believe* by COMPLETE they mean the movie didn't require ripping, all the extras took up the rest of the space.

Therefore, the movie itself on the original DVD9 was less than 4.7 gb... although I'm probably wrong.

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I *believe* by COMPLETE they mean the movie didn't require ripping, all the extras took up the rest of the space.

Therefore, the movie itself on the original DVD9 was less than 4.7 gb... although I'm probably wrong.

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Yes, you are wrong. Infact, you all are wrong. This shouldn't be internal, nor was it stolen from centropy, nor was there only extra audio on this release, and finally it wasn't a dvd5 movie - because Centropy would've ripped the entire thing.

Seeing as i got the Centropy release and it had no extras at all .. that's why a complete came out. Bitrate isn't too bad on this one, 4400k~, all extras are there, works just fine. 10 is a bit high for video, but, ok. Looks good anyways

8/10/7

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hmmmmm

According to the 2 nfos, Centropy's ripped the extras (& other audio) , but the bitrate is over 5K with CCE with Centropy's ; They opted for better picture quality ...

This one has everything, but the bitrate is much lower 4300-4400.

I'll take the BETTER picture any day....

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Yes, you are wrong. Infact, you all are wrong. This shouldn't be internal, nor was it stolen from centropy, nor was there only extra audio on this release, and finally it wasn't a dvd5 movie - because Centropy would've ripped the entire thing.

Seeing as i got the Centropy release and it had no extras at all .. that's why a complete came out. Bitrate isn't too bad on this one, 4400k~, all extras are there, works just fine. 10 is a bit high for video, but, ok. Looks good anyways

8/10/7

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Edumacation time ladies. Complete means NOTHING was ripped at all. If an subtitle is even ripped its incomplete. it has to be an 100% mirror of the retail - Except it can/usually has to be downsampled. this should be nuked for Not.Really.Complete

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The Sound seemed fine on this movie but the video birate was way low. i got an avg of 3mbps , and got as low as 1.2mbps.
Format: CCE 6pass 4.35 MBPS , i highly doubt this was 6pass and its nowhere close to 4.35mbps as it never gets over 3mbps , Super low Video birate leads to motion blurness , blockyness and overall crap.

5/10/8

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From a sample of this it looked OK, but I doubt the bitrate is as high as they state, as it not much lower than the CTP release which had no extras.

Also the full DVD has multiple languages, i could only access one.

Not a bad release, it just doens't look like they're being honest here.

firefighter, i wouldnt judge the bitrate as proof, it depends on the scene, ive dont encodes with a 2500 Avg bitrate and at parts it will be as high as 8-9000, but as low as 500, usually fade to black scenes.

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there can only be two versions of the same exact movie, from the same region, etc. one is a release, another is a proper of that release. includig extras that a group stripped (centropy) is not a reason to proper. therefore this release SHOULD be internal, period.

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[i]also fire_soaker is talking shite aswel, everything is there, its just downsampled, not removing anything so it is complete and u should be nuked for
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What?
I got a sample for this and it only had an English AC3 5.1 soundtrack.
The DVD is supposed to have an English, Spanish and French 5.1 soundtrack as well as an Audio commentary by the Director.

Can anyone confirm if they are on the full release as i cant get to them from the sample, i serioulst doubt they are anyway, as that bitrate is too high to have all this on one DVD5.

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Its not there bud, MSD has publicly confirmed this as well. They claim complete doesnt include audio lofl. is it just me or does complete mean its complete as in its all there! lofl!

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Well i just got around to watching this having on computer for over a week and quality and audio are very good but i must piont one thing out.When this dvd is burned from img file it's wouldn't actually play in dvd player,kept saying wrong region so i applied my dvd hack to turn to multi region and played fine.Aren't all dvd-r releases supposed to be made muli-regional??????
if yes why has this release still have the region 1 stamped on it and not stripped.It's no biggy to me as you can easy make is multi-regional but think it's a big error on this groups part.

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