from the sample
it's good. Not as bright as FRA's reals. It's not in the smale leag as Videocd or CTP but's ok...
8/8/*

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why is this svcd? theres clearly no need for it. i think its because FRA beat them to the vcd.
anyway the colours aint good, its blurry and just not that nice. in the sample it looks ok when they in the car but after that it just looks shit
audio is fine

6.5/8/?

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STOLEN VIDEO & AUDIO SOURCE

They`ve taken VideoCD`s video and FRA`s audio and muxed them together, which can be confirmed by looking at the start of the film where as in the videocd source, the right hand half of the screen is covered by a jacket.

Very sad

stolen/stolen/7

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The source might be stolen but what SG18 seem to be doing well at the moment is fixing other groups fuck ups, Saw for example.
If indeed they have taken VideoCd's video and FRA's audio and come up with a better version than what's out there, then well done as far as I am concerned. Shows good initiative.

Sample looks good to me, but I am slightly concerned about diekund's comments about the full movie quality

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Stolen VideoCD source.. Hmm, I see no VideoCD release of it and as for multiplexing the FRA sound, well I'll have to look, but if thats the case maybe sync issues too. All in all, looks ok for me and the best release so far..

So Ill say, keep up the good work

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IMPORTANT, PLEASE READ

1 NO REQUESTING

2 DO NOT DISCUSS SOURCES FOR MOVIES

3 NO FLAMING

4 NO "SPOILERS"

5 COMMENT ON THIS RELEASE, NOT WHAT OTHER GROUPS MAY OR MAY NOT RELEASE

6 ONLY COMMENT IF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS RELEASE OR A SAMPLE OF IT


*** PEOPLE IGNORING THE ABOVE RULES WILL BE BANNED ***

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You gotta be kidding me, in the corner on the left ya see for 1 second is a jacket or whatever? And it's stolen? I dunno about that, I seen the CAM and the beginning moves all around for several minutes.

Overall not bad... definatly a keeper.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by SeeDee_MKII
[B]STOLEN VIDEO & AUDIO SOURCE

They`ve taken VideoCD`s video and FRA`s audio and muxed them together, which can be confirmed by looking at the start of the film where as in the videocd source, the right hand half of the screen is covered by a jacket.

Get a clue you fucking Moron!, go bitch somewhere else where ppl wanna read your crap that makes no sense whatsoever.

7/9/7

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good quality for a non-videocd/ctp svcd ts. definitely watchable 8/8/x

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i agree with the previous 2 posters....first of all we are not sure if the picture is stolen....in every cam movie at the first seconds the picture is shaky jackets come in the picture etc.....and then where did you see the videocd release??????is it internal or what???

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kinda fuzzy and dark ...


v 6.1
a 8
m ??

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isn't kinda sad, 2 times now, SG18 take another release from another group, reencode it or convert it ntsc then take audio from another group, sync it to it, and release it, get the rewards
wow
SG18 did it for

VideoCD
FRA
Centropy

propered VideoCD & Centropy with their own source ...

where the scene is going ... i guess all the morons that saying SG18 is right only want the group to stop preing.

Scene being too public now, and idiots actualy accessing to it to easyly, one day or another the scene will split up, having a very private site including group like VideoCD and Centropy and others good name, then the other side, where all little fuckers will be.

I hope to see that at any point.

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I can see your point Roger but I just don't agree that's all. Perhaps the fact that sg18 have produced a better version here and also sorted the Saw fiasco before videocd brought out their final 60 secs suggests that they want people to watch the best version possible out there. Nothing to do with getting credit when we already know they have used a mix and match of sources etc. I just want to see the best possible and as quick as possible really, as I would say most people do.

Yeah, I suppose it's sneaky and sly what they do but it could have some good effect eventually in that the groups who are renowned as top quality will have to really check their encodes etc before releasing

Just outta interest, has this been nuked for stolen anywhere yet? Hasn't on my sites. Not sure about nforce as it was down a while ago.

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You know the way things go on here makes you not want to even post or rate the quality of the movies..So Imma say this and if I get banned so be it..If you guys are so fucking smart why are you not doing your own shyt. bunch of you grown azz men crying like the world owes you something..and you got all the answers..Take what is given to you and be thankful..NeverSoft Post the rules of the Forum..if you don't like them then go to another forum..or start your own..

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Point taken Panthro. I did comment on the sample earlier on. I also felt that it was warranted discussing this to some extent though as I feel certain groups come in for unwarranted flak by the so called l33t for fixing stuff and making our lives easier.

As for this based on sample 7/7?

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fixing problem is fine, i agree to that, but saying they use their own source when its false ? you have to admit my point, VideoCD / Centropy have camers wich SG18 don't have, VideoCD / Centropy spend time and money, wich SG18 only spend little time to fix, and who get the rewards at the end ?

If SG18 would say in their nfo,

We toke VideoCD release because it was better video also we toke FRA audio because it was better audio.

First it would be nuked for stolen, but i would at least respect them more ...

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Just to reply to the posts regarding my thread. To the ppl saying "if they fixed something then its fine", is well and good if you are a non scener (which TRV u obviously are), but when a grp takes the risk of going out and camming it and rlsing it (which videocd do), just for another grp to take a different audio source mux it and rls it like its their own work, thats going to cause problems.
But I guess that dont mean anything to the 99% of idiots on here.

Rogers, Panthro`s and garveys points are well put.

wont post anymore on the subject

stolen\stolen\7

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k yeah def stolen dont really give a crap who cares why they like to use other sources if the release is half decent and watchable aint that what ppl want??? someone tell me otherwise anyway this film is crap went to cinema walked out after 35 mins feed of rubbish cudnt be bothered to give it the time either (also woman hated it to and her friends)!!!

stolen/stolen/-1

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Just because it is not on VCDQ does not mean that the release is not real. VideoCD did do a CAM of this a while ago. And after comparing the video of this release with the video of the VideoCD release I would say that they are in fact the same. Because yesterday when the FRA pre'd I was going to rip the DTS audio and sync it to the VideoCD release myself just because I didn't want to wait for a better TS. Anyway

stolen/stolen/8

movie rocked

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COOL
7/8/8

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