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ssk
Jun 2004


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whoa.. sweeeet !! Looks like this Christmas ill be home watching all these movies.. too many rips coming out in short time... my nets and hard drives gonna come apart i think ......

got hold of the movie right now.. amazing quality .. it has the "property of pixar... do not duplicate" logos coming up.. did not come across and b/w scenes while scrolling thru it"

yup it needs to be 2cd coz its more difficult to encode coz its 3d and not 2d which can be compressed.. 3d is more difficult to encode because excessive colours and large textures are used

8/8/8

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sar
Sep 2004


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I think you're supposed to rate the release =)

9.5/9/6

Again a fairly dull pixar movie. But I know I'm a minority..

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FrightfoO
Sep 2003

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I dun wanna sound like a sad guy, but I'm taken aback by how this release has been put out. First it's a cartoon and second it's a DVDSCR.

Cartoon's are a lot easier to encode than real-life stuff, animated movies are just 'encoder friendly'. So this release could've easily been 1CD. I mean to say I've seen non-cartoon movies which deserved 2-3CD/AC3 put out as 1CD. Also considering this is a DVDSCR, it didn't need to be 2CD.

Sorry about that outburst, but I'm really, really surprised this movie's 2CD when it needn't be. With all that said I can't but give the release good marks, as it is.

9/8/7

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tanpax
Jul 2004

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any b/w scenes or 'property of' logos?

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Redemption198
Jul 2004


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This is about 2 hours long, you couldn't have this and 5.1 AC3 onto 1CD, and thats the main reason people get 2CD releases.

Also good CGI is not a cartoon, CGI can have nearly as much detail as live action.

Anyway, I got CD1 of this and it looks and sounds great, wish the messages weren't there, but considering i thought this was months off, im quite happy.

9/10/9

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inipi
Sep 2004

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Cartoon's are a lot easier to encode than real-life stuff, animated movies are just 'encoder friendly'. So this release could've easily been 1CD.


No offense but you're dead wrong. Have you actually tried encoding these pixar movies to mpeg4 ? They aren't like the Simpsons or Futurama. They don't have big blocks of static color. They're just as complex as any live action movie. Worse in many cases. Lots of movement. Lots of colors. Incredible detail (pun not intended!). They're not cartoons in the traditional sense and they shouldn't be judged as such. In fact due to the vibrant colors and sharp detail these movies can really suffer if you try and over compress them.

Having said all that this release looks very watchable indeed. :-)

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Skynet
May 2002

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They're not cartoons in the traditional sense and they shouldn't be judged as such. In fact due to the vibrant colors and sharp detail these movies can really suffer if you try and over compress them.

Having said all that this release looks very watchable indeed. :-)
Exactly. I re-encoded this to DVD using CCE, and it gave better quality using the settings that are normally used for live action than the CGI settings.

Excellent release, nearly perfect! Great sound too.

9/9/8

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maseline_98
Dec 2004

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was wondering if any knows if the sound is DD or DDEX or whatever...thanks...i'm currently "obtaining" it and i was wondering if i should look for another copy that has DD

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dopeuser8
Mar 2002

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9/9/9

Overall really nice quality, looks good on my pc,
but looks terrible on my phillips dvp642, colors are wrong, and
there are trails, 90% of my other divx/xvids work perfectly, so no big deal, just reencode, or better off get the svcd or dvdr if your playing it on standalone dvd/divx player.

and this isnt 3d, its 2d. I checked, I played the movie and looked behind my monitor, and on the sides too, just a plastic casing.

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chessboxer
Jun 2004

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Extremely good rip and great sound. This had to be a 2CD release.The picture quality of this film would definately have suffered otherwise, especially in the actuion scenes.
Did anyone check out the bad quality of the 1CD release of Finding Nemo ages ago? That was horrible to watch. Blotchy and all the colours were messed up.

Scrolled through on PC, colours were fine. Watched it on my DVD player and the quality is amazing.

9/9/9

Another decent film to go under Pixar's belt, and well done DVL for a decent release.

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maseline_98
Dec 2004

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quote:
Originally posted by dopeuser8
9/9/9

Overall really nice quality, looks good on my pc,
but looks terrible on my phillips dvp642, colors are wrong, and
there are trails, 90% of my other divx/xvids work perfectly, so no big deal, just reencode, or better off get the svcd or dvdr if your playing it on standalone dvd/divx player.

and this isnt 3d, its 2d. I checked, I played the movie and looked behind my monitor, and on the sides too, just a plastic casing.



how do i reencode it?...i've tried using xilisoft to create a .vob, but the aspect ration just doesn't look right...anybody know the exact aspect ration i should use?

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FrightfoO
Sep 2003

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quote:
Originally posted by inipi
No offense but you're dead wrong. Have you actually tried encoding these pixar movies to mpeg4 ? They aren't like the Simpsons or Futurama. They don't have big blocks of static color. They're just as complex as any live action movie. Worse in many cases. Lots of movement. Lots of colors. Incredible detail (pun not intended!). They're not cartoons in the traditional sense and they shouldn't be judged as such. In fact due to the vibrant colors and sharp detail these movies can really suffer if you try and over compress them.

Having said all that this release looks very watchable indeed. :-)



Hehe, yes I have encoded cartoons such as this to MPEG4 (XviD). I prefer RV10 over XviD though.. tried that? I wouldn't suggest that it could've been 1CD if I didn't know atleast some background about encoding and the fact cartoons are highly compressable.

I bet you if this had been released as 1CD nobody would've minded, it's a DVDSCR afterall.

1CD XviD + MP3 sound = fine for a DVDSCR of a cartoon. I wouldn't settle for that when the retail comes out though.

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chuchon17
Dec 2004

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quote:
Originally posted by dopeuser8
9/9/9

Overall really nice quality, looks good on my pc,
but looks terrible on my phillips dvp642, colors are wrong, and
there are trails, 90% of my other divx/xvids work perfectly, so no big deal, just reencode, or better off get the svcd or dvdr if your playing it on standalone dvd/divx player.

and this isnt 3d, its 2d. I checked, I played the movie and looked behind my monitor, and on the sides too, just a plastic casing.



Just when the movie starts press "System Menu" twice with the remote control and enjoy the movie, it´ll happend with some movies. Bye

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D34F
Jan 2005

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Hello there,

I'm a total noob with codecs and anything so I guess this is a naab question I have downloaded The.Incredibles.DVDSCR.XviD-DVL and it playes with windows media player and BS-Player, but 1 problem is: I HAVE NO SOUND, also the subtitles wont work that were included, I only wanna play this movie on my pc! So if u can help me with a nice player or a codec PLEASE tell me Thanks in advance!

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dburklen
Jan 2005

Newbie

ya know im sure it has been answered 3000 times and all 3000 must have been deleted because im having the same problem and im not finding a solution so yea someone wanna figure that out that be cool i payed it in media player winamp bs player and great picture good movie if i could lip read

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friedcat
Jan 2005

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The reason why you have problems with this movie on hardware players is that the movie was encoded using a MPEG Custom quantization matrix - not all players support this and it certainly doesn't form part of the "DivX certified for Home Theatre" accreditation requirements. I'm not sure what release scene rules are enforced these days but if its TDX2002, then theres no mention of any such requirement to use default H.263 or MPEG matrices when encoding.

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